[Highlight] Rudy Gobert’s foul on Victor Wembanyama is upgraded to a flagrant penalty-1 after entering his landing space. Wemby makes 2 out of 3 free throws
I am NOT calling this a flop. There is some amount of forward movement because 24 inches feet is a lot of distance for the ball to go. I’m calling this dumb
but it’s so crazy to me that a guy can close out to NOT the 3pt arc and be called for being in a guy’s landing space
something’s gotta give here
100% agree. You can’t give people landing zone in front of the 3pt line when shooting 3s or it’s just completely unguardable.
It feels so obvious.
What Zaza did was dirty as hell. It was so fucking late and obvious in its intent.
Guys doing normal closeouts and getting a toe underneath another player’s toe because the shooter drifted a couple of feet forward is not worthy of that kind of penalty.
It wasn’t late, he double stepped which is where it seems suspicious.
This is an interesting debate, because Gobert didn’t have an established position. He moved into where Wemby was going to land. Had Gobert been there and Wemby jumped into him, then the conversation would be different. It’s no different than undercutting a player who is taking a layup. Their momentum will always take them forward and it’s up to you to not get under them. Players rarely shoot straight up and down.
This the gold
Once a player is airborne you HAVE to protect him
It’s the same as that rule regarding screening, giving a defender a step
Safety thing
I agree about protecting shooters, but isn’t it a bit ridiculous to say a defender can’t move forward to contest a shot?
And isn’t it even crazier for a shooter to not assume the defender will be in front of where they shoot from?
They can move forward but you’re never ever allowed to slide under someone who’s already in the air
To block or attempt a block you don’t have to jump straight at someone either - you’re supposed to aim next to them instead
I think you need to watch the timing and momentum of their jumps if you call this “sliding under someone in the air”
Gobert already had momentum on the closeout, yet stayed behind the 3 pt line the entire time. Wemby moved backward before the shot and saw Gobert closing out the entire time. And they jumped at effectively the same moment
Yes but by the rules in basketball, the offensive player has the right of way in this situation. They’re the ones who are almost always going to be the most vulnerable in this situation, and it’s up to the defender to either 1. Get to the spot before the shooter begins his motion, or 2. Let the shooter land safely, even if he’s coming forward. The onus in this situation is always on the defender.
To what extent is it the defenders responsibility
Even under the current rules there is a limit to your statement. It’s not just “protect the shooter” and end of discussion
Yeah. I literally detailed the limits in my post.
The defender can move forward to contest a shot, so long as the defender does not move into the offensive players landing zone. A ton of shots get contested each game without landing where the jump shooter is coming down - contest from the side, jump past the shooter, land literally anywhere else. Not that complicated
Cool define landing zone then. You can’t have this rule and not have specific designations for what constitutes a fucking landing zone. It can’t just be some completely ambiguous however far the offensive player decides to naturally jump bull shit.
Landing zone is … get this… where the jump shooter lands. It’s actually not ambiguous at all. There aren’t multiple interpretations of where a shooter landed.
It’s also about the defender ENTERING the landing zone. If Rudy was a traffic cone, standing there before Wemby started his shooting motion and doesn’t move, it’s not a foul because Rudy did not enter Wemby’s space. But that didn’t happen here. When Wemby starts his motion, Rudy is at the free throw line and runs at Wemby to close out but doesn’t allow him space to safely land.
Wemby shoots vertically and lands within like 1.5 shoe lengths of where he started. There is nothing egregious or unnatural about that. Ant jumped about the same distance when he got fouled by castle in the corner.
You’re making a pretty easy to enforce rule more complicated than it is.
Defensive movement legality CANNOT be based on how far forward a shooter decides they want to jump or stick their feet out.
If you or the NBA wants the rules to exist like this there has to be a concrete number of you are allowed to move forward by X distance on a shot. Or some percent of the pre-shot distance between defender and offensive player.
At some point the offensive player is invading legal guarding space and not the other way around.
It’s based on allowing the shooter to land. It’s not arbitrary or ambiguous— it’s physics. Gobert runs out from the free throw line to contest Wemby’s shot and ends up exactly where Wemby is landing. It’s almost always called on a close out when the shooter lands on the foot of the closing out defender, which is what happens here.
