Player, Team	1st Place Votes(10 points)	2nd Place Votes (7 points)	3rd Place Votes(5 points)	4th Place Votes(3 points)	5th Place Votes(1 point)	Total Points
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, Oklahoma City	83	13	3	1	0	939
Nikola Jokic, Denver	10	48	37	4	1	634
Victor Wembanyama, San Antonio	5	36	47	10	2	569
Luka Doncic, Los Angeles Lakers	0	1	8	60	23	250
Cade Cunningham, Detroit	2	1	3	11	42	117
Jaylen Brown, Boston	0	1	2	14	30	89
Kawhi Leonard, LA Clippers	0	0	0	0	1	1
Donovan Mitchell, Cleveland	0	0	0	0	1	1

Locksmith1778

423 | 4 hours ago

Luka not getting a single first place vote is interesting, I guess that late season push was just social media fan hype

SplitOk186

232 | 4 hours ago

Luka has always been infinitely more popular with fans than with voters

Arguably the plurality of fans across most platforms were supporting his MVP case in 2024 when he got like 4 1st place votes in the actual voting

He’s kind of the opposite of SGA in this regard who gets tons of respect in votes but is despised by fans

khra123

59 | 4 hours ago

Luka is a man of the people

bigmanlittlebike89

42 | 3 hours ago

Just a single dad trying to make ends meet

Rosebud_Frozen_Peas | Suns

13 | 3 hours ago

Just a remorseful ex-con who’s trying to fly right and get his kids back.

acekingoffsuit | Timberwolves

5 | 3 hours ago

Not nearly as much of a man of the people as Bogdan Bodganovic though.

Kodak333 | Hawks

4 | an hour ago

White people

maryjain_ | Warriors

38 | 4 hours ago

I think there was legitimate media hype building as well but the OKC blowout + the injury was just the worst possible ending to the season and there was no way he was in contention after that.

FKJVMMP | MIL

25 | 3 hours ago

He doesn’t do anything that wasn’t already covered by somebody else. You want big fucking box scores? There’s Jokic. You appreciate two-way play? You’re surely not voting Luka for that. You want winning? Bunch of guys did it more than him.

Everybody else has a point of difference. Nobody won more or was more consistent than Shai. Nobody played better D than Wemby. Nobody was more of a surprise than Cade’s Pistons taking the first seed. Jokic is the only one whose case is pretty similar and you’re always fighting an uphill battle if your MVP case is “basically a guard version of Jokic” given how much the media tends to slobber him.

Knickstape08 | NYK

17 | 3 hours ago

This is a great point I never thought about, while Luka’s numbers are crazy Jokic’s are still another level. I compared their numbers this year and the only things Luka has over is Ppg (he shot 8 more
shots a game compared to Jokic) and Steals (1.6 to 1.4). So anyone who says Luka should be the MVP basically has to prove why he’s better than Jokic first and then why he’s better than SGA.

It’s a hard pill to swallow for him and his fans but there’s 3 dudes in the league who are just better than him. Jokic at his age will probably fall in rankings within the next couple years but SGA and Wembanyama aren’t going anywhere and I doubt the Lakers can get a team better than one or both of SA and OKC. It’ll take a lot for Doncic to ever win MVP IMO which is crazy because 5 years ago people would probably think he’d have a couple by now.

ImAShaaaark | Supersonics

5 | 3 hours ago

I compared their numbers this year and the only things Luka has over is Ppg (he shot 8 more shots a game compared to Jokic) and Steals (1.6 to 1.4). So anyone who says Luka should be the MVP basically has to prove why he’s better than Jokic first and then why he’s better than SGA.

6 PPG historically has always considered a bigger deal than 2 APG and like 4 RPG. Plus, Jokic is a absolute frickin liability on defense at the most important defensive position while Luka is simply ‘not great’ at arguably the least important defensive position.

Knickstape08 | NYK

-1 | 2 hours ago

—->(im wrong here) It wasn’t “2 APG and like 4 rebounds”, he averaged 4 more assists and over 5 more rebounds.
Also, no player ever led both rebounds and assists in the league so I think if you want to talk historically that’s more historic than having 6 more points a game.

Stay mad Luka fans, the only award this dude will ever hold is “NBA ppg season leader” and “most technical fouls”

Edit: my assist stats are wrong

ImAShaaaark | Supersonics

2 | an hour ago

How is 10.7 APG four more than 8.3 APG?!?

Knickstape08 | NYK

0 | an hour ago

I messed up I apologize you’re right I don’t know what I was looking at that made me put that. Either way my point still stands he led the league in both categories.

