[ESPN] Donovan Mitchell: “We may win a ring here. We may never win a ring here… but I’ve won in life.” Donovan Mitchell will become eligible for a 5-year $350 million extension with Cleveland next Summer.
Valid, don’t think you should say that out loud tho lol
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“Y’all got work tomorrow I got CoCo & 350M waiting on me yall lost i won”
He ain’t wrong. Those NBA mofos won big.
What u say everyone stop watching NBA and make them poor again lol.
Yooooo I fucking hollered😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Finally tore up that ten for a hour or so, belly full of Brazilian steakhouse, catch yall in ten hours
“Still beat tho”
Quite frankly he played like it during the entire playoffs.
LMFAOOO
lmao well played
Once they say something like this you can almost guarantee you’re not winning shit lol
Yeah I am not a fan of this at all…getting your ass beat in the ECF and then saying this is wack
He’s y’all problem now once he signs that fat extension $70M per year gonna hit like crack
Idk what crack you got, but yeah that contract is gonna cook us. I like Donovan as a human and he is a great player, but he just isn’t a #1 guy. Still, it is nice to have a guy want to be in Cleveland. He is easy to root for, just wish he’d show up in the fourth more than 20% of the time…
I agree with you on the #1 thing. Giving him $70m/year is going to be brutal if he continues shrinking/deferring in the postseason
Teams need to start walking away from obvious bad contracts just to not lose a player
If he leaves you aint winning a title
But if he stays at 70m youre also not winning a title
At least the former lets you rebuild while the later puts you in the 2nd round purgatory
A lot of those decisions come with money in mind though. Mitchell puts a lot of buts in seats. Sure teams want to win a championship but they want to make money too.
There’s like 2 players MAX worth 70M per year that’s Victor and Wemby
While im flattered of your victor glazing, i think there is at least 3-4 players that you can pay 70m and still win a title.
Vic sga joker and maybe luka are all i can come up with lol
Owners don’t care and NBA don’t care as long as butts are in the seats. Cavs have a solid team with him on it and are winning games and playing postseason games. That is usually a recipe for financial success. Most fans, players, and owners are fine with that.
Rebuild in the Victor/OKC era? You’re damned if you do, damned if you don’t, there’s really no good choice if you’re Cleveland might as well hold on to him
“Damn we got our asses swept, but I won in life, catch y’all in 19 weeks.”
If this is my team’s leadership on the court I want out the fuckin team.
Weak ass shit.
Jaylen Brown also said something similar about it being his best season and they had an early playoff exit, something in the Eastern Conference waters..
Well at least he’s won before
Put Tatum next to Mitchell and I bet he’d win too. Fills our most glaring hole with a 25⁄10 guy who plays good D? Would be easy money. Cavs roster construction does Donovan no favors.
25 is putting it mildly, outside of his return from injury JT hasn’t averaged <26 ppg in a season for 7 years. DMitch has done so thrice in the same timespan.
Not even just Tatum too, that 24 Celtics team was pretty much better at every position in comparison to what Mitchell has.
This is like when Russ said, win lose just have fun 😂😂. Fucking hell, you are getting paid to try your best to win a ring
tbf i could’ve told you donovan mitchell was never winning shit like 3 years ago
interesting flair
yea punch us while we’re down. jsut wait til 2031 when we get our picks back then you’ll regret making fun of the suns
I want to laugh be we’re in the same boat lmao
Its a valid crashout, Suns fans always have to hear D Mitch is better than Book conversations when I think the two are more comparable than thought.
He realized he isnt good enough to win a title as a 1 so might as well just cash in the most he can
More power to him, bad news for the cavs and its fans
Undersized (thus likely to get injured and/or worn down quikcly) shooting guard that shoots 3s at mid-30s percentage (thus has nothing to fall back on once injured and/or loing athleticism) and has no history of winning signs a 5-year max contract when is he is 29, a contract that will be guaranteed until he is 34-35.
Where have we seen that and how has it worked out previously?
What other choice does Cleveland have? Their draft cabinet is one of the worst in the league. It is a small town in the rust belt thats not highly desirable among free agents. What else can they do besides sign said undersized star player, just let him leave and become a perennial mediocre team like the Bulls or Pelicans?
These comments ain’t got a damn thing to do with them not winning. No one thought they were winning before these comments.
