James Harden after the Cavs were swept by the Knicks :“Genuinely, I do feel like we are the better team,”
If only there was some kind of competition that could take place to measure which team was better
Like an analytics simulation?
The Cleveland Cavaliers are your
NBAnalytical Finals Champion!!
‘simulated crowd noise’
☠️
Hang the Banner!
Load the banner
Click refuse all on the banner!
Disable ad blockers for the banner
Enable all cookies for the banner!
Confirm 2 step verification to load banner
Click all images that contain ‘a banner’.
Don’t give the nba any ideas
Build an Analytical statue!
Still no.
That guy is NEVER going to live that down. 😂
Worked for Seton Hall on the CBB sub during the canceled COVID March Madness lol
I beat the Knicks using my Cavs in 2k all the time. I have no idea why we just got swept IRL
It was really rude of the Knicks to try to eclipse the Cavs’ four-game analytic sweep with their own celebration last night. 🙄
That is clearly inaccurate.
My mouth dropped to the floor when he said it haha. I was like “please don’t do it!”, and he took the bait.
Oooh, ooh, I know, make it go 7 games, so you eliminate variance a bit as well, not just these 4 games.
Cavs could’ve had them in a best-of-15
Replay the series?
No need. Just look at the analytics
Should the NBA have the Cavs and knicks replay the series in case it was a big fluke? No disrespect to the Knicks, Im a firm believer that New York sweeping them is a huge fluke and robs the Cavs of truly accomplishing what they are capable of. I’ve spent the last few days in pure disbelief and it just doesn’t make sense to me. I’ve spent the entire regular season watching the Cavs play great basketball, it’s just not fair.
If the Cavs lose again i will face that the Knicks deserved to win, but I am just 100% sure it was a fluke and does a big disservice to the Cavs and the NBA.
LMAO I remember seeing that hockey copypasta somewhere but couldn’t find it online
I’m happy that post was archived truly an all-timer.
Something Something “if it was a fluke”
something something “win again, I’ll accept it.”
https://www.np.reddit.com/r/hockey/s/YsEkPJrP19
That is hilarious 😆
I’m still so glad my team was responsible for this.
Where you get a minimum for 4 chances and up to 7 to prove it, in order to mitigate one off flukes…
That’s dumb. Why hasn’t the NBA come up with a better system to eliminate 4 off flukes? I can’t believe they’re just gonna let the analytically worse team win…
Should the NBA have the Knicks and Cavs redo their series in case it was a big fluke?
No disrespect to the Knicks, I’m a firm believer that New York sweeping them is a huge fluke and robs the Cavs of truly accomplishing what their capable of. I’ve spent the last few days in pure disbelief and it just doesn’t make sense to me. I’ve spent the entire regular season watching the Cavs play great basketball it’s just not fair.
If the Cavs lose again I will face that the Knicks deserved the win, but I am just 100% sure it was a fluke and does a big disservice to the Cavs and the NBA.
Harden to the knicks “You choose the strip club, I choose the wing flavor, first to eat 50 wins the series”
And no Internet too!
Harden might be favored
Might be? Unless it’s Harden vs literally all of the knicks and Zion, I’m taking Harden’s team 11 out of 10 times in a wing eating contest
I hope nothing but the worst for the Knicks but dawg cmon 😭 even my pistons may have won A game (maybe). I know we looked pathetic that game 7 but Christ this series was embarrassing. Game one had the Cavs shook. That 18-1 run w/o a timeout in game two had em demoralized beyond recovery.
Yeah… welp, guess we’ll never really know 🤷♂️
Hot ones quiz. First team to give out from the hot sauce loses
alright grampa let’s get you to the strip club
please just get these clowns out of my team
Super max for harden it is
Followed by a trade after 1 season
Following his choice to quit trying and gain 30 pounds
Untucked Shirt Kyrie - Past
Black History Month Jarrett Allen - Present
Fat Suit James Harden - Future
“REPORT: James Harden signs a 3-year, $120 million dollar extension with the Cavaliers”
Don’t worry, he’ll move mid season next year cause…reasons
Kenny Atkinson is a liar
Only $40M AAV? Sounds like James is gonna be disgruntled…
Knicks fan here I’m genuinely sorry that your coach and your vet player can’t just say they got beat by a better opponent. Embarrassing.
We gotta be careful what we wish for, I’ve seen morons stating we should trade Harden for Randle like that’ll fix anything…
Please no, we don’t need any more old head vets coming in and teaching ANT any more bad habits.
I dont think I’ve ever seen anyone say that after being dominated. Seriously, thats just embarrassing. The Knicks are just peaking and they just are the best team in the conference by a mile and they embarrassed everyone.