ImAShaaaark | Supersonics

2 | an hour ago

And Luka led the league in PPG, which is traditionally the most valued of the production statistics, no?

Knickstape08 | NYK

1 | an hour ago

I would say of all 3 it’s the best one but Jokic was the first player in history to lead assists and rebounds together. That was the original commenters point that whatever accomplishment Luka makes in a year someone usually does something even more historic. Averaging 33 is crazy amazing but it’s not even his career high in a season he’s led the league before with higher ppg and he was third in MVP that year.

ParticularRiver641

-1 | an hour ago

Jokic is better than Luka on defense, whilst also being a better offensive player. That Jokic might be worse for a center at defense than Luka is for a point guard is irrelevant. MVP is for the most impactful player, not the player best for their position.

ImAShaaaark | Supersonics

3 | an hour ago

Jokic is better than Luka on defense,

Luka has never played worse defense in the playoffs than Jokic did this year, he was beyond atrocious.

Jokic might be worse for a center at defense than Luka is for a point guard is irrelevant.

No it isn’t , being a defensive liability when playing the most important defensive position is a much bigger deal than being a defensive liability as a PG. Similarly an elite defensive center will always be more much impactful defensively than an elite guard. I’m not certain that there has ever been a guard that legitimately deserved DPOY for exactly the same reason you said, “DPOY is for the most impactful defender, not the best defender at their position”.

MVP is for the most impactful player, not the player best for their position.

And him being a traffic cone center who won’t contest shots is a form of impact.

LordHussyPants | Celtics

1 | an hour ago

Luka has never played worse defense in the playoffs than Jokic did this year, he was beyond atrocious.

regular season award

DistinctMains

1 | an hour ago

Luka was getting ripped by the Celtics lmao.

ParticularRiver641

1 | an hour ago

Luka has never played worse defense in the playoffs than Jokic did this year, he was beyond atrocious.

2024 luka playoffs. MVP is a regular season award. How Jokic played in the playoffs is irrelevant. The numbers don’t bear this out anyway. If you look at the points the Nuggets conceded, whilst not good, weren’t atrocious, especially when you consider the Nuggets were already a below par defensive team and were missing their two best defenders.

No it isn’t , being a defensive liability when playing the most important defensive position is a *much* bigger deal than being a defensive liability as a PG.

In terms of the opportunity cost, sure. In terms of defensive impact, it doesn’t matter. A center will have more impact than a guard with an equal amount of defensive skill because of the nature of the position. Jokic has more of a positive impact on defense than Luka because if nothing else, he’s a better rebounder.

That the difference between Jokic and the average starting center might be greater than Luka and the average starting point guard in terms of defence (debateable) doesn’t change that Jokic has more impact defensively.

Eg, in football a bad quarterback will present a greater opportunity cost for a team than a bad punter would, but the impact the quarterback has on the game is still greater because of his position.

And him being a traffic cone center who won’t contest shots is a form of impact.

Is rim protection the only way a center can impact the game? Someone arguing for Luka shouldn’t call other’s traffic cones.

DistinctMains

-3 | 3 hours ago

Jokic’s defense scales with the perimeter defenders around him. The 2024 Nuggets were very effective defensively because of the perimeter defense.

ImAShaaaark | Supersonics

7 | 2 hours ago

The 2024 Nuggets were very effective defensively because of Aaron Gordon and the perimeter defense.

His defense doesn’t scale for shit, the defense has been carried by his teammates, and AG in particular, for most of his career. Yes, he gets less exposed when there are others playing great defense on the perimeter and interior. That’s not unique to him, good defenses can hide bad defenders.

DistinctMains

1 | 2 hours ago

The 2024 Nuggets had like 2 good defenders and they still finished 8th lmao. KCP is a better defender than AG and those Jokic and KCP lineups went crazy. The defense does 100% scale for all players when they play with elite defenders just as offense does.

crazyjatt | Raptors

3 | 2 hours ago

6 ppg more on same efficiency is pretty big difference. KD has 6 ppg more than LeBron overall and one is a scorer while other isnt.

Knickstape08 | NYK

1 | 2 hours ago

Jokic shot over 10% from the field better and 5% better from free throw than Doncic. Jokic’s effective FG% was over 5% better than Doncic (61.8 to 56.3). There’s really no argument for anyone to say Doncic is better than Jokic, there’s no statistic Doncic clearly is above him in. Luka fans can only say he averaged the most points but he led the league in shot attempts (the other 3 were not in the top 5) and free throw attempts (only Shai was on top 5).