NBA fans hate when players have perspective.
He knows he will never win a ring so he brings up money
Why not? Kenny says analytically they’ve won two games and Harden believes they are the better team. Might as well make the bad PR a team effort.
Yep that’s an inside your head conversation.
Isn’t every nba player winning at life kind of a weird flex to bring it up
He’s just consoling himself at this point
Donovan “Lauren Sanchez” Mitchell
Why not? God forbid a person be happy.
This type of talk is indicative of a player that isnt hungry. Players that are okay after losing generally aren’t going to be able to dig deep when it counts
To be absolutely fair, Lebron have said a version of when he lost the 2011 finals. A bit classier though
How was LeBron classier? He called his haters losers and will wake up being losers while he’s Bron. It was the least classy thing ever lol
There had to be a better way to say this that didn’t sound this corny
Have you listened to Donovan before
Yeah hurdy gurdy man is probably one of my favorite songs
I’m more of a ‘Wear Your Love Like Heaven’ man, myself.
I’ll condone slandering ‘Atlantis’, but I won’t tolerate any ‘Sunshine Superman’ disrespect here.
James Harden is the roly poly man
Props for this. Looool
Yes, I think it’s just his body language in this clip lol
Lebron pretty much had the same thought response just worded much better.
“At the end of the day, all the people that was rooting on me to fail – at the end of the day they have to wake up tomorrow and have the same life that they had before they woke up today. They have the same personal problems they had today… I’m gonna continue to live the way I wanna live.”
This is after losing the 2011 finals
LeBron was such a good villain dude
I really loved hating him. I’m about to shed a tear of nostalgia, for real
The duality of a terminally online Nba fan.
That’s a different statement. Kinda?
Yeah that’s a totally different statement Lebron directed at his haters. This is more Mitchell being grateful about his situation
Legendary quote from Lebron though
I’m sure he’d be bummed to hear he’s corny
Then he’d go and make $70 million for that year
I’d have no filter and be an absolute fucking menace with even a fraction of that
I’m a Cavs fan lol I don’t think he’s corny I just think what he said here came across that way, what he said isn’t even corny either in a vacuum it was just awkward
It’s like Jordan said players today just care about the money winning or getting a ring is secondary to them
You do make a fraction of that so get to it
This reminds me of Richard Sherman telling Skip Bayless “I’m better at life than you”
Skip tried so hard to talk about other shit and Sherm was like nah we gon keep this right here between me and you lmao
It was an all-time interview. The kids will find it hard to believe, but Skip was even more of a d-bag back then
prime Skip Bayless was putting up 36 bad takes/ show. that hadn’t been done since the 50’s
It’s been so long but did people hate Skip as much as they hate Stephen A now? Or was it even worse for Skip?
Stephen A probably he’s a symbol of everything wrong with ESPN and he helped make it that way. Hate him or not, Skip would also invite people on to get absolutely eviscerated on his own show multiple times, Stephen’s A. soft ego needs a bunch of punching bags to make him look better, he’s so insecure he basically got Kellerman canned for even debating him. Dude is pathetic
Skip was way worse.
Stephen A is more of just a guy you roll your eyes at. He has bad takes and he gets all animated to get people riled up, but Skip was just a grade-A asshole. He loved to get under people’s skin.
This is a great watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgSGtqvUgfY
Okay so I’m only a few seconds in, but a direct quote from Skip about his abusive childhood:
“When my father got mad, which was often, he hit me in the face with his open right hand, always making sure he caught me in the cheek or lip or eye with his wedding ring, which would leave a bruise or welt, or a little taste of blood.”
I’m not saying I don’t believe him, but explicitly specifying that his dad would hit him with his open right hand in order to strike him harder with his wedding ring is suspicious
He’s made a career on being a pathological liar, so you gotta take everything he says with a grain of salt
What’s corny? He stated it pretty matter of fact.
I know it’s partially cause I’m biased after seeing Tatum catch a lot of flack, but I swear NBA players could say anything and there will always be some people calling it corny.
