Reggie Miller: “I guarantee you, between all the clenching Hartenstein has done versus Wemby, and now that. The league is gonna take a long look”
No they won’t.
Right? Take a look and do what?
They’ll adjust for G3 and forget about it G4 USUALLY that’s what happens lol
Yep there’s no way this series doesn’t go 7 games. Adam silver is going to make sure of that. I’d be very surprised if OKC doesn’t steal back the home advantage in the away trip.
Adam Silver is what’s wrong with this NBA.
I’m convinced he’s a reptilian
Why are we cool with the blatant rigging of games to extend series or get certain teams into premier matchup’s? I mean it is great basketball but theres a large non-negligible element of the modern nba thats completely artificial
Bro the world is currently controlled by a small group of murderous pedophiles. We can’t even get ourselves to do anything about THAT.
Holy fuck we’re having CONVERSATIONS LFG!
He saw the ratings for game 1 and he knew for sure he’s going to have to make this game go full 7 to milk the damn thing lmao
A 48 minute look after closing their eyes, only to once again close their eyes
They might throw a retroactive flagrant 1 at Hart. The equivalent of a wet fart of a punishment
I don’t understand this analogy. Are you asking for explosive diarrhea?
I think he means just the part before the explosion
I kinda read it the other way, like it’s so non harmful it’s the opposite of explosive diarrhea, it’s just a wet fart
Get rid of brothers. Not trying to be ageist, but I genuinely think his eye sight is starting to go. It happens at that age with elderly people. Some of his calls in the past month have been weird. Completely throwing off momentum in games.
It’s not just his eyesight. He got into a verbal thing with Finch in Game 3 of the semis that threatened to look physical. He ain’t Foster just yet, but it is getting really weird.
It’s his last season I read somewhere
they’ll investigate themselves and find nothing wrong. then send a sternly written letter to OKC
Actually, I think these days it’s a Silverly worded letter.
and give them two free throws.
Write a vague apology letter and say they’re going to lose sleep over it
i guess they can tell Stephon Castle to cut his hair
I’m really confused what the league wants. From a pure money standpoint wemby looks like a star in the making why let hartenstein possibly injure him. Why not just let the teams play basketball..
The league has no problem with the Spurs making the Finals but they do not want them to curb stomp OKC in 4 or 5 games.
They’ll take a look the other way.
They even gonna suspend Reggie Miller for this and take him out of NBA history.
League wants 7 games. This is effectively the finals. Would not be shocked if they call everything next game
I agree they won’t look into it, but the Spurs should send a tape anyway. And leak it out to media 5 hours before game 3 to get the spurs fans in a lather. I am not a Spurs fan but I will be at game 3 cheering for the Spurs. It should be crazy.
There will be changes for next year. Wild wild west the rest of this post-season.
Correct. This is exactly what they want
They will take a look, but won’t do anything about it
someone needs to make a bot and just spam @nba on all their socials until someone takes notice…..
Spoiler: The league won’t.
league approved it as soon as Brothers was assigned
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Using offball harassment on centers is nothing new(see every Jokic game ever, Shaq in 04, etc)
It’s like how the NBA doesn’t care about moving screens and carries, travels lol
I watched Ja morants entire career. There’s no such thing as a carry in the modern NBA
The OP quote is specifically referencing the hair pull tho (“and now that”)
I mean, I doubt the league will care about that either, but it’s on a higher level than the stuff on Wemby
How about stepping on Wemby foot, that shit going to injure someone.
“Tune in for the ultimate competition, will the Spurs win the series before Wemby tears his rotator cuff”
And how stepping on foot or pushing with the offhand isn’t considered an offensive foul because the audience often reacts positively to it as an “ankle breaker”.
Still waiting for Balmer’s punishment
Might be waiting awhlle then. The league mailed the punishment (2 year suspension, 1 billion fine, Kawhis contract voided) to ‘Steve Balmer’ but it was returned undeliverable.
Adam Silver - “after hearing some criticism from the fans on officiating, we will be introducing a tournament after all star weekend.”
They might as wemby is the future
Maybe [CLE] LeBron James can get them to look at it again?