Kindly_Ad995

5 | 3 hours ago

Luka’s my favorite player but yea it’s not looking great, his only hope atp is one of the main guys gets hurt and/or Walters does the quickest retool in history and he finally gets a roster that can win 60+ games. Even then he wouldn’t ever be as loved by voter type people as much as Shai or Jokic.

A lot of it is on Luka (weight, defense etc) but I do also firmly believe he has had shit luck in terms of roster consistency and front offices, by far the worst out of his peers (not sure if I would say Giannis or Embiid are the same generation as him?). Hes almost a decade in and hasn’t had a consistent star running mate for more than like 2 years (compared to say Tatum and Brown or Shai/Chet/Dub having a 5-9 year runway, Wemby will almost certainly have the same with Harper and Castle, even Jokic although Denver has had its fair share of rough rosters, they did have a championship level core held together for a few years). It was already bad just looking at Dallas (only truly good team he had there was together for a few months before he got traded) now he’s staring down the barrel of a soft rebuild at age 28.

Just a few years ago I thought it was kind of automatic that he would win multiple MVPs., there was a stretch of like 3 seasons where he was the betting favorite headed into every one, now I’m feeling like he’ll be lucky to walk away with any.

xBootstrap | Lakers

2 | an hour ago

It’s the curse of being too good too early, similarly to Lebron’s career start. Their teams went to the playoffs in their 2nd season (3rd for Lebron) and didn’t have the chance to build through the draft. Dallas gambled early and traded for KP in the middle of Luka’s rookie season but that move didn’t really pan out. They then dug a hole for the rest of Luka’s time there, aside from his last year.

DarkKnightCometh | Lakers

21 | 3 hours ago

I mean, the fact he missed almost a quarter of the season definitely killed that hype. Most of the mvp talk I saw died after the last hamstring injury. Before that he was definitely deserving of being in the conversation

ChessHistory

14 | 4 hours ago

The Jalen Brown over Luka stuff is still going to be looked back at as laughable

PanthalassaRo | Knicks

9 | 3 hours ago

Just Draft Kings™ trying to take the money of tons of Lakers fans for free.

gjaxx

4 | 3 hours ago

I mean he got destroyed in the OKC game. That surely would’ve left a lasting impression on voters.

Augchm | 76ers

1 | 2 hours ago

Voters literally just look at impact metrics and wins. Which I disagree with but that’s all they do.

Burgerburgerfred | Nets

1 | an hour ago

If the momentum increased through the end of the season (and honestly if he played in the postseason which is sad that I genuinely believe it influences votes to some extent) then he probably would’ve gotten a handful.

Jamar1James23

-6 | 3 hours ago

Luka is obviously a better player than Sga, but this is not the year to argue for MVP, he is clearly 4th in that field of guys

CrippledBanana | Canada

303 | 4 hours ago

Shai getting a 4th place vote and jokic getting 4 fourths and a fifth is comedy ngl

AleroRatking | Vancouver Grizzlies

28 | 3 hours ago

Welcome to ranked voting

OhEmGeeBasedGod | Cavaliers

25 | 3 hours ago

Not really. The whole point of having 100 voters is that the diversity of thought should yield a fair result. The outliers will be severely outweighed by the rest, just like they were here.

If we just want everyone to vote the same, we’d only need one MVP voter.

Hopeful_Net3206

22 | 3 hours ago

We get it dawg, you voted 4th for sga

DragoxDrago | Thunder

16 | 2 hours ago

That’s valid for random samples, but these are chosen voters who are meant to be somewhat impartial. There’s really no argument for anyone who should be knowledgeable about basketball to have SGA or Jokic outside the top ³⁄₄

OverallGeneral7129 | Cavaliers

4 | an hour ago

I would have had Jokic 4th in all honesty

fecalfrown | Nuggets

1 | 34 minutes ago

Before the playoffs? Really? Can you explain why

OverallGeneral7129 | Cavaliers

1 | 20 minutes ago

My ladder was Shai, Wemby, Luka, Jokic. I don’t feel like I have to explain Shai and Wemby but I would honestly put Luka over him. Jokic played one more game than Luka and until the end of the year the Lakers were ahead of the Nuggets until Luka went down so I feel like he was more valuable. Jokic had a great year I just think Luka had a better one

fecalfrown | Nuggets

1 | 15 minutes ago

So the argument is he (Jokic) played on more game and the Nuggets took the 3 seed off one game. So take that game away and they had the same record (if you think they lose a game he misses) so Luka is more valuable?

