Julius Randle in Game 6 against the Spurs; 23 MINS, 3 PTS, 7 REB, 1 AST, 1/8FG, 0/2 3PM, 1/2FT, team low -34 while on the court
Safe to say Julius Randle’s on the trading block this offseason, and his playoff reputation tanks even further
Source:
https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore/_/gameId/401871157
Starting to think the Knicks won the KAT-Randle trade.
DDV been so great for the Wolves tho
Best +\- on the team tonight /s
Lmao the fact that this is barely even a joke
It was 100% true until both teams cleared their benches
The two parties are gonna have their presidential nominees by the time DDV plays again
Shit, two things to look forward to
It was the Kat-Donte trade, Randle was just salary filler
It’s really hard to replace a star in aggregate. DDV and a late first was never enough to bridge the gap between KAT and Randle. The team who gets the best player in a trade, wins the trade 99% of the time.
Whoever gets the best olayer wins the trade. New York has the best player.
The Apron won. Let’s not act like the Wolves were improving by trading KAT after a conference final run. They needed to get out of the 2nd Apron and they didn’t want to part with Gobert or Ant or McDaniels.
I would argue that their commitment to Gobert has set in motion all these problems, but that’s another can of worms.
I know it’s cope but I genuinely think this series looks very different with DDV on the floor
Yall shot like 30% from 3. Missing your best spot up shooter def hurts a lot
If the wolves had KAT instead this series would’ve been extremely close, KAT would’ve been a huge size mismatch and his ability to stretch the floor would’ve countered wemby’s defensive impact to a large part. That’s why the knicks match up well against the spurs.
Mitch is also a huge reason we match up well
Yeah mitch and aaron gordon are probably the 2 best defenders to guard wemby in single coverage. Both would be perennial all defense selections if they were healthy.
Robinson could be an all star if he could make free throws.
And not have a body made of glass. OG is similar.
Yeah those two make the Knicks and the nuggets the teams im the least thrilled about facing from a matchup standpoint
I didn’t consider our win against the Knicks in the regular season to be evidence of anything simply because Mitch wasn’t playing. That’s how much of a rebound nuisance he is.
I mean Champagnie breaking the franchise 3PM record is probably more of a reason to reconsider lol. He RUINED my day
Unrelated, but how crazy would it be if SAS beats OKC and then loses to the Knicks in the finals to replicate the end of IST?
Would be an insanely fun series
Oh god the east coast would burn to the ground
The Wolves also wouldn’t have Reid and would have had to trade away one of Gobert or McDaniels for scraps to reset their 2nd apron penalties if they had KAT on the roster. They were looking at $100m+ tax bill if they kept the roster together and zero chance they were going to do that. People keep acting like just swapping back Randle/DDV for KAT would have left the team intact and the opposite is true.
i’m pretty sure they wouldn’t have been able to do the ayo trade either. people forget how rough this team looked when they had to rely on heavy mike conley minutes at the beginning of the season, and that was even with donte. assuming they still even manage to make it to the 6th seed with that backcourt i don’t think they’d have made it past denver after ant’s injury with their backcourt options being conley, rob dillingham and bones hyland.
Not to mention they also got the pick that turned into Beringer.
It’s early and he’s raw as hell, but I’m super excited by what I’ve seen and he might be the starting center of the future.
people really forget that the entire knicks fandom were ready to oust Kat in the first round of the playoffs because of his Defense. LOL
I have an aquaintence who’s a Knicks fan and he is absolutely insufferable with how much of a petulant bandwagoner is his for KAT. All I heard from him for the majority of the season was how KAT and Mike brown were terrorists and this and that. Now he won’t stop talking like KAT is a hall of famer.
Nobody seems to understand the wolves were built in a pre apron era and got absolutely raked by the apron once it was implimented. It’s kind of a miracle they’ve been able to compete at all.
People don’t understand contracts, this team would be worse with KAT
We wouldn’t have had Naz or Ayo though they were key this series
The only way the wolves could’ve kept KAT is if they destroyed the rest of the roster. They weren’t going to pay the tax for a 3rd consecutive year under any circumstance.
