[Highlight] Compilation of Isaiah Hartenstein grabbing, holding, and grappling with Victor Wembanyama
Did it twice after this too
He’ll just do it every time until they start calling it. I mean why wouldn’t you.
I have no idea why the refs aren’t calling it. Hartenstein is essentially disposable in this game. His only job should be to exhaust and annoy Wemby. Do it for 6 fouls and just hope that’s enough to hinder him.
Amazing the OKC fans have the balls to chant “ref you suck” when this is going on with no calls.
Maybe Chet can step on his foot again and break his ankle this time.
I heard the same shit…the fuck is wrong with their fans? They get the golden whistle and still aren’t happy?
Have you ever been to Oklahoma? If so that’d answer your question
Born and raised in OKC. Can confirm. One of the biggest reasons I never adopted the Thunder as my team was being surrounded by the insufferable fanbase.
It’s not really the objective of stadium fans to be impartial lol. Cheer when it goes your way and jeer when it doesn’t
I hate it when people make that kind of comment lmao. I would be weirded out if the okc crowd WASN’T crying ref you suck. It’s their tribe!
If I’m a thunder fan I don’t care if hartenstein picks up Castle and suplexes him into the floor I’m still crying ref you suck when they call the foul on him. (Hyperbole but still)
Literally. I’m getting piss drunk in the nosebleeds and crying about every fair call that goes the other team’s way
Exactly, come on what are we doing here?
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Maybe the fans are telling the refs they suck because they’re missing all these foul calls agains Hartenstein? Because that would be true.
Ethical fandom
Your team’s fans chant stupid shit too. Every insult people say about a team they don’t like can 100% apply to every team in this league, but the spotlight moves
We have no idea why, either.
In fact, why isn’t the league going down hard on this? It’s every game this is happening. You would think they would let OKC know that they’re handing out suspensions if it keeps happening. That would stop this from happening.
League seems to be gargling OKC’s balls and had been for years. It’s sickening to watch.
Nuggets fans (self included) are all just thinking of the “first time?” meme
It’s been this way on Jok for years. Get used to hack-a-shaq on wemby for the next 10 years
If the refs weren’t trying to help your team he would have fouled out in the 1st quarter
You cant think of a single reason why the refs arent calling it?
Until someone’s shoulders gets popped this is just gonna continue. Then everyone will be pointing fingers but it’ll be too late.
And the thing is I wouldn’t even mind this if they were consistent with allowing physicality.
But SGA flails, makes love to the hardwood and gets whistles when anyone breaths near him.
Don’t forget the shout of “AYYY” whenever he takes a tumble to really sell it.
SGA is not getting calls, ppl really want to point to SGA when the issue with OKC is what they are allowed to do on defense and off the ball on players, their reach ins too
The Wolves played Wemby physical too, this is nothing new. Opposing teams are treating him like any big man star, star centers get hacked
The Spurs are pretty physical on defense as well.
Yeah how many calls has he actually gotten? He’s just hitting tough ass shots. The Reddit hive mind is so crazy.
Isaiah Holdenstein
isaiah Grabemstein
He’s acting like a pulling guard and trying to lead block SGA to the hoop
Pretty sure these would be a holding calls in the NFL too lol.
his first foul is at the end of 2nd quarter. This is a joke
is this all from tonight??
He didn’t really play game 1 so yep.
Wym? that’s just from the 1st
Should have preemptively titled this post “Compilation part 1”
Wemby about to go to Japan to get some sumo wrestling lessons for next season
Why he need to do that when his has his elbows that he can swing
Thailand for Muay Thai is obviously the play
Second coming of Dieselnoi
Wembuakaw
He needs to learn one of those jedi moves like when Champagnie threw Holmgren to the floor in Game 1 without even touching him.
Mr Worldwide
Dagestan. 2-3 months and forget
“Hartenstein, grab and twist Wemby’s arm every possession.”
This looks like deliberate coaching. Insane
It works when the refs don’t care
if someone gets hurt, then every bench player will send in to hurt the opposing star.
You joke but if someone INTENTIONALLY hurt Wemby. SGA would be very worried about himself that wouldn’t fly but that’s more in hockey.
Nah, it’s going to be chet, no one likes his twig ass
Por que no los dos?
SGA should be worried. At some point players should and will draw a line. If I’m Spurs my number one goal this offseason is to get an enforcer to protect the young guys
Plan B: Wear Wembanyama down.
yeah i feel thats the adjustment they made by using IHart’s corpse as a pest to Wemby and if miraculously he gets called for 6 fouls so be it he’s a non factor besides this.
This is his role. To annoy Wemby to make him loose his temper
It’s like the Shaq rules I guess? Idk
Shaq used to get the calls. That’s why teams were 3 deep with big body centers to roll through fouls.