From the rules on guarding an opponent: “A player is never permitted to move into the path of an opponent after the opponent has started his upward jumping motion.” … “A player may continue to move after gaining a guarding position in the path of an opponent provided he is not moving directly or obliquely toward his opponent when contact occurs.”
There is no “legal guarding space” for a defender when they are moving directly at the offensive player. Further, the defender can’t move into the path of the offensive player after the offensive players starts their jumping motion. If Rudy was already standing where he ended before Wemby shot, it’s not a foul because he occupied the space before Wemby started his shooting motion. But that didn’t happen, Rudy moved into Wemby’s space… hence the foul.
They teach you to contest so that your body goes to the side, past the shooter. That’s how you avoid the foul call. So at an angle. If you contest directly into the shooter, you get a foul called on you.
So if a defender bites on a pump fake and lands on the offensive player, it’s an offensive foul/possible flagrant?
No because presumably the offensive player was already in the landing zone before the jump. Plus an airborne defender on ball is not in legal guarding position, very few scenarios where I defender jumping into a ball handler leads to an offensive foul.
The defense can’t move into the landing zone of a shooter. If gobert was standing like a traffic cone in the spot where Wemby lands before Wemby shoots, it’s not a foul. It’s a foul because gobert entered/moved into Wemby landing zone
No, because the defensive player in both situations is invading the offensive player’s space. That’s the literal rule. The defender also has a right to their space, but it’s far more limited than the player with the ball. In a situation where the offensive player invades the defensive player’s space, that would be a charge. Now, if a defender jumps straight up, or jumps backwards, and the offensive player runs through them, then yes it’s an offensive foul.
So the offensive player gets a space that’s about a 5’ radius around them, and the defender basically gets where their feet are (as long as it’s outside the offensive player’s 5’ circle). Also offensive players run into defenders all the time and it’s not called charging anymore.
I understand the rule, I just don’t think it’s particularly about protecting players when defenders aren’t given the same leeway. I also think the rules in general have leaned too heavily in favor of offensive players but that’s a larger discussion.
Rules definitely lean in favor of the offense more than ever now, but this rule has been around forever. Theres no radius. The defender needs to get to his space before the offensive player makes a move, thats it. Thats been true for ages now.
What the? No?
Where the heck do you pull that from?
If it’s about safety why don’t you have to protect airborne defenders?
So previously we established that as a defender you’re not supposed to jump into a player, but to their side instead
… and you can’t jump sideways or backwards into a defender on a pump fake
So, that’s covered, in a roundabout way
These rules are continuously improving btw, and player safety is the top concern with this kind of stuff, but not the only concern, ofc
I mean this is how offense has been going for years. The rules are heavily slanted in the offense’s favor now.
Have to close out to either side, not straight on.
Do you guys all think players shooting threes jump straight up and down? Pay attention to how many three attempts have the shooter landing on or in front of the line. That’s a normal three point shot.
And it’s not like Gobert was a foot or more from the line.
Okay how far forward is it legal for a shooter to jump then? Because you have to draw a line if they own ANY space that isn’t where they took off from. You can’t just say they can jump forward as far as they want on a 3pt shot and the defender can just do fuck all.
Cuz their feet are fucking massive lol
When you can fit a small community in your shoes you’re gonna have a large landing space
You can’t have rules scale based on the size of the player or their shoes. That is insane. lmao
Part of the problem is that Wemby’s dimensions and movements don’t make physical sense.
It’s hard to grasp someone’s landing zone when they’re 2 lunges away from a dunk while also standing at the 3 point line.
Which is why any definition of landing zone can’t scale based on the size of the player. Or you just make it illegal to defend a guy Wemby’s size.
Its a foul. But a flagrant 1 is ridiculous. Lack of intent was blatant. Only time Rudy wanted to hurt someone is with covid.
If anything it looked like he cut his jump short to avoid the contact.
I would agree with you IF there was anything unnatural or egregious in Wemby’s landing.
There are players who clearly kick out and jump forward unnaturally try and initiate that contact (and yes, even on the Spurs, Champagnie was open about doing it) and still get the foul call. I agree and have a problem with those.
You absolutely cannot argue that there is anything unnatural about Wemby’s shooting motion here, and his legs look to moving forward in a very normal range/angle for most shooters in the NBA. The distance might just be a little greater because of how long those limbs are.