It reminds me of when reporters ask a player if it’s important for them to win MVP and then the player gets flamed regardless of how they answer
I mean a lot of them are wildly corny.
it’s all subjective to some degree, and hard to pin down why, but Tatum is pretty objectively corny. Mitchell on the other hand is sincere and down to earth here, which maybe seems corny to people who are uncomfortable with sincerity? I really have no idea what else could be construed as out of touch/ corny about this
Yeah that’s kinda what I was trying to get at, sincerity will get you called corny, but then also if you’re not sincere then people on here will say that it’s too rehearsed and call it corny regardless
I think it’s just how casual he was about it; I don’t have a problem with him being happy by any means, I’m thrilled that he loves being in Cleveland. I just wish he wasn’t so nonchalant about “we might never win a ring here” as the superstar of the team
He was just as nonchalant about possibly winning a ring and just as nonchalant about proclaiming he’s winning at life.
Does he usually present himself any differently in other media?
Y’all could say whatever. that’s still 350 million corn on the cobs
It didn’t sound corny to me, it sounded like someone mentally defeated.
Bro is about to get 300 plus million and about to marry coco jones your damn right he won in life 😭
Dudes life is genuinely all sunshine and rainbows. He’s getting paid a BAG, marrying the love of his life. Doesn’t even get blame if he plays bad in the playoffs. All nba player and perennial all star.
Genuinely can’t lose right now. Bro got swept and watched his team blow a 22 point lead but all the attention was on James harden’s defense and not Donovan deferring and disappearing down the stretch😭
Facts lol. Dude has the ultimate human shield on his squad to deflect any criticism
First they came for Gobert, then Mobley and Allen, now Harden.
Whatever mitchell pays his PR team is worth it.
He’s likeable, uncontroversial, and scores well. He’s hard to attack other than when he underperorms. Meanwhile, he has always been surrounded by more dunkable players.
Gobert is generally unlikable and people think he’s overrated. Mobley had a down season fresh off winning a DPOY. Jarret Allen gave us a generational reaction image and quote. People hate Harden because he pioneered foul baiting. The other guys sort of take the spotlight away
Mitchell is also a tier below the mvp-level superstars, which also keeps him away from the slander. People just aren’t watching him like that, so they’ll remember the nights when he goes off but forget the times when he disappears
Good enough to make all nba and supermax money. Not good enough to be expected to carry teams farther than they should go or win a championship. The perfect sweet spot for an NBA player.
All NBA but its the fault of the 36 year old who is supposed to be the second fiddle.
3rd fiddle*
Evan “all timer potential” Mobley is supposed to be their 2
Harden was brought in to be the number one on ball guy because the Cavs didn’t think Mitchell was good enough for that. He’s their lead ball handler and rightfully so. Watching how they play completely dismisses this Harden 3rd fiddle stuff.
I also don’t know why we never break this down into offense/defense. You may consider Mobley better, but he’s not better offensively right now, he’s making up that difference mostly on the defensive end. On offense, it’s Harden’s show.
I agree with the Cavs assessment, too, Mitchell needs a guy like Harden next to him. Mitchell deserves criticism from this series and as someone who is on this sub too often, he’s certainly gotten it.
Harden can’t be the #1 “on-ball guy” and be expected to be the scorer when Mitchell is also standing right there.
At some point, Mitchell has to take accountability for 1 of 2 things - standing around on offense and waiting for his turn…and being a fucking traffic cone on defense.
At least that’s one good thing about having Harden as a teammate lol
Being Harden’s teammate is such a good job. He absorbs all the hate which is wild for a guy who’s done nothing off the court that would deserve it.
That should tell you how much people hate foul baiting lol
Beat Shai in the meat off
Most important part
The Coco Jones part of this is very understated, can’t blame him for putting it exactly like this 😄
Seems like she’s the one that won in life $$$$$
im sure she isn’t exactly poor herself tho 😂😂
Just checked her net worth which says 2-7 mill. So ya, definitely not hurting for money.
But Donovan has Jet setting and Yacht level money, so I’d say she had the real come up.
NBA money is crazy. Only the absolute top of all time actors and musicians have even Max level money. Donovan has signed two max level deals, he got 160 Million from the Jazz and signed an extension worth 150 Millon with the Cavs. And now hes eligible for the supermax. Dude is gonna have half a billion dollars when its all said and done.
true. a few extra bags of cash never hurt anyone
He beat Shai in the meat off as well
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When people put a random woman on a pedestal and I look her up and she’s just mid says a lot about how thirsty most of you are
They said the Cavs played like they had a 10:30 flight to Cancun waiting, and they were right.
what does him winning in life do for cavs fans lol
“I wake up and get to be Donovan Mitchell again tomorrow and you all gotta wake up to being bums again tomorrow”
LeBron rhetoric that he pushes has made the collective basketball IQ of the average fan so much lower
I was thinking Kobe here. For a lot of us I think he’s the one who embodied this exaggerated despair following a loss. I kind of thought we were over that, but apparently not.