It’s hard to take any statement from Reggie seriously there’s too many time he just be sayin shit.
Everything Reggie says sounds like he’s a super fan of whoever he’s talking about… maybe it’s just his tone or enthusiasm but he’s almost incapable of an unbiased statement lmao
I honest to God just think he loves the sport and the NBA. Great players and great teams genuinely excite him and he loves celebrating them with all the superlatives.
He’s very reminiscent of Chris Colinsworth in the NFL—an analyst who is similarly extremely complimentary of the best teams and best players, and an analyst who everyone swears hates their team specifically. It’s easy to be cynical, especially on Reddit, and it’s very easy to just insult their intelligences because “hurr athlete dumb”, but I just believe Reggie gets hyped watching the sport and its best guys/teams play. And that causes him to overstate everything.
that’s exactly it. game threads are always full of ppl saying he’s glazing whichever team they don’t want to win, when all he does is get excited over exciting basketball plays. he’s a bit goofy but he’s just a dan of the game, don’t know how you can get mad at that
people just watch to agenda push rather than enjoy the game
Yeah I love Reggie. Especially when I started as an NBA casual fan, it was so refreshing to have a commentator with his level of enthusiasm compared to what felt like an active disdain for the sport from other guys. (Looking at you, Mark Jackson). I don’t agree with everything Reggie says, but I love his approach to broadcasting and no one will make me hate the guy for being corny or over the top.
I saw multiple people accuse Reggie of homerism against their rooting interest. Some folks thought he was biased towards OKC, a ton of the people I was watching with thought he sounded like a Spurs broadcast.
I think he’s actually in love with both Caruso and Wemby, tho. If either of those guys made a play he was just absolutely ecstatic
That’s how I feel as well… like I can’t decide if he loves okc or the spurs, it just depends on what he’s saying at that exact moment
He’s pretty contrarian and loves driving narratives, it’s such an annoying way to be
Reggie is annoying for sure.
Dude just loves basketball
reggie miller has been so bad i can’t stand it
I think he’s gotten worse with NBC. He had improved.
I think it was just because the other option was Doris…
Nah, he was really bad with TNT and then the last few years over there actually started improving. Now it’s like he’s taken a few steps back.
Probably because Tirico is pretty bad on bringing his partner back in. Reggie worked with Harlan who I think is the best shame he is stuck with Wade.
You’re right. He works in a two-man with Harlan well. They built chemistry for years.
Reggie in a three-man with tirico and crawford is rough. None of them seem good.
Dude spends half the game talking about himself and old games he played in instead of what’s happening on the court. Fuck man. “That dunk reminds me of a game I was on vs the new Hampshire colonels in nineteen dickety two. Look it up sometime youngins.”
She had an onion tied to her belt, as was the style at the time
I’ll be deep in the cold cold ground before I recognize Missouri!
Crawford has more insightful commentary, but you can tell he’s taking a backseat because Reg won’t STFU.
Jamal has not been good either imo. Has some incredibly awkward transitions and timing.
Kept randomly referencing r&b songs tonight too, which must just be bewildering for Tirico (and the audience).
The entire nbc lineup, besides Tirico, Noah Eagle and Grant Hill are pretty brutal to listen to, particularly Reggie and the studio foursome.
Crawford was doing a great job at MSG networks now he has to play second fiddle to someone who shouldn’t be announcing at all in Reggie.
We got Doris in the finals last year and I’m certain Reggie gonna get the finals this year. Despair
Doris did have the balls to call SGA a free throw merchant on air last finals so she gets a pass from me.
She meant it as a compliment.
Finals is abc/espn so it’s Breen, RJ, Legler
ABC has the finals so it’ll probably be Breen and Co after they get done with the ECF
There’s nothing to look at. You could show these same close ups in every nba game ever played
They’re not showing it on the other end either
i feel like he’s paid per word honestly just speaking to speak at some point
Patiently waiting for someone to claim racism so I can tell them Hartenstein is black lol
he bright skinned
Lol it’s so funny… he’s mixed. Some people just wanna label people as black or white. The one drop rule is the worst version of that.
