[Lowlight] Upon replay, Jared McCain clearly grabs Stephon Castle’s wrist to win the tip
and they get a 3 pointer from it….
6 point swing because of this and the uncalled hair pull. THIS IS HOW THEY WIN GAMES. this is how they are coached
Happened vs pacers I remember it distinctly . It was momentum changing calls
Happened in the Nuggets Series, the Pacers series, take your pick. Both series would show these momentum changes non-calls. They would show an Alex Caruso steal and the replay would show that it was 100% wrist and it would lead to a fast break 2 for the thunder
Lol nuggets went to 7 games with Caruso just blatantly fouling Jokic every play and they called it good defence. Then in the replays / slow Mo the commentators would laugh and say “yeahhhhh he might have got away with one there” - this happened like 6 separate times lmao
The famous one is Cason Wallace holding the dribblers hand in front of the ref
Game 7 on TJ Mcconnell.
That game 7 wouldnt have even happened if the refs just called game 4 properly.
If they called game 4 properly Pacers win in 6 and Hali never gets injured.
That karma is building up and will come back around
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-world_fallacy
Yeah no way the spurs were turning the ball over every other play tonight without getting held or no ball contact to loosen the ball. Like shit spurs guards can be sloppy with turnover but every other play?
I knew there would be some ref bullshit in this game after Wemby put up those numbers in G1. Joker also dropped a 40⁄20 piece in G1 of the Nuggets series and they got Scott Fostered in G2. Can’t let OKC and the “MVP” go down 0-2 lol
Happened in the SUNS and Lakers series’ too. It’s just a matter of how well the opposing team takes it in stride, or if they essentially give up because everything is utter bullshit. There were points we’d be up 10, some bull fuckery would happen. Uncalled fouls leading to a couple 3s, a foul that is called that ruins a fast break or takes away an and-1 or gets called “non shooting”, then ticky tack bullshit calls on the other end. Suddenly you’re down 10 and in your own head because it’s so frustrating and you’re now forcing or turning it over.
Shit it happened in the first 2 games of the lakers series too. Close game in the first half and the first couple minutes of the 3rd and then a barrage of bad calls and OKC 3s. I’m not saying we would’ve won those games but there was actual good basketball being played before that
Dort was allowed to shove Hali away from a loose ball with both hands with less than 2 minutes to go in game 4 when the pacers were down 1, blatantly in front of a ref too.
Fuck Scott foster forever
All my homies hate Scott Foster (and this Thunder team)
Everyone I know hates SGA except people who only like him for non-basketball reasons. Which is weird.
And can’t forget Shai pushing off then blatantly traveling to take a 1 point lead with 2 minutes left, same game. Foster was staring right at him the whole time.
He throat chopped Hali after a jump shot too IIRC.
What possible shooting motion does that naturally? Guy is just dirty as shit, but gets away with it because “dEfENCe”.
Oh yeah, I forgot about the throat chop. I feel like Dort has cooled off since the Jokic thing but last season he was fucking out of control.
Yep game 5. Pacers were within 5. They get a foul on TJ McConnell on the jump that gave SGA free throws
First and only time I’ve ever seen a foul called like that on a jump ball. Embarrassing display
This is what the weirdo OKC fans don’t get; there’s inconsistently bad officiating across the league, of course, BUT… OKC feels like they consistently get the most momentum changing calls (or non-calls).
I also said feels, not that they are, and I think it’s exacerbated by the fact that they don’t need the help. They don’t need to flop or play dirty. They’re a great team.
You don’t gotta sugar coat it. It’s not “feels”. It’s facts. When fans of EVERY team in the NBA besides OKC can see it, it’s just the truth. There was a whole lot of bullshit in favor of OKC when they played against the Suns in the first round too.
And pelicans. Dort grabbed 6’11” Yves Missi’s wrist to win a jump ball. Definitely coached to play like this
Like in the finals last year when Dort shoved Haliburton out of bounds, steals the ball with no call, then they get a foul called on the pacers on the fast break lol
Don’t forget the 3 they took off the board when Barnes fouled someone while looking the other way!
the only way to fight greasiness of this caliber is by being equally or more greasy. spurs need to get in the mud and beat them at their own game. dirty ass thunder.