100% but the Thunder also got their reserves as well in Caruso, Chet, Dub, Dort and etc… hats off to wemby for dealing with this so far without losing his temper
Just cause Wemby is getting less calls doesn’t mean that Shaq did. Shaq got fouled on every play, they had to call some of them eventually.
Hack-a-shaq worked due to his poor free throw percentage.
These type of fouls is honestly bordering on hoping to induce an injury or hope he gets angry again and gets ejected.
It’s absolutely coaching and even if they called it every time, H gets 6 fouls and it wears/hurts Wemby every time. They don’t care if H fouls out.
It’s classic Chris Paul defense though, “they can’t call all of them fouls..”
This is the biggest issue in the NBA, been for years
Yep. The problem is nobody wants the transitional period where the games are whistle fests where everything is called.
I say take the hit for a couple of seasons and we’ll be good. But for many, especially those that earn from the league, that’d be a disaster.
It’s pretty obvious in OKC they coach these dirty plays that refs miss most. They have so many instances of different players doing sneaky shit on both offence and defence. Flailing stepping on shoes holding arms. I don’t think it’s a coincidence
I agree with you, except for the part “refs miss”. I don’t think they miss anything, they just don’t want to make calls.
When playing OKC, you’re playing against eight players.
Their practices must be insane to watch. Flopping and whatever this is
they just take acting classes lol
I played ball in highschool and a bit of college. Coaches absolutely tell you to do this, I had a coach even tell us when we drove literally stick a elbow out at their Center and try to bruise him a little
Why is that insane? Pretty standard really for playoff basketball against a teams best player. What’s that RJ quote about manhandling Steph in the finals: They can’t call everything.
Yes, especially low post play. Why is this shocking to anyone?
Happens to stars every fucking year, and Curry used to get it way worse than what Wemby is dealing with. Feel like I’m losing my mind with how they’re acting.
Do they not see how Castle is guarding SGA, and how he guarded Ant last series lmao. They’re treating Wemby like he’s a child.
Lol, just look at the rockets last year against the warriors.
no fucking shit its deliberate coahing, lmao. First time on the playground?
I said it last game thread. Gotta body Wemby around to wear him out. I think can do it in a more neutral way (hard box outs, physical defense) instead of outright grabbing though
Every big in the league does this lol, he’s just being egregious with it because he’s literally on the court to foul out.
Refs give a lot of leeway to let you grab the offensive player off ball. Shai gets grabbed off ball and rarely draws a foul on that but offensive players initiate the grabbing off ball first. This reminds me of the strategy on kd 2022 Celtics mauled him off ball
Grabbing off ball around the torso to slow a player down is different from grabbing arms on rebound attempts like this.
this should be on the fucking refs.
a fantastic strategy when it doesn’t get called
And holding is never, ever, ever called
KAT woulda been caught on every single one lmao
To be fair that mofo does it so obviously. He is only 1 step below someone shouting to the refs “I’m holding this guy look at me!”
i almost feel like it’s the opposite. dude be screamin every time he gets roughed up that the refs know he’s up to no good when he’s the one being quiet in the paint.
I meant like he just does it so obviously that he might as well be screaming at the refs admitting it because it’s so obvious anyway. He’s a good player don’t get me wrong but look at those loose balls on Allen last game. The grabs were some of the most blatant I’ve seen
He’s the worst at hiding his silly plays. that hold on Allen at the end of game 1 sent me, so stupid
If they had KAT’s whistle they’ll probably get 6 fouls in 3 minutes
Why doesn’t wemby just keep his arms in the air??
Because that’s a waste of energy and makes boxing out harder. It also makes anything besides a lob pass easy to telegraph
Only way they can stop elite bigs 🤷♂️ what a damn joke
So when do the Spurs get to start doing this to SGA?
they do when he doesn’t have the ball in his hands
And they have the audacity to chant “refs you suck” LMFAO
They’re from Oklahoma, not exactly the brightest crayons in the box
You’ve got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know… morons
Will always upvote a blazing saddles reference.
Yup a bumfuck backwater state with nothing going for theme
But, but … They have basketball! Just look at OKC and NBA referees - together they are unbeatable!
Yeah I was wondering if I heard it wrong when they were doing that. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you.
Refs knew the assignment tonight. They were never gonna let OKC lose this game
The most obvious hold ever preventing a player for even going for contest and ref doesn’t see
It get the ref with the lazy eye but the other two? Are they blind too?
They want OKC to even the series. Game 1 had over 9 million viewers. The refs are totally going to extend this series as long as possible.
Oh, for sure, imagine San Antonio going back home up 2?No way, the viewership cash cow that is this series, the refs will make this go to seven mark my words.
