cleo22270 | Heat

266 | an hour ago

Tim Duncan has the most All-Defensive team selections in NBA history (15).

DPOYs? 0

cha-cha_dancer | Pelicans

52 | an hour ago

absolute bum

LardHop | Lakers

29 | 34 minutes ago

That just means Rudy Gobert > Tim Duncan

almostansn | Lakers

1 | 22 minutes ago

Just reading this gave me covid

Kizz3r | Raptors

1 | 20 minutes ago

Shut the league down

TheSalmonRoll | Warriors

1 | 10 minutes ago

I know there’s a lot of homer energy in this statement but the fact that Gobert has 4 DPOYs and Draymond only has 1 really grinds my gears

No-Professional-2276

1 | 9 minutes ago

Draymond is a great defender but not all time great

No-Quality-6392

1 | 3 minutes ago

Frigid, bone chattering take

Miscto3 | Nuggets

14 | 35 minutes ago

Nuggets fan through and through but Camby stole it from him in 07

cloudy_ft

1 | 28 minutes ago

Don’t say that, he’s not even here to defend himself.

OozyMac | Trail Blazers

1 | 8 minutes ago

Meh, it’s the Heat…

bmmfg12 | Knicks

87 | an hour ago

I mean he never was going to win it in the Big 3 era. And some of his best coaching was in the playoffs; it’s a regular season award

DraymondBeanKick | Warriors

30 | 34 minutes ago

2022 when the Heat were the 1 seed should have been the year.

cl353 | Heat

1 | 21 minutes ago

Should’ve been the bam dpoy year too. Alas

MalleableCurmudgeon | Thunder

15 | 42 minutes ago

Agreed! The presentation around the decision was we have our Big 3; we need nothing else. He has done a great job, but NBA awards are as much about feelings/reputation as anything else.

metaslaves | Toronto Huskies

56 | an hour ago

Coach of the year award is basically which teams outperforms their expectations in the regular season. Spo’s teams has never been great in the regular season outside of the big 3 era.

YeahWhyNot03

17 | 44 minutes ago

He should have won it the year he took them from last in the league at the All-Star Break to the 8th seed behind Dion Waiters and Goran Dragic.

Steridire | Knicks

3 | 34 minutes ago

It’s similar to MVP but not quite as severe, in that you almost always need to break 50+ wins and be an elite regular season team to get it. What was the 8th in the East that year, 39 wins?

Skipper3210 | NYK

1 | 8 minutes ago

I think you’re misremembering - 2016-17 they were 11-30 and ended the season 41-41, missing the playoffs as the 9 seed. I can’t see COTY going to a team that didn’t make the playoffs, as impressive of a turnaround as that was.

EpicCyclops | Trail Blazers

14 | 39 minutes ago

The other issue is that everyone expects Spoelstra to outperform expectations, so even when he does pull off something miraculous in the regular season, everyone just goes, “yeah, we expect that from him.”

OozyMac | Trail Blazers

1 | 8 minutes ago

Plus, it’s the Heat….

_butt_doctor | Heat

1 | 32 minutes ago

2022 when the Heat were the 1st seed would’ve been the year. But I think Monty Williams won it instead.

porkchop487 | Bulls

1 | 14 minutes ago

He’s made the finals twice and conference finals thrice after the big 3

metaslaves | Toronto Huskies

1 | 13 minutes ago

That’s what makes him one of the GOAT coaches, but COTY is a regular season award.

ositola | Lakers

43 | an hour ago

It’s because he hasn’t won a coach of the year award that’s been around for so long

byteturtle | Suns

24 | an hour ago

~~Brad Stevens, Don Nelson, Spo, Mike D’Antoni and Jerry Sloan won a combined 0 COTY awards.~~

~~Sam Mitchell has one for a 47-35 season with the Raptors, thats tied for the same amount as Phil Jackson, the architect of 3 different 3 peats.~~

~~The awards kinda a joke, or at least disingenuous in its name when its really “Coach that exceeded regular season expectations the most”~~

I’m a stupid moron with an ugly face and a big butt and my butt smells and… I like to kiss my own butt.

dukeg3 | Rockets

6 | 39 minutes ago

D’antoni won it twice though??