Get us to our 3rd no-Lebron ECF in franchise history.
I’d be so stoked for a conference finals appearance
Never heard of such a thing
Yeah ring culture is embarrassing and toxic honestly. Cavs have been winning in the regular season, going deep in the postseason, have been super fun to watch overall, and have a strong young core. They’re in a better spot than 80% of the league.
Sure but Mitchell had an awful playoffs for a top10 player caliber in NBA. He is kinda lucky that Knicks just destroyed them so people dont care that much but first two series he played so bad (other than few games) Dude just dont take a lead on the court at all. Doesnt dictate the game. Not saying they should blow it or trade him but Cavs really need to think every option imo.
I think everybody on this sub jumps to blowing up teams when they don’t have the greatest performances.
Looked at another way, we made it to the top 4 teams in the NBA when we got to the ECF out of 30 teams. Doesn’t sound so bad that way, right?
Also, we just got Harden a few months ago. It will take some time for him to get into our system and for us to figure out what works best. Just gotta give it time imho.
Yeah ring culture is embarrassing and toxic honestly.
What in the bitch ass is this line of thinking lmao
Literally pro sports are played to win. Thats like the only goal of a pro team lol.
No one is saying you shouldn’t try to win titles, lmao. But you don’t need to devalue everything that isn’t a title. That’s the idea since you asked.
It’s not wanting to win, it’s the overreactive outrage and humiliation culture that is embarrassing
The last time Cavs won a championship one of them ate literal horseshit.
I’m not sure any more winning is safe for Cavs fans.
Me in 2015 watching Lance Thomas lead us to 17 wins but also finding $20 in my jacket pocket:
Ayyyy
Can I borrow $2?
This would be me if I was in his position I can’t even lie
Yup buddy barely gets any hate and is labeled as playoff riser cause he has good games here and there but never shows up when it’s important
He has been a playoff riser in the past. This year he had a few good moments but he was largely ass. He looked injured the whole playoffs
I wouldn’t say that he had a “few” good moments. He had some heroic games and always performed in the Game 7s where it truly mattered. He also always locked in towards the end of the games where it felt he was a little too passive.
I think it’s the nature of the NBA and how many gamed the players are in for them to kinda be wishy washy towards the end. We just got too tired by the ecfs.
The Mets cap really brings this home in so many ways
The jets and Mets show how its possible to light 650m a year on fire for no results.
Donnie Bonilla
Look, I respect what he’s saying and he’s absolutely right but I hate this mentality. I want star players to be hungry to win, but that seems less and less common in the NBA.
What’s kinda funny is that I do think this kinda mindset is genuinely healthier. Like you kinda need to be psycho to be THAT hungry and it’s probably not conducive to long term happiness imo.
I just find it kinda weird since he’s still very much in his prime and it sounds like he’s already throwing in the towel and settling to never win.
yea it’s horrible optics he’s at his peak on a team that was the favorites to win the East coming into the year like if he was Harden age cool but you can’t say this even if it’s true
Imagine what Kobe would do if he heard Pau say some shit like that back in 2008 lol
We don’t know if dude is hungry or not based on these comments. If the dude isn’t working hard on his game, fine, but these comments are not at all the issue.
Players know if their roster is not good enough.
Do players know if they are not good enough?
It’s always interesting when a superstar indirectly points to their money and status after a playoff series loss. Like, yes, we know y’all are ridiculously wealthy and we’d all give a left nut, or both, to be in your position.
But basketball is a metaphor, and is meaningless unless there is a winner and a loser. You’re paid the big bucks because you are paid to compete.
Conveniently saying that all doesn’t really matter that much after a loss isn’t doing you any favors. I’m a HUGE LeBron fan but once upon a time he made the same mistake saying “…at the end of the day, all the people that was rooting on me to fail… they got to wake up tomorrow and have the same life that they had before they woke up today.”