I’ll watch it on six devices if the refs let us go home 2-0
I’ll make all my neighbors sign up for prime at gunpoint if they call these dirty off ball fouls even 20% more and the on ball flops 20% less in Game 3.
and people try to tell me shit like the lottery isn’t a fix when we have to see this bullshit clear as day EVERY MOTHER FUCKING YEAR.
Great spot you got this sport at Mr.Nosferatu you fucking clown of a lizard person..
Wemby should just throw another elbow to the face of OKC players and rest on the bench if the refs aren’t gonna let them win
This is basically what it boils down to. The league wants a long series as this is pretty much the real finals. They want that views and it benefits the gambling thing too.
I’d normally be enraged but I spent all day mentally preparing myself for the spurs to get completely shafted by the refs.
Yeah. Scott foster game 6, back to Zarba for game 7
they even called a foul on him. Great challenge by Mitch, but come on Tony, open your fucking eyes! They want to limit Wemby so OKC could get game 2
They need the other tony brother in this game as well
These refs must believe O.J. is innocent
refs must have helped oj kill .
How can you help kill anyone when you’re blind?
It’s like Daredevil but reffing and killing
I know this happens in basketball, but it’s clear he’s doing it nearly every play. I didn’t expect the spurs to win tonight but this is just frustrating
It’s the only reason he’s playing
Yeah it’s pretty evident but he should still play by the same rules as everyone else
It’s so fucking lame. I’m tuning in to watch Wemby play, not Wemby having Hartenstein hanging off him.
Exactly. I want to see great players play. I’m all about physical play, hustling for position, hard box outs. But this is not even remotely a basketball play. the nba should’ve told the refs in the twolves series to cut the shit on arm grabbing because it’s preventing their leagues best players from performing. It’s just lame as hell. Kind of like when shaq used to get dogpiled on by 4 guys under the basket. Just call the fouls, it’s not rocket science.
Yup. The powers that be are completely miscalculating and it’s going to bite them in the ass.
I was legit surprised I watched the entirety of game one. I turned this one off already. There’s no flow. OKC games are dogshit to watch. If I havent fallen asleep ill turn it on again at the end
Ty for tuning out. That’s how we demonstrate this will lose you money.
That’s why I thought all these “this is going to be one of best WCF’s ever” takes are going to look ridiculous. Game 1 was an outlier, get used to the other games looking like this. OKC basketball.
Surely it cannot be good for the league to have the broadcaster be able to put together a whole ass highlight reel of the same foul going uncalled over and over?
i mean spending 30 minute of broadcast time to watch someone stop and shoot free throws is also not good tv
the suits haven’t seemed to figure that out either unfortunately. to say they are out of touch until some focus group or consultant clues them in seems to be an understatement of how little they see this as a fan does.
not to mention calling fouls as offensive players are incentivized not to go to make the shot but to throw themselves at a defender
fouls were meant to discourage overly ‘foul’ play, to let flow of the game keep going and penalize it, instead now its incentivized to hunt fouls get breaks and get easy free throws. granted playing to win people will toe the line of every rule they can to win, but hte league must adjust the incentives
Well said. IMO this is the biggest problem the league is facing. But they choose to focus on tanking lol
If KAT did the shit ihart is doing in this game, he would’ve been fouled out by now already
No idea what KAT did to the refs to receive such a poor whistle.
Still has MN stank on him.
I mean KAT holds like crazy and idk, just doesn’t much more obviously
Technical foul on Devin Booker
Straight up dirty, hes trying to hook one of his arms everytime.
Im saying dirty because if Vic moves in the wrong direction he can easily dislocate his shoulder.
OKC wouldn’t be opposed to that whatsoever
Nope seen a ton of people on Facebook and Twitter praying and hoping for a Wemby injury
This highlight reel while there are chants of “ref you suck” holy fucking shamelessness
OKC Whistle is literally insane
tony brothers masterclass
Wemby had only 2 fucking FTs in the game!
NBC releasing this compilation is hilarious
Right lmao? Thought this would be fan made from the title.
Dagnault’s plan being “just foul him” because Tony Brothers is out there is really funny
Dirty team
Facts. Hate OKC much more than any other villain team in my lifetime. It’s one thing to have annoying personalities and another to have flopping and playing dirty at the core of your team’s game plan.
Did Lu Dork train all the OKC players to be a POS or what?
no need cause they all already are POS
IHart wasn’t like this before OKC. It’s definitely a systematic thing, they’re being coached to do this.
Between Chet stepping on Wemby and this bullshit this is such shit basketball
Okc always has 1 player to play dirty on the best opposing player.. It’s just you guys have started to notice the pattern when it’s been there
I hope nobody complaining about this has ever talked about how they wish guys could be physical like in the 90s
NBA fans want physical basketball unless it’s happening to their favourite players
Oh yeah 90s physicality was grabbing like a son of a bitch
“Back when there were 30% more FTA per game and Michael Jordan became the all time leader in playoff FTA per game.”
