Dylan Harper in the series against Minnesota: 14.6⁄6.4⁄2.6 on 63% TS
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/dylan-harper-last-5-games
14.6 points
6.4 rebounds
2.6 assists
1.4 steals, 54⁄27.3⁄88.9 splits
He is much further along than Castle was as a rookie
He’s a vastly better prospect lol Harper goes 1 in a lot of drafts
including this one BTW
Nah he would’ve been heavily overshadowed by the tournament risers. Too many good guards in the class. His Rutgers team was dogwater.
aj and peterson go 1 & 2 regardless of tournament and then it’s him or boozer at 3 he likely goes before acuff
Peterson vs Boozer at 2 is already a convo for many, so if he can go over Boozer he can go over Peterson, especially to GMs that highly value availability
What? He would fit in the top 4. Top 3 has no risers its been locked in all year
Hell nah
I was and am a big Harper fan, but purely as a prospect, I think Harper would’ve gone at 4 in this draft. Not a diss to him, it’s just a stacked draft class.
lol no, dybantsa and peterson definitely clear him. Boozer and Wilson are arguments probably decided by fit or team preference.
I totally disagree, I think Harper was a slightly better prospect than both of those guys. Like I love Peterson but other than shooting (where I don’t think the gap is *that* big) I think Harper is better. AJ’s tougher to say, he’s close, but he’s been so ball-dominant and has not been good defensively at all and I worry about that. It’d be close.
Flagg I think is a tier above those guys, then AJ/Peterson/Harper is a tier.
You don’t think the gap is that big for shooting? What?
if we’re talking about just college career versus college career, maybe it’s a little different, but harper shot 34% from 3 this year which is totally solid for a ball-handling 19 year old rookie. I don’t think peterson has shown elite shooting yet, closer to above-average streakiness. so I’m slightly higher on Harper’s shot than consensus and slightly lower on Peterson’s shot than consensus.
He shot 2 a game this year lol, Peterson has been an elite shooter for years and will continue to be
Harper would be 3rd tops, he didn’t have anywhere close to the hype of Dybantsa or Peterson, they both benefitted from being on teams that weren’t complete ass
And Castle has had an exceptional progression so far.
Really could have been an all star this year
And still has a chance to make an all defensive team
Damn only in his second year and making the old defensive team. Life comes at you fast
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Noooooo leave it for comedy 😂
San Antonio Uncs
Given how they’ve played in the playoffs, you’d think Castle was the second all star on our team not Fox
He really should’ve gotten it over him imo
No surprises there as this was expected of Harper. But Castle is more surprising to me and I am a fan of his competitive edge
Castle learned from CP3. Harper is learning from Castle and Fox and, apparently, he talks to Manu a lot.
Next year is gonna be crazy
Castle was a 4th pick in what was viewed as a weak draft, Harper was 2 in what was seen as a very strong draft.
World of difference.
Still can’t believe 3 other teams let him fall to us
Except Castle didn’t get the chance to play a series in his rookie year
Eh not entirely. Harper is better offensively. But not as good of a playmaker and doesn’t defend other teams first options.
Rookie castle was doing an excellent job on guys like Luka
Yeah it’s exactly this though as to why it’s not worth comparing the 2 players. The better comparison is Harper and Fox. They can definitely look into trading Fox sooner than later
Castle isn’t a great playmaker if we’re being honest either. His turnovers are among the worst in the league
6th in assists per game for the regular season with an A/TO of 2.3, you’re right that fucking sucks for a 2nd year player lol
Dawg Castle locked down Shai & Curry in the clutch last season lol, he was ROTY for a reason
He’s already so composed as a rookie. Man he’s going to be outright scary for opposing defenses in a year or two.
I forgot he’s a rookie. Very rare to have this much talent with your best players being on rookies contracts.
If spurs can somehow get off fox it’s truly scary hours for the league and the west
Imagine they somehow flip Fox+picks for Giannis lol
If the Spurs get Giannis without giving up Harper or Castle there needs to be an investigation. Thats almost Nico levels bad
Is it even possible to score against a Wemby Giannis duo?
If you are named Stephen Curry and you pull up from the logo, yes.
Okc was so nice they did it twice in the last 15 years. IIRC Westbrook Ibaka and Harden were on rookie contracts in 2012.
This Spurs young core is scarier than them. This should’ve been the 2010 OKC version of this core. They are way ahead of schedule.
If nothing else we could trade him for Zion who is on a similar but shorter contract and probably get other assets. Plus Zion and Wemby together sounds fun.
He’s scary now wdym
like how the opening scene in halloween was scary. like just wait until that myers kid grows up
I think I might already feel more comfortable when he has the ball than anyone else on the team. Such a mature control of the pace, feels like he never gets sped up.
It’s a level of comfort not felt since a 4-down Duncan iso into a bank shot.
Thunder are going to throw one of Caruso/Cason/Dort/JDub/Ajay on him at all times, he is going to grow so much going against that defense
Ultra-efficient and poised for his age. Sky is the limit for him.
I wouldn’t call sub 30% from 3 ultra efficient but his potential is noteworthy
He shot vastly better after ASG than he did to start the year. He’s shooting 40% from 3 in the playoffs.
Harper and Castle are both shooting 40% from 3 after the All-Star break. Still clinging to the stats at the start of the season?
are you schizophrenic because what are you even talking about. did you even read the post. we’re talking about this series. his 3 is not ultra efficient. come back to reality
Bro you rarely shoot 40% from three when you are playing in such an intense playoff series like spurs/wolves. Everybody, even Ant and Wemby, sees decline in their shooting percentage because they have been playing crazy defense.
