LeBron on SGA: “SGA deserves the same respect as Giannis when he’s attacking”
I feel like the majority of players consider foul baiting an annoying but legitimate way to score points despite most fans thinking that it’s terrible and should basically be subtracted from your PPG
There are some exceptions like Jaylen Brown but you rarely see players complain about other guys being free throw merchants I never felt like Harden or Embiid were really disliked around the league
Even Booker after complaining about the refs in the OKC series also said that SGA has been the best player for the last two seasons it’s like there’s a strong “hate the game not the player” mentality
Serial winning psychopaths vs people who just want to be entertained.
Pushing your edges and bending the rules as much as possible is a tale as old as time in competitive arenas.
What you are saying “bending the rules”, what we have right now is OKC can bend whichever ways they want, AND the rule is bending with them.
This league doesn’t really reward “ethical conduct”. Teams and players that try to do things the “right way” are at a disadvantage because there are teams and players that use flaws in the rules to their advantage. It’s the same thing for life in general outside of basketball. The Heat for example are one of those teams that never try to tank and for that we got screwed over on the Rozier trade and have never moved up the few times we have gotten into the lottery.
Theres no such thing as an “ethical team” every team bends the rules to their advantage in ways theirs players are effective at.
GSW used to run illegal screens for Curry multiple times a night, but no one batted an eye because people lile Curry.
Even under all this unethical talk aboit flopping and holding by OKC, the Spurs are also holding SGA on the other end, but nobody wants to talk about it because it doesnt fit the current narrative.
The Wolves were holding Wemby the entire series, hense why he got frustrated and elbowed Naz in the throat.
Except every other team does it, too.
Every team flops. Every team fouls and gets away with it.
Some are better at it than others.
No, every other team does not do it as much. There are lots of stats being thrown around that are easy to find right now demonstrating this - OKC absolutely flops and fouls more than other teams. Your comment is just the basketball version of both-sidesism. It’s lazy and wrong.
I have zero interest whatsoever in watching some teams be better at flopping and sneakily fouling than others. I don’t care if they practiced being better at it. I don’t care if it’s difficult. It’s not entertaining, and the only reason the NBA exists is to entertain.
edit: instantly blocked. coward.
I didn’t say they did it “as much.” God damn you people can’t read.
I have zero interest whatsoever in watching teams be better at flopping and sneakily fouling than others.
If you’re still watching it after saying you have “zero interest” in what the game is at this point you’re just lying to everyone.
It’s been this way for decades, at this point. You still seem to watch it though. Go outside. The game isn’t changing, and it’s been like this at least since the late 90s as far as I remember.
Most stars also employ foul baiting to varying degrees. KD and CP3 used to spam the rip through before it was banned.
Tatum uses the arm push off a ton lol
Legit the only star I think wouldn’t foul bait is like Kyrie lol
Kyrie could cook you in so many ways that foul baiting would just hinder him
on the contrary, kyrie’s insanely low FTr is probably the main thing that kept him from being a tier 1 superstar in his prime. In his 50/40/90 season with the nets, he still only averaged 61.4% TS—12th that season among 20+ ppg scorers and 9th among 25+ ppg scorers.
His play style loved dribbling around and creating space, rather than breaking down a defender and getting to the basket. If he didn’t break your ankles, he was taking a jumper drifting away from the defender.
Right, and that inevitably impacts his efficiency because free throws are simply the most efficient way for guards (that aren’t literally steph curry) to consistently score, even transcendent finishers like kyrie. There’s a reason guys like Dame and Harden reached a higher tier of scoring peak on better true shooting, despite having worse fg% and 3p%, and it’s almost entirely due to their ability to get to the rack (and thus, the line).
Yeah Kyrie avoided contact which is good for aesthetically pleasing basketball but it leads to less free throws and more misses
To much love for the game to do that BS i respect him
I hate when Luke foul baits because he will get a lot of calls but at some point they will not call it and it’s almost like he doubles down and plays for the foul instead of actually trying to get a legit good shot. It hinders him and takes him away from the primary goal which is obviously to score buckets, not to get fouled.