But it’s also a flagrant because it is what the NBA is trying to stamp out.
right but the idea that defender needs to study every players natural sshooting motion in order to contest a 3 is stupid. Wemby does nothing wrong, gobert does a soft contest below the 3 point line. nothing wrong with it. I understand what we’re trying to correct but why don’t we actually correct the issue. if you do a zaza, you’re kicked out and suspended. that’s it. They make these sweeping rules that everyone need to interpret and it’s dumb. this isn’t a foul, its an unfortunate result from 2 people playing normally
No - but the NBA has explicitly put the onus on the defender to not jump into the landing zone, and have made a flagrant if you do, due the risk of injury.
They may not call it all the time, but Rudy is 100% in Wemby’s landing zone. There is no way you can argue against that.
(Again- I would argue against the foul if Vic kicked out his leg or jumped forward unnaturally, which plenty of players do now to draw the foul, but no unbiased observer could look at this clip and think that is whats happening).
If you want the defender to not jump into the mystical “landing zone” then they need to fucking define landing zone. It can’t be an infinitely scaling radius from where the shooter takes off. It has to be some objective measurement that applies to every shooter equally and if they jump outside that radius it is an offensive foul and not a defensive one.
It’s pretty simple - if you’re closing out hard on a 3 you need to do it to the side so you go past the player. I see most guards do that on close outs now.
I bet Wemby’s going to draw a lot of these fouls as his career progresses. You have to get way up there to contest but also have to be mindful of his 2-foot long feet in the process.
Let’s be real, 99% of players are not going to be able to contest a Wemby jumper. Best they can do is try to strip it on the way up because his release point is incomprehensibly high compared to most players’ reach.
The line is not a magical barrier. People move forward when they shoot. They regularly start behind the line and finish in front of it. Close off center like you should and it’s not a problem.
For the record, Bruce Bowen was the master of this and I despise him for it. Pretty much the only blemmish on our honor - and it’s a huge fucking stain.
Sometimes the most logical responses get downvotes. This is one of those times
I’ve said this a lot already but if you want to not have defenders land in the mystical “landing zone” then landing zone needs a hard objective definition. It can’t be a subjective amount of space the offensive player gets from shot to shot. It needs to be a hard defined jump shooters on 3pt attempts ONLY get X feet forward and any more is an offensive foul if it results in contact with a defender.
Oh I really like that idea - if the defender stops short of the 3pt arc, then it shouldn’t be a reckless closeout. It would be easy to ejudicate, like no charging fouls if the defender is in the restricted area in the paint. And it could make the 3 more challenging for offenses, which would be fun
Gobert feet were about a millimeter from the three point line and a normal three point shot has forward momentum where the shooter lands a slightly in front of the three point line. Wemby did jump forward excessively and Gobert was 100% in his reasonable landing area.
Spurs fans are well-aquainted with why this rule exists.
This exact exact same defense would never be called a foul against like the 60% of the league with different shooting form But this is a no call https://streamable.com/sb5uz0 Shooters are being rewarded for creating injury risk by jumping as far as they can towards legal defense, but if you bait the defender to actually jump into you and foul you aren’t rewarded unless you flop. Players are being incentivised to play unnaturally and make the game more dangerous instead of actually beating your man, it’s so bad for the game
This exact exact same defense would never be called a foul against like the 60% of the league with different shooting form
But this is a no call https://streamable.com/sb5uz0
Shooters are being rewarded for creating injury risk by jumping as far as they can towards legal defense, but if you bait the defender to actually jump into you and foul you aren’t rewarded unless you flop. Players are being incentivised to play unnaturally and make the game more dangerous instead of actually beating your man, it’s so bad for the game
Originally said about this play but yeah. The way the league is currently officiated, you are playing at a disadvantage if you don’t intentionally alter your shooting form to jump unnaturally far forward and injure yourself, and for the defender the difference between the exact same motion being a no-call or a flagrant is a complete dice roll that’s 100% out of your control.
Wemby barely moves forward and also has a size 20 foot. I mean…this is the exact reason this call exists.
Bruh, you don’t have to complain about every single thing that goes against your team, this is a bad close out…there is nothing unique or special here, it’s just a case of Gobert closing out too hard head on, and getting too close.
“something’s gotta give here”
Yes, Gobert needs to give shooters room to land…
The announcers brought up the Zaza play that created the rule yet I feel like everyone has forgotten what Zaza actually did. It was 10x worse than this.
