That would’ve been the weakest way to end the game. Even for a regular season game it would’ve sucked.

Let the players decide in OT vs a random boom boom like that

You also shouldn’t win or lose a playoff game on something like that when teams have been beating the shit out of each other for 47:56.

Yeah but then Pistons fans would have to accept the fact their team couldn’t make a shot to save their lives down the stretch. Much easier to just cry and blame Tony Brothers.

This call in particular was a good no call but the entire game just felt really weird from an officiating standpoint

I am not convinced. I dont think Thompson ball controls were loose, he seemed to have control of the ball. Even if that first contact was accidental loose ball contact then everything after that was 100% foul. Lets be honest if this incident happened like 30 seconds earlier it would had been foul.

This series has been a really tense watch. The discourse around it has been absolute garbage. Stoked to have great competition. But jeez does it bring out the idiots in the subs.

I don’t think it would have been as bad if the dumb commentators didn’t also start questioning if it was a foul. It was a clear no call as both players moved towards a loose ball.

Exactly

Our team had the game in the bag and choked

This isn’t new, they did the same in game 3 too

No excuses, real fans know what’s up

Came down to execution and shot making and the Cavs were the better team and deserved to win that game

It’s easier for some to blame the refs than Cade for his turnovers, others for bad shots, etc

End of discussion

Hey, glad I’m not the only one who had to mute their team’s sub because it’s annoying/sad

Yup. Every game thus far has been pretty similar in its overall structure.

Close by the end but the home team goes on a run late to take a bigger lead to make the game not look as close as it was. The only difference between game 5 and the first 4 was that the Pistons blew said lead.

nah their subreddit is still whining about that call and ignoring the fact they blew a 9 point lead with 2:40 left lmao

Guess you haven’t been to their sub lol

Definitely have not accepted it

People hate all the NBA whistles and then wanted the game to end on a totally inconsequential bump 70 feet from the hoop as time expired

Their last possession in regulation for the win was a complete cluster. They were lucky Cleveland didn’t actually win it without the OT after that possession to be fair.

Drake’s Ghostwriter has entered the chat

Like I love Breen and Legs as a duo, but they did not handle it well

This is often the case. There’s been several times where the initial reaction significantly influences the discourse and you can tell.

First impressions are important. How something is presented to you often determines what you think.

I thought this was weird too. They were so confident about it being a foul and I remember thinking “idk that looked like just an inconvenient tangling of legs.”

But the other component was Bickerstaff throwing a fit about it during and after the game. Hell, 24 year old Daniss Jenkins had far more humility in his post presser when discussing why they lost that game.

ts pissed me off as well.

The commentators fucking with people’s perspective is nothing new, half the shit this sub complains about came from JVG and Mark Jackson

Especially using the word “trip” repeatedly, which almost always has a connotation of intentionality.

Totally agree. Legs in particular kept restating his opinion that it was a foul definitely and yes, I know that’s literally what he is paid to do but I just don’t know how you watch it in slow mo and see an obvious foul on Allen. It seemed like a strange hill to die on and .. well…RIP I guess lol

It’s the framing effect, well known in psychology

The commentators have been certified cheeks the entire playoffs.

Agreed, Pistons lost because they threw a 8 point lead with 3 minutes not because Tony Brothers didn’t bail them out with a foul call

To want the game to be decided by that call is insane especially considering there was no time on the clock and Ausar is not launching that thing 85 feet to win it.

I’m waiting for the first 46 minute report

huge disagree, there are plenty of massive missed calls that get called out here

Definitely not, they’re pretty much always accurate.

It didn’t even look bad tbh, it only looked bad with the commentary making it like that.

Like, you hear the people who didn’t hear the commentary whether they were watching in bars or had it on mute for various reasons and they were all generally confused as to the controversy.

Bickerstaff will never stop bitching 

They take after their coach

so what youre saying is pistons fans do not have 2 eyes

Please be nice to Mike Breen and Tim Legler, they are Reddit favorites

Edit: Breen has four eyes, what’s Tim’s excuse?

Well, virtually everyone who wasn’t already influenced by the commentary last night that saw the instant replay on the sub today thought it was either a good no-call or a foul on Thompson.

The only people watching that on close up replay thinking it was still a foul on Allen are biased Piston fans and people trying to create content.

I mean, I heard one media guy say it was a foul on Allen because he was behind Thompson. Um, yeah because Thompson stiff-armed him out of the way first lol.

It’s exhausting how people always feel the need to correct and make fun of fanbases for complaining about calls as if their fanbase wouldn’t do the exact same thing.

Nah, the refs cost my team that game (if you look at my flair, you know the one) and I know I’m 100% correct.

That’s because many of them know it wasn’t a foul and don’t care, and the ones that think it was a foul on Allen have to wait for someone to read this for them.

If you think it was a foul on Allen then an L2M report isn’t gonna change your mind. It’s not like this sub has ever accepted an L2M report where the consensus is they’ve got it wrong.

I agree, go Cavs

The only reasonable response

Hey hard fouls only right

I agree, go Cavs.

It’s reaction pieces like that which make me really think they just want to stoke emotions and bogus storylines over good takes and correct calls

I mean… Best way to get engagement is drama.

Detroit fans in general do this

Are you a bot?

I was lowk pissed at all the Cavs fans acting like Ausar’s block wasn’t clean. That was an amazing block and that kind of play is the reason Ausar is going to win a DPOY award in his career. It was not a foul on Mitchell, and it was not a tripping foul.

It’s nice that for once they didn’t call mutual contact as a foul on either whichever guy staggered less, and/or whichever guy touched the ball 1/10th of a second later.

That’s actually a reasonable speculation, because the refs are programmed to call fouls when players fall, regardless of cause.

Tier 1 officiating, if you will.

I can’t believe they actually wanted free throws off that to decide the game. F*cking hilarious

The refs talk to the “Replay Center”, but the Crew Chief makes the final determination.

I wonder why they don’t? Because the call was bullshit.

Ausar trips himself before Allen’s foot touches him.

Ausar’s “two completed dribbles” were him touching the ball, not controlling it.

Ausar got there first because he pushed Allen’s arm away.

And by the way, Ausar pushing Allen sent him off balance, causing his eventual “trip” of an already falling Ausar.

If you want a foul called there, the first one that occurred was on Thomson.

Yall lost the game way before that bro, suck it up champ lmao

They almost never call fouls on this type of play no matter the game situation, so no this isn’t an “instant whistle”

Like, take your blinders off, https://imgur.com/a/SDqeS7f

Both feet are in the air while it’s a loose ball, before anyone touches it, and ausar initiates all contact on the play.