[Highlight] Isaiah Hartenstein holding Victor Wembanyama
they do this every single play btw, they know the refs wont call them all
They only called it once because it was challenged lol
I honestly have no idea why the league lets the thunder of all teams get away with so much
its no just the Thunder. Draymond does this A LOT and it almost never gets called. its just a thing the refs dont catch
Why didnt the Nuggets or Wolves do this to Wemby?
as a wolves fan, our players definitely did this a bit lol
For the wolves sake, Randle didn’t pull people’s hair and restrict someone from jumping.
There’s levels to it. So, while Randle definitely got physical with Wemby, it wasn’t egregious. A lot of us Spurs fan just saw that as really physical ball.
I cannot express how many times I’ve heard Spurs fans say they’d rather lose to a good, physical team like Minnesota instead of this bs with OKC
They did
Why wasnt there a montage?
There were a ton of montages that were posted in the wake of Wemby’s elbow by people trying to justify Wemby.
He wasn’t justified in escalating like that, but the Wolves were pushing and pulling at him all series like this too
Espn didnt hone on it that much but there was some clips on them and it was clear in-game. And we dont hate the wolves as much as okc
because it doesnt help the narrative
Because everyone wants OKC to be murdered in the street. Also, did you even see how much attention the Wemby elbow got? The ENTIRE discussion was about the Wolves being extremely physical.
Not trying to sound rude but no way you were watching Spurs and Wolves games lol
McDaniels and Gobert felt like the most consistent ones. Anytime McDaniels happened to be around Wemby, he was holding Wembys arm.
On the play where Wemby elbowed Naz you can see McDaniels clearly holding Wembys arm with both hands the way women do when walking with their bf
They did, there’s one play of Gobert holding his hand then Ant holding jersey and neither called. More instances of Gobert/Randle holding his hand too.
Wolves kind of did do this. However, OKC has built their entire basketball strategy on this. Foul every defensive possession, the refs can’t call them all
Are they stupid?
Nuggets ars not a dirty team. They call them soft for a reason
Don’t catch, or do they ignore it
Players are all trained on how to do this. And guards too if they can hook a reaching arm. It’s gross. But the thunder are not an anomaly here. They may be perfecting it but it’s rampant
The Wolves did this too, it was clear they piloted this strategy to just constantly grab and pull and hold him so he can contest, rebound, tire him out etc…and it’s frankly pathetic the refs just allow it.
They are pretty much admitting it’s the only way to deal with Wemby, by cheating…
I’ve never heard of fouling referred to as cheating…
What would you call a game plan to constantly foul in a way that the refs can’t see in real time? It’s not legal defense, it’s not respectable…it’s betting you can get away with cheating.
Why can’t refs see this in real time? He’s not hiding it. He’s taking advantage of the fact that the refs aren’t going to call every foul, especially in the playoffs.
Refs should call every foul. The game would be better for it
I agree. I don’t care if games take 4 hours. Just call these fouls both ways.
An unfortunate truth. They’re gonna try their best to wear him down with stuff like this for the entire series.
Best strategy until Wemby gets stronger and can push people around.
the announcers played these clips praising him, as if it’s not just fucking fouling him over and over and getting away with it. “locking him down” shut up oh my god
eta: yall are probably right it wasn’t praising i was very likely yelling over it and not listening. i gotta just go to bed
nah the announcers just kinda shit on ihart for this, they’re not just glazing him
they weren’t praising him - they were calling it out and critically questioning it. and you KNOW i hate reggie so i’m not trying to cape for him.
Reggie has been calling out the Hartenstein no-call fouls all game, it’s apparently obvious to everyone except the refs
I’ve never seen a team get away with so many blatant fouls every possession. Two straight years of it.
Thunderball
even the commentators are pointing it out..
Meanwhile KAT gets called for holding Allen’s hand that has no effect on the play lol
The Sloan (Jerry) rule: Foul, since the refs can’t call them all.
They’ve been coached to do this for this exact reason
Okay, so it isn’t just me right? It seems like Wemby gets held, pushed or grabbed nearly every single play and it rarely gets called. I really do not get why this shit is allowed.
He’s been doing this the whole fucking game and I’m wondering when the refs will call it.
Hadn’t been called once. It’s ridiculous what they get away with.
They only gonna turn it up now that SA out of challenges.
Rage bail is the most effective strategy for attracting views
is it? cause i got no interest in the rest of this series now
most unwatchable team since prime Harden Rockets
They did call it once… On Wemby. And the Spurs had to waste a challenge on that bullshit
At this point every team should enact the Okc “defense” until the nba is forced to do something about it
they wont. its how wemby has been played the whole season. now with nbc magnifying this holding shit, i hope the league will do something.
Spurs also need to send the clips in.
Send da video
Hell Nawl can’t do dis
I doubt it unless viewership drops significantly. NBC magnifying it might just mean there’s more buzz around the games. They knew that this was going to be the big matchup of the entire season and they want to extend it to a Game 7 so they can make as much money as possible.