I don’t recall Luke Kennard doing that.
This is why I hate CP3, Brunson, and Harden. They could go legitimately get a bucket almost at will, but would rather do shenanigans to try to get a call with clearly no intention of trying to make a shot. I feel like SGA, with all his embellishments, is usually still trying to score when he flails about and/or falls over. I have no way to prove this, because and-1s are not tracked by any source that I can find
I think SGA clearly is not trying to get a bucket each time. He belongs in the group you listed.
Which is how the game used to be played and appreciated. Allen Iverson was that dude for a reason. Idk how we’ve gotten to here
Are you actually saying AI didn’t foul bait?????
He didn’t. I was there for his entire career. The man drove hard to the basket to get a bucket, not to get a foul.
He didn’t dive into you with the intention of getting a foul, he drove to the basket with the intention to score. And he dribbled around you first.
40 Allen Iverson Handles But Each Opponent Gets More Exposed
Nothing in that video looks like what we see today. The man was shooting over you, not intentionally diving in to you
This is a highlight compilation, of course it’s not gonna show the times he was looking for a foul and got it. Foul baiting has been a thing since the 80s to various degrees and in the 2000s it was just as bad as it is today, players are just smarter now.
Using AI as the example 😂😂 this sub is so cooked
Bruh AI was constantly falling on drives
Falling on drives ≠ foul bait. He was attacking the basket hard as the smallest dude on the court, and he hit the floor without getting calls most of the time
because its not a winning strategy. you can blame the refs, blame adam silver, blame whoever, but AI never won (and he was definitely a foul baiter too) and Kyrie only won as a second option. MJ, Lebron are the two goats and MJ was a massive foul baiter and Lebron was a flopper.
thats why Kyrie’s game is so aesthetic and beautiful to watch
Steph doesn’t foul bait because he wouldn’t get the call either way
Steph didnt use to he does now seen him jump into folks for the 3pt foul
Jaylen foul baits too, enough legitimizing that ass hat
The players know it’s a ref/rule problem
Yup. Hate the game not the player.
That being said still annoying that they help perpetuate it
game recognizes game.
Foul baiting didn’t even come up in what LeBron saying, but social media’s decided it’s the only thing you all can talk about.
Bron talked about the element fans don’t want to accept: drawing fouls is a result of beating the defense. Players can’t consistently draw fouls on players who are in-position and not off-balance. SGA is elite at stop and start, while also being an elite driver and mid range shooter. That means defenders are constantly in a “damned if you do, damned if you don’t”. If they don’t play up, SGA will just pull up and knock it down. If they play the shot, he’ll drive by. Then he can stop and start to catch you off balance and reaching, drawing a foul.
Fouls are a sign of good offense 90% of the time. I’ve seen more people be mad at this simply because they are told to be mad by the discourse on social media. And of course, media companies feed into it by making it the big story that defines the watching experience.
Makes sense that Jaylen Brown want to hate the game and not the player, as they’re both ahead of Shai in drawn fouls per game
These guys actually have to try and guard him. They know how good he is.
The problem is also that social media has forced flopping and foul baiting to mean the same thing. Selling contact on a play where a foul occurs shouldn’t be considered baiting. The refs are just terrible and pick and choose what they do/don’t see so we see it being done by more and more guys. It makes the game uglier, but like we see whenever the compilations get posted, they’re legit fouls. The league needs to fix the ref problem or nothing else matters.
Because their goal is to score regardless it looks ugly or illegal. To them, if the ref does not call, it is a legal move.
From fan’s perspective, it is about fairness that the rules in place should be followed. And such rules are in place because it balances the attacker and the defender. Right now, attacker has all the rights and tools (illegal screen, carry, foul baiting and travel). And defender has to play with no hands.
I feel it’s fine for fans to complain abt it bc we want a better product/more continuous game flow.
When players or coaches complain about other players doing it, they just sound like sore losers bc their goal is to win given the same set of rules. The exception being of course Dillon Brooks who already established an ironic and self-aware hater persona.
