Half the reason I want the Spurs to win is so the finals aren’t tainted by foul/ref discourse
Like at this point I just want to see some fucking basketball discussion without constant complaints about refs, foul baiting, etc.
I just don’t want two orange and blue teams cuz I don’t like that. That’s not ballin to me.
At least the Knicks’ orange and blue combo is original (tribute to former nyc teams the giants and the dodgers, and the nyc flag)
Edit: forgot to mention that the Mets and the Islanders are also orange and blue
The orange and blue of the Dutch innit
Well, old New York was once New Amsterdam
Why’d they change it? I can’t say.
Why they changed it I can’t say People just liked it better that way So, take me back to Constantinople….
blue represents the hudson river, the orange represents the dutch settlers/orange men
Hmmmmm…what about two blue and orange teams?
Let’s compromise: one orange and blue team and one blue and orange team
I respect this take
Spurs vs Knicks Finals will start convo about Emirates Cup as a possible season barometer.
Emirates Cup 🤣🤣
So crazy a country that literally uses slaves gets to slap their logos on US products because money.
do you not know americas history?
I know we had a literal war to end slavery, so it’s a little wild that we’ve normalized relations with active slavers.
Unfortunately half the country wanted slavery to continue and still feels they are right.
Half is crazy, idk about that
I’m obviously estimating but the confederacy was a significant portion of the country and those same areas have repeatedly voted against equal rights for people 🤷🏻♂️. They are also taught that it wasn’t “about slavery” rather it was “the war of northern aggression” and about “states rights”.
You’re overestimating. The confederacy was about 9 million vs 22 million in the union. That’s closer to a third and not half, etc.
Fair enough.
how is that crazy
Lmao a country run by palantir, amazon and meta, emirates is where you draw the line. Americans 😂😂
Equating tech bros to theocratic slave traders is certainly a choice.
So interesting how many people think that if lines are difficult to draw, we shouldn’t bother drawing any.
people will just go back to bitching about brunson if the spurs make the finals lol
ehh i think it will be the opposite tbh
if carter bryant trucks brunson like he did to shai multiple times
the outrage will spread quickly, people just don’t care because it’s okc, but when it’s the knicks it will circulate opinions more quickly
You are all over these threads defending OKC.
Who knew the same people defended Harden is the same people who are defending SGA
What does your comment have to do with the post or his comment?
Using his flair to conclude that he defended Harden is kinda ironic, considering 1 of your franchise GOAT’s is Manu Ginobili, known flopper
Wear your OKC flair and be proud you support “that”
Nice projection. If I actually liked or supported OKC, I would easily have put in the flair. I don’t.
I’m just tired of you losers whining everytime. And coming from a franchise that built their dynasty basically being the prototype of OKC rn, I hate the hypocrisy.
Your last 100 comments is literally defending OKC and sucking SGA’s.
But yeah, you decided to “I’m going to lie and pretend to be neutral by not putting a flair”
It’s too early to be this tense. Your team won last night so cheer up brother.
Nah, I’m chill. These flairless OKC fans deserved to be called up tho. Straight up scared wearing the flairs
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I don’t get it, when the Knicks were facing the Pacers last year, all of you guys were saying that Brunson was a damn dirty flopper.
Now we’re playing the “right” way? Fuck that shit. This sub will always find someone to hate whenever someone goes against their golden boys
People shitting on Brunson is nowhere near the volume vs SGA and now, the entire OKC team. It’s not just being front runners. That’s a bit too simplistic to claim even though, sure, it’s part of the narrative here but hardly the only explanation.
SGA, the Thunder, the fans, the state, academic achievement, the list goes on. It is very strange how much vitriol is being generated over a children’s game played by multimillionaires.
How disingenuous, jalen had some hate but no where near the hate okc is getting, okc is getting almost the same hate as 2017 warriors rn
okc is getting almost the same hate as 2017 warriors rn
There’s definitely more people doing it on /r/nba anyway, sub didn’t even have 1 million subscribers in 2017 now it has 18 million.
No idea why we were hated in 2017 that was some beautful all time basketball being played.
People don’t want the same team winning all the time unless it’s their team. FWIW, I fucking loved watching those dubs teams play.
Yup, the discourse has always been to hate the frontrunner. It’s just getting more loud cause these people are getting more and more comfortable being obnoxious on social media, and gambling has made more people that don’t know what they’re talking about get invested in it. But there’s always been a bunch of dudes complaining that the winning team is only winning because the way they’re reffed.
Even before social media, Jordan got this treatment, 00’s Spurs did too, I mean, imagine this sub Reddit during the 06 finals if it had the users it has now.