How can Spurs go in the mud if just looking at any OKC player is a foul according to the refs.
Simple. Make the fouls count. Just destroy SGA every time he gets near the rim until he’s more afraid to drive to the basket than Ben Simmons. If it’s going to get called anyway, make it count. And if it results in a flagrant 2 for a non-essential player, who cares.
I swear put plumblee and let him hit everyone
Spurs got that guy who dislocates shoulders.
I’m sure the Spurs can sacrifice at least 2 of their backup centers
Yep, this is the reality the league’s creating. If OKC wins another ring doing this shit teams are going to start having enforcers and SGA is going to get seriously injured and OKC and the refs will have no one to blame but themselves.
World’s smallest violin will be on deck
Why would you not coach it if you get free 6 point swings and the refs will never foul out an OKC player. Sometimes Caruso and Dort get in foul trouble but that’s as far as it ever goes.
What a pathetic team. Good, yes, but fucking pathetic.
Don’t forget Isaiah Joe’s flop against Harrison Barnes that erased a champagnie 3.
Also off the hair pull rebound
also Castle NOT over and back on slowmo
Absolutely ridiculous. Ref even posed and looked closely thinking it was about to happen and could not have had a better look and blows the call
I noticed it also, I thought I saw that.
This replay shows Castle grabbing his arm with his off hand first. It’s a jump ball. This shit happens. Yall got some insane hate tinted goggles on in this thread.
Ethical basketball for the win
They are going to get this series to 7 games by any means necessary
I get why people said this was the real NBA finals compared to the East, I get how incredible the level of talent is, Game 1 was one of the greatest games I’ve ever seen, but I can’t watch the crap on my TV and say with my whole chest that what went on in the West tonight is a superior basketball product.
Game one was awesome and then the refs started back up for game two because silver cares more about extending the series and his little OKC pet project than he does good basketball
Game 1 was fairly reffed. Game 2 was extremely Thunder biased.
I mean once the whole Tim Donaghy thing turned into gambling sponsorships, and an “entertainment” clip product - it’s basically WWF (Wrestling With Fouls)
exactly
Not likely, with the spurs averaging +20 turnovers a game.
Spurs win tonight with fair reffing even with 21 turnovers
Like they literally did 2 nights ago
Or Harper not getting hurt or Fox playing.
The Spurs would have won with 20+ turnovers if not for these dumbass refs.
Spurs would’ve won that without egregious ref issues, even with their turnover issues lol
Hartenfucks shouldve fouled out in the second. Im salty as fuck about that. Mostly because the hair pull just set me off.
These refs lmao
It’s legit every. single. play. on BOTH sides of the court
It just gets laughable at some point
This OKC team does anything but play real basketball. There’s 29 other teams that could only dream of getting the game officiated the way they do.
If the Spurs don’t flop, they won’t win the series. If they do start flopping, then we just lose the big picture.
Wemby especially. They’re gonna grab him every play until they call it
28, the Lakers only don’t see these calls in games against OKC.
Even if you think we get a good whistle, I’d say it’s still fundamentally different because we aren’t being ultra aggressive and dirty and not getting called, at best we get some soft fouls called in our favor.
Knicks def have the eastern conference whistle
Lakers might get a good whistle but at least they’re just normal ball players. No culture of metagaming, playing dirty, fouling 24⁄7. Just a bit lenient lol.
Hey they’re gonna bring up AR and Luka soon in response to that lmao.
Yeah but there’s floppers/embellishers all over the league. AR, Luka, SGA, Deni, etc. The issue with OKC is the legitimate flopping (foul on Barnes today), dirty plays, and getting that whistle (or lack of) while playing defence, then playing like absolute pussy bitches on O.
This is unwatchable
It’s a horrible product. This OKC team truly is a stain on basketball.
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Been saying it since last year in the finals. This is just a shit product. Anyone who is actually paying attention knows its a new low for the NBA. It’s unwatchable
Refs just letting it all go.