I bet Zaza’s would be a flagrant 2
Flagrant 3
True lol.
What’s annoying is offensive players often seek out that contact now due to the very rule that is made to protect them
Yeah, some are definitely exploiting the rule when they intentionally float their foot forward like an extra 2+ feet.
Wemby’s forward float here looked natural.
The offensive player will get called for a foul if they kick their feet out (or they’re supposed to be by the rules). Just landing in front of where you jumped isn’t the same thing.
I see shooters kick their legs out ALL the time. Far more than they did before the rule was made
Thats why I put a caveat saying they’re supposed to call it.
Offensive players don’t have to kick their feet out. They can seek that contact out by simply jumping further forward than they would normally
Didn’t he actually land on Kawhi? Not the other way around?
Kawhi jumped backwards for a fadeaway and still landed on Zaza’s feet because he closed out so recklessly. Zaza’s body was past where Kawhi took off for his jumper. https://imgur.com/a/v2YyEUN
Dude 100% was aware of what he was doing and actively put his feet where he thought his would land. Fuck Zaza for that injury seeking bullshit.
Yeah, he took an extra unnecessary “close-out” step towards Kawhi’s landing spot well after the ball was released.
That brother Zaza has special seats reserved in the ninth circle of hell for this shit
Crazy butterfly effect. If that doesn’t happen, kawhi likely stays with the spurs, and they remain in contention for the next 5-8 years. Spurs dont get the #1 pick in 2023, wemby goes elsewhere. Crazy to imagine.
Exactly what I was thinking. Was pissed for years thinking what could have been. Now I’m hear thinking what could be
Exactly man. It was heartbreaking at the time, but looking back I wouldn’t change a thing.
Kawhi gets injured in 2022 and yall would still get Wemby is what would happen.
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Nah kawhi is always gonna go to LA regardless. He wants to stay there
I hope yall put the same energy for LMA doing the same shit against KD twice that series.
no but he moved his feet from like 6 feet away to right under kawhi while kawahi was in the air
No
You are making this comment in relation to a Spurs game. No spur that saw it will forget…
I call Klay, KD, and Looney injuries in 2019 karma for Zaza
one of the biggest what ifs of the past decade.Spurs were on a roll that season. Probably the only team closest to beating the warrior that year
Also, literally the play before this, Edwards got fouled in a similar way. He didn’t twist his ankle, but the situation felt very similar. No question of a flagrant foul on that one. Irrespective of Ant and Wemby, the refs and the League are like the Supreme Court, sometimes I wish they would just say they’re biased against/towards certain players.
I mean the dude is 300 pounds. If he doesn’t stick a foot out he takes out Kawhi and the whole bench.
Are you saying it wasn’t intentional..?
I hate those calls. He wasn’t out of control or deliberately sticking his feet under him, he stopped early and moved his body to stay out of the way. How else are you supposed to close out or even attempt to contest shots on someone like wemby?
It’s so dumb that people legit believe a 3pt shooter should be entitled to landing space in front of the 3pt line. Like defense is already disadvantaged enough, this makes it literally impossible to defend the 3.
Defense doesn’t bring in TV numbers - NBA, probably
You’re probably right that the NBA thinks that way, and it’s just so short sighted. The general public views the NBA as a league that doesn’t play defense. Obviously that’s not accurate, but there’s a reason for that impression and rules that don’t allow hard closeouts aren’t helping.
If the NBA went back to 90s/early 2000s style ball, the general public would be begging for the 2020s NBA to come back.
Probably true. I don’t think it’s necessary to make huge rule changes, just tweak some things. The thing that would actually have a significant impact would be better quality reffing but that’s not going to happen.
Controversial calls also create ‘highlights’ that generate a ton of clicks. Of all the plays in this game I’d bet Silver is using this one to get off to tonight.
Totally agree. Are you supposed to know as a defender how far forward every shooter in the league kicks their feet in their “natural shooting motion”?
But that happens all the time and is part of many player’s shooting motion. If Gobert had been in that position already, then there’s no foul. However, he moved into Wemby’s landing space. The defender in every instance needs to be at their spot before the offensive player starts his movement. Otherwise players would start to look real stilted if they’re forced to shoot straight up and down every single time.