Jordan wasn’t falling to the floor every possession sooking for fouls lol. That excuse sucks
I don’t feel like SGA and the Thunder win because of the refs. At least not any more or less than the other teams. I just HATE watching him fall down all game. Like one of the best athletes in the world and his ass can’t stay on his feet? I would rather see the Spurs but I’ll still root for the Thunder if they make the finals cuz guck NY.
Game 4 of the finals was Scott Foster and crew calling phantom calls every time the pacers started to pull away. It was shambolic
Thank you for calling it out. It’s getting really tiring watching this sub hold these obvious double standards.
I you lose, you’re a flopper. If you win, you’re just playing smart.
Nah, he still is and y’all still don’t play the “right” way. I’m nothing if not consistent with my hate.
Appreciate this, at least you’re honest
Everyone besides my team are floppers, and only my team plays ethical basketball.
And the Spurs play ethically
its impossible for a game to end without someone bitching about calls
Welcome to sport
I’m just looking forward to this time next season if the spurs go all the way this year. Complaints of Wemby would be nothing without his height, he’s overrated got a great team carrying him. He’s only the subs favourite until he gets a ring
We’re already seeing some shots thrown at Wemby already so imagine if he wins it all.
Discourse next year will be how you aren’t even allowed to breathe on wemby
The spurs have shot more free throws in this series
And Shaq is the OG flopper based on that logic.
Shaq is known to have hated shooting ft’s during that era though lol, not to mention he was bad at them.
Last I remember, Wemby is not in any of those boats.
Also, Wemby has a couple of flops this series so far. On IHart, against Jared McCain, and some others.
Couple of flops
Wemby is in the same boat as shaq tho, he gets hack a wemby pretty frequently
He’s just good at shooting free throws, so I doubt he hates it as much lol
Nah, his point is so the discussion stops being about free throws. Whether you think Spurs do or don’t, the point is that people will be talking about it if OKC wins, regardless if it’s true.
Who cares about FTA? OKC’s play style shouldn’t be rewarded.
But at the same time we not gonna sit here and act like Spurs aren’t Physical as hell
It’s ethical defense. You don’t get it bro
/s
The Spurs don’t usually play this physical though, they’ve had to counter OKC who always play this way. They’re just fighting fire with fire. I don’t particularly like it but what else can/should they do?
Yes they do, them and T wolves been physical all season. The only difference its the playoffs and they can ramp it up since they will get away with more
There is literally nothing wrong with the physicality. Stop acting like its one way traffic
I’m not saying it’s one way traffic, or that other teams aren’t physical. Timberwolves are definitely a physical team. Pistons obviously as well.
I guess with OKC they’re usually the most physically aggressive team on the court, but because of the whistle they’ve typically gotten, other teams have typically had issues being as physical back. That’s my observation anyway. This series has been more balanced for sure.
Other teams have no issues being physical back. That is a narrative and thats what I cant stand. What are we talking about, the main difference between OKCs defence and other teams isn’t their physicality, its how damn good it is, elite defenders everywhere, fantastic rotations 2nd best defensive anchor in the league, huge rebounder in IHart. But this just crap narrative thats it only better because they somehow get away with more which they dont is frustrating
Traditionally, they have gotten away with more - that’s not a narrative that I’m repeating because I’ve heard people say it, that’s my observation from watching them play over the past couple of years - you are welcome to draw a different conclusion.
That doesn’t mean they’re not a great, talented team. The two things are not mutually exclusive. I think they’re the most dangerous team in the league - crazy deep, level-headed, skilled, consistent, slick af. They’re an insane team.
I personally don’t like them because of their fouling combined with their flopping, which appears to me to be a team strategy.
Some incredible basketball from both sides this series, but I’m hoping the Spurs win.
Okc is def more physical, lu dort , chet, and hartenstein get away with some crazy illegal d. Castle is in that tier too though
They genuinely don’t. All that complaining people were doing about the hart holding wemby down. Wemby did that to chet all game 1 and no one said nothing
Typical r/nba sheep lmao
“Who cares about free throws” what in the actual fuck is the point of this discourse if ITS NOT WINNING THEM GAMES.
Shh, agendas do not care about things like facts
Wonder after fall% and such, what else can the comical hatedom come up with
Jfc after fishing for FTs, they are now fishing for victim cards
They still would be but wait yall aren’t ready for that yet I hope Knicks in at least 6
It 100% will be no matter what. It’s worth with OKC, but people bitch about it no matter what. If you pay attention to most teams and their fans (as I unfortunately tend to), you’d think no team has ever won a game legitimately.