Lebron cooked with that ngl. I agree that basketball is a metaphor but the things some fans lionize really make me feel for the state of society
its just a cop out from the player end of the day
nah i don’t think lebron was deflecting here like donovan, he was speaking on the haters enjoying his failure. he said he and the maimi heat organisation would come back harder the next year in pursuit for a ring and haters can get a few weeks or a few months of enjoyment). while he’d continue living his life how he wants with family and friends.
he was saying haters can have their day but will need to face reality and he’ll have an opportunity to bounce back because he’s the one with actual ability to affect anything on the court. sure it wasn’t a PR answer but he didn’t walk back winning a ring in miami or say he’s already won. the next year he went all our to disprove the haters so def different mentality.
Exactly it just shows that they truly are insecure that they lost the game or championship etc like by no metric on planet earth can someone like Mitchell be considered a loser I mean he’s literally getting filmed by a giant camera crew with music in the background and while being a multi millionaire celebrity saying I’m not a loser like we all intuitively know when you call someone like him a loser it’s in the metaphorical concept of the nba so what other reason besides insecurity could he be saying this
I think it’s just a reaction to the criticism/hate that they get tbh. Losing sucks but at the end of the day I’m going back to my nice house and nice car while you have to go to your shitty house and shitty car
It’s always interesting seeing people hate how KD interacts with people on Twitter saying if they were an NBA player they’d actually be enjoying life, but then get upset when a player says they’re gonna enjoy life lol
To me,in context, lebron’s comment was more towards the criticism (fair or unfair) that originated from the high expectations we (including himself) placed on him to win with the Heat big 3. Also because we can look back and see that luckily he didn’t stop trying there, to get to that highest stage, even 15 years later to this day. Luckily he managed to win in 2012 against OKC and then can shake mental championship or bust pressure to actually perform to his abilities in the highest stages.
Where as Donavon’s comment here is saying he’s ok with the loss, because he’s already a winner in the biggest stage of life. And since we don’t have the benefit of hindsight looking back from the future, it sure sounds like he’s ok just to play a couple rounds of playoffs a year and coast and enjoy his personal life. But there may still be room for personal growth as Lebron did as well since 2012.
The best thing to happen to his career was Harden being traded to his team.
He’s got a meat shield taking criticism for the rest of his life.
I don’t really get this sentiment though.
Every player in the NBA won in life already, basically from top to bottom.
The fact that you come out publicly saying you don’t care after getting swept would be enough for me to not want any part of being in the same locker room as this dude.
It’s a weak ass mentality. Everyone on the court is a winner in life, but you’re still a loser among those guys. Not because you can’t play ball, but because you can’t play ball in big moments with any heart.
This is the first time, publicly, that he’s saying he doesn’t give a fuck.
Which we already knew if you saw how he’s acted when the “chips are down”. This shit goes back to when he and Rudy couldn’t get over the hump in Utah.
He didn’t blame Rudy. He didn’t blame himself or his teammates. He didn’t blame the Jazz GM or ownership.
He just didn’t care. He just wanted his next contract. Most people still give him the benefit of the doubt because if he’s an elite player, he must care about winning.
You can still be a rich loser
Everyone in the nba who cant play defense
This is why no one likes NBA anymore.
Nobody cares
People on this sub keep saying this shit but the league constantly makes more money year on year. So there’s a few out there who like it.
while wearing a mets hat. that tracks.
Getting paid a half a billion dollars to throw a ball in a hoop real good for a living. God damn right he is winning at life
Every profession can be simplified down to sound meaningless if you try…
Combine fart gas with plant gas in a metal tube and they call you a rocket scientist.
I like my superstars not being okay with losing. Ugh
If your star player says this you’re most likely never winning a ring with them.
Not really the mentality I want from my Supermax player
the jazz dumped him cause they knew
They knew he’d win at life if he didn’t have to play in Utah anymore
I’m trading him. We either winning or I’m rebuilding. I’m not giving 300 million to this guy 🤦♂️
Hard pa$$.
Can you imagine Jordan, Kobe, Magic, Bird, etc saying something like this? There is a reason the older generations were better. They played with that extra something these coddled babies don’t have.
Why is Donavan Mitchell being compared to Jordan, Magic etc anyways. There were plenty of players back in the day who were doing coke before the games
Doesnt sound like they cared a whole lot either
Nowadays it’s a specific pathway and lifestyle that people go after. Less players in it truly for the game and their talent.