I hate the rule but it’s the Kawhi rule. Look up Zaza Pachulia
yea, the overcorrection is a problem. if peopelt pull a zaza, kick them out. this is not a foul
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Nah I’m more on protecting players on this. Players can be malicious with it. Also ppl have blocked 3 point shots without going on their landing space, just search some highlights. Defenders often run to the side of the shooter to avoid their landing spaces.
You basically have to contest to the side.
Agreed that the rule needs to be changed, but of all the landing space flagrant calls, this is one of the most clear cut.
He was out of control, otherwise his foot purposely went under Wemby 😅. You can come at him and stop earlier, You can come at him from the side, You can even do a Manu Harden block. But if you’ve ever shot from an NBA three-point line, or watched players who shoot from it, you will notice they almost all move forward, as they try to get closer to the basket because that MF is FAR lol.
Edit: And notice how basically none of the other three-point shots had this flagrant? It’s because they were able to defend without putting their feet underneath the defender. What you’re also forgetting Is that it’s a three pointer, not a layup. Even a little bit of a contest can totally fuck up someones shot from that distance, you don’t need to smother them.
Exact same thing happened to Edwards on the previous play, yet no review. Are they only reviewing dangerous closeouts if the player acts hurt?
Edwards was fouled to the side, this was straight on
Yes that’s why people flop lmao
Literally yes
Nope. He didn’t get under his foot. He just bumped his side.
Yeah this happened a few times in our series to both teams and I dont think it was ever called a flagrant. Not sure why they’re being inconsistent with it.
Not the exact. Ant didn’t land on anyone’s feet
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The did call it a foul. Just not a tech
It’s specifically a tech for getting under his feet. That didn’t happen to Ant. It was the right call.
The rule is if Rudy is involved, they review it every time. It is common for the refs to review up to 3 Rudy plays in a game.
Now show the same play one possession earlier.
Absolutely insane dichotomy, the fouls back to back too.
You show me where Ant landed on the defenders feet.
Because And jumped normally rather than jumping 10 feet forward tf
Can we get a replay of the identical play Castle had on Ant literally 5 seconds before this that they didn’t even look at? I guess you to wallow around on the ground and grab your ankle for 15 seconds to get the call.
In the next timeout, sure
Wolves are sloppy right now but this shit is so unbelievably unbalanced from a reffing standpoint. I wouldn’t be surprised if Finchy gets ejected because I’d be fuming.
This is a completely routine, textbook foul?
Are Blazers fans just leaning into being Spurs haters now or something?
I agree it’s a textbook foul. It’s not a flagrant 1. Especially when the same thing happened to Ant 5 seconds prior.
I actually like the spurs and really hope they decimate OKC. What I don’t like is unbalanced refball.
It is literally a textbook flagrant 1…what are you talking about? Did you just start watching basketball? This has been a consistent thing for years now.
Unbalanced refball has benefited the Wolves all series if anything my man, and this was not an example of anything out of the ordinary..this was a textbook flagrant 1, reckless close out, whether you agree with the rules or not.
Ethical basketball.. grabbing your ankle to fake out the refs. Wemby changed my mind on him. Flopping and acting is getting old this series
You’re joking right?
He landed on a foot
He kicked his foot out… Rudy was like a foot away from the line.🤣
I don’t think you know how many inches are in a foot
You’ve clearly never sprained your foot landing on someone else’s foot. The “kick” is a reflex from the pain.
At a certain point you can just admit you’re a shameless homer and nothing you say is accurate or logical.
He didn’t kick his foot out, it was completely normal shooting motion…if you had played ball for even a second of your life, you’d know that on moving jumpers, your legs are naturally going to move forward.
Stop crying about routine, textbook fouls, it’s pathetic
Umm.. he didn’t kick his foot out.. 🤡🤦♂️
You’re right, he didn’t kick his feet out.
Have you never watched a basketball game before?
You Wolves fans are looking like absolute clowns tonight, what’s in the water over there?
Jesus Christ 🤣 embarrassing yourselves
Salt is what’s in the water.
Why are you being downvoted? He literally landed on his foot.
Go smoke crack, lmao. You must be the same person who sues the city for not avoiding potholes.
These are the type of calls people think OKC get
People are really complaining about a routine shooter landing zone foul?