Problem is the league doesnt like a quick series. Its just if one team plays so dirty. That teams coach and org will have to make a stink about it. Otherwise the league wont really care
yea i think the same. league isnt really gonna care unless the org really goes on a crusade. and im sure the league hopes wemby is gonna rise through the physicality like the goats before him but with social media magnifying everything im hoping a lil bit of change
They probably won’t. Refs are notoriously helping OKC win games since last season.
He should have already fouled out. And then Isaiah Joe diving across the court.
how was this called as an offensive foul
As a Pacer’s fan who watched this last year for 7 games, never. Never will be the answer.
This is what they do. Once the refs let them do this it was a green light to do it all game.
That’s the thunders innovation of “playing tuff” and reinventing basketball and refs can’t get 2 out of the 10 fouls they’re committing every possession.
Same shit when Shaq was playing, dominating big men will never get those calls.
Refs called it precisely one time and it took a 1st quarter challenge to get them to call it. He was completely getting away with it the rest of the game.
Spoiler alert, they fucking won’t. They did the same to Jokic last season in the playoffs and never called shit.
They won’t. They have their orders
Why would they? It’s their job to extend the series so FanDuel and DraftKings can take in more family savings
Spurs win: what a great game by both teams. Great officiating.
Okc win: fuck this I’m not watching the nba
He’s doing it, no exaggeration, every possession
This is all he does, every game. Holding and moving screens are his super power
I’m not pretend to be the devils advocate, but it’s REALLY only one good stuff how you can guard 1x1 that Alien. No doubt
IT’S EVERY TIME MAN
It’s pathetic. The Thunder are legit the most pathetic “good” sports team I’ve maybe ever seen
How do we even know they’re good? We’ve never actually seen this iteration play legitimate basketball
I have full confidence they’d still be a good team if called fairly. But I do not think they’d be this historically great team like they have been the last couple years. Their defense would not be as disruptive if they got called for fouls properly, and the offense is already suspect.
How can we tell if a defending champion with a 2-time MVP is good or not…hmm…🧐 puzzling
They’re the fucking chiefs of the nfl
Welcome to having an athletic giant big in the playoffs. Foul him on every play they can’t call em all.
Man, I wouldn’t be this frustrated if it was on offense. This shit is happening on defense with zero play on the ball and you know if he tries to be just as physical he is getting called for fouls.
Every single play he grabs his arm like that. Insanely dirty gameplan
“They can’t give all of us 6 fouls”
Spurs should do the same shit and see what happens
They already do lol
It would be like when Collin Sexton had to play 3 on 5 at Alabama that one time
its every play abd the ref can not miss it happening. its crazy as fuck.
Feels like whatever reffing happened game 1 was an error on their behalf, it’s been dog shit this game again like usual
Because Tony brothers is reffing this game
This team is so unlikeable
The Classic OKC whistle is in effect. SGA hitting the deck like a sniper is in the building.
every drive. even in jumpshot he falls down. such an unlikeable clown
SGA hitting the deck is not the issue, he hasn’t gotten calls
It’s their reaching on the other end, they swipe at everything and hold players and don’t get calls
Caruso especially in their 10-0 run reached 50 times in one possession lmao
to the refs credit they havent been calling it
only called the one on McLaughlin being late on the contest.
other times its been a Spurs fastbreak with Shai lagging on the floor
I forgot which player said it but this is really one of those “you gotta win by 20 to win by 2” kinda games
💯💯 NBA was totally giving this one to Okc. This series is a cash cow. I’d be shocked if it doesn’t go 7.
every single time without fail. classic tony brothers
OKC is so dirty just play ball man
They can’t win outright.
Pacers’ fans been calling this shit for a year
Nuggets as well. No one was there to help, they called our fat center too soft. Lost game 7 because of Caruso “defense” on fat man
The fact that OKC gets away with this shit literally every play, but also gets the SGA whistle is insane. If Wemby and Castle got the same whistle they would be at the stripe every trip down the floor.
Castle has the worst fucking whistle
How does SGA fall down every jump shot?
In case it misses so he gets the calls
What a coward.
Practice
He’s like Embiied on the floor 🤣
This is worse. This is the current mvp.
Who does this? Why would anyone want to look stupid forever in highlight reels?
This is literally every single play
I’m literally crying rn
Commentators openly talking about it and bringing attention to it while the refs do nothing is interesting
refs are paid to extend this series. why would they call the obvious cheating
I almost can’t watch. Someone on the spurs gets fouled almost every play and it’s not called
SGA tried to shoot over Wemby. Wemby is a good foot away from him. He misses, and somehow he’s on the ground.
The spurs need a guy on the bench to bring back old school mentality on stuff like this. If you’re gonna pull on him and foul like that, somebody gives it back even harder.
Yeah, send Plumlee in there!
Honestly lol. Put him in, moving screen iHart into the next state.
Nah, SGA. Lets see which superstar is more durable
some pacers james johnson energy lmao
Ball knower
THUNDER FLOPPER CHEATERS.
Clearly their game plan was to beat the shit out of him and hope they don’t call it.
Glad the refs are letting them, would hate to watch an entertaining game like the first. Of course the touch fouls on Wemby are called though.