Well, we’ll hopefully get to see that matchup in the finals, god willing
They went to the WCF and lost because Luka went super saiyan then decided nah, kat aint worth the 2nd apron tax. You’re so right about how much closer this series is with Kat.
absolute travesty
People that think that don’t understand the salary cap
Yeah, even just saying “2nd apron tax” is crazy talk.
As we know, real penalty of the 2nd apron is that it zaps away roster flexibility. It’s not actually about the tax.
If we kept KAT people would be making fun of us paying top 10 money for KAT and still losing. I don’t get how people think this team with KAT instead of Donte Randle Naz and Ayo would be better
Beringer is gonna have to develop into French Giannis for us to win that back
Both won it, this is so reactionary. Wolves desperately needed to get off that salary
Wolves got Donte and a pick that turned into Beringer, so there’s some optimism.
Nah, Wolves had to for salary purposes. They might not be a playoff team with Ant, Kat, and nobody else
Starting to think? That was known immediately.
Everyone was already saying that as it happened.
Then Randle had a good series against the Nuggets and peopel were calling him the second coming to Jesus.
Guys, it was just a match up advantage. Randle was never the solution. With that said, the Wolves were going nowhere with KAT and Gobert anyway.
I don’t think KAT would change his mindset if he was not on the Knicks and even then, I still don’t trust him and expect him to go back to weak mental habits when the Knicks struggle.
Randle didn’t have a good series against the nuggets though? People said this last year when he carried during rounds 1 and 2
It’s a shame the luka trade happened because I want to call the Kat/Randle trade the dumbest one in recent memory where you know it was bad the moment it was announced. Second will have to do though.
Trade the franchise cornerstone for years because you want to get under the second apron and now watching him go to two consecutive ECF while you sit at home. But hey, at least you didnt have to pay tax.
They would have lost jaden and naz and not been able to sign anyone decent if they didnt get rid of one of their big contracts. The new CBA came at the worst time for the wolves.
People gonna say we shoulda traded rudy in reply but I think the wolves would still have been a flawed team either way, just different flaws (and I think because of KATs contract we probably wouldnt not have been able to afford naz still).
But I do miss him a lot and it sucks that he got traded. And even through his bad games I dont think he ever disappeared entirely like some of the wolves players did today… Just a rough way to cap off a playoff run that had some good highs.
Wolves went to the WCF last year, this is way exaggerated here. KAT was a ghost against Dallas and it made sense to create some more cap space, just not to use it on Randle but they’ve still won three playoff series, far from the second worst trade in recent memory lmao
Randle was a beast against the Warriors last season.
25 ppg and 7 assists on 53% shooting.
Didn’t let the Warriors get to game 6 and bring Curry back
Wolves went to one WCF and got within 2 games of another with Edwards playing hurt and down their best spot up 3pt spot up shooter. Not like there’s a major difference there. Now if the Knicks win a title, then it looks pretty bad.
Wolves were looking at $100M+ in tax if they tried to keep the roster together, zero chance that was happening. With that context, the trade was about the best possible outcome.
Man we need a 2nd option and a floor general/playmaker.
Yeah not having a true starting pg was a problem the whole year
If only Conley were 10 years younger
If memphis mike was with us right now, we would be in the finals damn
I don’t think that’s a given, but it certainly bring y’all to the level of OKC and the Spurs
Even mountain Mike with Utah that first couple seasons would have been enough
Rob Dillingham being a bust set the Wolves back
doubly when you realize it was the Spurs who traded him to the Wolves and then used the Wolves pick to help get Fox.
You wanna step outside pal ?
Ayo was distributing well
He isn’t a true pg
Who is at this point
Right lol. There aren’t many true PGs in this era. That type of PG is gone tbh
Jrue holiday won 2 chips on 2 different teams as a starting pg pretty recent
Please Rubio, come back.
I feel that brother 😢
lebron james is the answer
“I’m taking my talents to the land of 10,000 lakes”
“I’ve always wanted to be a laker.”
I’m taking my talents to North Lakes.
Not one, not two, not three
Unironically this would be amazing. Just slot LeBron into Randle’s spot and this team is probably Finals bound. Ant, DiVicenzo/Dosunmu, McDaniels, LeBron, and Gobert is an incredible starting 5, with Naz coming off the bench? It won’t happen, but I wish it would.