OverallGeneral7129 | Cavaliers

1 | 10 minutes ago

Yes it’s just an opinion, I’m not going to act like you’re insane for disagreeing. Also Jokic played pretty rough in his first few games back that’s something I’m kinda factoring in

Knight-of-dark1 | Thunder

142 | 4 hours ago

Okay, who the hell voted Shai fourth? And Cade? Really?

ThinReply2047 | Thunder

118 | 4 hours ago

This is why there will never be another unanimous MVP again. Some of these voters do some illegal shit with their votes lol

Skipper3210 | NYK

62 | 4 hours ago

Tbf voters always did egregious stuff with their votes. Like Melo over LeBron or AI over Shaq

SpadeRyker | Thunder

31 | 3 hours ago

Across all sports this is such a ridiculous problem. Ichiro and Jeter missed out on being unanimous HOFers just because Ruth and other legends didn’t get it. Or in the case of the NFL with Bill Belichick missing out on being first ballot HOF because of spiteful voters. There’s way too much bias and politicking in these votes that get in the way of just doing the obvious thing.

eyepatchabs

30 | 3 hours ago

The Belichick snub is legitimately the worst ever and I genuinely think the Hall should’ve intervened and said fuck you he’s unanimous anyway. It’s that bad.

EstimateOne9748

10 | 2 hours ago

BB is one of the most influential people in NFL history. The hall of fame is a joke for leaving him out, it destroyed any credibility they had.

Kodak333 | Hawks

2 | an hour ago

He’s a dirty cheater

RavensPlzDontChoke

7 | 3 hours ago

I think Wemby could have a unanimous MVP in him. In today’s league you’ll need a perfect mix of dominance and uniqueness.

ThinReply2047 | Thunder

-6 | 3 hours ago

Nah these Jokic/Luka dick riders in the media won’t allow that

Rich_Amount7157 | Spurs

11 | 3 hours ago

Jokic will always have riders for sure, Luka though has never been favored by MVP voters for some reason or another, even in moments when he arguably should have.

shaboogawa | Lakers

13 | 3 hours ago

The same Luka with zero 1st place votes has dick riders?

ThinReply2047 | Thunder

-2 | 3 hours ago

Wait until he actually plays the correct amount of games

12footjumpshot

4 | 3 hours ago

The Jokic stans are jumping ship to Wemby as we speak

Wolfpac187 | OKC

5 | 3 hours ago

Na for some people Jokic has something Wemby will never have

JeffersonTowncar | Spurs

3 | 3 hours ago

TBF we don’t know that Wemby doesn’t like horses.

DeluxeTea | Lakers

1 | 2 hours ago

Are there horses that Wemby can ride without his feet dragging on the ground?

chillripper | Spurs

2 | 2 hours ago

yeah mystery… i wonder white the issue might be??

TheRealArturis

1 | 3 hours ago

nah, too dark for some of em

_19911118 | Raptors

1 | 2 hours ago

No they’re not lol Simmons will never let Jokic go

12footjumpshot

1 | 2 hours ago

just watch what happens with Simmons’ takes into next season

Icyseas_ | Warriors

1 | an hour ago

No one’s season deserves a unanimous mvp

jjkm7 | Raptors

31 | 3 hours ago

Shai 4th and jokic + wemby getting 5th place votes is comical

Dramatic_Snow_9688

16 | 4 hours ago

The pistons were the number 1 seed, and as we’ve been seeing in the playoffs, have nothing on offence outside of Cade. Not an egregious vote.

StevenAdams_Mustache | Thunder

10 | 3 hours ago

You cant do best player on the best team when theres a better team in a tougher conference.

poopy_mc_pantsy

7 | 3 hours ago

you can if you think the pistons supporting cast is garbage

MLGLies | Pistons

1 | 3 hours ago

It’s not best player on the best team. It’s only threat on a team that got to a 1-seed.

uziair | Clippers

0 | 3 hours ago

What wrong with cade. He lead a team to 60 wins. That deserve at least one or two first place votes. Both Shai and cade missed similar amount of games too.

SkinfluteHero | Spurs

1 | 2 hours ago

Someone must’ve done their top 5 in reverse order

Jamar1James23

-2 | 3 hours ago

Why not? He is the 4th best of those players, maybe they valued that over team record/success

jjkm7 | Raptors

82 | 3 hours ago

I truly don’t see how someone could justify sga getting a 4th place votes or even worse jokic getting a 5th place vote

Magictank2000 | Bucks

37 | 2 hours ago

ask any r/nba user about the SGA vote and they’ll whip up something delusional in no time

Ok_Somewhere_6317 | Pacers

4 | an hour ago

Jokic 5th place votes make waaaaay more sense this year than shai anywhere below top 2

Rushman0 | Knicks

5 | an hour ago

No, both equally make absolutely zero sense.