Jaylen Brown only complains that he doesn’t get the same whistle. He wants to be SGA.
I agree with hating the game and not the player. I love SGA’s game. Smooth mid range, fluid offensive player around the basket, IQ is out of this world.
I just cannot stand the fact that he foul baits. He’s way too talented and can get whatever shot he wants so it seems so redundant to me. But I also understand that players will do whatever they can whenever the rules on the court aren’t being enforced. We saw that with Wemby and Hartenstein.
Because they know the nba and refs could stop it anytime but they don’t want to
I think they hate playing against players like SGA and Harden, but they know that they benefit from foul baiting too at times.
If stars like SGA get less FTs, then it means everyone else also gets less and it’ll affect their stats and future contracts.
At the end of the day, this is a children’s game. The point is to entertain the fans, no matter how serious the players think it is. None of it matters at all.
Exactly. So people can hate on SGA and the Thunder all they want. If they don’t like something, they can voice those opinions
And even the exceptions often can’t be taken seriously, in particular Jaylen, with what a hypocrite he is.
Unsurprisingly, the top comment has nothing to do with anything that Lebron just said. I’ll get downvoted for pointing it out. People see SGA’s name in a post title and this is all they want to talk about in this sub.
Then they should stop crying about the refs if they have no problem with it lol the refs call it then they complain then go on podcast and say its all good part if the problem
SGA and Giannis are not refereed the same way. Players grab, choke, and hammer Giannis the similar to they used to with Shaq. He is hit on every drive.
SGA overly sells minimal contact. Imagine Giannis with SGA’s whistle, and imagine SGA with Giannis’s whistle.
I still think there’s a difference between foul baiting and throwing yourself around like a ragdoll.
Foul gooning?
I like your style.
What’s the difference if they’re actually being fouled? We’ve seen countless videos posted of it and people are so upset with the player embellishing contact that they convince themselves that 100% legit fouls shouldn’t have been called.
Drawing fouls is a part of the game but the offensive player seeking out the contact and then hitting the deck from the contact is the problem. None of this would have been called in older eras, everyone would have just laughed.
D wade, Jerry west, AI all free throw merchants lol. all of them “seeked out contact”, especially D wade
In the last game SGA hit a mid post back down, spin on his pivot foot, multi pump fake that baited Carter Bryant into a stupid foul. This is something Kobe did ALL THE TIME. Carter Bryant himself got pissed after it happened because he knew he got baited into leaving his feet. The game thread lost their mind about it and acted like SGA is the only player in NBA history to bait a player into a foul on a pump fake.
I never liked that they called those a foul. How does jumping into the defender considered a foul? That should never be considered a foul.
blame adam silver, he could fix it if he wanted to lol
The push and pull with the SGA narrative is actually hilarious to watch
Depending on the thread you’re in, determines if you’ll be upvoted or downvoted for what you say about him lmao
Congrats on learning how the internet works buddy
This one is extra funny because LeBron fans are conflicted lol
I’ve seen Luka fans on NBA Twitter getting mad at him for praising SGA so much
It’s very strange lol
Fans might end up treating this Shai comment as more controversial than when LeBron said Daryl Morey was “misinformed or not really educated” about the Hong Kong post.
he is skilled, talented, and a flopper. both can be true at the same time
except the narrative around “flopping” is disingenuous… either every player does it and we should shut up or he’s somehow a part of a league wide conspiracy.
And if course they won’t respond to you because they know they’re full of shit. We all know this wouldn’t even be a conversation if it were other players like Jokic. It’s only a conversation to tear down Shai and the Thunder because people hate to see them win.
unfortunately it causes cognitive dissonance to most people
It’s part of the game. Anyone who has ever played sports has been encouraged by coaches to draw contact and then “sell it.” The team with the most points win the game. Free throws = more points. You play to win the game, unless you want to be that kid in that ad who says “it was me!”
I played at an open gym a few years back and the guy I was mostly guarding would just lower his shoulder into my chest every fucking time he had the ball. I ain’t gonna sell something in an open gym but that was literally the only thing I could have done to stop it.