I thought they should’ve went after Trae young. They can hide his defense and he brings playmaking that they need.
they don’t wanna pay for trae otherwise they woulda kept KAT i think
Sounds like the Pistons
Oh boy do I have something for you 😭
James Harden
Welcome to the club. Well take yourself for one isaiah stuart, one Ron Holland and a few picks.
Darius Garland could be good
Nobody quits as hard or as loudly when a game isn’t going their way as Julius Randle
And that’s why I can’t stand watching him. Other guys contribute in other areas and keep their head straight. Randle is a wet blanket and pouts and sulks and gives noticeably less effort.
He should be a tank commander, get his 22 points on 18 shots, make his money and enjoy his yearly early offseason.
If Julius Randle was told by a fortune teller before this game that to win the NBA finals he had to get minimum 10 rebounds and 10 assists in every game and it would guarantee a victory, he would still try to shoot the ball 75% of the time he had it. He doesn’t give a fuck what the conditions of the game are, he wants his turn.
To me it looked like refs were allowing the Spurs to play him especially physical, and instead of fighting through that he just kinda got frustrated and gave up.
And yea I can see how that would be demoralizing but to get only get 3 pts is crazy.
Damn seems like he hasn’t changed much since NY
His body is so tense at all times. Truly built like a beyblade.
beyblades gotta keep spinning or they get unstable
That’s what made him such a polarizing player amongst Knicks fans here. When he was on, he was SO on and would single-handedly carry us to wins. When he wasn’t on though, he’d single-handedly cost us games through a sheer lack of effort on both ends.
Dubious handle
I’ll never not hear it
He’ll bounce back in game 7
Game 9*
Game 3
Wolves need to trade him for a bag of Cheetos
Randle is legit unplayable against both the Spurs and OKC lol
That alone makes him completely useless to any West hopeful over the next half-decade
Send him back to the Knicks
And with some luck find a loophole he must play in the finals
Randle and Brunson can’t coexist. Randle is the biggest ball-stopper there is. The Knicks have taken the ball away from Brunson for stretches to get more motion. They wouldn’t be able to do that w/ Randle in their lineup
It’s kind of hilarious though he should theoretically be an excellent matchup into chet / wemby like he should be able to be super physical with them and given the lower center of gravity be able to do a bit of bully ball and wear them down. Reality doesn’t work that way though I guess
I haven’t watched much Wolves during the regular season so I was legit worried, because smaller, physical 4/5s are the archetype that give Wemby the most trouble.
Guess I shouldn’t have been worried at all. Sucks for Wolves fans though, if there’s any fanbase that deserves success they’re tied with Kings and Pelicans fans.
Tbf this is the most successful era of our franchise by far lol. Obviously I want the chip but our present and our future look exponentially brighter than those 2 teams
Even just cutting him would be addition by subtraction.
Then the team can play fast like they’re so obviously dying to.
i remember early on in the regular season people were debating whether randle or lebron is better lmfao if lebron swapped places with randle wolves wouldve won the series today
Randle is a lottery. He wakes up one day and he looks like LeBron; two days later he looks like Anthony Bennett.
Or even worse. He can have a great season, then a horrible season. Everybody thinks he is washed, trash… No, the next season he looks like a 1st or 2nd option.
I still don’t understand him
Below average shooter with a very high variance and poor decision making. He can typically make up for bad shooting by bullying his way to the rim, but Spores completely took that away. That’s all there is to it.
High variance can explain playoff risers and droppers, not multi season level variance Randle has had.
Think you nailed it. Limited game, but can be effective, just not against good teams (which are playoff teams), and especially when Wemby erases stuff within 15’ of rim.
Spores?
Yeah. Spores vs Chunder in the conference finals after defeating the Log Dogs and Fakers.
He needs to be surrounded by good guards, that’s all it is. He was great with d rose and Brunson on the Knicks for a year each, bad every other year. Seems like Donte getting hurt was the catalyst for his bad play in the playoffs this year.
That’s because he is an undersized non athletic player in the 4-1, 5 out NBA.
