The teams running the league when they got him were Bucks and Nuggets. Tim was trying to build a team that could slow down Giannis and Jokic and he more or less achieved that even though the Nuggets have some of their own faults since the championship. He couldnt have foreseen the rapid rise of OKC and the Spurs at the time

Let’s be real though. Randle is the issue. He was useless most the season and the playoffs. 

Sounds like something the coaches and FO need to figure out. He’s on a reasonable contract afaik

Not many teams are lining up to give a big man with no offensive game 36 mil a year for 2 more seasons

Yea, with OKC and the Spurs at the top, teams have to change the way they build right now in the West. You can’t pay big money to players who can’t play against either of them.

Yeah respectfully idk if Gobert ever winning a championship as the starting center

i know it was with KAT but gobert was still great against Jokic in that series

His contract is pretty good actually imo. And I understand he struggles in most major series, but it’s not like I had the Wolves winning any of those major series. Like I expected the Wolves to lose in 5 to OKC last year and in 5 to the Spurs this year even if he did play well. And it helps those teams are phenomenal defensively to give the Wolves an excuse on his performances.

Positive, his contact isn’t as bad as people say it is, it’s the 50th largest in the league. 

Should be pretty easy to unload. Especially since teams hunting high picks want to win like 35 games. Getting Randle and letting him do Randle things seems like a pretty great way to do that.

I like this a lot. I also wanted him when before we got our picks back, and seemed to be leaving NY, but since we don’t have our pick next year that’d be a nice addition for the regular season.

It’s not that he decided to fuck the Nuggets in particular. It’s that without a healthy Aaron Gordon to contain him, he can do whatever the fuck he wants since Jokic is a traffic cone on defense and offers zero rim protection. It’s why he destroyed the Lakers and Warriors last year and did fuck all against OKC

The argument is moreso he should be the second option as the roster currently exists, not that its the ideal long term plan 

I legit had to do a double take cause I wasn’t used to seeing this kind of analysis when it comes to wolves especially in the last 24 hrs 😂

Yeah Jaden is a nice piece to chip in but you’ve got some serious issues if you’re relying on him to consistently carry the load offensively. I think he’s a good player defensively but they need to work through his fouling issues. He picks up waaay too many silly fouls that end up pulling him off the floor when the Twolves need him out there

Jaden fouled you for saying this

i left the sub after that post. team subs are bad but holy shit

The pathway for the Wolves to be a contender is for Jaden to be a 2nd option. If he can’t get to the level, the Wolves are screwed.

NAW is an awful playoff performer. Part of the reason the wolves lost in the WCF back to back was the bench scoring died and NAW was a big reason why.

He’s been poor in the playoffs b2b years. Not that he can’t get better, but it’s fine they moved on. Ayo is better than him imo

I think the playoffs have shown goberts issue. I love Gobert and think he’s a phenomenal defender. The Nuggets series showed how impactful he can be when he’s got the right pairing

On the other hand, the spurs series showed his flaws. He’s never great on offence, so if he then can’t defend well against the opposing team, what’s the point of having him out there?

If you think that trade was based on the KAT and Randle swap you really don’t understand why it was made in the first place.

KAT makes twice what Randle does

donte is worth it, we couldn’t keep kats contract.

Nah to be fair, a lot of Knicks fans were also upset about the trade in the moment. Some people thought it was a lose/lose trade

Nobody ever doubted that KAT was better than Randle. The new 2nd apron rules forced the hand for the wolves, they needed to shed salary. Even with the benefit of hindsight, I still think it was about as good a move as we could’ve made at the time. Three series wins in two years is pretty good by MN standards. Would we have been better with KAT? Absolutely. But we were financially painted into a corner and needed to do something.

Trade was based on the CBA not us actually wanting to trade Kat if we had it our way Kat is still on the roster

He’s big, long and French.

Incredibly raw as he only started playing at like 16. But 1st round pick, elite shot blocker and is being mentored by Rudy.

Best case scenario, he’s Rudy with bounce.

I dont think he’ll be as good defensively - frankly who is? But he looks nice. Just raw

See for yourself: https://www.reddit.com/r/NBA_Draft/comments/1lftux7/is_joan_beringer_the_most_intriguing_prospect_in/

He’ll still be 19 years old on opening night of next season, and he only started playing basketball in 2021, so he’s raw as fuck. But his physical tools are insane and he has a 4x DPOY mentoring him so I think his future looks good

It’s ironic you say that since Randle basically fell off super hard this season after his name came up in trade rumors 😂

It’ll be interesting to see Naz get a chance to start to see how he does in a full starting role.

Didn’t realize Shannon was 26, assumed he was a rookie or sophomore and graded him highly based on that. Knowing the details shines a different light on that performance.

In 5-6 years, he’s going be 31-32 years old. How is that too old for the future?

Ant becoming the Morant whisperer… I could see it because I believe Ant has make-everyone-feel-good leadership skills like Magic Johnson did… and I could see it failing because Ja gonna Ja. Subscribed.

Randle for sure feels fated to the Brooklyn Nets rehabilitation season.

The idea of Randle as the 3rd option is good, but it’s never going to happen. He pouts when he’s not in the game plan heavily and won’t embrace that role.

Ja on the wolves would be interesting

I don’t really want Ja next to Ant, but we need a reliable second scorer who can handle the ball and facilitate. We landed Beringer from that KAT trade, and he needs to play next year. We don’t need to get a big back. I might be on an island w this, but I also want them to fast track Zikarsky… 7’4 guy who can space the floor.

Idk if Ja even has that kind of value. Randle is still more valuable than Ja imo, at least you know he will play 65+ games each season. Ja has only played more than 65 games in one season, his rookie year. To me, Ja can barely command 2RP’s in trade value.

Bringing in Morant for Randle? What are we doing here

Don’t know for what though.

Randle is like the opposite of what LAC likes to have on their team.

Even if he brings like to no offense against the Spurs, he still has value on defense. Their guards were dunking all over us when he was off the court. The problem is that Jaden, Ayo, Julius, Shannon, and Naz combined for a total of 2 20-point game against the Spurs in 30 attempts. What teams in the modern NBA can win without any other scoring contributions outside of their star (who was hurt at that)? We have absolutely no playmaking outside of Ant especially when Randle is stuck in his own head.

They were 3rd defensively with him, 28 without him this season.

36.5 Mill a year to get a top 2 defender with a limited offensive bag is not an issue. The issue is they don’t have a #2 option, and the closest thing they have just put up a historically bad offensive playoff series.

I guarantee they regret trading Gobert if they go that route.

he’s on a 30m deal that’s clearly enough to build around, and it’s a 1+1 too

Moving forward and I think it’s true that they’re not contenders, but Gobert wasn’t the problem this year. He had 2 brutal games against the Spurs after being the best player in the first round. If they have healthy Donte and Ant, I don’t think it’s crazy to say they could have pushed the Spurs and this team isn’t afraid of the Thunder. Randle laying an egg in almost every playoff series as the number 2 offensive option is a much bigger issue.

Yea but with how good his defense is, someone will pay him either way

Divincenzo being out there makes it much tougher for the Spurs to double Ant without consequence. His absence was honestly a huge factor 

If anything they found out they had the depth to withstand his absence

They also need his scoring. He’s a reason they have depth and size. 

Reid is a type of player that you trade while he has trade value. So many obvious flaws with his game.

It’s not as simple as “trade the underperforming/overpaid players for better players”.

The rest of the league watches games too. You have to trade something good to get something good.