Nope, they are calling egregious flops by Isiah Joe
Tony Brothers and his crew are straight garbage
Tony Brothers just invented an over and back on Castle that didn’t happen. They showed a replay and didn’t talk about how obviously the foot wasn’t over the line and he was looking right at it.
ball can’t go back over either, replay showed the ball was very close to bouncing on the line (which would be over an back, I don’t think it was quite on the line, but it was damn close, and pat of it is that the replay angle can’t quite tell, but that was not a terrible call.
it didn’t bounce on the line
And Tony was looking directly at it
Garbage Fkin team pray Popovich unleashes Bruce Bowen blueprint
They’ll keep doing it because they know they can get away with it. Even if the ref calls one, they sure as hell won’t call all so might as well go ram
This is just flat out wrong, they could call every foul if they wanted. Its the only way to stop this style of play.
Not only they could but they SHOULD call out every foul. It’s absurd that any team can blatantly get away with shit like this
Adam silver needs a game 7
5 vs 8
Its so obvious this game vs the previous game
Zach Zarba is one of the better, less controversial lead refs. Tony Brothers is Tony Brothers
Currently the lead ref is having more of an impact of the NBA’s watchability than the teams playing.
We need serious consequences and rule changes for reffing like this
Zarba has two modes extremely tight game or extremely loose game, but he stays consistent for the most part.
Tony Brothers gets to do whatever he wants like every other shit ref from the Donaghy era because he knows where the bodies are buried.
This has been a pretty consistent no call recently. I’m surprised teams don’t do it more often
First hair pulling, now this?
What do you mean “first”? More like 27th. Game is rigged.
the most funny thing is that basically its the whole OKC squad playing dirty, not just 1 or 2 players LMAO
It’s all of OKC. People get carried away focusing on Shai foul baiting, but that’s not even that big of a deal, it’s the bullshit they all do collectively that makes them the worst. It’s so consistent that I literally think they are coached to do this
Of course they are. It’s actually on the refs and the league to stop this because any other team would play this way if they got away with it.
People are understandly upset with OKC but this is 100% on the NBA.
Agree with you 100%. This is just the “moneyball moment” of the NBA. One team has realized they have a significant advantage by playing foul heavy defense and flop heavy ball and it’s stupid to expect them to stop doing it.
If other teams go this same route successfully we might actually have a prayer of reform.
They’re coached to flop around, jump into defenders on bad shots, and hook and hold wemby. Even when they’re not defended they flail their heads back on bad layups. Hartenstein never did this shit on the Knicks, he’s dead to me now.
They openly brag about it as a ‘strategy’ when it’s just the evolved, coked-out version of what people hate about James Harden.
The smartest thing for other players to do is copy it which just leads to an abysmal, embarrassing product.
If OKC can make McCain hateable they can do ANYTHING
Is that not Castle’s left hand holding onto McCains bicep as they begin to jump? Both look like fouls.
If these morons think they are going to call a foul for hands hitting each other on a jump ball they really should quit watching.
As someone who hates watching the thunder, the fact that this is getting public outcry is silly.
Like, he goes up for the ball, misses it, and naturally follows through and barely hits Castles’ wrist. That’s almost never called a foul, and if it were SGA instead of Castle people would have lost their fucking minds.
I’m getting kind of tired of every. Single. Foul. Committed by the Thunder that isn’t called by the refs is plastered all over the internet as proof that the NBA is rigged and WWE 2.0. Half of which are as mild as mayonnaise. Like it’s to a point I’m close to rooting for the Thunder lol. I’ve never seen so much one sided blind hate for one team in any sport, where everyone’s pretending the brush of a finger is cold blooded murder
Yeah I get that OKC might get away with shit but goddam all the whining and crying is getting old.
All the compilations ppl are posting are one sided against OKC when the Spurs are being very physical too.
And I don’t even like OKC. I knew this series was going to be toxic like this on here but it’s just annoying how one sided all the hate has been. It’s just excessive. Never seen anything like it before.
No, you see the Spurs lost because of some pulled hair and a botched jump ball. Not because Castle kept turning the ball over and Wemby hung out on the perimeter too much. NBA fans are such a fucking joke. They only think the officiating is fair when the team playing OKC has 10 more FTs in the game and they lose.