Look at Obama, people call him the first black President when he’s just as white as he is black. He’s really the first mixed President
Black is as much a culture thing as it is a genetic thing. Theres only a very small amount of African Americans with no European genes, someone being half white half black doesnt stop them from being black if they grew up influenced by that culture. IHart is like one quarter African american. So yeah mixed is more accurate but he also lived in Europe for his formative years and doesnt have much connection to African American, or even just American, culture outside of basketball. So most people would consider him white, which makes sense.
And Obama is considered the first black president because of his identity outside of his genetics. The way he talks, the culture he references, etc. Technically he isnt even African American, his dad was a first generation Kenyan immigrant who abandoned him
We gotta stop calling black people who arent from Africa or America “African American”
Bet he won’t say it tho.
The true test
Already happened in another thread lol
Wait really?
Hes white, but his father is biracial so he’s part black.
Whoa I just googled his parents and the person who appears to be his sister looks much more Black than he does.
Yep lmaooo
Google his parents
Google my parents, Chuck
If I had a drink in my mouth I would’ve spit it out.lol
Racism
They will look, and Silver will give a good smile and look back at the ratings.
I mean, following that argument, it’s unlikely that silver is happy if he’s looking at it. He will have noticed the sharp decline in viewership and ratings from game 1, as well as the general public outrage.
Not saying thats what is going to happen. But the ratings after game 1 aren’t going to make anyone smile.
What sharp decline? Do you have data?
They won’t
They’ll watch the video the Spurs send them. OKC probably sends in a video of Wemby holding arms too
League gonna do whatever it takes for 7 games
Exactly. Couldn’t let the Spurs go up 2-0. They just had their highest game 1 rating ever.
Oh, yes. I’d know.
Scott foster in the gym right now
Peeps
1-1?
We good.
LeBron? It’s ok.
Ben Simmons is here.
We’re good.
Reggie the same dude praising Wemby for elbowing Reid in the throat..
Feel like I’m taking crazy pills with the 180 that’s been done. Flagrants are only cool when the 7 footer does it I guess. Apparently Wemby should just do whatever he wants and no one should ever respond. We should all just stand on the sidelines and clap as he goes up uncontested for 100 dunks a game. Refs favor Wemby = good. Refs don’t favor Wemby = bad. Spurs still have a positive FT differential this series, not to mention their absurd differential for the playoffs. Yet I have to listen to them bitch about “we have to beat OKC and the refs”. Meanwhile they averaged 14 more FTA per game against my team. Acting like they’re the small market team when they’ve already had TD and Kawhi.
Still see Spurs fans defending elbow and saying Wemby was defending himself as if big men aren’t constantly beat up on in the NBA.
That argument also just sucks cuz he didn’t hit the guy hard fouling him. He hit our sweet dearly beloved Naz Reid.
If anything, didn’t tonight just reinforce their position? Dude is literally getting attacked on every play, and the officials just do not care. All big men take some punishment, but we aren’t at a point where we can pretend it’s equal anymore, unless you’re a hardcore OKC partisan.
Wemby is getting attacked every play and he is attacking every play. He hooks arms, holds down low, all the little tricks bigs do to grab boards. They all do it until the refs call it. Then the game gets real choppy and not as fun to watch when the rules are enforced. So it’s one of the harder aspects of the game to officiate
getting downvoted in the other thread for saying this, but the difference in reaction to both these is wild
I mean the major difference is that one player lashed out in anger and was rightfully ejected from the game. The other, which is less deliberate than the elbow, but is at minimum a flagrant 1 gets a no call.
If SGA threw an elbow like that and didn’t get a suspension this sub would have a meltdown. The top 10 comments on the Wemby thread were jokes
If my grandma had wheels she would be a bike.
I get the argument that Wemby probably should have had a game suspension for the elbow, I just don’t agree with it for a first time offender. I think the ejection was enough and you escalate on any repeat offences. I would say though that this penalty, while not as deliberate, is just as dangerous as the elbow, if not ever so slightly more given the amount of neck movement. So if I was applying the same standard I would say that given the context of the more nebulous intent this should have been a Flagrant 1, with discussion of an ejection.
