Hopefully they get sent down to gleague

The Tony Bros are back baby!

Supposed to be Tony’s brothers

Mike and Dan Tony

If you watch for it it’s easy to see why too - no matter how annoying his calls are he’s still willing to hear the players out and then give them an explanation back.

The ones the players hate are the ones that take shit personally and won’t bother to listen/explain themselves.

“Who them hoes” -Tony Brothers

Not gonna lie I’ve literally only heard players say bad things about him.

So ain’t heard any of jeff teagues stories about him?

definitely not lol

And the reason casuals know him by name? Because he often gets the big games, because he’s good. But they will see those one or two bad calls that game and immediately say “wow the refs aren’t perfect they should be fined!”

Zach zarba might be the best ref in the NBA

And James Williams. Hell nah

The Redditors you are referring to would be quite upset if only they could read.

Eh, it makes sense that these teams experience them 82 times a year and if the best ones make it to the playoffs, people are going to mad about the ones in games they care about.

If anything it shows a systematic issue if the best ones still are pretty bad. We’ve had multiple players complain openly about refs this playoffs only so I’m not sure how that means people don’t know shit.

Whoa that’s a lie I knew both Jenna’s were terrible.

This is 100% the reason why

So there are even worse refs than the ones we deal with lol

Same tier as JT Orr who flat out told Lakers players last year that “he’d talk to anyone but Luka.” It seems to be a steep drop off from Tier 1 to Tier 2.

Silver told the PA to put him there as it would create the least controversy lol. Just try to blend him in.

He’s not popular with players like Tony brothers or hed be in tier 1. Most players don’t care that he’s feuding with Chris Paul especially these days. 

But even back then, like whatever team Chris Paul was facing would probably rate Scott foster highly. It’s like joey Crawford and his anger issues, most players just care that he calls fouls or nonfouls correctly. even if he t’s up players for arguing, they prefer it over some ref that’s constantly wrong or inconsistent.

Goebbels

Worst ref in the league for my money

It’s either her or John Goble lol that dude is an ultra dickhead

she is atrocious

tier 3 has the “i watch the regular season religiously and have seen how bad it gets” shit refs

john goble, tyler ford, natalie sago all F tier

sha’rae mitchell pisses me off too sometimes

Sago and Goble being T3 definitely gives the list credibility.

It’s Jenna Schroeder, she’s so awful she has made Shai argue with her. The only time I have seen Shai gripe to an official whole play was still going on, and makes him look like Luka. That’s how horrific she is. The thing is that it’s happen in 3-4 Thunder games this year. She was so bad I knew she wasn’t going to get assigned to the playoffs, because she was so bad in the games I seen her in.

consistency and respect, the bottom feeders are probably dickheads for no reason and poorly communicate their reasoning behind their calls

Bro fuck Tyler Ford!

Moyer-Gleich would get my vote too. 

She needs her own tier, she’s a special type of clown

Natalie Sago

She has to be in contention for the worst ref in the league, or at least worst ref amongst the veteran refs. She’s been there for years and still sucks.

Neither do the iother refs a lot of the time. It’s a good old boy netowrk. There is an absurd number of refs that all ceoim from like a 20 mile radius of one town. Can’t reacll which one. But basically, they all know the same people.

He got hurt earlier this season, and I have not seen him since. I’m guessing he is still recovering, and since playoff assignments are based on regular season grades, he wouldn’t be on the list even if he is fully healthy.

A lot of good that did as the results got leaked and reported on this year.

You also of the opinion that you can post whatever you want on public facing social media without workplace reprecussions in a professional environment? Sure, you could post some shit that your boss doesn’t like on the internet, but they can also definitely just terminate you if it’s egregious enough. If the NBA doesn’t like this they absolutely have the power to disallow it just like the NFL did.

I like the first two. Not Foster though.

Don’t think they know less than fans (unlike the user you’re replying to), but players are going to be biased with their interpersonal relationships. A ref that communicates/is funny/etc is going to score better than one that doesn’t. I don’t think Che Flores should be in tier 3 from what I’ve seen, but she’s super icy with players - same with Ben Taylor in tier 2. I’d gladly have either ref a game instead of Brothers as a fan - but I get why players would like Brothers more

Communication is absolutely important (Zarba is the king at it), but it matters less to those not on the court. List is still super interesting and better than any fan made one, but I’d really like to see a GM/Front Office rankings

I can always notice when Tony Brothers is the reff because there’s going to be a ton of calls that make me go wtf, but I don’t really remember watching a game he reffed where it felt like there is an agenda, it’s just bad calls all around, for both teams. Marc Davis will let both teams beat the shit out of each other for a half, then all of a sudden remembers he’s got a quota to meet, and starts calling everything, but similar to Brothers, it doesn’t necessarily feel lopsided, it’s bad calls for both teams. Compare them to Scott Foster, where if there’s a big lead, it’s guaranteed Foster will call a couple of soft fouls in favor of the trailing team. The players probably prefer shit calls both ways because at least it’s ‘fair’.