With the Suns in 2005 Rockets in 2017

byteturtle | Suns

4 | 38 minutes ago

Oh shit thats on me, scratch him from this list!

Speed-Mockingbird

1 | 28 minutes ago

Don Nelson won 3 COTY awards???

byteturtle | Suns

1 | 26 minutes ago

I quit

FinalFrash

7 | an hour ago

Lol how do you think he became longest tenured? The Coach of the Year Award has a curse on it.

IRanOutOf_Names | Heat

4 | an hour ago

Because the heat are weird. His best seasons for coach of the year were ‘17, ‘20, ‘22, and this year.

‘17 we started 11-30 and despite being the best team in the league statically for the 2nd half the stain never went away.

‘20 was covid year and the heat fell off at the end of the year getting the 5 seed despite being the 2nd best team in the east all year and always hanging around the 2-3 seed.

‘22 we were the 1st seed but that was the year the Suns obliterated the regular season.

This year he had an argument for the first part due to our new siren and outperforming expectations, but we fell off hard.

23 is obviously his magnum opus, but that happened in the playoffs and doesn’t come into consideration.

jacksawyerlost

3 | an hour ago

Spo maybe should’ve gotten one with those stacked LeBron teams… but otherwise, the team has been pretty underwhelming.

Since LeBron left, they’ve finished:

10th, 3rd, 9th, 6th, 10th, 5th, 6th, 1st, 8th, 8th, 8th and 10th in the East. 2 seasons in the top half of the East out of 11.

I like Spo, I think he’s a good coach. But the Heat narrative of them being this outstanding organization and Spo being this otherworldly coach don’t really hold up to any kind of real scrutiny. It’s just a media trope that won’t die.

SpiritualBar2469

8 | an hour ago

uh huh its Erics fault he has been given spare parts to play with.

ffs guy coaches dont build teams. they coach. He took them to the finals with Jimmy fucking Butler as his best player. which is hall of fame worthy in its own.

Turbulent-Ground6739

6 | an hour ago

Jimmy butler was a beast

SpiritualBar2469

-1 | 39 minutes ago

he wasnt a top 15 player. he overachieved for sure. but its insane spo got that team that far.

jacksawyerlost

1 | 32 minutes ago

Yes he was. He was a top 10 defender and a top 20 offensive player when healthy the year the Heat went to the finals. And as was mentioned, he improved in the post-season. It was still a great run and Spo did a great job, but to act like Jimmy Butler wasn’t one of the league’s best players that year is nuts.

Turbulent-Ground6739

1 | 36 minutes ago

Jimmy got that team that far, twice. His game went to another level in the playoffs and he was the best player on either team in the finals vs the lakers

ImpossibleCategory | Raptors

6 | an hour ago

He took them to the finals with Jimmy fucking Butler as his best player

this isnt a good argument lol

jacksawyerlost

2 | 41 minutes ago

Lol I know – Prime Jimmy Butler was a stud. Acting like he was some scrub is hilarious. He was just always hurt in the regular season.

jacksawyerlost

1 | an hour ago

I didn’t blame Spo. But that’s why he hasn’t won a coach of the year. If it was any other team, nobody would be surprised that a coach with his track record has never won a coach of the year.

Muted_Dog7317 | Heat

4 | 37 minutes ago

66 wins and a 27 game win streak 1 year, and a number of 1 seed with Jimmy and Bam both missing 25+ games another year.

I would be surprised if another coach did that and didn’t get an award but coach of the year is about exceeding expectations. No one is surprised if Spo can win games without his best players.

jacksawyerlost

0 | 34 minutes ago

This is just using clever english to try and make your point sound better.

The year they were the #1 seed, they went 53-29. They absolutely overachieved that season, and Spo did a great job. But the Suns were 64-18 a year after winning 45 games. Monty Williams was clearly more deserving.