Emotional-Chef-7601

2 | an hour ago

I can understand Jokic. Jokic has voter fatigue and he wasn’t as good when he came back from injury. Shai is the one that makes no sense.

here_for_the_lols | Thunder

2 | 38 minutes ago

Half this sub would have Shai at 4th lol

FunnySwordsman369 | Thunder

1 | 21 minutes ago

Wouldnt be shocked to see justin termine be one of those fourth placed votes

Pleasestoplyiiing

-5 | an hour ago

I could see Luka, Jokic and Wemby ahead of him. That’s not crazy. Each of their teams are way worse without those 3 than OKC would be.

But narratives.

DingleberryOrchard | Thunder

5 | an hour ago

OKC with Jalen Williams leading the way isn’t the one seed.

OkIntroduction3119

3 | an hour ago

The Spurs, Lakers, and Nuggets all showed that they were capable without their best player playing high minutes or even touching the court. This narrative that good teams need to automatically suck without their best player needs to end.

ESMoriarty

56 | 4 hours ago

Cade?

modsgavemeherpes

81 | 4 hours ago

He clearly wasn’t the best player in the league not even close but has an argument for most important to his team. I still don’t agree though but I can see the thinking.

porkchop487 | Bulls

13 | 3 hours ago

Not a chance he’s more important than Jokic or Wemby to their teams

RelevantTreacle3004 | 76ers

1 | 36 minutes ago

I was team Cade for MVP and that was my main thinking, the on + off stats were crazy and the rest of his team was composed of chokers and frauds since day 1

No-Eagle2968

1 | 24 minutes ago

then why did he have the most efficent 30+ppg regular season since michael jordan and hsitoric clutch stats. yeah he also won clutch player of the year. playoffs is a different story but regular season mvp was clearly sga.

heat_fan_ | Raptors

4 | 4 hours ago

5th

Motor-Platform-200

1 | 3 hours ago

Relax, it was only two votes. Probably homers.

Draciouz

44 | 4 hours ago

Out of everyone on this list, Jaylen Brown is the only one with a negative on-off (season and career), funny how bullying the media actually works

heat_fan_ | Raptors

49 | 4 hours ago

Kawhi, Spida getting that 1 vote

vunacar

41 | 4 hours ago

This officially marks 6 straight years of top 2 finish for Jokic, which is low key kinda crazy. He deserves it though.

ImAShaaaark | Supersonics

-1 | 2 hours ago

He deserves it though.

Does he? Wemby had a bunch more wins and played both sides of the ball.

Ok_Somewhere_6317 | Pacers

4 | an hour ago

They downvoting but ur right. Wemby has easily been top 2 alongside shai this season

FromSaintsToSellers | Spurs

-1 | 2 hours ago

Terrence Shannon jr top 25 all time by transitivity.

Waste-Milk2716

33 | 4 hours ago

Ok so past three straw polls have now only been off by 5-6 votes for winner. Wemby getting 5th place votes is crazy

831loc | San Francisco Warriors

4 | an hour ago

We need to find out who these voters are and shame them.

IntelligentAd5460 | Grizzlies

30 | 4 hours ago

i need to meet the dude who voted for Donavan Mitchell

L4ZERDT | Celtics

26 | 4 hours ago

They didn’t vote for Donovan Mitchell, Donovan Mitchell was their 5th pick

ninthspirit | Spurs

19 | 4 hours ago

Not even a single vote for Brunson is surprising. I feel like Brown and Cade got too many votes

jjkm7 | Raptors

11 | 3 hours ago

Dmitch getting a vote over brunson lol

PanthalassaRo | Knicks

4 | 3 hours ago

Mitchell has always been a media darling, it must be because he has a smaller head…

BackgroundShower4063 | Pistons

7 | 4 hours ago

I was also surprised not to see Brunson higher

Rushman0 | Knicks

3 | an hour ago

Not surprising. Brunson is a playoff riser more than regular season

Bandit-Bunny-7727

17 | 4 hours ago

0 votes for Luka 1st is sad.

Elijahc513 | LAL

16 | 4 hours ago

Not saying Luka should’ve won or anything but having zero first place votes while Cade gets 2 is hilariously bad

Zeeron1 | Thunder

19 | 4 hours ago

There are a few voters that should probably have their privileges revoked moving forward lol

GiantsInThePipes

17 | 3 hours ago

Kind of baffling Jalen Brunson isn’t anywhere on here.

scoobs0688 | PHI

12 | 4 hours ago

How many of the Jokic voters were Ringer employees?

