Jalen Brunson is having another all time playoff run - averaging 27.6⁄3.3⁄7.6 on 59.3 TS%
After putting up a career hight 14 assists in a playoff game tonight- he continues to carry his team deep in the playoffs.
i just wish he was taller then he might be a good nba player. Maybe even if he had a smaller head
Nah for real though. Dude is short af. Definitely needs to work on that part of his game.
Crazy is that he’s basically 5’11” if you discount his head (which is useless in basketball)
According to Kelly Oubre he uses his massive head to bitch slap people with his braids
What? Without his head he’d be like 4”11
I meant if he had a normal size head
Which head ☠️
I need to see him in the gym working on his height. Get some workouts in, collab with wemby, do some tall workouts together, and he’ll be good.
He really needs to start hanging upside down like a bat when he sleeps to add height, otherwise he isn’t taking basketball seriously
Guy behind me tonight kept screaming BIG HEAD BRUNSON I was cracking up
Becky gonna have to eat her words if he leads the Knicks to a title
The Jalen Brunson bobble head is the only one where its head to body ratio is smaller than the real life version.
If he were taller, maybe he’d be a dude. A 1A type player.
Say the line, Bart:
EVERYONE’S BETTER THAN JALEN BRUNSON UNTIL IT’S TIME TO BE BETTER THAN JALEN BRUNSON
Hali?
Gotta see how our dawg is looking after the torn achilles next season. Brunson has legit leveled up this post season and is playing better than he did against indy last year
Amazing what he can do when he’s not playing 48 minutes every game.
Idk what kind of jimmy neutron brain blast it took for Mike Brown to realize he had KAT on his team and could be more than a spot up shooter, but I wish Thibs had it last year.
I think it took Brunson finally buying in tbh
There was a point this year where the KAT Brunson dynamic was borderline dysfunctional, then they figured things out.
And 42 minutes every game for the whole regular season
Jalen Brunson has somehow quietly become one of the best playoff performers of the decade. It’s every year, he’s making meaningful leading contributions to deep playoff runs.
The anti-Harden
I wouldnt call those all time numbers in this day and age. But good number 1 option playoff team numbers.
Be good to see him do it against a potential OKC or SAS defense tho.
im convinced the knicks will win it all because the spurs and thunder are going to actually kill each other before the WCF is over
Can’t believe we’re busting out the excuses before the Knicks even play them
i really didn’t mean it as an excuse, moreso a joke about the different styles in both conferences. the way the knicks are playing i’m sure they have a good chance of taking it anyway
You’re good, I just promise you if the Knicks win g1 of the finals the very first thing anyone will say is that the other team is tired
just tell em you guys are rusty if you lose g1 after you sweep the cavs
Can’t believe we’re already busting out the victim complex before the game has even been played
The level of physicality in that series has been next level. So much pushing and shoving and grabbing. JDub and Harper already both got hurt so who knows what else could happen. I back the Knicks to beat anyone in a seven game series at the moment but whoever comes out of the West will likely have been battered. Cleveland’s lack of physicality compared to Detroit is probably the biggest positive for NY.
don’t forget ajay!
This is how I am learning he’s injured.
it was like right at the end of g2, it didn’t look horrible but it didn’t look great either. was clutching his hammy after a landing
He’ll play.
Ajay is not on the injury report, he’s fine.
If the Knicks do win we’ll get the “cakewalk” argument thrown at us constantly
Yeah I’ll accept that in a heartbeat.
Fuck all that, only one team can be crowned champion a year and they can’t change that reality. Let them chirp that sad loser chirp, they all had a shot.