Damn. What’s the spin on this statement
What spin? This is how 99% of nba players feel
Far less. More players than that have a very strong competitive drive.
Also quite a number have internal demons of some sort or royally manage to fuck up their finances. Especially financials for guys who might have 5-50m in career earnings.
Everyone loves to win, that’s true. Winning feels good and more importantly it gets you paid. But guys aren’t moping in Cancun over the summer if they lose.
I think many players have a really strong individual competitive drive. They want to put up numbers, do the best they can in their situation, win as much as possible. All that. But I don’t think more players than not are obsessing over getting a ring. If youre in that top tier of guys who knows they have lifetime max contracts and you can worry about the narrative of your career I’m sure its way more common. But most of these dudes are just trying to stay employed by any means necessary. If that means taking a boatload of money to go put up empty stats for the pelicans or something theyre gonna do it and I bet they never think about winning a ring or not.
We can tell that’s how you feel Donovan its been pretty clear your whole career
I mean he’s right but they are not winning a ring in Cleveland without a big roster change. Good for him to just accept that
It is really great to be super wealthy though there’s no question, he’s worked hard for it
This may be a mentally healthy way for him to look at his situation, but we tend to like star athletes to be obsessively competitive maniacs.
Reminds me of the classic LeBron quote where he reminded us we still have to go to work tomorrow.
paying 70 m’s to Donovan Mitchell would be a horrible idea.
That’s that James Harden influence
“We might be mid the rest of my time here but I got mines so fuck it”
This is Mitchell saying, “I know I ain’t winning shit but at least I got a bag.”..
You gotta be high on your own farts as a team leader to say this anywhere except your mansion in private.
I imagine Cavs fans love to hear this!
This is some Paul George type of excuse.
Ya this is why you have levels to this shit
Some dudes just want the money. then whatever happens happens.
Explains a lot on why he’s the same player for last like 6+ years.
This nonchalant gimmick is so lame to me. Just retire then bro Cavs fans deserve better
Nothing wrong with having this mindset but he needs to be serious. You’re doing an ESPN interview about the team’s season, fans don’t need/want to hear that shit lol. Making it to the NBA and signing even one guaranteed contract is winning at life. It’s already a given.
Bradley Beal sends his regards, motha fuckas!
Analytically I’m a champion
Ohhh yeahhh that’s what the fans wanna hear… maybe maybe not but all that matters is their superstar getting paid 300 milly!
NBA probally One if not the biggest sports league where the Players should shut the fuck up. Your biggest Talent is Ur <1% genetics. Like they just have generational luck with their genetics and then put the work in. Mitchell just Lucky he is 10+ cm taller then the Average american male. Obviously he is living the life but atleast he should be realistic and Realise why he has it
Welcome to the real thoughts of 95% of the players in the league
Idk if anyone’s going to agree with me, but this is an under-discussed factor of why there’s actual parity in the Parity Era. Players aren’t hungry anymore; you’d only need to prove yourself in the first 4-7 years then you and your family are all set. A ring doesn’t hold as much weight as it did when it comes to their contract negotiations. Sure, there are outliers out there who are ultra competitive but the NBA for the most part is no longer as willing to sacrifice anymore because the ‘hunger’ is gone
As usual people are going to take one line out of context, leave the full quote out, and use it to dunk on a guy.
He said in that exact same interview, “it was a very painful ending. To go out like that, you try to put on a smile and move past it.” The full actual quote from the headline: “We may win a ring here. We may never win a ring here. But I’ve won in life, and I’m really happy about that. It doesn’t change my desire, or my hunger.
Then a bit farther on: “I’m not going to stop chasing a ring, and I’m going to die trying to be honest”
I get it, no one wants to hear a player say they’re happy in life, but his point is that he’s happy in Cleveland, feels like he can win here, and doesn’t need to go somewhere else to ring chase.
Anyone taking this to mean he doesn’t care about winning doesn’t know what he’s like at all. He was the one dude who looked like he actually gave a damn in that game 4.
Cavs will build around Spida and Mobley and they’ll be a 50 win team for the next half decade and top four in the east every season but they won’t win a title in that span. And that’s OK.
Fair. Especially if he has to rely on people like James Harden to get his ring.
Washed Harden helped him get further than he ever got before