IncaseAce | Thunder

18 | 4 hours ago

7 of Jokic’s 10 1st place votes were made public SVG(Prime)

Michael Pina(Ringer)

James Herbert(CBS Sports)

Bill Simmons(Ringer)

Justin Termine(Sirius XM)

Yoav Modai(Sport 5) dont ask idk what it is either)

Jason Anderson (Sacramento)

radda | Spurs

3 | 3 hours ago

I’d like to take back all the praise I gave SVG during the game on Friday

_19911118 | Raptors

7 | 2 hours ago

SVG said in his pod with lowe before the playoffs that he thinks jokic can be considered the goat….

Darthmalak3347 | Thunder

1 | an hour ago

im pretty sure he’s trying to get back into coaching, and denver looks like a hot seat rn.

Dazzling-Slide8288

0 | 3 hours ago

Pina for sure. That dude’s entire job is to suck Jokic off. I think Simmons said he changed his vote to Jokic on vibes.

ElectronicReport4113 | Thunder

12 | 4 hours ago

So Cade is the favorite to get the 5th spot on 1st Team?

stuntastic1414 | Pistons

8 | 4 hours ago

Been.

ElectronicReport4113 | Thunder

4 | 4 hours ago

Shout out, Cade

Motor-Platform-200

2 | 3 hours ago

Yeah he should be if this voting lines up with all-nba votes. Would make no sense for Brown to get in over him based on this.

KiowaBear | Thunder

9 | 3 hours ago

How does Luka not get any 1st place votes? Maybe the games played?

Kindly_Ad995

8 | 3 hours ago

Cade having more is hilarious

Life-Negotiation-337 | Thunder

6 | 4 hours ago

According to the media this was the tightest MVP race in history the last month of the season apparently.

wcooper97 | OKC

3 | 3 hours ago

Media is all owned by gambling companies now, needed to squeeze out a few more dollars on non-front-runner bets.

Life-Negotiation-337 | Thunder

3 | 2 hours ago

Think it was the combo of that & once the Thunder beat the Nuggets a couple times in early March the race was really SGA vs the games played limit. So the media was trying to build some suspense so they had something to talk about.

CrippledBanana | Canada

1 | 9 minutes ago

Tbh it still can be even if at the end there is a clear winner. It was an interesting mvp race this year. Not often you can say there are 4 guys who looked like they could be mvps in other years competing at once.

DrMarvMonror

6 | 4 hours ago

Only 8 people received MVP votes (and 2 of them barely). Didn’t expect that. I thought there’d be some Brunson, KD, Maxey votes

Motor-Platform-200

6 | 3 hours ago

Well the voters are essentially picking their top 5 of the season and I don’t see how Brunson, KD, or Maxey make any top 5 list.

DrMarvMonror

4 | 3 hours ago

Mitchell and Kawhi made it so I thought some Knicks beat writer would give Brunson a shout. Not that he’d deserve it. Just saying there’s usually more people getting consideration.

EarthWarping | NBA

3 | 4 hours ago

tbf, those 6 were the ones talked on for mvp all season

DrMarvMonror

2 | 4 hours ago

I know but usually there’s some more diversity when it comes to 4/5th place votes. Last year Evan Mobley got an MVP vote so I thought we’d see something similar

Much-Reach6688

3 | 3 hours ago

Luka getting no first place votes is absolutely disgusting.

TheKeviKs | Spurs

5 | an hour ago

Who seriously gave Shai a fourth place vote ?

Who gave fifth place votes to Jokic and Wemby ?

Fuckthebeard

2 | 4 hours ago

A guy that finished as 10 seed got mvp vote?

jjkm7 | Raptors

3 | 4 hours ago

The last minute wemby hype and ladder changes had me thinking he would get more first place votes than that

Parallel-Quality

9 | 3 hours ago

Yeah there was a massive media push only for him to not even be the runner up?

Knickstape08 | NYK

4 | 3 hours ago

I think Jokic’s win over him swayed some votes. Also, Jokic was playing like the best player until he got hurt I think people just don’t remember because he missed a month and took some time to get back into form. Wembanyama caught fire at the end but when the voters sat down they had to remember those first 3 months Jokic was torching the league.

I don’t think anyone seriously thought he’d win MVP, they just needed to make convo because Shai was so clear after the Nuggets struggled so much.

TheMagicStik

1 | 3 hours ago

It was like a 2 pt win that the Spurs very easily could have won, I couldn’t imagine that game deciding anything unless they didnt actually watch the game.