Couldn’t care less what people say if that was the situation lol
I mean it takes common sense to understand Knicks have had a cake walk to the finals and will be playing against a team in the Finals who will be coming out of a straight dog fight of a series. Knicks would have a chance even without that but this is part of the playoffs. Every winner has to have some luck go their way sometimes and you guys watching us beat each other up while playing the Hawks, 76ers and Cavs is definitely beneficial for the Knicks. No matter which way you want to cut it. Even fully healthy I think the Knicks are more than capable of beating my Spurs but if we have no Harper? We don’t stand a chance lol or Fox as well
They had such a cake walk a bunch of nba experts were saying they lose their first two series. The revisionist history is crazy.
I promise you I never thought anything special about the Hawks, 76ers and Cavs. Regardless of who you have played though you guys look like a true title team. You guys were heavily favored each series, let’s be fr
I had this thought after watching game two… spurs and OKC are actually hurting each other it’s wild
Brunson is averaging 29.4/3/6.8 as a knick in the playoffs for 4 years. It’s not only this run - this kind of consistent run is historic. This run in itself is also historic for a guard considering efficiency and assist to turnover ratio.
Is that historic? I mean Tatum between 2020-2025 went to 2 finals, 4 conference finals and averaged 26-9-6 and nobody was calling that “historic”.
No one is calling SGA going 30-5-6 the past 3 years in the playoffs “historic”.
Theyre just really solid number 1 option numbers.
What Jokic did in 23 (30-14-10) and Giannis (30-13-5) did in 21 - thats a historic run.
All those guys you just mentioned are going to be first ballot hall of famers. Sounds historic to me.
Brunson is 4th in playoff ppg all time if you only include his stats as a Knick
Thats a very cherry picked stat. What if you only include every players best 4-year playoff run like you have done with Brunson. I bet he suddenly isnt 4th all time anymore.
Less cherry picked when you consider he was a bench player in Dallas.
So his playoff stats as a number 1 option are cherry picked? Lmao
Na but using his 4 best years in his prime kinda are. I mean pick the 4 best consecutive years of everyone else I’d imagine Brunson numbers drop all time.
Dude is a baller and totally playoff riser… All time just seems a bit of a stretch. Especially since he’s doing it in the weaker east.
Yes its cherry picked. You have applied a convienient rule for Brunson but not for other players.
Look pick Shaq best 4 years, now hes above 30ppg. Lebron 2015-2020 is above 30ppg Pick any 4 Jordan years and he is above 30ppg Wilt 1960-1965 is above 30ppg Shai last 3 years is above 30ppg Jokic post bubble is above 30ppg Giannis from 2020-2024 is above 30ppg
Thats just from a quick bballreference search.
He is already behind 7 others from the top of my head if you apply the same rule to them.
All I’m reading is wow - look at the lists of players he’s compared too 🤣
These are all super top level hall of famers. Crazy he’s done this at all.
Best 4 years? These are not his “best 4 years”. These are his only 4 years and a number 1 option. How is this hard to understand?
Its also his best 4 years. How about compare it to other players when they were the number 1 option not their entire careers when they were young/old/on the bench. Instead youre comparing 1 players career to a Brunson 4-year stretch. Thats apples and oranges.
I mean I guess him being 4th is a stretch in that sense but he’s definitely a top 20 playoff performer of all time
The idea of a run is inherently cherry picked. That’s what a run is. It’s not a players whole career. Jalen Brunson is on a run that objectively qualifies as historic.
Then why not compre it to other runs instead of other players entire careers. Thats the cherry picked part
These dudes simply want to glaze there’s no room for intelligent discussion.
You guys are both making silly counters because you only see it your way and not willing to see the other way.
You’re saying it’s cherry picked because you think he only picked it based off years. He’s saying it’s not because those years that you believe were the main intended reason just happen to be the years which he became the starter / main guy on a different team… which is why what the person is saying.