If you look at the analytics Harden is actually correct
-Kenny Atkinson
Analytical sweep 🔥
We have the Lakers moral victory in 2023. And we have the Cavs analytical sweep. Losers keep winning.
Kenny Analyticson
Harden and analytics on Reddit. Has anyone created a metric like that here? lol
Why listen to Harden when his effective flop % has fallen so far behind OKC that he’s not even 3rd team all NBA anymore
This is the lakers moral victory situation all over
Nah fuck off that was something people memed about but none of our players actually said any shit like this lol
Where’s that dude who wrote how Jokić technically has multiple championships and is more dominant than Shaq?
Maybe next time don’t go 7 games with the fucking hospital Raptors
Was gonna say. We had TWO starters missing. Scottie was the best player that series, but most media would probably put Harden and Don as the two best. Its wild.
I was actually rooting for the raptors because: 1. You have our two boys RJ and IQ and I will always root for them, and 2. I thought you were the easier path.
Turns out I was wrong.
Y’all were probably gonna sweep us too tbh
Yeah, this. While I’m a Raptors fan, gotta be real - NYK are scary good. I hope that they win it all.
If we took a game it would be on pure heart and determination. It’s a process and sometimes even a sweep is okay. In Cleveland’s case this is not one of those times.
*this is just assuming we did what the Cavs did and beat the Pistons.
They look scary good bc their shooters haven’t been missing - shamet and bridges are have basically been on fire. Just gotta keep it up for one more series.
We’d probably get swept or steal *one* game at home or something. But we sure as shit would’ve made it harder than these guys did.
No BI made you guys play kinda better imo
Only because he was playing hurt
you say that but then down the stretch of games 5 6 and 7 after he went out injured we got completely gassed and had less size, allowing you to run small ball which worked well
we need his body out there even if he missed everything
Barnes is a beast bro. As a non Raptors fan I absolutely adore him
Daw them play live against the Warriors this year and he had a franchise record 24 rebounds. Vastly underrated player.
Or also don’t go 7 with the team that went 7 with the hospital Magic
Pistons are going to close their window already if they max Duren.
No shot they MAX Duren but the question is how far below the max? Because it could still not be the max but be crippling
Our summer league team featuring Scottie and RJ no less
2⁄8 fg 0/6 3pt
He had maybe one good game this whole series. 15pts 3ast 6tov in G1. 18pts 2ast 0tov in G2. 19pts 5ast 6 tovs in G3 and 12pts 2ast 5tov G4. Its not entirely his fault as Strus, Merril and Wade played poorly and Allen and Mobley looked dead tired. He could have spoken better than patting himself on the back after a rough series.
Look up team records after two bo7 series that go to game 7. Dead tired, dead legs, Harden is 37.
He’s still a good player, but like LeBron gone are the days where he can play well back to back to back.
Please don’t invoke Lebron’s name when talking about James harden lmao
Bro had to bring up lebron 😭 reddit is wild man. We’re having a talk about if it’s hardens fault and he brings up lebrons stat lines lol.
But Jordan’s stat lines were even better
Lebron led the Lakers in points and assists with an approximate 23, 7, and 7 average over the 4 games against the Thunder. Harden averaged almost 1.5 more turnovers than assists against the Knicks (he also played like trash against the Pistons). Harden is 5 years younger than Lebron as well. Harden is not in the same convo as Bron here.
Please do not compare his effort at this age to what lebron us doing
Yeah don’t do that it’s criminal to compare Harden to LBJ. LBJ is miles ahead of this bum and this guy chokes every time it’s time to perform. I’m sorry, but watching Harden is just insufferable. Great season player, horrible at the playoffs. His past performances do not overshadow his drop off in the playoffs.
If LeBron had these stats 5 years ago we would’ve been begging him to retire
This doesn’t even account for how badly he was abused on the defensive end by knicks pick and roll / switches onto brunson
oh my goodness, james harden! a quadruple single!
That’s crazy. I was listening to the game and they 100% said Harden hit a 3. I guess it was changed to a 2 afterwards
He definitely hit what at least looked like and was originally called a three over McBride in the second or third quarter
Genuinely, I feel like you were the worse team. But feelings can lie, I suppose.
Analytically, they didn’t get swept
Wild business saying this after having a literal record setting breakdown and also losing the close out game by 30.
Was closer to 40.
we all know we were the worst team, except for Clueless Kenny the mental patient and James the biggest choker in history Harden
At getting swept?