Knickstape08 | NYK

3 | 2 hours ago

Bro cmon, Jokic had 40 with zero turnovers and hit multiple clutch shots over Wembanyama who everyone knew would win the DPOY, that game was definitely a deciding factor on who some voters would put second and third place on their ballot.

siphillis | Spurs

5 | 3 hours ago

Aged well at least, given how well he’s played in these playoffs

s3thcience | Spurs

3 | an hour ago

coz of the nuggets win vs the spurs on i think the last 2 games agains the nuggets? nuggets won it all with jokic dominating.

_19911118 | Raptors

2 | 2 hours ago

Lol at the massive media push. NBA media loves making up storylines for mvp and wemby’s answer was like steak to a pack of wolves. Imo the push wasn’t for wemby winning but rather for Shai not to win. The debate was Shai vs Jokic all season and then when the team faced each other Shai came out on top with clutch shots and the mvp was decided…… Or do we thought bc after a few weeks the media had amnesia. A lot of the voters that were pushing for Wemby had ulterior motives (not voting for Shai) bc they all ended up voting for Jokic in the end lol

Kindly_Ad995

1 | 3 hours ago

The push got him to basically split 2nd with Jokic.

KeyChallenge4562

-6 | 3 hours ago

He should have but also voters are notoriously box score watchers

siphillis | Spurs

6 | 3 hours ago

Definitely shifted away from seeding lately. The Spurs have been way better than the Nuggets all season but it barely mattered

KeyChallenge4562

-2 | 3 hours ago

It’s 100% because of triple double man, Duncan was notoriously underrated for the same reasons, team ball wins games not awards

dhejjrrjbrbrd | Thunder

1 | 3 hours ago

“Box score watchers” yet the runaway favorite is notorious for not being a box score filler

You’re crazy

KeyChallenge4562

-2 | 3 hours ago

I’m not even talking about SGA but Jokic and Luka, Thunder fans are ridiculously defensive. Enjoy your MVP and stop being salty winners smh

dhejjrrjbrbrd | Thunder

-1 | 3 hours ago

Me: proves you delusional

You: gets emotional about it

VampireOnHoyt | Spurs

3 | 3 hours ago

Mitch Johnson taping this to the back of the seat in front of Wemby on the team plane as we speak

Kitchen-Ad-5571

2 | 3 hours ago

the word valuable is no longer a part of the word mvp.

E_boiii | Thunder

1 | an hour ago

Why not this is a pretty accurate list?

DaUnikornLed | Thunder

2 | 3 hours ago

I definitely thought the 1st place votes would be a little more even, holy damn

mordenak

1 | 4 hours ago

I’m sure there will be absolutely no contention about these results.

/s

CurrentRoster | Wizards

2 | 3 hours ago

why the hell is jokic over wemby?

DistinctMains

4 | 2 hours ago

Maybe the unanimous DPOY shouldn’t let him drop 40 points with 13 assists and 0 turnovers.

Dazzling-Slide8288

3 | 3 hours ago

You know why.

radda | Spurs

-1 | 3 hours ago

Box score gazers

Kindly_Ad995

1 | 3 hours ago

Who the fuck are the two people that gave Cade 1st place votes? He has no argument that the top 4 guys don’t do better outside of certain people thinking the award needs to start going back to the Muricans

worldragedota | Thunder

1 | 3 hours ago

Kawhi deserves to be b2b MVP for what he did for our franchise

Jiklim | Knicks Tankwagon

1 | 2 hours ago

Media talked all year about Jaylen only for Cade to finish higher than him anyway lol

_19911118 | Raptors

1 | 2 hours ago

I think Wemby should have gotten more 2nd place votes for how dominant he is on the defensive end on top of his offensive output but either way Shai deserved the mvp.

yeahboo | Australia

1 | an hour ago

name and shame the voter who put shai at 4th lol

3s2ng | Lakers

1 | an hour ago

Whoever the 2 jokers are who gave Cade first-place votes should have their voting rights revoked next year.

here_for_the_lols | Thunder

1 | 39 minutes ago

Not even close, as expected by thunder fans and denied by absolutely everyone else

frogenema

1 | 36 minutes ago

OKC bench depth won the MVP for Shai. Disgrace how they gotta protect the league’s “integrity” by crediting an “individual” award to what is in reality a team which still makes a run with any plug-n-play player at SGA’s position and with OKC officiating.

Jokic, Wemby, Luka.. Any other names up there encapsulate the idea of an individual being MVP on a team.

SGA on OKC is a far far less difference making individual than the others. It’s a sham PR for the league to avoid directly commenting on the negative image brought about by floponomics and dirty officiating.