Bulllshit my coaches never told me that and I don’t believe they were outliers.
He sells everything. Which to me is slightly different than a flop. A flop is when a guy completely makes up contact with his reaction. SGA does also flop a fair bit too though. But the NBA needs to actually enforce its anti flopping rule and not on a “sell” just on the flops, I think punishing the flops will also reduce the “sells” though.
Guy on reddit: “SGA is a flopper and honestly I can’t even watch anymore.”
Guy with more on court basketball experience than any other player ever who literally just played against SGA in the playoffs: “You gotta respect his game.”
redditors complain about Shaq criticizing soft bigs yet he has 15 years of experience being one of the most dominant bigs of all-time
Bit of a non sequitur, but I’ll bite. People complain about Shaq’s criticisms because he has consistently shown a bias in critiquing big men that seems to be rooted in an insecurity that he will be surpassed or forgotten as THE best big man of the modern NBA. He often seems to speak more out of pettiness than experience in those instances. But that is not to say, in general that Shaq doesn’t have some good input on the NBA. His experience as not only a player, but an all-time great does have a lot of value in how he sees the game. I wouldn’t say all his takes get discredited nor would I say the takes he has that do get discredited are discredited by anything related to his on court experience.
I mean he has literally called Jokic one of the best bigs ever and maybe even better than himself
he’s never been wrong criticizing dudes like Gobert being soft as hell. like dude got played off the court vs. Spurs and got outscored by Bismack Biyombo
Players only care about winning. And flopping is rewarded.
Of course they respect it.
I mean I think this is pretty easy to differentiate. LeBron, as a player, has a different perspective then us. He too flops at times and respects finding ways to score. But as fans, we don’t. I watch SGA time and time again and get annoyed. Its different being a fan versus a competitor
This is literally unrelated to the narrative. Lebron is talking Xs and Os here and you didnt watch the video.
There’s not push and pull - I never understand these comments. TWO THINGS ARE TRUE AT ONCE. And they aren’t mutually exclusive in any way whatsoever. These are parallel conversations. Not intersecting ones
If anyone says he’s not good and only flops, they’re totally full of it
But he’s an annoying player to watch and I don’t mind the hate train picking up steam
Picking up steam lmao.
He’s been the most hated player for 2 years in a row, and it keeps getting worse
Oh I know. I disliked them before they won last year
But yeah it’s only gotten worse with them winning now
Well LeBron, r/nba says he only is good at flopping so you clearly don’t know about basketball
SGA narratives are probably the most insane I’ve seen since ironically Heat LeBron lol
I haven’t seen this big a circlejerk against any player since then for purely on-court reasons KD was obviously hated but solely after joining the Warriors never when he was still in OKC
After every OKC game there are highly upvoted posts basically saying SGA is a manufactured superstar and the worst MVP of all time who would average 19 PPG if he didn’t flop
It’s worse because of how social media echo chambers have evolved.
I mean I believe in last years player ranking for this sub, Shai got 5th or something.
The lowest you can have him the past 2 seasons is 2nd lol
r/nba voted Steph Curry ahead of him in the year 2025 AFTER OKC won it all lol
That’s as blatant of a “I like Steph and hate SGA” vote as it gets
lol I forgot about that, coming off an MVP and FMVP this sub voted him as below Luka on their “best players” ranking.
It might be slightly worse in some online spaces, but it’s nowhere close to as bad as Heatles LeBron was.
The little old ladies at church couldn’t even name 3 players in the league but they had negative opinions about James and the Heat and how it was unsporting to form a super team bc you weren’t good enough to win. The little old ladies at church don’t even know who SGA is
Somewhere in the last 5 years, NBA fans decided that if their team lost its because of a conspiracy by the refs and the league against their favorite team and the discourse has been cooked ever since.
