This is a terrible, half baked idea that will result in one or two teams entering a tailspin they can’t recover from.

Zach Lavine is about to be the hottest player on the market now. Getting a team to win about 35 games is the sweet spot now I guess.

That ability to strip picks looms ominously. How loaded is that weapon?

I still can’t believe this is getting passed immediately. You would think they would have to wait 6-8 years for all the picks that already got traded to convey.

You do this type of drastic rule change in fantasy football and it would take at least 2 years before owners would allow it. We are talking about a multi billionaire league lol like wtf

Good thing the back to contention Spurs got to egregiosly tank for three straight top 4 picks right before it becomes impossible for any other rebuilding team to replicate that luck

Danny Ainge: “Welllllll…. time for me to be hitting the old dusty trail 🤠“

The only NBA team fanbase that doesn’t give a fuck about this new idea is probably the Sacramento Kings fans.

Because no matter who they get, their GMs always fuck it up.

Yuck

all this work to accomplish nothing

I’m thrilled my Jazz got to tank the final year of these current rules to get Peterson before these new rules kick in, when the Jazz won’t tank again for the foreseeable future

Makes things even worse for perpetually awful teams like Sacramento and Brooklyn

It’s such a big overreaction

while this does fix tanking it also ensures the bottom of the league stays there lol

Nothing says we think teams are too bad than making bad teams even worse!

Oh yeah, and we’re going to add another 2 bad teams here soon!

I just don’t understand this proposal at all.

Yes it stops the incentive to drop down to a 15-20 win team, but if you think you’re flat odds are now discouraging teams from being intentionally bad, why go further and actually hurt teams that are just bad? And remove their one major opportunity to get better?

If the NBA is so fixated on flattened odds (which I don’t agree), and still wanted 3-2-1, just making 3 for all bottom 10-14 teams (maybe also include play-in losers), 2 for teams ¹⁰⁄₁₄-18 (make play-in, but lose first round), and 1 for 18-22 (other 1st round losers).

No owner is going to allow their team to intentionally lose a play-in game, or lose a 1st round series, and forego the extra income from playoff revenue. I feel that is where you have to draw the line between lottery/not.

Is this because of betting and partnerships? Tanking has been around for a long time. 

Oh boy, I sure am glad they made it way harder to rebuild with way more randomness involved. This was definitely nessecarry to stop the four or so teams that tank every year. 

This is such a shitty ass change oh my god.

There’s no way that this will have unintended consequences, like punishing bad teams that aren’t tanking and need those high picks.

This is a huge swing and a miss from Silver. That tanking narrative just caught fire in the media cycle for a little while and he overreacted IMO.

The people who think this is bad for the league are morons who don’t know they are morons.

Just because the bottom 3 teams have lower odds to win the lottery doesn’t mean they won’t ever win the lottery.

This will get rid of tanking as we know it. There were 8 teams this year that were actively losing games for at least 25% of the season (Washington, Utah, Memphis, Dallas, Kings, Nets, Pacers, Bulls).

I really don’t get the hate for this. It’s not perfect but better than we have right now.

Things had to change. The regular season was borderline useless post all star break. The regular season has to mean something. Teams just have to get better at scouting/roster construction. It’s completely possible with how teams will continue to be broken up by the new cap system when it comes to pay guys.

Everyone wants to fix tanking, then once the league takes action people start crying for the shitty teams. Bad teams should focus on winning instead of crossing their fingers for a top draft pick. No more hitting the lottery for incompetence.

Why would they need to fine teams for tanking and take away picks if being bad doesn’t get you better lottery odds?

Why not just do that part and make it so teams that are not bad on purpose don’t stay bad forever?

It might be interesting seeing coaches get fired for not getting their team out of the bottom 3 records

Honestly I think this change will be fun. Games between two teams who would usually be tanking would actually be competitive now. We get an update to the tanking meta to instead be something else which will be fresh.

I do think a lot of teams will just do what they do now and just try at the beginning of the season then sandbag at the end, but now it’s less critical to reach the very bottom so it’s easier to reach that threshold.