The DIFFERENCE is that one was a called foul and the other is uncalled. That’s why the discussion is different, because it plays on the perceived biases that everyone has on how these teams are officiated.
I think stars get no suspension and role players get a suspension in that scenario. Less to do with first time offender IMO
Or stop living in would land and look at what’s actually happening. Spurs getting mauled all game with no calls and you’re focusing on one lash out that was rightfully punished. What did you want? For them to execute Wemby on the spot?
Bro this sub won’t even let the headbutt from game 1 stay up.
Well I can’t speak to everything you said, but of course the Spurs win the free throw battle. They have the dpoy discouraging people from driving into the paint on defense and people being physical with him when he’s on offense bc that is their best chance.
Timberwolves have two guards who primarily drive, a forward who plays bully ball (granted with dubious handles), and a 7 foot center. I’m not saying the Spurs didn’t get fouled more than the Timberwolves, but I am saying the disparity shouldn’t have been what it was. Refs just let Wemby break the rules because it was fun. Goaltending, wrist and forearm are suddenly part of the ball, and the pinnacle a flagrant 2 with no further punishment. I could not find a single example in the history of the NBA where a player didn’t get a fine on a legitimate flagrant. League UPHELD the ruling and said “yeah but he’s cool so that’s enough punishment”.
I don’t want to hear complaints about refs from a team that directly benefits from them. If you’re Steph Curry, sure you can complain about refs whenever you want. But there are teams who do the same exact thing the Spurs do against OKC, and they just don’t get the calls.
Preach
I don’t think we’re allowed to mention that anymore. Unless it’s to discuss his redemption and comeback.
He’s a donkey and a boring commentator voice.
petition
This might be the funniest fucking thing I’ve ever seen.
Ben Dover going to sign that thing 100 times.
Mike Hunt already signed
We’re 1 day away from Etsy witches being hired
I’m upvoting this because this is the most loser thing I have ever seen.
buddy have no mirror in his trailer
My voice can finally be heard haha now I just need to make a protest sign!
Don’t forget to write your representatives, too
Just signed and im sending this to Adam silver right now!
No they won’t this league is a joke
When are people going to realize this? The NBA has been “poorly reffed” for decades at this point. How long does something need to go on for before it stops being a problem and starts being intentional? That flip switched for me a long time ago. If they cared about solving this, they would have. Welcome to Adam Silver’s NBA. He’s ruined NBA basketball for the sake of “growing the game” aka money.
That dude did everything but play basketball. Crazy work
10 pts 13 rebounds no basketball found
Poeltl Stateline
Result: 4 fouls
They’ll have a game where they look harder at him and the Thunder know it so won’t lean into it nearly as much and then they’ll bring it back game 4
Props to Wemby and Mitch Johnson. No complaining and just battling through it. Mark Daigneault and the entire Thunders team would be crying to the refs all game.
Daigneault and the entire team literally *were* crying to the refs the entire game lol
What if it was Luka?
Also crying
They all cried after the jwill flop too
Alright Kelly Olynyk. You know what must be done. (Joking lol)
no they wont do anything.
see literally last years finals
And the “offensive foul” on Barnes when he was just standing there like WTF???
I’m waiting for the compilation to drop. Between this and all the holding, grabbing, and pushing on Wemby tonight, there is quite a lot of content. Shit was disgusting.
So disgusting. Now show the other end where they do the exact same thing. Then show another random game where the same shit happens. This sub hates basketball
They just want drama. Great games happening and all the wanna do is tantrum about the lack of foul calls. Fucking nerds.
Silver loves this shit.
I think there was a moment where there were 3 OKC players on the ground. Someone flopped on the pass, SGA flopped on his shot and someone flopped on the rebound. It’s a tough watch.
His confidence is entirely unfounded
While they’re taking a look, can they take a listen to how awful Reggie is?
I was so excited to not have Doris around anymore, and then Reggie was worse
The refs have literally taught OKC they’re allowed to play this way lmao
I think the NBA will decide what gets them to 7 games
After the league takes a look at all the blatant fouling by ihart.