I honestly think Embiid hate was more out of control than this but yeah basketball discourse is terrible these days
I felt like Embiid hate was mostly Reddit while SGA hate is on every platform
Jokic is super popular on Reddit so Embiid became hated by association while it feels like every single other fanbase in the league even non-rivals hate SGA
If anything Instagram and Twitter are somehow even more anti-SGA than this sub is whereas with Embiid r/nba was the clear Ground Zero for the discourse against him
Yeah true Embiid was prob mostly this sub
100% accurate. OKC flop + foul narrative is all over my social medias.
I just want to have discussions about how great the last 2 games have been from a basketball standpoint, but this sub clings to narratives and clip-bait. Was the iHart hair pull egregious? Yes. Acknowledged. We can move on. There was a ton of great basketball played the past 2 games that we can discuss.
This whole sub was excited about watching these 2 teams eventually meet in the WCF, now that they have it, all that’s being done is complaining lol. Just enjoy it!
Problem is that most people who aren’t thunder fans didn’t think last game was great from a basketball standpoint… the foundation of your wishlist is broken. Everyone loved game 1 because it was competitive and called pretty evenly. Ihart got away with way more than hair pulling game 2
So every time the thunder win is because of the refs and every time they lose it was perfectly officiated right
Log off of social media and watch the game. Both games were phenomenal if you’re a neutral. Right now the most talked about thing on this sub is SGA falling on shot attempts, to which I would say, doesn’t that lead to a 5 on 4 advantage for the Spurs? Why are people upset over this?
iHart played to the level that he was allowed to. Do I think he’s going to get away with what he did in G3? No, I think the refs will be watching very closely, but transversely Castle might start getting called for holding SGA. It’s a be careful what you wish for situation.
Everyone loved game 1 because it was competitive and called pretty evenly
Thunder were called for 7 more fouls in G1 and the Spurs shot 10 more FTs. Both teams had the same number of fouls called against them in G2, Thunder shot 7 more FTs. You’re just happy the Thunder lost G1, and that’s okay! Just be honest with yourself lol
Embiid hate had a mod involved in posting Embiid slander. The mods just remove positive OKC posts, don’t actually post anything negative themselves
You know this sub is pathetic when even a Lakers fan is pointing out this sort of behavior
The embiid hate had a pretty strong racial undertone that made it worse imo
It was hilarious how this subreddit would call Embiid a dangerous thug but then also talk about how Jokic is from a war torn area so nobody should ever fuck with him or else he’ll know how to make them pay. But he’s also a classy boy that could never hurt a fly and it’s unfair how rough people are with the gentle boy.
I remember this sub being flooded with “Embiid could never be an American” during the Olympics. Just embarrassing
It’s way past Embiid now lol, literally Miami LeBron is the only comparable atp I’ve never seen a player so hated with narratives discrediting him
Well it’s obvious that the only reason he’s the only guard to ever average 30+ pts on 55% from the field this season is because defenders aren’t allowed to touch him and every time he misses the refs give him free throws
I calculated this after the regular season ended, he’s still converting at a good clip even if you remove all shooting fouls from non-and-1s and just make them misses.
Here’s how he stacks up against the top 12 FTA.
So guys like KD, Jokic, and Brown are the best at not taking hits to their %s in this case, and Avdija, Paolo, and Zion cool off the most.
I’ve seen a lot, I mean a fuck ton of shit about his flopping but I have never seen someone legitimately call him either of those things. People know he’s elite they just think he’s a bitch too.
A lot of those people definitely discredit his skill/impact as well
This sort of hyperbolic false dichotomy is just gross.
You can recognize that SGA is a fantastic player while still disliking the baiting aspect of his game. They aren’t mutually exclusive.
LeBron also told me Bronny was better than players in this league. Can’t always be right
I mean he was absolutely right about that. It took Bronny like 2 years after having a heart attack on the court to be a solid playoff contributor
Lol solid playoff contributor where?
It was when Smart was hurt and not playing during the Rockets series. Bronny played meaningful non-garbage time minutes. I know you saw that LeBron to Bronny lob for a reverse layup highlight 😂
Literally like two weeks ago, do you watch basketball?
What did he do? Cardio while getting blown out?