This also makes good GMs have more value. Only thing that kinda sucks though is that spurs and okc (secretly nets a bit too) kinda grabbed everyone’s picks already.

Adam silver is the dumbest commissioner of all time.

Fix flopping you cowards. that’s the real problem

This is an amazing idea and will make the league so much more watchable

I actually love both of the ideas. Silver having the power to strip picks should be able to kill blatant and awful tanking and I love the 3-2-1 idea that is the closest thing to relegation we’ll have in American sports.

Bottom-3 teams should not get rewarded and it’s not like they’re at that much of a disadvantage and can’t rebuild properly with the right process.

The officiating issue is such a bigger factor in the league being unwatchable.

Nets vs Griz games about to be the most competitive games next season

The battle for 4th spot will be epic

Cant wait to see how teams game this system.

Atrocious. Wow. You are actually punished for being a worse team lmao

Jazz owner

Alright guys this year we can win more games, but not TOO many games.

Love this. The tanking got to a disgusting place over the years.

What’s funny is to make the draft in exact order of record like the NFL and even if a team gets 1-3 top 5 picks in a 3 years span, they won’t be had for long. It should be record based. No team is going to tank infinitely for 5 top 3 picks in a row

Just tie revenue sharing to wins. That’s the only way to get teams to put out a better product.

Throwing games should lose draft picks

Silver already had the ability to do it this season, just too much of a coward. Should have set one final warning at ASB.

This is the gambling companies’ fault. Tanking wasn’t this big of a deal until teams started fucking with parlays in March to increase their chances of winning the lottery

i don’t understand wtf is wrong with tanking. it’s only like 4 teams in the whole league ever egregiously tanking. let them!!

Theres a lot of pressure to get this year’s draft pick right for the perennial garbage teams, else it’s all down hill from here.

What if you’re not tanking, but you just actually suck?

I feel like the solution was just giving Silver the power to strip them of their picks. You get 2 warnings (in which you can justify why guys werent playing to rescind). Any egrigious shit, Silver gets to tell them stop it or we’re taking the pick and thats it. Bad teams get to be bad teams without lesser odds.

The answer is simple. Incentivize winning, not losing. Trying to police how teams are losing is going to create more problems than the current system.

To me, lets just flatten the odds from 1 to 14. All those teams will benefit from a top pick anyway.

But to be honest, the draft now is good. I think teams just misunderstood the risk reward analysis of tanking. Dropping a season for a marginal increase in chances of landing a top 4 is asinine in my opinion.

Maybe I’m not seeing the forest for the trees but the best anti tanking model I’ve seen is what I’d call the “best of the worst” model. Basically once you are mathematically eliminated from the playoffs you start collecting points (or wins) for the draft, team with the most points/wins gets the first pick.

I feel the lottery systems punishes bad teams by pushing them back in the draft while potentially rewarding good teams that had a bad record due to injuries.

Tank commanders will be grinding against each other like it’s the battle of Kursk. For the league.

See my thing is, why not JUST have the stipulation in this proposal that the league can strip away picks/move down your odds if you are tanking, without having to have a whole new lottery that is going to fuck over a good amount of teams that did nothing wrong and tears apart a good amount of the competitive fabric of our league? Adam Silver not understanding simple solutions to simple problems and instead doing these crazy showy “fixes” is just completely fucking up the league and making it a joke compared to other sports leagues.

Given the thunders current situation with frp, I approve.

They should’ve done a dummy test with this year’s draft to see how it turned out. This is also such a stupid idea. The worst teams are truly gonna suck forever now. Damn.

Teams will just get creative with trying to hover around 4th worst instead lol

What is to stop teams from “tanking” for the 4-10 spots… ??

The real solution is having some sort of league bonuses tied to winning games

I’m not against the odds changing but it will never not be hilarious to me that the game people point to as the Jazz blatantly tanking is the Heat game that they won.

They should re-run this years lottery with the new rules

NBA stays overthinking this shit.

If teams can rank and get a star they stop tanking.

If they tank and still suck they’re still tanking.