Muted_Dog7317 | Heat

1 | 22 minutes ago

You’re the one ignoring that the season before the they played less games and the Suns made the finals. Saying they only won 45 games is intentionally omitting key information.

When Spo won 66 games did he deserve over that coach that won less?

Edit: actually the Suns went 51-21 the season before and finished 2nd in the West. Trying to paint them as a mid team is ridiculous

pulpfriction4 | Cavaliers

5 | an hour ago

They’ve been to the Finals twice since Lebron left

itsdrewmiller | Timberwolves

6 | an hour ago

CotY is for regular season performance only - of all the awards though it feels like skipping post season is a huge issue for this one, since that’s when you really see the coaches playing chess against each other.

jacksawyerlost

4 | an hour ago

You don’t win coach of the year for going to the Finals. Why are people always responding by ignoring the OP’s point? Coach of the year is based on the regular season.

This must be your first year as an NBA fan, so welcome to the sub!

pulpfriction4 | Cavaliers

2 | 42 minutes ago

I wasn’t responding to OPS point about COTY. I was responding to you. That’s why I replied to you instead of OP. You said you don’t u destined how Miami and Spo have a reputation for being an outstanding organization.

I am saying since Lebron left, the Heat are only one of four teams (Warriors, Cavs, Celts) that have made repeat appearances in the Finals. Kinda hard to do if you are not a well run and well coached org. Especially if you look at the players on those teams Spo has had to coach since then.

BTW, the condescension at the end, when you are clearly wrong, is a great way to show people you really don’t know what you are talking about.

jacksawyerlost

2 | 39 minutes ago

What is this fascination with going to the Finals? They’ve had two good regular seasons in 11 years. They didn’t win either one of those Finals. The Phoenix Suns went to a Finals as well recently. If you don’t win it, nobody cares.

Acting like they are some fantastic organization because they got through the dog shit east twice in 11 years despite being one of the most highly sought out destinations among players is… a take.

pulpfriction4 | Cavaliers

1 | 32 minutes ago

Suns didn’t go twice is my point. It’s hard to make it to the Finals. Even in the east. It’s harder to go back there twice. If it was so easy. Why haven’t more teams done it? If Miami is a beacon drawing in all the big name players, why is the second best player Norman Powell?

jacksawyerlost

1 | 30 minutes ago

I’d rather have a team be a consistent top 4 team in my conference than make two crazy runs to the finals that result in losses. It’s not like the Heat were running through any really good teams to get there either year.

He has no championships without LeBron. They’ve finished in the top half of the East twice in 11 years. They’ve lost the Finals twice in those same 11 years. I just don’t think that’s all that impressive, no matter how many times you repeat it.

pulpfriction4 | Cavaliers

1 | 20 minutes ago

If they both fail to win the Finals what difference does it make whether they lose in the Finals or earlier in the playoffs. Being a top 4 team holds the same weight end of the season as being somebody barely making the playoffs

Betterjake | Heat

1 | 14 minutes ago

Heat narrative of them being this outstanding organization

Made 7 of the last 20 Finals…

BlitzStriker52 | MIA

0 | an hour ago

Unironically, he should’ve got it in the 2017 season where the team had an 11-30 start but then went on a 30-11 run after adjustments.

But also the fact that the Spo can maximize role-players in a way that barely any other coach can do, is why he’s one of the best in the league.

jacksawyerlost

1 | 43 minutes ago

So he doesn’t get punished for starting 11-30 but he deserves all the credit for going 30-11 the second half? Coach of the year for going 41-41 is such a biased take I can’t believe I even responded.