I can’t believe it took me this long to find a reasonable comment thread in this post holy shit
I’m avoiding this sub during this entire series. It looks like every single post is about the refs lol. This place is unbearable.
You’re correct.
There’s another replay where you can see Castle clearly grabs McCain’s bicep first so you’re absolutely right. Ayton did this to Sengun 3 times in one game and somehow the refs didn’t catch it once. IMO the tip off is hard to even toss the ball fairly much less officiate fairly, so NBA should just switch to the possession arrow.
Don’t you dare bring logic into this conversation
Do people actually think McCain did this on purpose?
Yeah this one isn’t it lol
They’re blinded from all logic due to hate. Also they’ve never played basketball
Well yeah, the video doesn’t actually pause, you see McCain literally froze in mid-air and grabbed castles arm for 2 seconds!
That is the logic of this sub lol. Whole thread is conveniently ignoring Castle grabbing McCain’s bicep on the way up too!
No they just hate the Thunder and will do anything to further their narrative and solidify their confirmation bias.
So I guess nobody cares that Castle initially grabbed McCain arm first.
Crickets lol
Ok. You must all be bots or be 12.
For those of you that are real humans you realize this is both super slo mo and its clearly the top of his apex and he’s going for the tip and misses short.
If you want to say the refs missed a call sure whatever. Crying that this is dirty is fucking insane.
I feel like I’m losing my mind, I don’t understand how there’s this many people here who don’t understand how basketball works.
Yeah.
Like I said to the other guy. Bots, kids, or people who have gotten way too deep down a narrative rabbit hole.
Not sure why/how but its bad. This sub isnt helping. Most the highlights are pretty slanted too with titles that clearly slant anti okc which is another weird thing that needs to stop if we’re going to have interesting discourse
I’m anti-OKC so I don’t even mind the bashing lol but this video and the comments are straight up propaganda. I don’t think this is even a missed call, it’s just a normal jump ball
Hey man.
I have no team, dont live in a state with a team. Ant is literally my current favorite player. He’s the fucking man.
Don’t hate OKC or the Spurs in the slightest. Just like watching and talking ball.
This shit is getting bananas. People are posting slo mo videos of normal fouls in a regular season context except its the WCF and acting like a murder has taken place.
It’s actually a problem.
THANK YOU!I thought I was losing my fucking mind, what the hell are these people actually talking about
No clue dog.
It’s either that this OKC hate has jumped the shark and people are getting confused/overly zealous with the hate for one reason or another.
Or its Hella bots.
Everything is a foul when you watch it in slow mo. Every good team in every sport ever gets favorable whistles and every other team cries about it. I’ve been on both sides. Some people need to just grow up
As a neutral international viewer this is ridiculous. I thought this kind of stuff only happened on football.
Nah the hair pulling is a straight red. NBA is closer to WWE than champions league
The thing with football is that the fields are so big, it’s actually impossible to see every play clearly. Hence, the existence of VAR.
The NBA have 3 refs in a tiny confined space watching every angle possible as the camera recorded all 3 of them staring at the hairpull. Every time they showed a replay, you can clearly see hands being held, bodies being dragged. But hey, if the refs don’t call it, then you can’t even challenge. Neat rule!
castles hand literally on jared’s right arm too lol
They abandoned all logic when it comes to okc
Castle held McCain’s arm down on the jump. You can see it at the start of the replay at the very bottom.
He has been little too aggressive and hang checking whole game lol
Hand checking, body checking. He was so aggressive. I didn’t mind it but damn why do people only see it when the Thunder do it?
THIS TEAM IS SO PATHETIC OMG
Much appreciated for including the part where Castle’s pulling McCain’s arm down as well lol
Theres an uncalled foul every single play, after how great game 1 was this is making my fucking eyes bleed
fish rots from the head bro, mark daigneault clearly teaches these players to be punk ass bitches
Some of these guys have only been on OKC and some are just dirty as is (Dort), but guys like iHart and McCain were never dirty or played like a punk in NY and Philly, respectively.
Castle grabbing his arm first - Reddit approved. Jared hitting his wrist second - Reddit hate.