Do you think the knicks will shoot as well as they are doing now if they play OKC or the Spurs? LMAO
His attempts are low and there’s only been 5 games. He hits two next game and his percentage jumps to 40+
Wannabe analytics nerds who don’t realize you can score efficiently without a 3 ball make me laugh
Seriously. Like Harper hasn’t been cooking at the rim and hitting the majority of his free throws when he draws contact.
This kid is a fucking problem. He is extremely talented and it scares the shit out of me
good
Wolves and Thunder are gonna be an elite rivalry
Wolves?
Lol. Spurs*
What a rook.
Shooting 62% from 2 goddamn
Harper was among the top of players for efficiency in the paint as well. You’d just see a list of like 12 big men with Harper in the middle haha
like TP!
Harper would legit be a franchise changing player for other franchises but the Spurs got him as the player coming off the bench in the playoffs lol
I really love his game
He would have been fighting Flagg for rookie of the year had he gone to the Wiz or Nets. He is a franchise lead guard.
What 3 consecutive lottery picks does to a franchise
Rockets had 4 lololol
Extremely polished player already. Feels like the West is on borrowed time; Wemby, Castle, Harper looks like a combo that could bring multiple rings to SA if they keep growing together
I mean okc is stacked and has first round picks for days. West gonna be a blood bath
OkC vs Spurs will be fun
I thought either this year or next year is the last of the clippers picks.
They have a LAC swap next year as well as SAS (too 16 protected) and Denver (top 5 protrcted) next year
Denver better not make a hasty trade this offseason and collapse the, especially with the new odds
I love the dynamic of Minny, SA and OKC all having something for each other’s weakness and, most importantly, hating each other. Mavs can get up there too if Masai works his magic and gets Coop a great second star.
Sad that it seems like our window is shut for now but as a hoops fan, the West is prime viewing right now.
Putting MN in this conversation feels generous. Spurs have pretty cleanly outclassed the Timberwolves
wolves will be moving east soon
I don’t know. MN has been achieving at a high level. Feels like they are built for playoffs. Need some offense to help Ant though. Randle is not it.
It’s 3-2. I also think you’re built to counter OKC but San Antonio got your number (for now).
I do think a healthy Ant changes things a lot though.
If wemby wasn’t a moron it very well could’ve been 4-1 tbh
Keeping your emotions in check is part of basketball, you should know that considering how often Sacramento and Portland melted down in the playoffs against you
Yes but I’m just saying talent levels it’s clear they a level ahead of
Looks like a vet more than Fox sometimes
His shot selection is definitely better.
Playoff riser
Please unleash this dude next year he needs to start and play next to Wemby
Him v Ajay mitchell next round fighting for best lefty in the series.
I love Ajay Mitchell but there’s a HUGE difference between playing the Lakers and the Wolves. At this point Harper is more proven. We have yet to see Ajay once he played the spurs (last time he played them he wasn’t that great).
I’m with you.. i think Dylan is much better, also if Dub back he probably doesn’t get that many minutes
Harp vs Manu who you got? Accolades not counted
I like his “don’t poke the bear attitude.” You score on him and he takes it personally. It’s how a lot of his runs start
Kid is special. Absolute monster in transition.
What doesn’t get shown in the stats is the Play-Off/Championship-caliber defense. The guy disrupts the other teams’ offense when he’s out there. That is so critical in close Play-Off games.
Play-off teams will attack your cone on defense over and over, but even the league’s best players can’t attack Harper reliably.
Additionally, defense is the reason you go on 16-4 runs instead of 22-14 “runs”.
I would like to send a big thank you to Adam Silver for the blessing.
insane player
Once this guy learns to shoot it’s gonna be hard to keep him off the floor, even with Fox and Castle
He’s shooting 40% from 3 in the playoffs.
And 34% in a much larger sample size this season.
He’s gonna fluctuate a lot because he honestly doesn’t shoot that many, but he definitely needs to grow consistency wise. Like even that number is super inflated by a 4-5 game against Portland. Hasn’t made more than 1 three in any other playoff game.
5 offensive boards tonight absolutely made the difference when the score was still too close for comfort. He was so aggressive attacking even with his slow start.
2012 Harden but slasher build
He dgaf about Gobert in the paint even at guard height
Feels like he’s dropping 25 on us every game tbh. Dude is good at basketball. Can’t deny it.
I love this man
Come join your brother in Boston, Dylan. ❤️
Wemby, Harper, Castle, Bryant are gonna be a real problem for years
Trade fox
Love that he already has that veteran ability to steady a team on offense– he can create for himself, and has elite rim finishing skills.
I can’t believe how composed he is at all times.
Why are gifs removed from comments in this sub?
Harper might not win the ROY but look ay hin, amidst jsut being a rookie, he is performing very well in playoffs… in fact with his performance he can be 6MOY this year alongside Keldon
definitely proved you can be a contender with a rookie guard heavily in rotation.
Mid be pretty surprised if anyone in this year’s draft ends up better than Harper. Dude is gonna make a lot of all nba teams.
Imagine if James harden could’ve played off the ball and was a poa lockdown defender. So similar to Ginobli.. mvp impact people will misevaluate because of box score watching.
Wembys bloodclot last season made spurs a contender by landing harper draft pick
I was somewhat convinced the Spurs were gonna have 3 ROYs in a row earlier in the year! No surprises he’s strutting his stuff when it matters most.
Is he really a rookie
The reps of Conley on him has been elderly abuse 😔
Its so unfair that the spurs get wemby castle and harper, the raw talent is insane.
I’m not sure if he will be a star but he’s been an amazing role player this series
Board man gets paid.
Still need to fix that “27.3” if he wants to be a star
Guy looks like Ajay out there