He performed respectably as a late-rotation bench guy. Relative to other late second round picks he did well.
solid playoff contributor?? lmaooo what are yall talking about
even Adou Thiero was ahead of him in rotation
He also told me Space Jam 2 was not going to totally suck balls
I had low expectations and had a decent time watching it. The Michael Jordan halftime joke was hilarious.
Big difference between hyping up your kid and find me a parent that would say “ehhh he is mid” vs him taking about someone he is not related to nor teammates with
big difference between hyping up your kid vs. saying he’s better than a lot of players in the league
doesn’t know ball
Lebron to OKC confirmed
If LeBron actually took a vet min to go to OKC they’d truly be the most hated team ever lol
All of the current hate + anti-LeBron fans who don’t want to see him get another ring
Laker fans may go into psychosis lol
If this happened, we would need to sign Westbrook as well for maximum hate
Lebron + Westbrook + Draymond all on league minimums. The levels of hate would block out the sun.
Oh fuck im close.
Westbrook hate has died down a lot in the last few years. I don’t think a lot of people would blame him for going back to OKC for his final year for one last chance at a ring
Honestly I think people would respect it if Westbrook went back to OKC on a vet minimum.
No it hasn’t imo he just isn’t that important right now. People will seriously try to say that Russ was never a winning player still
I’d like that more.
As a Thunder fan I’d embrace it but I have a hard time imagining LeBron wanting to live in Oklahoma or potentially come off the bench.
No way we’re not starting Lebron lmfao what the fuck. Dude is literally the perfect archetype of what we’d want
Dude would be absolutely feasting on open catch and shoot looks + would be the best compliment to shai we could ever have. Shai draws two and swings it to lebron ahead of steam with lob threats and 3 point shooters everywhere, good luck. Also wouldn’t have to work that hard on defense, fill our size issues and could sit every other game
A man can dream
Yeah I could definitely see him starting but in my dream scenario he’s heading the bench unit as a great playmaker and absolutely torching the opponent’s reserves.
He’d probably do that anyway, similar to what dub’s minutes usually look like. Sub out at 6-6:30 and start the 2nd
We’d never need to play him for longer than 6 min stretches anyway
I don’t think any team will ever be more hated than the Heatles were
As someone who loves Lebron and always respected his game, I can’t lie, if he went to OKC I’d be hating. I truly despise the way that team plays and they’re already good enough even without their shenanigans, they don’t need another star
This subreddit gonna say LeBron doesn’t know ball now lol
They were just roasting Windy for defending OKC in the Jay Williams clips by saying he’s a “fat slob who never played ball in his life.” Wonder what the spin will be on fucking Lebron James
They will just flat out act like it doesn’t exist, just like when he’s gotten big praise from : Scottie, LeBron, Steve Nash, booker, Jaylen brown, Hali etc. literally all have highly praised but it just doesn’t exist to this sub. But wait Jay Williams and Nick wright said he sucks !
This is just Xs and Os, not everything is related to media coverage
Giannis with a full run way at his size is still something else but the threat of SGA from the elbows/his pet spots 16 ft out creates a whole separate hell on top of his finishing game b/c of how those areas can be leveraged into areas to drive from. That and doubling from those areas is very difficult without easily being put in very tough rotations.
wait who should I believe about Shai ? Lebron James or r/nba ?
r/nba, they actually played shai in the playoffs
you’re making a great point, hard to deny this subs experience
I mean to be fair Lebron can be correct here and it still be a bad product to watch. I don’t blame SGA for doing what he does or anyone who goes to the line a lot, I blame the league for letting the officiating get to a point where its just a bad product to consume.
If it were bad to watch, we wouldn’t be having record viewership this year. Reality is a bunch of more casual fans have probably latched on to the NBA this year with so many broadcast options.
le jeu respects le jeu
Shai is really the basketball embodiment of the judo principle “flexibility beats strength.”