“damn that’s crazy… anyway”
About as much as they looked at the elbow
They tossed Wemby for that. They just “game on”’d all 45 of Hartenstein’s fouls, including hair pulling.
He’s right.. Hartenstein was wild tonight.. the man pulled Castle’s locks
The ref was looking straight at the hair pull and didn’t call it… What else do they need to call a foul there?
lol. Reggie is just there to be a profession instigator.
Hartenstein practically held anyone who was near him on each play. Not even in a subtle way, but very obviously. He should have rightfully fouled out in the first 5 minutes. Don’t even get me started on the holding, swatting, and pushing by other OKC players. This has been brought to the attention of the league by so many teams that it is inexplicable. Do they realize how bad this is for the NBA? I don’t even usually watch OKC games because I’m sick of watching this. The only reason I’m watching them now is because it’s the playoffs.
This what this team does regularly represents why the NBA is unwatchable
They wont but they should
Lmao, they definitely won’t
Rigged product , unwatchable . Refs need to call the hair pulling.
This shut was a disgrace tonight.
Game three they’ll call two ones early and then let it go for the next two games lol
Ummm. No. They. Won’t.
COOL BUT THEY ALREADY WON
No they won’t. Because this is what the people wanted. PHYSICAL PLAYOFF BASKETBALL.
Bro got dunked on and obviously pissed off. Prime SHAQ, KG and others back then would’ve done worse. Bigs are too soft nowadays so newbie fans ain’t used to ts
They ain’t gonna do shit, just as usual. At this point I almost wish wemby throws another spinning elbow, maybe this time the officials will understand the message and start doing their job properly.
it has been multiple seasons of this, they’re still taking that long look. acting like it’s the first time they play like this against other teams’ best players
Takes a long look… calls a foul on Spurs
OKC fans been dangerously quiet. Even they know the only reason they can win this series is if they can play dirty and get away with fouling Wemby on every position. Imagine if someone on the spurs was fully holding Shai’s arm every single possession LOL
Yeah, Hartenstein is near unplayable when Wemby is on the court… unless he’s allowed to grab and hold Wemby to the point where he can’t contest shots lol. I rarely complain about the refs but that was a bit ridiculous
Will Castle shave his head for the next game?
What a dirty ass team
As long as the Clippers Aspiration investigation?
Where is a Bill Laimbeeer to counter Hartenstein if you need one..
Yeah, they’re gonna take a long look…with their eyes closed. I’d be more surprised if the league did anything meaningful here than if the fucking Cavs win the series.
We investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong.
The league will take a look if the spurs retaliate with the same actions so they can now call the spurs for fouls against okc. Flopping or not foul on the spurs maybe even a flagrant foul for good measures
Reggie Miller is the James Harden of Chris Collinsworths. Glazing okc like a homemade banana bread
Well they took a look with Curry and did nothing. I expect the same.
Side topic but this video shows something that’s been so confusing to me all playoffs. Why is it so hard for the spurs to get wemby the ball when he’s so close to the basket with a smaller guy on him. It’s baffling.
They gonna look and say nothing is out of the ordinary.
Mike “I’m not Black, nobody in my family is Black” Terico is unbelievable with that “was that a tangle or a pull?” Line.
Hair pulling should be an automatic one game suspension due to how badly you can harm someone’s neck when doing that.
They’ve had all season to take a long look. No change now.
It’s OKC, they won’t.
I think the league realized ref controversy gets the most clicks. Wemby Vs. refs will drive engagement
Same guy who said “violence is necessary” after the elbow and that Wemby was going to get HIS revenge. It’s almost like he has a Wemby boner or something
Nonsense. “clenching” ? the league is going to look at off ball grabbing and physicality? the wolves did the same exact thing - probably worse.
The narrative is ridiculously tired already. It was a great game. enjoy it. Dear lord.
They’ll take a long thorough look at Hartenstein and ultimately decide 2 shots for SGA at the line
Take a look at their bank accounts to make sure the thunder check cleared