If you want that then why are you posting on r/flopping and r/ThunderHate ?
lol thats pretty funny tbh its been like that lately for sure
I think people think those are actual subs you’re posting to lol
I wish everyone was able to discuss actual basketball semi-civilly though, it’s not like there hasn’t been great basketball to talk about. I didn’t even see any discussion on how well CMB was for you guys against the Cavs
you are cool, I wish this sub wasn’t a toxic wasteland tbh. CMB deserved more love but tbf people were praising him, but pretty much only in his statline posts. if we had made it to the conference finals, and CMB kept performing that way, he’d be getting similar love to Dylan Harper. its all good, people will see.
Making up a scenario to be the victim
Basically every single post is about the Thunder and flopping at this point lmao, this sub devolved past basketball discussion yonks ago
Here’s a real discussion: in your opinion, what makes SGA a playoff dropper?
I actually agree but you don’t have to accuse this guy of being anti-Thunder just because he’s saying the discourse will recover a little if the Spurs win
Oh im not accusing the guy lol, I’m just saying this sub is currently more of a sub about flopping rather than nba discussion.
I think we all want more actual basketball discussion.
Glad we agree. Fuck you
The entire reason I want OKC to win is because you people are insufferable. It’s because of you the discourse is like this.
I want spurs cause I want pure 1999 nostalgia
Hopefully soon we get the 2005 version too
But then we’re gonna get annoying way-too-early Wemby GOAT case glaze and bad faith discourse
I would definitely prefer to see Wemby to struggle to climb to the mountaintop. Super boring if he gets goated too fast
personally, I would prefer Wemby becoming the undisputed goat relatively quickly than any more of the Jordan vs Lebron debate
To give you an idea of how little the NBA cares to do anything about flopping, this statement never would have been made in the Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili era.
I’m so glad there’s only one game left in this series because every uncalled foul has everyone around me doing the same thing but in person. It’s definitely reached a point of no return for bitching
its a real shame when two juggernauts meet in an extremely exciting series, it has devolved into this, not the incredible basketball on display
It will def be tainted because talking about that stuff seems to be the “cool” thing now. It’s gotten to the point where I feel like I have to defend OKC/Shai at times because now it’s gotten wayyy too out of control. Is the falling and baiting annoying? Yeah, reminds me of Embiid, but if that’s what the player feels like they must do to win games then so be it. But once Silver comes out and says that he basically has no issue with it, we as fans and media just gotta stfu cuz clearly no changes are being made. If it still bothers you, then watch EuroLeague or something cuz nothing will be done. Personally, I don’t think the flopping and stuff is even that bad. A lot of very high-level basketball is still being put out there. I also think people are just tired of OKC winning. Just sucks that basketball is always having to deal with BS narratives despite this past season being one of the most entertaining in a long time.
The ref discourse will be just as bad. It will just be people realizing that the Spurs are exactly the same as what everyone claims OKC is.
Spurs vs Knicks would be amazing because once people start watching the games objectively they will realize how Dirty this Spurs team actually is.
I assure you, no matter who plays, the main topic on here will be officiating.
It will people will turn on Victor because he flops. He’s just so big and play this really dominant defense. Brunson also flops so there’s also that narrative that will take off. But everyone wants the Knicks to win so who knows. Couple years ago everyone loves Shai, now he’s a slopper. The villain turn is coming for those guys soon as well
I want the Thunder to win because watching r/nba in tears is very amusing.
What makes you think the fans of whatever team is losing won’t still be complaining about refs and foul baiting?
Brunson boutta flop like a fish too, it doesn’t matter
Brunson spends way more time getting buckets than he does hunting calls. For evidence, please see the 4th quarter of game 1 of the ECF.
It’s not hard to “get buckets” against that Cavs squad. Brunson is not getting buckets so easy if he’s guarded by Cason Wallace, Lu Dort, Alex Caruso, Steph Castle, Carter Bryant, or Dylan Harper
Love that you’re just discrediting Brunson lol tyvm
I’m not discrediting him. I’m saying the ease with which he scored against the Cavs won’t exist with OKC or San Antonio. They have far better perimeter defenders
The Cavs are fucking trash. They got their shit pushed in vs the garbage Raps and Pistons. Shameful. Didn’t even put up a fight vs the Knicks.
Winning 2 series in 7 isn’t getting your shit pushed in lol
They struggled. And as a pacers fan I think Det is garbage. Those dudes are our sons and we’ve owned their ass since the PG days. That’s just a team that plays prison ball not basketball.. Raptors are fucking ass bro. I’ve seen good basketball thru out my life. I know who are legit and who aren’t. Based off talent alone the Cavs should have swept both. Pistons were down 3-1 to the Magic. You couldn’t tell me with a straight face that Det was elite.. Cavs played like a broken team since last years playoff. They’re soft and have no ball handlers besides 2. They’ve made some of the worst TOs I’ve ever seen this playoff run.