Biggest thing I’m getting from this is LeBron’s beard is gray already and he dyes it. His whole shape-up is white where its growing back in and hasn’t been dyed yet
Most of the players today foul bait and flop unfortunately so theres really no solid reason to hate on one of the best at it over the rest of the league that still does it too
If you want elite efficiency now a days, you either need to be like Shaq/Jokic levels from 2, Curry volume and efficiency from 3, or be good at foul baiting
Yup, that’s just how the math shakes out. High true shooting % can come from either (a) high volume, high accuracy 3 point shooting, (b) high volume, high accuracy free throw shooting, or © extremely high accuracy 2 point shooting.
All of the most efficient high volume scorers excel in one or multiple of these areas (SGA, Jokic, Giannis, Steph, Butler, KD, etc.). You’ll even see guys like Zion and Reaves up there for efficient volume for the same reasons.
Kon Air is here to save the league
He didn’t mention flopping once man, watch the damn video
They’re allowed to talk about whatever they damn well please.
And he’s a 100% right…
LeCompliment
Whoa woah whoa, yall are supposed to be in the multiple threads about SGA falling down. What are you doing here?
Hes talking about defensive respect, not “media coverage” or whatever we’re arguing about today
Brons iq is so crazy man, I wonder if he’ll want to be a coach when the fuckery is finally over
Leflop knows floppers
Well he is getting respect….by the refs
LeDefensiveAnalyst
I get what he is saying but I think Giannis is going to command a different level of respect in that situation because he can truck stick your ass in a way that SGA cannot.
I think the amount of respect varies depending on how they’re calling sga any given night. If he’s getting away with pushoffs/off-arms or ripthroughs or falls, then you absolutely have to treat him as a dominant force alike to giannis. If he’s not getting that whistle, then all you have to do is pressure up and force the pass.
Thats why people are so annoyed with his style, because it is dependent on what the league feels like allowing any given night, which gives the already opaque reffing even more power over the outcome of games
Can Lebron coach the team I follow? Asking for 50k friends.
Absurd.
LeBallKnower
Here come all the thunder fans somehow using this to excuse ihart hair pulling.
It’s like cheesing in a video game, sure it is a legitimate strategy, but you are not getting my respect for that.
Foul baiting is equivalent to on-field sign stealing in basement. Annoying, arguably unethical…but if it helps you win, you’ll like it.
Bro, if active players have to come out and try to defend shai. You know the league is cooked. We can see with our own fucking eyes lmao. We can not take this game seriously when the MVP is splashing around like magikarp.
He’s not defending him he’s just describing how a defense has to treat him. Watch the damn video.
What lebron is saying is he attacks the basket. Ok, that is fine, but he also does not need to flop all the time. Like you can not prepare to defend someone if you think they might flop. It is like when QBs in the NFL fake a slide to not get tackled. https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/1tkn485/yahoo_shai_gilgeousalexander_has_fallen_to_the/
He’s not defending shai, he’s talking about how you HAVE to defend shai on the court as an opposing team.
LeRespect
I like how everyone is taking this as LeBron isn’t calling him a flopper for some reason. Guys, LeBron knows he is one hundred percent a floppy foul baiting annoying ass player. But he also knows those are skills which make him really hard to guard, and that he is also skilled ( which honestly even reddit understands). He’s good, but also annoying and embarrassing, it can be and is both ways
So none. One travels and elbows and the other carries, travels, and flops and flails to the ground.
The 2 most pathetic no aura “mvps” in our lifetime
A joke to the sport
One flopper telling everyone else that another foul baiting flopper is relevant shocker
Its literally just Xs and Os. He puts points on the board and the defense has to respect him, what does that have to do with the narrative? Watch the damn video
Just because you attack doesn’t mean you are fouled. Giannis is always trying to score
And even more disrespect when he’s flopping
Fuck LeBron and fuck SGA.
Floppers don’t deserve any respect at all.
as a suns fan, fuck giannis too, dude spammed trucking guys in the finals and hardly ever got charge calls, was almost always blocking calls
Stay mad, up the deers!
I agree. He’s already getting to the rim, he just doesn’t need to fall down everytime as well.