Yeah, it would’ve been an epistemological nightmare to read through r/nba game threads from the 1996 finals.
Most of those nephews weren’t even thought of during that era.
I was wondering how far I would have to scroll to find some common sense.
If people actually watched the game because they love basketball, they’d notice that Wemby basically held/pulled/tangled with Chet in just about every one of his offensive possessions in game 1… Teams are just learning how this series is being officiates on both sides.
I think Wemby is the most entertaining to player watch in the NBA, hands down. I think Foster is biased, and Brothers is losing it and it clearly affects both teams. I also think the media loves a good story, and they are glazing the shit out of Wemby and leaning into the OKC villain story, so mayyybe things a little one-sided.
This game has been so lopsided officially for OKC. Tons of missed calls and no calls in favor of them, and now the Spurs have had to waste TWO challenges in the first half. Just unbelievable.
It’s really bad
everyone can see it but the refs
It’s every single possession. I genuinely don’t understand how okc is getting away with this
This game is insanely physical on both ends, but what’s actually pissing me off is Reggie and Jamal blowing each other reminiscing like it’s Knicks vs Heat from 1999 and encouraging this type of play. What Hartenstein is doing is extremely dangerous for Wembys shoulders and elbows. There’s a reason this is a flagrant in college.
The fact that even commentary is bringing it up says it all.
hard to watch, hartenstein is absolutely hacking the shit out of everyone and the refs just dont give a shit. he tried to rip castle out of the air on that poster dunk by grabbing his shirt. absolutely foul
Y’all would be much happier with players not touching each other or going near each other, fucking weak as piss this sub is
They either hook your arms, grab your arms, step on your foot, shove you with their elbow, or flop like dolphins.
This is one of the most unlikable teams I’ve ever seen.
At least with the Warriors and Heat, people hated them because they were too good.
People hate this OKC team because they are too good but rely on bushleague tactics designed to bamboozle the refs into not calling it.
This is when the league needs people like Metta. One elbow to these dude’s necks and they’ll be rethinking their shit.
Y’all want the 7-5 center to be reffed like he’s Allen Iverson. Like this is literally what has happened in the paint in the playoffs for 50 years.
I know the average poster here is probably late teens/early twenties so I try to give them some grace, but holy shit these comments
Wemby is doing the same shit 😂😂
I don’t care if Wemby wins the next 6 chips. I don’t want to see OKC win another one. I hate how they play basketball. Either be a physical team or a soft flopping team. Doing both is discraceful.
Wemby ab to spinning elbow hart by the end of the series
right after this they chant “refs you suck” this team is a parody man
Every single person in this sub started watching basketball five years ago
Ngl y’all be loving to bitch and whine about the Thunder. If any other team did this, all of you guys would turn a blind eye as it’s playoff basketball. Like the complaining gets to a point
you know what they say if you ain’t cheating you ain’t trying
I feel like most fans opinions depend entirely on how much they like a player. This is playoff basketball, not sure why everyone’s crying. The spurs are doing the exact same thing to SGA.
I know it’s Reddit and everyone loves to whine, but I’m actually enjoying some physical basketball. None of these plays are life threatening, just two guys going at it in the post.
Feels like OKC has multiple players that don’t even play basketball and are there for one reason.
This is typical tough defense if your not coddled like wemby is. Go watch playoff basketball from any era. Please keep crying spurs fans. You haven’t lost yet and you’re already making excuses. Wembumyama got locked down, get over it lol
I don’t understand why the refs don’t call it. I don’t think it’s a foul to have your arms intertwined. But when you’re holding the arm, that should be a foul everytime.
This sub is so funny. Nuts all over themselves when thunder do something, ignore it when shai is getting hacked.
Part of being unstoppable. Happened to Shaq too
OKC is a mirage, total ref creation.
I literally have watched LeBron play in the playoffs. I literally have watched Shaq play in the playoffs
This is nothing new for physically imposing players
NBA wants 7 games 🥱
And they did let Hart do that again later lol
refs treatin wemby like hes steph 😭 blow the fuckin whistle
Ain’t this the same shit the Wolves did last series?
Refs ruined this game
looks like good defense to me
I’m sorry but OKC needs to be investigated. The hair pulling, knee grabbing, flopping and just general lack of respect for the game cannot go unpunished. This isn’t basketball anymore it’s theater
The hook was a bit much but besides that fuck it let the big boys battle it out.
Boo fuckin hoo pussy
I fucking hate this team.
Waiting for the double leg into single mount
where was my guy jokic getting PR defence from this in 2025, they did the exact same lol
OKC got some soft ass big men
Bro should already have 6 fouls but of course……
Wemby about to throw another elbow if they don’t start calling this
Remember, when you see the Thunder flair in the main sub, 99% chance he’s gaslighting you