Ngl this game is being officiated horrribly
Is this your first time watching basketball?
Nothing new, okc ALWAYS has 1 dispensible player to hacl the other teams best player, check the receipts last 3 playoffs.
COWARDS
It’s like this is some of y’all’s first time watching basketball. If you’re not borderline fouling every play on defense you’re not a good defensive team, you have to be physical if you want to win a chip. 🤷♂️
This isn’t borderline fouling. This is 100% a foul. Have you ever actually played basketball especially in an officiated league? It’s a foul in pickup if you pull someone down ffs 🤦♀️
Every single thunder game theres non stop threads of you people whining to each other
This has been every team in the playoffs. I hate OKC, but as a cavs fan who just watched the Pistons do this on every missed shot- this doesn’t seem like alot
Do you honest to god expect r/NBA users to watch anything more than what they see here
But you see, this is Wemby
okc is just not fun to watch at all. all they do is bush league shit like this
This is what Minnesota was doing too.
Ref game now
Tirico asks Reggie about the holding going on and he just spews some bs about Hartenstein being 30 pounds heavier and it’ll wear Wemby down over the course of the game lmao like what nonsense are we watching and listening to
They can’t win without it
watch there be no okc flairs in here
They suck and now they’re cheating
Fuck this guy
Love it.
This motherfucker should’ve fouled out by now. Fucking ridiculous
Holmgren does this all the time too
they did the same think to jokic last year, every play. Somehow they keep getting away with it…
They need to change the challenge rule! How tf the spurs win BOTH challenges but can’t challenge rest of the game and lose a timeout, if you win you should be able to retain your challenge and timeout no matter how many times , refs need to do A better job
seriously investigate the refs
The refs have been instructed to win the game for the thunder.
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 Play ball!
nah they know the refs dont call these. its the proven counter to wemby at this point.
Fucking disgusting team full of dirty players
“Can’t call them all” is bs. Just start calling them all and they’ll 100% stop doing this shit
This is how you end up getting elbowed to the neck.
He finna get the beaux’s
Wasn’t that a foul?
Nothing new from OKC.
Can both teams lose?
I concur wholeheartedly
When are they gonna really call it? When a someone dislocates a shoulder?
Keep crying.
Watching the Thunder play feels like the world is gaslighting me.
How are they allowed to do this? They cut to a montage of him doing this like it was a highlight reel.
You must be new to basketball or have never watched an NBA game for the last 40 years.
I won’t begrudge Wemby if he does the people’s elbow again
How do they not review this type of stuff and suspend these dirty players? They are intentionally trying to hurt the player that everyone is tuning in to watch with dirty azz cheap shots.
thunder are a bunch of fucking frauds man
The peoples elbow will return in Avengers Doomsday
DIRTY. I dunno how fans rock this
ANOTHER ONE
Wemby +1 and 7 point first half downvote party.
Wemby is fragile.
Wemby did this every time on chet game 1 and got called only once lmao this sub is special
These refs are on some bullshit. They are letting the Thunder do whatever they want.
They chanting refs you suck so loud and you know what they’re right. Just not in the way they think
Kelly Olynyk, you know what to do!
Not a single OKC flair son 🤣🤣🤣 they probably sucking each other’s dick on their sub 😂😂
Hate how they’ve corrupted my boy
So is this now becoming a part of their organization’s philosophy? Like is this coming from the staff or above? First it was just dirty dort, then chet, now iHart and I have a feeling I’m missing someone else… is the league gonna say anything? I can’t imagine the league wants injuries and lower viewership.
The fix is in. The refs got a call from the league office before the game. Not even joking
Please keep crying about the refs SA 😂
Wemby getting the Steph gameplan.
Slow mo every single play in the past 20 years, every player does this
Apparently you can do that now, Gobert did it a lot last series , now it’s even worse with Hartenstein
The OKC Floppers, ladies and gentlemen
Dumbass challenge by the spurs 😂
We going start calling Hartenstein Starting Left Tackle for the Oklahoma City Thunder
Man fuck OKC.
Minnesota did the same thing. Every team will do it.
I think we should stop watching games if OKC keeps getting away with these crazy onesided reffing.
He’s been holding him on every single fucking play. It’s ridiculous.
Imagine betting on sports. Now imagine betting on this sport lmao
I honestly just wouldn’t care if the thunder dissolved as a franchise lol
Hartenstein fouled out 10 mins before half-time in real life but for some reason this shit as fictional as sga natural shooting motion. 🔫
there’s gonna be a lot of these clips! lol.
I truly think the refs were jealous about how Wemby stole the spotlight in the first game. So they decided it’s time for their MVP performance tonight.
Do refs review this type of stuff during halftime? Or am I delusional that they would dare try to improve
They want that second elbow. Wemby working overtime to keep that cool.
Wild that none of them are called tho. Refs looking right at it. Even had to challenge one to get it right.
Classic okc lmao, revisionist history will be brutal for these frauds
This is the most blatant form of cheating that I have witnessed and maybe it’s not even cheating maybe they know it’s happening and they’re allowing it because they know that the thunder can’t go down 0-2
Wemby Rules