More and more I question why do I use this website? It’s like 90% full of the dumbest people on the planet
Thunder get away with grabs all game lol only thing worse is watching all the thunder players tumble to the floor all day like bowling pins.
Tbf castle grabbed his arm first on the way up
you are right, but no one cares apparently
Wait till you see the back court when Stephon didn’t even touch the line. The fix is in for the flopper
There’s no way you’re serious. Are you even watching the game?
The ball touched the line, y’all are genuinely stupid. 🤦♂️
dribble can’t go back either, ball was very close to being dribbled on the line which is a turnover, so not actually a bad call.
Is this shit actually rigged?
WWE levels of chicanery
Refs hacked the game
Reddit NBA subs are hilarious 😂😂😂
It’s apparent 99% of commenters have never themselves participated in a jump ball lmao. Not sure why I’m surprised, dead internet and all
Man yal reaching reaching atp
This sub is the biggest bunch of babies
Honestly. Apparently we’ve decided that people having their wrists slightly caressed during a jump ball is a foul now
Is every post on here just crying?
Jesus real people are upset about this?
it’s just hilarious at this point
Castle grabs McCain’s arm at the bottom of the view here as they’re going up, it’s clear as day, watch it again. It created much more of an advantage than what McCain did, but absolutely nothing that the Spurs may have gotten away with tonight will even be posted on this sub, let alone reach the top.
Ayton actually did this on every jump ball. There was a video about how OKC caught on and switched up their positioning and Lakers immediately realized it.
Bruh it’s a jump ball this happens all the time
We just gonna ignore Castle grabbing McCain’s arm as they go up?
Never seen so much crying lol
He didn’t do this intentionally. He’s going for the ball on the tip. You all are unbearable.
If you watched a jump ball in slomo you’d see this happen 50% of the time. The ball is in the middle and both of the players are going for it. Of course someone is gonna hit someone else’s wrist or hand if they get to the same point swcond.
Stfu dumbass the league is CLEARLY rigged you can tell from this random jump ball slow mo. THIS IS GETTING RIDICULOUS BROOO
Ur all hilarious
y tu McCain?
man this sub is insufferable
I don’t believe I’ve ever seen anything called on that kind of play on the jump ball. I’ve only seen fouls with the off hand.
And ironically castles off arm is holding McCains arm at the beginning, you can barely see it at the bottom
This sub really hates okc. There are also some fouls committed by the spurs and was not called 😂
What’s the point of refs honestly
Thread full of whiny losers lmao
Absolut morons, castle fouled first
This is a pretty normal tip tbh
Who was holding down McCain too with his left arm? Is that a random guy? Or maybe it’s Castle? When it’s against the OKC all of a sudden everyone becomes NBA officials smh. This narrative is sooo overused and toxic
Whose hand is on Mccains bicep?
They called this one of those “little hustle plays” 😆
The salt is glorious lol
I’m all for okc slander but this is a stretch
Illegal contact on a jump ball!! You babies clearly never played.
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Looks like more of a slap than a grab. Foul either way but hardly unusual that they didn’t call it. The refs weren’t calling Ayton’s jumpball antics for how long?
He was going for the ball it might still be a foul but he didn’t grab his wrist, he just didn’t jump as high
Winning culture 💯💯
In game 1 I really liked how I didn’t think about the refs. They’ve been fucking horrible this game.
Yall are so desperate to hate
Shadddup
Hey got out-jumped, the refs have NEVER called a foul on that, go back and look at the Lakers doing it on every jump ball.
Ya’ll are ridiculous.
Incidental.
OKC win
I didn’t realize how many 🤡 fans there were for teams in the league.
Oh my god yall are we really going to hyper analyze ever frame of every play. It’s basketball ffs, shit like this is always happening
Someone studied Deandre Ayton. That’s good tape watching
Castle clearly grabs McCains arm on the way up and McCain was trying to tip the ball. He’s 4 inches shorter than Castle. So he hit his wrist going for a jump ball?
The fucking Spurs cock gobbling lot of you on this sub is pathetic.
Castle grabbed McCains arm first. I love all the hate the Thunder get now becuz they are relevant 3 years ago everybody loved them and said they were up and coming and now here we are.