He is too small to be a rim protector and not athletic enough to be able to chase and defend wings on the perimeter.
He is big and strong enough to bully to e smaller players in the post, he also have the proper low post offensive skills with a decent jumper to punish some counters but he is just slow footed so he sucks on D.
On top of that, he just doesn’t care about D.
So when the match ups are favourable, ex: Nuggets who don’t have a rim protector, he will feast.
But playing against a team that can defend the paint or force him to only take jumpers, he is useless.
His contract is too big to have him come off the bench.
He would have been a good 4 about 15 years ago but not in this era.
He is the modern day Al Jefferson.
When I was reading this I was like god damn thay sounds like Al Jefferson!
Then I got to the end lol spot on
Hes fucking horrible poor ant
So many “stars” have gotten exposed like crazy in this playoffs.
Sengun, Randle, Duren, Reeves, you can go on and on.
Maybe it’s time we start defining what a “star” actually is, there’s way less than stats seem to show
Ngl reaves doesn’t deserve to be part of this list i think he played better than them by quite a bit
Also played hurt in the postseason
Nobody calling Ju a star this season
First half of the season he looked like a potential all star, then he regressed hard.
This is such a bad take lol. Randle has always been pretty poor in the playoffs, this isn’t something that just happened. Reaves had just came back from being injured, his last three games he averaged 25 on good efficiency. Sengun has been bad in the playoffs. This isn’t something new. Duren, absolutely. But half your list are known playoff droppers lol.
Tbf in 2021 he had a bunch of scrubs as his teammates and 2023 he was injured. I was expecting him to prove haters wrong before JJJ took him out in January 2024. But yeah this playoffs was atrocious.
Jamal Murray had a really bad playoffs and was a huge reason the nuggets offense plummeted
AR rushing back after missing multiple weeks getting lumped in with underperformers? Nah, that’s a terrible take. Can you name some players that missed a significant amount of time just prior to the playoffs and came back without missing a step? I’ll wait.
i mean reaves played ok, he had some bad games but hes also coming back early from an injury and it was against Thunders stifling defense and missing Luka
Reaves only fits on this list if you go by Reddit narratives. Completely embarrassing
This is what normally happens
They called this dude the Wemby stopper before this series
Everyone the wemby stopper till its time to stop wemby
They used to say that about Jokic then Gobert massacred my boy
Only a Kardashian might be able to stop Wemby at this point.
Don’t you dare put that out into the universe.
Tbf Wemby’s numbers when guarded by Randle this series were:
9.1 PTS / 75 on 48.9% TS in 74 possessions
His isolation defence against Wemby was the only positive thing he did this series
He stopped Wemby from having to exert himself in the 4Q because the game was over long before then.
Who?
How on earth did the wolves even take 2 games
Game 1 loss had Wemby miss all he 3s and still came down to a missed 3 at the buzzer. Game 4 Wemby ejection and spurs young players getting outplayed by Ant being clutch.
Wemby got ejected from one and forgot how to shoot for the other.
He gets overshadowed by Harden but he might be the biggest playoff seller in the NBA
Meanwhile mitchell and his -25 today standing in the corner thanking the gods that people like you blame harden
he’s also lucky duren has had such a big drop off this playoffs and is getting so much attention, because i think he’s easily been the other biggest seller this post season.
He’s not even close to the player Harden is so that’s not a fair comparison
Mitchell selling harder than harden
B-but he beat the Warriors without Steph and a Lakers team starting Jaxson Hayes 🥴
Only cause we know how ridiculous Harden can be when he’s on & he can still pass, so the playoff drop off is baffling.. Randle’s game is just always ugly
Comparing harden to Randle is so ridiculous. Harden is an mvp, has made the playoffs every single year of his career, and you would struggle to name three great series for him. Randle was good in the playoffs just last year against both the Lakers and the warriors.
Wolvea fans would be elated if Harden was playing instead of Randle this series.
They should make a reverse lottery where whatever team wins the chip gets Randle as a handicap
Ulius Ranle: the reverse Uno card of the NBA
Receive ball. Head down. Drive.