“His stats the last four years” vs “his stats since becoming a starter or since becoming a Knick” may be the same stat but can be seen differently as evident by your discussion with that guy. Cherry picking isn’t the intent, it just happens to be a coincidence
Harden had a better 8 year run in Houston and gets called obese Brick Ross for it
Brick Ross lmao that’s the first time I’ve heard that one
Different standards I think. Beard has insane expectations cuz he legit has GOAT tier regular seasons. And tbh his playoff numbers from 2017-20 legit rival second Cavs stint prime Bron
I guess Giannis is an all time playoff performer even better then 27/12/5 on higher efficiency
“Jalen Brunson is having another very solid number 1 option playoff run”
Doesn’t quite have the same ring to it
These arent even better than Harden’s elimination game stats in Houston which is funny how differently they’re talked about lol
He is currently 20th all time in ppg in the playoffs. Where is the cutoff for “all time”? Maybe 19th?
*actually he is 19th if you exclude the ABA. 20th is Kobe. I agree. The cutoff should be 19.
Thats a completely different question to “this independent run being all time great”. Many NBA players have averaged 30+ in the playoffs in an individual run but their career average is much lower due to bad runs and getting old.
You’re right. The title implies just this post season which is really good but wouldn’t really register as all time. His playoff run in NY (and that crazy unexpected Dallas performance) is starting to border on all time though.
Is that list adjusted for pace?
All time guard numbers tbh
I wouldnt call those all time numbers in this day and age
I think you are confusing regular season numbers with playoff numbers. Take a look at the regular season vs playoff statlines Jokic has put up the last couple of seasons, the difference is stark. Same with Shai, though this season a little less so.
27/3/7.5 on 59% TS isn’t historic, it’s super impressive, but not historic.
You should probably look at Jokic stats again. His finals run he put up 30⁄13.5⁄9.5 on 63% TS. In 23-24 his scoring went up too.
Also the teams Jokic/Shai are a whole lot better defensively than what Brunson is playing.
Brunson is on a hell of a run but there is A LOT of guys with better 4 year stretches.
Yeah, this is pretty much what I would expect from him against the Cavs perimeter defense. It’s still very good, but if he does it against Spurs or Thunder, now that would really be impressive.
In this era, weighted for playoff reffing, thats an awesome statline. How many players are averaging better numbers?
Active Players off the top of my head that have had similar or better numbers in a playoff run:
Lebron, Durant, Curry, Harden, Kawhi, Giannis, Jokic, SGA, Luka, Tatum, Mitchell, Butler, Booker, Murray, Haliburton, Edwards, Wemby,
Borderline but probably miss the cut: Ja, Trae, Brown, Embiid, Klay,
So yeah - its impressive but not historic.
I guess i meant this year. It feels way more physical this postseason, and i know offensive ratings are really low
It feels way more physical… In the West.
Brunson cant choose who he plays but watch how Clevland is guarding Brunson vs how anyone from Minny/SAS/OKC is guarding. It’s a whole lot different.
I’m still not convinced he can be the #1 on a playoff team.
I was dead wrong on Brunson. I thought he’d be a bust for New York when he signed that contract in 2022. One of my biggest misses ever
Love going back to that old thread on this sub
“Walmart Fred vanvleet” cracks me up every time
“Deandre Ayton is literally twice the player Brunson is”
I legit went back to it after last season playoff run and only saw like 3 comments out of hundreds saying it was a good move
I liked Brunson but thought it was an overpay and that it wasn’t the answer for us. I’m an idiot
Bro I wanted Dejounte Murray lmao
I think everyone thought it was an overpay lol, obviously 1000% worth it though
You got a link?
https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/s/n4EIUZB1D3
appreciate you
Not gonna lie at best I thought he was gonna be like 22-7 guy for the Knicks didn’t expect him to beMVP level
I remember comments just saying they were hopeful hed be a strong 16ppg playmaking point guard for Randle. Brunson had different plans lol
I think he can. Sga and wemby are better but Knicks are a strong team just like okc and sas
Yea wemby or shai will make sure
Are those all time great playoff numbers?