Educational_Ad_4528

0 | an hour ago

Respect to whoever gave Shai a 4th place vote

factorialite | Bulls

0 | 3 hours ago

Last one Wemby won’t win (or deserve to win) for a long fucking time.

Pleasestoplyiiing

-1 | an hour ago

Luka had a better playoffs than Jokic.

Emergency_Newt_2588

-3 | 3 hours ago

W to whoever voted SGA 3rd or 4th

Phaendsul

-5 | 3 hours ago

Wemby has only 7 more wins than Doncic over 64 games, worse stats across the board, and he’s still 3rd in MVP

apmrage | Spurs

1 | 3 hours ago

worse stats across the board

Hmmm…sike? I’d call you a box score watcher but you may not even do that well…

Phaendsul

-1 | 2 hours ago

33 / 25 point, ⁸⁄₃ assist, ³³⁄₃₁ eff

what the fuck he need to do more, dunk like jordan in space jam?

apmrage | Spurs

0 | an hour ago

worse stats across the board

Doesn’t across the board include (and MVP for that matter) non-offensive stats including ummm boards? Maybe you thought mvp was offensive player of the year? Also hilarious you dismiss 7 games in crowded ass field.

2wheelsondirt

-4 | 3 hours ago

Luka was not eligible so any votes he got are moot. I am sure he would have received som otherwise

This_Field_7872 | Hawks

-9 | 4 hours ago

Voting Jokic or Cade first place is kinda wild honestly

Germasianinvasion | Knicks

13 | 4 hours ago

Those two aren’t even close to each other in how absurd a first place vote is

This_Field_7872 | Hawks

-3 | 4 hours ago

They were one of four people to get a first place vote so not really

Knickstape08 | NYK

9 | 4 hours ago

If you think voting Jokic is wild then so is voting Wembanyama. The guy led the league in assists and rebounds and averaged 28 ppg.

This_Field_7872 | Hawks

-1 | 3 hours ago

I’ll be honest i don’t think any of them had a case over Shai so you can add him too

markpondrice

7 | 4 hours ago

Jokic did post the best BPM in NBA history this year and averaged a triple double.

honeybadger1105 | 76ers

2 | 3 hours ago

BPM is a shit stat, you really deadass going to say Jokic is an elite defender like BPM says

siphillis | Spurs

2 | 3 hours ago

The same stat that claims Jokić has more defensive impact than Wemby.

EPM, a better stat, has him a net neutral on defense, and Wemby ahead of him overall

Raven-19x | Spurs

0 | 3 hours ago

BPM is a meme stat

Waste-Milk2716

5 | 4 hours ago

Jokic is the only one deserving of a first-place vote besides SGA

This_Field_7872 | Hawks

-1 | 4 hours ago

Disagree

Frosty-Roof3124

3 | 4 hours ago

I mean Jokic’s numbers were better than Shai’s? I’m not saying Jokic should have won, (I had Shai), but him getting 10 first place votes is far from crazy lmao

This_Field_7872 | Hawks

0 | 3 hours ago

Lmao so if you had Shai then someone voting Jokic over Shai would also be against what you’re thinking? Between Jokics defensive season and the dip in form after he got back vs how much better the thunder were even without JDub, I’m surprised someone could get there with him, let alone 10 people

Frosty-Roof3124

4 | 3 hours ago

There’s literally been 1 unanimous MVP in NBA history. You thought this was going to be the second?

Jokic averaged 28/13/11 on 67 TS%. No one has ever had a season like he just had. It’s justified for him to get 10 votes like what

This_Field_7872 | Hawks

-1 | 3 hours ago

What does what i think will happen have anything to do with what I said. It is a 1,2,3,4 voting. If you, and most people on this sub, and in nba media, have said Shai should win, when Shai has been the front runner since the season started, and then turned in the second most efficient 30ppg season while leading his team to the best record, AGAIN, why would Jokic having a slightly better season then he did last year, when he lost, be worthy of a first place vote?

Frosty-Roof3124

1 | 3 hours ago

Shai has not been the front runner since the season started.

Jokic was the favorite in December, before he got hurt vs. Miami.

Why are you lying now? That is a blatant lie. Do you not understand what you are talking about?

This_Field_7872 | Hawks

0 | 3 hours ago

Opening night Draft kings had Shai +160 and Jokic +300. “Blatant lie” lol, go bother someone else. I don’t care if you don’t think it’s crazy to have Jokic first

Frosty-Roof3124

2 | 3 hours ago

Jokic was favored in December so when you said “Shai has been the front runner since the season started,” you lied

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