Muted_Dog7317 | Heat

1 | 29 minutes ago

That team was terrible, I don’t think there is another coach that could go .500 with Dion Waiters as the best player. Regardless of whether he should have won COTY he took a bench of misfit role players that other teams didn’t want and somehow won 41 games on a team that shouldn’t have won 20

BlitzStriker52 | MIA

1 | 34 minutes ago

CoTY is an award about overperforming team expectations not the coach in the best teams. Suddenly losing your two best players (Wade and Bosh) and starting 11-30 but finishing 41-41 is massively overperforming expectations.

candry_shop | Suns

1 | 29 minutes ago

That year D’Antoni turned a dysfunctional imploding Rockets squad into the 3rd seed with Harden playing at the time the best ball of his career, though

Turbulent-Ground6739

-2 | an hour ago

I’m so happy somebody else said this! He’s mid at best

aiden3buckets | Hornets

3 | an hour ago

No the roster has been mid at best

The_MadStork | NYK

-2 | 43 minutes ago

Get rid of the Heat/Riley mystique and suddenly Spoelstra looks an awful lot like Doc Rivers

InfamousCattle3223 | Hawks

1 | 22 minutes ago

This is an insane take. Doc had the big 3 Celtics, Embiid, giannis, kawhi and PG. Spo has more finals appearances and more championships. Nobody in their right mind would rather play a Spo coached team in the playoffs over a Doc coached team. Not a single person on earth. Not one.

pulpfriction4 | Cavaliers

1 | 22 minutes ago

Outside of the Heatles, Spo has never had the rosters Doc has consistently had throughout his coaching career

WoahBenny23 | Kings

3 | an hour ago

spo stevens n kerr are the greatest coaches of the modern era n they have a combined 1 COTY.

SpiritualBar2469

2 | 37 minutes ago

stevens? lol

ThrowRa-zucchinizzc

-1 | 36 minutes ago

Stevens? You mean Ty Lue?

MongooseEfficient206

3 | 44 minutes ago

Anyone in this thread who says Spo isn’t a good coach or should be fired has absolutely zero ball knowledge

LardHop | Lakers

1 | 32 minutes ago

Bro’s fighting invisible enemies. No one in their right mind would say Spo isn’t a good coach.

MYO716 | Knicks

3 | 35 minutes ago

If I had a nickel for every professional sports coach based in Florida that didn’t have a coach of the year despite having a worthy resume I’d have….one nickel because Jon Cooper finally got one yesterday.

Famous-Protection809

2 | an hour ago

Because he’s a puppet.

Tippacanoe | Cavaliers

2 | 39 minutes ago

an Ohio State coach didn’t win Big Ten coach of the year for 40 years despite being the overall best team of that period. It just always goes to the team that does better than expectations.

whenishit-itsbigturd

0 | an hour ago

If I had LeBron Wade Bosh and an elite supporting cast I’d coach them to a championship too. It’s not much of an achievement

choyMj

2 | an hour ago

That’s not how it works. Otherwise the 2010s Thunder would have won at least one ring.

whenishit-itsbigturd

0 | 43 minutes ago

They could have if they kept the team together. The Thunder prior to KD leaving had terrible spacing, KD was right to leave. That team was never winning. They almost got BTA by a team starting 2 6ft guards

I mean that team with the young dumb versions of future MVPs + MVP Durant literally made the finals

diecommajerks

1 | 36 minutes ago

The NHL’s longest tenured coach (Jon Cooper of the Lightning at 13 years) just won their equivalent of the Coach of the Year award this season

background_action92 | Heat

1 | 30 minutes ago

I belive there was a year where they were the 1rst seed where he could have won it in the past 6 years but other than that, its hard to award to him when its a regular season award

Successful-Pair-4850

1 | 29 minutes ago

i thought eric when last time when heat was 66-16 record

InfamousCattle3223 | Hawks

1 | 27 minutes ago

Spo is a victim of his own success a lot of the time and his magic really comes out to shine in the postseason so a regular season coach of the year is gonna be hard to him.

neuroticsmurf | Celtics

1 | 7 minutes ago

Weird to think that Doc Rivers has more COTY awards than Spo.

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Either_Imagination_9 | Knicks

4 | an hour ago

He made the finals twice in the past 6 years

pulpfriction4 | Cavaliers

2 | an hour ago

Why

The longest tenured active head coach, Eric Spoelstra (18 years), has not won the Coach of the Year Award