I mean it makes sense. The Grizzlies traded JJJ to Utah under the expectation that the 2027 Jazz pick would have some chance of winning the lottery. These changes retroactively harm the return.

Grizz held out in hopes they could get that top 5 pick from Utah to the bitter end.

suck my dick you bald lizard

Grizzlies got screwed, it’s unlikely that jazz pick goes top 5 next year but anything can happen 

Memphis got fucked over by the 3 consecutive Top 5 pick rule, I understand why they voted against it. Makes no sense that this rule still counts even after the Jazz pick was moved to the Grizzlies

Very surprised that the Thunder voted for it. They were the lone vote against flattening last time. Could’ve just been playing nice since passing is inevitable, but I wonder if the 27 Clippers and 28 Mavs swaps value going up played a role. 

Edit: nvm it’s a three year deal, so it can only be good for the thunder

Based Memphis Grizzlies.

It’s so fucking stupid that they passed the no top 5 picks in three straight years rule not based on POSSESSION. If another team possesses a pick of a team who cannot qualify for a top five pick, then why should they be penalized?

I feel like more teams should have been voting no lol Are the grizzly the only team entering a rebuild?

Fuck us in particular

I don’t understand the logic for perennially shit teams to agree to this. Like why would the Kings want to hurt their odds at a top pick?

The 9 and 10 play-in teams have the same odds at the number one pick as the worst team in the league? What a fucking stupid system. The draft is meant to help replenish bad teams. It isn’t meant to make good teams better.

If I was Kleiman I would be absolutely fuming! Don’t think he would have made that JJJ trade if he knew this was coming

These changes are great. It’s no wonder reddit hates them.

I’m a homer but the Jazz pick that the Grizzlies own should be grandfathered in or something, and not affected by this rule change yet. Who knows if Memphis makes the Jaren trade with Utah had these rules been in place?

This is fucked up for the grizzlies.

Based Grizzlies

Grizzlies are the only team with sense

Gg Grizz

Lol

I don’t get why the no top 5 3 years in a row still applies if you trade the pick away. Seems like an easy fix.

I stand with the Memphis Grizzlies.

Teams will still try to be “bad”, just not the “worst”.

Wait hold on, if you’re the Sacramento kings why the fuck are you voting yes to this? This will have a trickle down effect that will cause your franchise to re-locate. I’m sorry, but if the kings are bad for another 5 years Silver is kicking yall out of Sac town. Even if you truly agree with the reform, it’s always about politics and how your team can benefit. I don’t understand why more teams didn’t vote no.

Heat with the number 1 pick in 2028!

As someone used to European sports this just makes sense to me, never understood the whole rewarded for being bad thing that american sports leagues have. Just sitting around and hoping for a top pick isn’t a smart way to be improve.

Idk what kinda take this is but this rule shouldnt go into effect immediately. At least a season, maybe 2. Too many trades with big ramifications have happened recently

Damn we the wokest team in the league apparently, good shit

The Bucks voting for this is kind of bananas

“Fuck them picks!” -the Rams -the NBA to the Grizzlies

They really wanted a top 5 pick eh

No more dealing with everybody swearing that they have a way to fix this issue?

Great now do something about flopping

guess it’s not just the players, even the owners hate the city of memphis

lmao, unlucky af but they did get a top 3 pick this year

legends

Fined 10 million dollars

Man this is way different than when we had a bunch of number combinations like you were playing the PowerBall

That Jaren trade was clutch by the Jazz a few months ago. The 2027 Jazz first and the 2031 Suns first were probably the biggest assets in that trade, and that 2027 Jazz first can’t be in the top 5 with these new rules

Jazz traded that pick just in time, because if they tried to trade their 2027 first round pick this offseason, it would’ve lost a lot of value as now it can’t be in the top 5

I really love this

Based Pera

Excellent! Now that tanking has been solved forever, we’ll never need to discuss this ever again.

Second round order is stupid. Why should the 16th best team get the 16th pick and the 31st pick?

lmfao banger

So what happens if it’s your 3rd year in the top 5? You lose the pick? It falls to 6?

Like I’ll always say, tanking will always be a thing as long as there’s a draft that’s influenced on wins/losses

But holy Christ this effectively kills the importance of it

Classic Memphis - don’t tell me what to do!

Turns out teams would rather have flattened odds instead of intentionally losing games as a strategy who would’ve thought. Great change imo, the regular season games should mean something.

Vivek doesn’t even know how bad of a situation he is in ffs

There’s always a casualty. This time, it’s the play-in games. We’ll see teams tanking to get out of the play-in. Teams tanking to get from the 7-8 play-in game to the 9-10 play-in game. Then, we’ll see teams in the 9-10 game trying to lose and secure an extra lottery ball.

Can we please use actual factual article links and not bullshit “announcement” links from Shams? Even an AI written article is preferable to the drivel Shams puts out.

I love this. An actual punishment for mediocrity.

I think this will help top 5 picks. Makes them less likely to go to a poorly structured team that doesn’t care about winning. Even the trash teams, will actually make sure young picks are picking up and learning good habits.

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It won’t work. Now losing teams in smaller markets will stay losing longer because they have less of a chance to get a potential generational player which will draw players to want to play for them so they can build a contender. Without that, they will get free agency leftovers who didn’t get signed to big markets.

Shouldn’t the rules be applied to the team that has the rights to the pick? Who cares if the Jazz pick is top 5 again if they’re not the one using it?

Is this going in to effect the next season?

If so that’s kind of fucked up lol. Teams have already traded picks for the upcoming years thinking they had x value. They’re changing the value of those picks, and the efficacy of those trades, retroactively.

I agree something should change, but not for several years, simply not fair otherwise.

That a change had to happen is not in question. That nobody did the math to see just how badly teams get hurt by finishing worst is horrible. It should have been no worse than flat odds from 1 to whatever position but the bottom three having a 50% worse possibility of being selected now compared to 4-10 just means that bad teams will not only still be bad, but they’ll be stuck with making bad free agent deals to avoid the basement instead of properly finding a balance. The restriction on consecutive lotteries should have been ‘no more than two number one overall picks in a row’ with the same restriction of no top five picks in three consecutive years.

Yeah - this is now on the owners of other small/mid market teams.

I cannot understand why owners of teams who are expected to be bad/should be rebuilding, would vote for something that is actively going to hurt them.

There will be teams now stuck in that bottom 3 that, based on odds, are going to keep getting picks in the teens, and other than just ruining there salary cap with shit contracts that will limit them as a play-in team, have no pathway to actually being good.

And all of those teams (but Memphis, who are a much better run organisation) have voted for this.

Yeah buddy, this one’s gonna sting

Grizzlies in shambles

The fact that consistently bad teams voted for this is surprising.

This will have a significant impact on small market teams who need to build through the draft. High draft picks will go to big market teams who barely missed the playoff. while bad teams could potentially get the 12 pick and will remain bad.

Please just do what the PWHL does. Fixes the whole issue

The Kings voted for this?

some of these owners are dumb af, lmao

So when will they vote against flopping?