One quarter of one game in one series. Lol.
Tired narrative. We know u salty about losing OG
Every Raptors fan knew it was time to move on from OG. He wanted out, we weren’t going to compete with him on the roster. Raps fans are super happy for OG rn to see him possibly get another ring.
None of that changes the fact that Brunson is one of the biggest floppers in the league. I’m still a fan of him, but he’s a flopper.
Not really. RJ just led the team in points and rebounds in the playoffs and he’s 25
Iq had a solid season too
Lmao same shit we said about rj. Fun fact, our current playoff win streak is the same as our head to head streak against Toronto!
Fun fact this is your window, enjoy your time! All our important players are 25 n under
Both OG and Siakam deserve their final appearances, it’s great to see them thriving while they’re still in their primes.
Uh, it definitely will be..
a lot less is the point, there’s always some bitching about refs
Brunson is a tier below, but he’s still a head snapper.
That’s funny most of the reason I want the spurs to lose is because any time they fail their fans just run to blaming the referee instead of admitting their poor shooting and failure by Wemby to dominate the boards
But every fan base is like that. The Knicks are the worse. Thunder isn’t any better. You basically want teams to win and just because of their fans? Lmao
Yes, shitty fan bases make me want teams to lose. It’s weird that you think that’s weird. Right now the Spurs are the worst fans.
That’s your opinion. What is “worst fan” based off what statistics? Because if you run a poll on the NBA sub or run it through Google or even Chatgpt … The majority will agree the Knicks have the worst fan base lol
Holy shit way to make my point for me better than I ever could. “What’s your evidence? Is it statistical? What about if you use chatGPT?”
Talk about insufferable
However, if OKC loses, NBA won’t have reason to address the flopping.
I’m a Spurs fan and I’m torn. Lol
I actually want to see lead flop vs lead flop and who will outflop each other Brunson vs Shai. Wondering if Shai will bring it out of Brunson more if they go head to head lol
lol you say this as if Brunson isn’t the biggest flopper outside of shai. Surprised he doesn’t get whiplash each game from flinging his head back at the contact he initiates.
Surprised you didn’t get whiplash from game 1
Good one?
The knicks like to whip their head back for calls too
I cannot WAIT for the tide to turn against the Spurs lmao. A dirty team led by a French guy. It’s inevitable.
If you think refs won’t be part of a brunson series, you will be disappointed.
Spurs can win many down the road. I want the Knicks to win, cause they traded Brunson away.
I just need to further the Wemby goat agenda
Last night I peaked in the Spurs Reddit and they were in there complaining about winning game 6 because it’s scripted. All they do is whine about refs and excuse their own dirty play. Between that and the way they have tried to scapegoat Fox all year makes me feel have largely fallen off as a classy fan base.
It will be good for the game regardless who wins this series. Spurs need a reality check & OKC needs to play more straight up ball.
but the Knicks have Brunson so that is not going to happen.
It will be tainted either way because the NBA naturally has a reffing problem. Okc will only exacerbate it with their history and antics.
And I’d love sixers vs okc. Make flopping so bad and so egregious the league is forced to do something about it.
If it’s okc vs knicks I hope brunson actually flops as much as his detractors claim and Hart channels his inner holmgren, make brothers officiate. Make it unwatchable, make flopping dominate discussions. This is the only way to fix this crap
Lolololololol
That’s not happening. If the Spurs win it all, people will say it’s rigged because they’re pushing Wemby to be the face of the league. If the the Knicks win it all, it’s rigged because they’re the biggest market who hasn’t won since the 70s. If OKC wins it all, they’ll say it’s because of the refs and flopping.
Somehow, someway regardless who wins they will be because now all fouls and refs are under the microscope a lot more than they have been
I mean, if you’ve watched the current series you know damn well what the Spurs are bringing to the finals lol. And have people not watched Brunson for his whole Knicks tenure?
I can tell y’all that no matter the outcome of Saturday night, there won’t be any ethical finals to watch. Bambi may preach it but he does not bring it.
lol Jalen Brunson is a master foul baiter too
Such a dumb narrative by casuals. Enjoy those late lottery picks and sucking ass while we compete for championships
I’m not a casual lol. I’m just playing devils advocate and trying to make OP sound like an idiot. From NYC and been watching and playing ball 30+ years
Lol. Have you watched Jalen before
So what happens when they make it and you realise the spurs are just as bad? Or the Knicks for that matter lol This smear campaign is ridiculous