That boy going through it right now 💀
this is actually his 1st career playoffs sweep pretty sure, like he’s never lost this bad in the playoffs in 17 seasons until this series specifically
He’s the oldest he’s ever been. Will only get worse for him with time
I know he played a bunch of minutes, but at least last night I don’t really remember him doing anything.
Cavs good at being the dust in a school hallway that keeps a janitor employed.
Dude what the fuck is wrong with this Cavs team. It’s like all of them are brainwashed in a Kenny Atkinson cult or something where everyone reaches Atkinson levels of pure delusion.
They have no identity nor willingness to be introspective.
They waxed in R2 last year as the 1 seed last year and immediately blamed injuries from the top of the org all the way down to the bottom. The team they lost to, though? Eventual EC champs & took OKC to a very hard fought 7.
Instead building upon the core & identity that earned the Cavs the 1-seed in ‘24-‘25, the Cavs made a bunch of lateral moves. For example:
Kenny Atkinson is not a great coach. He clearly doesn’t hold his guys accountable and he refused to make necessary roster changes because of… resumes? IDK.
They also didn’t have much drive either? The post game pressers after the Game 1 comeback were disappointing from everyone on the Cavs. KA said he was happy with how his team played. Mitchell didn’t think it was a big deal, only down 1 game. Like cmon! Nobody seemed that upset about losing.
Lifelong Cavs fan here. Its this^. There’s no fire in any of the stars. There was so much emotional drive in every LeBron playoff game…and maybe that’s an unfair comparison…but to see terrible turnovers met with a straight face and a collective shrug irks me to the point where I cant even watch this team no matter how good they are in the regular season.
Also Mitchell I’m sure is a great guy, but he’s never been a winner. Not in Utah, not here. I had to bite my tongue on this for the last few years, but it’s always been apparent that building around this guy isn’t getting you anywhere.
Harden somehow played like ass and was simultaneously one of our best players all postseason. I’m sorry, but I don’t even know if we make it out of the first round with garland instead. I still don’t see it as a lateral move and I’m glad we shed his contract, dude is going to be chronically injured the rest of his career. Now if we extend harden, I’ll have an issue.
They just had a pure melt down, ownership needs to fire everyone, trade Donovan or Mobley, rebuild, and harden well I mean he’s harden has he ever done a rational thing in his life?
If his life goal is to maximize time spent with strippers he has been extremely rational.
If the nba does actually make that Vegas team a thing then you can expect harden to immediately request a trade there, and he’ll probably avg 3.1 ppg on 34% ts
Didn’t harden play well in Houston ? I thought he just was too distracted come playoff time but he had multiple all nba seasons iirc
I do agree, but it’s a ridiculous question to ask a player on a losing team how much worse they are than the team they just faced. The right PR answer is certainly to acknowledge how well the Knicks executed all series and how they are constructed. And you’d hope for some more perspective from a longtime veteran. But the question is just absurd in its vague, leading nature for any athlete that relies on high confidence in themselves.
If they admit the truth, that they are not near the same level as the Knicks that means admitting that they’re going to be spending the next 3 to 4 years of their professional lives basically wasting their time. They’ll never be bad enough to luck into a superstar and they’ll never get a real FA to show up. So what good is it to say “yeah this is about what we expected, we’re at best the 4th best team in this division and got lucky just to make it this far.”
“How much better are the Knicks than you?” That’s a hilariously messed up question to ask. He basically asked “Hey, the Knicks just belt to assed you 4 times in a row, how much better are they than your shit ass team?”
Describe in detail
Show me on the doll where the Knicks applied the belt
Like the reporter that basically told Wemby he sucks at half court shots
I could understand someone saying this after one bad game,but you got swept bro
Not just swept, but all wins were by double digits including this 37 point blowout.
And the 22 point blown lead
I actually think it’s a bigger indictment. Saying you’re the better team just means that you should have won and failed.
Sure, but there’s circumstances where it’s kinda fair. A hypothetical series where the other team shot 15 more free throws each game on ticky tack calls and barely eked out four super close wins, I can kinda see why players may see it that way. This, though… in what world could it even possibly be true?
James Harden is delusional
“Slightly delusional but I understand him” - KD in the files
That’s what KD said in the files lol
KD told that to Jeff??
The Jeff Green files.
Getoffmydickerson had some rather smart remarks about certain basketball players
Cleveland also to think he can make a difference in the team
He’s gotta be trolling, I genuinely think so
He a Comedian; This is like The Office
I do genuinely feel like Margo Robbie would want to be with me if she just got to know me.
Don’t give up. Analytics are pointing in your favor
I genuinely think you’re the better partner than her current partner
harden would know. he stood there and watched the whole game
That’s not fair to him, he jogged occasionally
make it a best of 9 and they still get swept
Thats only one more game…
Damn you’re crazy good at math
Best of 21 and they get swept.