Averaging 27p/7a over 12+ playoff games is not super rare, but it’s a pretty strong list of players who have done it, and if he does maintain it for the rest of these playoffs he’ll become the only player besides LeBron to do it more than twice.
https://www.sports-reference.com/stathead/tiny/SrXGC
Not “best of all time” but, yeah, they are up there because if anything it’s “great” because it’s consistent and he doesn’t disappear for games like harden.
I mean he just had a pretty awful game he had 14 assists but that’s mainly because the Cavs just refused to cover Josh hart but the Knicks won. I’m not trying to say he’s not good but all time is a bit of a stretch
I mean he just had a pretty awful game he had 14 assists
Did you read what you wrote here? bottom line is: They won, he had 14 assists
It’s getting to the point where people are just distorting reality to discount Brunson. He was fantastic in this game.
Yeah saying a game with 14 assists was bad is idiotic. He was efficient enough scoring and made a ton of good plays playmaking. I’ll take this game over him forcing up shots in double teams trying to score 30
?? what are you on he had a great game. the fact that he can modulate his game based on what the defense is giving him is a huge asset. they were hard doubling him and his response was to trust his teammates and dish out a playoff career high in assists rather than force it. that’s what a winning player does, he played amazing
He played great but all time ?
They are in fact one of the playoff numbers of all time
Good, but “all time”?
Yeah, great run, but all time may be a bit much
I think some people think league average TS% is still around 55 to 56 but it was 58.1 this season. 59.3 is really good but it’s not “all time” good.
Granted playoffs ts is closer to that 56% more or less but still
Correspondingly, playoff TS used to be 52-54 a decade ago. Now it’s 56-57. TS% 59 just isn’t as uncommon as it used to be.
Then why not say that in the original comment
The point was that average TS is about 3 pts higher than it was a decade ago, and if OP thought Brunson’s TS% was 6 or 5 points above average, it’s actually closer to 2.5 points above average which is good but not close to being all time.
Even if Brunson’s TS% was 6 or 5 points above average, compare to Curry’s ‘17 run where his TS was 10 points above average. That’s what an actual all time run looks like.
Im just asking you why you used regular season true shooting to compare to the 59% he’s shooting in the playoffs, it felt like a bad comparison
I was just too lazy to look up the playoff TS but knew the difference between a decade ago and now was about the same for reg season and playoffs.
Brunson is currently 20th all time in playoff PPG at 25.8ppg and that number is pulled down a lot by his time in Dallas. If his Knick career was his full career he would currently be 4th all time in playoff PPG. He is legitimately an all time great playoff performer.
You’re comparing his best 4 year stretch to other players whose stats were diluted by including their entire careers. And is that even what this post was supposed to be about? I thought OP was just talking about this playoffs.
other stars arent nearly as diluted because they werent relegated to 20 mpg for the first 4 years of their career. Its obviously an anomaly, but he is performing with the best of the best in the playoffs
They’re diluted by post-prime years
13 of the top 20 “all time” players are active. In addition to waiting for players to have declines that drag their averages down, there also needs to be a major adjustment for era.
Remember when the Dallas Mavericks declined a 4 year 55m extension for Jalen Brunson and then let him walk for 25m/year?
I mean they went to the finals without him with Luka
He needed his own team, him and Luka would never fit together, both ball dominant
Luka and Kyrie made it work and Kyrie is also ball dominant.
Maybe, but you don’t let him go for nothing
Damn these “all time” playoff numbers are a whole 4 PPG better, 3 RPG worse, and the same assist and TS% numbers as 41 year old LeBron’s playoff numbers
So are you saying that a 41 year old grandpa is almost equal to prime Jalen Brunson
The 2nd best player of all time.
Good comparison
He’s having a great run but you usually need a list to back up something being all time
All time? Come on…
He’s fantastic but how is that an “all time” statline exactly?
It basically matches LeBron points and assists per game in the playoffs. Similar numbers to Jerry west.