Randle is exactly who we all thought he was. He had a good series against the lakers who were tiny, the hurt warriors and some okay regular season games. Its time to move on, the dynasty might not start after you but it definitely isnt starting with you.
Damn, I said the exact thing last year. Beat up on 2 small teams (and even then he was still super sloppy and just fortunate his lost balls found his teammates) and came back to Earth vs the Thunder. But everyone was singing his praises like he was finally turned the corner for the playoffs.
If he’s still on the Timberwolves at the beginning of next season I’ll absolutely lose it
After this performance, how do you think you could possibly trade him?!
Wolves would have to attach other assets to move him this offseason. Probably stuck with him until next summer when his contract will be expiring.
I don’t remember the exact framework but trill bro dude on YKB suggested a Randle-PG trade if the new sixers gm wants to soft blow it up and get off that contract
I see Garland being available if the Clippers take a guard
As a wolves hater, I love this idea
We want Ayo and a first. Plus you have to take Dillingham back
open shot, the fate of the universe on the line, the Martians have the death beam pointed at earth, you better hit it, I DON’T WANT RANDLE.
Man, I’ll always have love for Randle and hoped he turned the page on his playoff production last year but he was just genuinely awful this series and honestly a lot of the Denver series as well. Sad to see but it just doesnt seem like hes gonna be a winning player in Minnesota
In Minnesota?
Lol bull in a China shop Randle aka dubious handles was NEVER a winning player anywhere.
Facts, Randle is the epitome of a losing player. Everything good he did in NY was exclusively during the regular season.
I can’t believe we got KAT for Randle and Divo.
Randle is fucking cheeks
is he the worst second option among the teams in the west who are serious about competing
Why stop there. He’s the worst second option among the top teams across both conferences.
That’s where people have it wrong. He’s not a second option. It’s been proven time and time again
Julius Randle, you are now a Milwaukee Buck!
This is just who he is as a player. He needs to be in a team with no expectations of anything
I love Randle because he helped changed the culture over here, and I think he was unfairly hated a lot of the time.
On the other hand, no refunds.
the things he was hated on for have persisted, if not increased, on a different team, different coach, different teammates. how was it “unfair”?
Because there was a sample size of only two postseasons, one of which he played through injury in.
when you add in all the regular seasons too, clear patterns emerge. turnovers, and when his shot isn’t falling, and body language and checked out on d.
I hate him. I truly hate him.
Randle is such a sports head case.
He has such bad body language under any type of adversity and just stops trying at some point, lol. He just settles so much.
Prototype front runner type player.
Man what happened to him? He was arguably their best player last playoffs.
He can bully smaller teams and at least get to the rim. Spores and Chunder don’t give up easy drives and have excellent rim protection, so Randle becomes a jump shooter with extreme shot variance.
Spurs secret agent
He was SO bad
Honestly the spurs best player
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I once saw Randle described as a top tier “No no no no YES!” player. Unfortunately, he’s also a top tier “No no no NOOOO” player
Jfc
Lakers want him back?
lol
No thanks lmao. I dont even know who tf they can get this off season
lol ya they’re kinda screwed and the Knicks clearly won that trade, especially with the unfortunate injury to Donte
Randle’s issue is his high is really high but wow are his lows low. And when it’s going bad he gets so in his head he moped, and checks out effort wise because he’s so upset with himself.
He probably should be seeing a sports psychiatrist regularly. Because he funk becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. And makes him hard to rely on for long stretches.
He’s so fucking bad
That statline is so horrid I thought 23/3/7 was his PRA
Love Randle’s personality but Jesus Christ he’s hard to watch on the court.
Trading block for what? He’s got 2 years on his deal. The price is not that bad, but if you don’t attach assets (which the Wolves don’t have) you’re not really getting a better player.
Do you wanna swap him for Jordan Poole?
dubious handles
another masterpice of a playoff vanishing act by dubious handle.
Get this bum off my team please. He was ass this whole playoffs
Same amount of fouls as points 🔥
The commentators and crowd were so hyped by those 3 points as well
Man he sucks
Better find a trade partner
And hope they were unable to watch Prime Video
WORST ALL STAR EVER
KEN CARSON WAS RIGHT