If the Cavs were 10% as good as they somehow think they are they’d three peat
It’s hilarious how this guy chokes every year but every year it’s a new excuse.
Edit: to be clear I’m referring to harden’s stans making excuses, not harden himself.
“I actually was dealing with intestinal blockage after I engorged myself at the all-you-can-eat breakfast buffet at a strip club in New York and that’s why I played so badly, so without that we probably sweep the Knicks and then win the finals in 4, anyways fuck Daryl Morey”
What excuse did he even make lmao?
Or ever make. Like himself, on record, ever
I’m referring to harden stans my apologies for the ambiguity.
It’s not even funny anymore, this is just so delusional and disrespectful to the Knicks. They straight belted you man, sit down.
No disrespect to the Knicks, I’m a firm believer that New York sweeping them is a huge fluke and robs the Cavs of truly accomplishing what their capable of. I’ve spent the last few hours in pure disbelief and it just doesn’t make sense to me. I’ve spent the entire regular season watching the Cavs play great basketball it’s just not fair.
Now this is good pasta
I’ve never seen such disgraceful effort on defense.
That’s what happens when you play Harden on the toughest assignment and you have a frail chickenshit defending the paint.
Apparently their coach thinks he’s one of their best defenders 😂😂😂
This dude just doesn’t get it.
I’m also sure this is exactly what Cavs fans want to hear right now.
“We played good” Paint points - shit FT% - shit Rebounds - shit 3pt% - shit Fast break/ transition - shit TO - shit Coaching - shit
Analytically, you’re not.
Unfortunately feelings doesn’t match reality.
He’s right. He was on fire tonight. 2⁄8 from the field, 2 assists, and 5 turnovers 🔥🔥🔥
James just backing up his coach. Analytically, they win this series
Just look at his elimination games, he doesn’t try. He just checked out and has his manager book him the earliest flight to Cancun
wow this cavs team is built with a different level of delusion
if it were up to these guys they’d run it back with the same strategy
‘The circumstances’ AKA ‘we played a better team’
god damn what a loser. do not EVER compare this man to DWade again
knicks fans could care less… theyre partying too much right now
The could care less, so they care a little bit?
Better at blowing a 20 point lead?
(X) Doubt
Been telling people for 10+ years about Harden being an overrated MVP and everybody just wanna ignore the 7-step stepback and flopping.
Look how he influenced SGA 🤣
Analytically speaking, that is
James Harden is a liar.
Harden gets a trophy for the dumbest thing ever said after a sweep in the finals.
This is what zero accountability looks like. This is what a loser looks like. Was this what the Knicks were saying when they lost to the Pacers last year? No, they said we need to be better. Harden says we are already good enough it was just bad luck or something. There’s a reason he has no rings.
Hell nah
We all got feelings James. Doesn’t mean we should always listen to our feelings.
Or say them out loud
NBA reporters might be the only ones that loved this series more than Knicks fans
Analytically the Cavs are significantly better than the Knicks. Unfortunately for them the league follows the archaic policy of crediting the team that scores the most points the win
Complete loser mentality. This man will never be a part of a winning culture.
Just let it be over shut up start the finals.
The amount of excuses
My brother you lost by 37 & blew a 22pt lead.
“yeah that dude beat my ass but I truly believe I’m a better fighter and that I would beat his ass”
James Harden probably feels his teams were in some level better in a lot of his playoff losses. There must be some kind of common denominator as to why James Harden teams keep coming up short in the playoffs lol
Analytically James Harden has the most rings in history.
Realistically he’s the playoff equivalent of erectile dysfunction.
This is why James Harden will always be a loser.
Really, you’re not. The better team usually doesn’t get swept
Did he have some of what Kenny Atkinson was smoking?
I think I would be happier if I could be this delusional
I’ve never hated watching my team play more than since we got Harden (minus the first like 6 games we had him)…please shoot him into the sun and dont re-sign him
Why do players say this? I think LeBron said it best. The other team just had more talent. That’s a very fair assessment.
On paper the cavs actually swept the knicks, analytically speaking.
Analytically*
LOL PIECE OUT BUM
Wut a bunch of sore losers
Can’t stand this guy
We all gotta tell ourselves lies to get through dark times.
Harden has been eliminated from the playoffs in a humiliating way ever year. He gotta be the worst game 6 and 7 AND elimination player ever. His nonchalant demeanor just adds to it. This summer people will show his highlights and they will say he is very under appreciated he is and mention the warriors, thus starting the harden cycle all over again
The delusion! You lost 4 in a row