Matching a great player’s averages does not make an all time playoff run. Go back and look at the numbers those guys put up during their best playoff runs.
These are great numbers but this is not an all time run.
King of New York
Pretty good for a dollar store Fred Van Vleet
This is a good run but these aren’t all-time numbers by any means lol
This is pretty standard first option production, which is great don’t get me wrong
If only he was taller so he could be a superstar…
No hate, this is good! But not great
Ethical basketball
Yeah that flop too
THE PEOPLE’S MVP
Better than luka
I think he has the far superior supporting cast than anyone else in the league.
Everybody wants to call him a foul baiter too. Not seeing these 15 foul shots everyone talks about
Brunson js showing every doubter how good he actually is. Dude is a brilliant player. His game will age better than most guards who rely on speed and explosion. I think we’ll see him for a while still. Love to see it for the Knick’s.
Becky Hammon in shambles
This guys been gaslighting ppl into thinking these numbers are historic for awhile https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/s/TPIDU1yXRH
That TS% isn’t really that crazy tho
He’s so mean
Why doesn’t he just let James Harden and the Cavs win🥺
Lol yep guy who is trying to make his 1st Finals appearance is having yet ANOTHER all-time playoff run
how else would you personally describe 29.4/3/6.8 in the playoffs over 4 years with back to back conference finals and the third conference finals of his career?
I mean it’s really good but it’s not all time good. I guess it depends on what you consider all time but I there’s a lot of just active guys that have had a better 4 year playoff strech than Brunson.
I don’t think that’s true
Scroll down to the list I pay and tell me who you disagree with.
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He’s really good at scoring the ball. He’s also bad at defense (Gianni’s, Tatum etc clear here)and not as good of a playmaker as Luka, LeBron, Jokic etc.
But if you’re trying to argue Brunson is a better playoff player than Shaq or Kobe because he’s score 38 points more times we have nothing to discuss… We view basketball completely dofferent.
Edit: added defensive name
name them. not only that have scored and playmaked at a similar level but having brought their teams deep into the playoffs (back to back conference finals in the playoffs) with those stats.
Luka. LeBron. Steph. Tatum. SGA. Jokic. KD. Giannis. Kawhi.
Take any of those guys best 4 years and put them against Brunson and I think they’re all coming out on top. Some lack a little bit of the playmaking but make up for it defensively.
Literally anyone who has won a ring.
Oshae Brissett and Svi Mykhailuk have rings
Lol as 4 years of not winning a championship.
Be serious, Brunson is putting up numbers but every ‘all-time playoff run’ ends in a ring.
Shoutout to Dyson for those first couple of games
Very solid, but I think either OKC or Spurs will expose his size disadvantages with theirs unlimited supply of quality guards
he’s averaging 34 ppg in his last 4 vs the spurs and 28 in his last 7 vs OKC
Those are almost prime Melo numbers
“melo” and “7.6 assists per game”
Melo is not even the 4th of the player that Playoff Brunson is.
Why put down another Knick to boost Brunson?
Is just facts, playoffs record: 7-14
Rest of his career with the Knicks he was just interested in getting his all-star nod and call it a day while getting all the money he could so the team had no way to get talent.
Imagine prime Melo with James Harden guarding him 🤣
I think Melo could score 50 buckets straight if he got ISO’s against a 36 year old Harden
He’s putting up Melo numbers on better efficiency and much better playmaking.
And they have the same number of rings!
All-time greatness!!
IK you’re joking, but Jalen Brunson has been to more conference finals with the Knicks than Melo won playoff series with them.
And Melo has won more gold medals than games Brunson has played for the US Olympic team.
All-time!!
Melo couldn’t sniff Brunsons jockstrap. He was a great, but wildly selfish player.
doesnt matter hes still gonna get swept by Okc/spurs next round. hes feasting on easy ass east competition.
Edit: I see idiots don’t realize im being sarcastic lol