There is nothing controversial about this call?..
i swear the wolves get burned by insane landing zone flagrants like once every 5 games, but we had like… 2 of them all season
I don’t like the rule. Every time I see it enforced it just comes off like guys can’t play defense, like they have to cede space to the shooter even if they got there first, just because the shooter is shooting.
Most of the time it’s the offensive player initiating contact, not the defender, and its’ the defender whose space is being violated, not the shooter’s.
The rules should respect defense more
Edit: Note the phrasing I’m using: Ceding space to the shooter. Not giving them room for safety, I mean, like, literally, “this space in front of me is my zone, that space in front of you is your zone, but I guess you get my zone, too, since you’re on offense”
Dear diary…
No one cares what you personally think about the rule, it’s there for a reason…defenders need to learn how to properly contest, either stop short and give enough space to land or contest to the side, it’s not complicated.
No most of the time it’s not the offensive player initiating, and in the cases where the offensive player is extending their foot or leg unnaturally, it’s obvious.
You’re just bitching because it’s against your team.
Next thing you’re going to be telling us blocking shots is too mean and not fair…
Rudy doesn’t even cross the 3 pt line. He’s guarding a 3 pt shot. I don’t like the automatic flagrant for a shooting foul based on whether or not gravity has changed the direction of the guy jumping from up to down, or whether he’s at an arbitrary 20 degree angle to the side or not. It doesn’t look like a flagrant, and it doesn’t feel like a flagrant, 99% of the time. The zaza foul looked like a flagrant because it was one.
Besides, Ive seen plenty of guys get called for flagrants while contesting “off to the side.”
Jesus Christ there is nothing special about the 3 point line. You’re not immune from a reckless close out just because you don’t cross the magical 3 point line…
No one cares about your feelings, the rule is there fur a reason.
Oh yeah please cite some examples of flagrants in side close outs, id love to see them.
I don’t like these calls either, but it has been called this way consistently for years.
I mean as long as the shooters aren’t doing anything unnaturally with their legs to draw them, I think it’s a necessary rule to have in place. Imagine Wemby turns an ankle and misses the rest of the series…you gotta have harsh penalties on high risk plays. Same reason flagrants don’t consider intent and factor in harm done to players, you gotta protect players from reckless plays, and this is reckless despite what Wolves fans will say.
Regardless, like if or not, I’m completely confused by everyone being so surprised at this, like have they been in a coma since 2017 and just woken up?
This one was more ok to me, but I have seen some called where the shooter jumps forward like two feet. I think it can definitely get ridiculous.
No they’re complaining about the fact that Rudy got a tech for what is just a normal foul
He didn’t get a tech, he got a flagrant and it’s not a normal foul, it’s literally a textbook landing zone flagrant foul.
You just don’t know the rules…
Rudy’s feet don’t even cross the 3 pt line, how are you meant to guard someone shooting 3’s if they can jump forward and drawl a foul like that
There is nothing magical about the 3 point line, idk why you all are so hyper focused on that talking point.
Jump shooters legs move forward naturally, especially of they are moving or stepping back. I refuse to believe you’re just discovering that today…
To answer your question, that’s easy, you are supposed to stick with your player to the point you don’t need to charge them to contest, or you contest to the side…but if you charge out straight on, you’re going to have a tough time avoiding their landing zone.
I can’t believe Wolves fans just discovered what a reckless close out is in 2026 🤣
I mean you can see his base is square the whole time. Not like he kicked out so far that he would’ve fallen over without gobert there. He’s stable until he rolls his ankle off goberts shoe. Gobert did a great job closing out, unfortunately he just kicked that right leg out a little too far and they both have enormous feet.
Are we not gonna analyze this one over and over like we did when Shai did it?
Just seems so dumb, especially after taking the time as a trained professional to assess this on review. Wemby didn’t shift his feet out and Gobert pulled up about as much as you could, he was tracking the ball/shot the whole time.
The 3pt line should be the line. If the defender is inside it, no foul
Completely agree, but also should be at any point. I never have witnessed in my life, a foul on the defense where room was not provided AFTER a shot. Wtf is this BS soft league. Women’s basketball is better than this.
I’m not a long time fan of basketball or anything. This seems absolutely ridiculous and makes it borderline unwatchable. Soft ass game.
I swear you guys are just waiting for something to be upset about and picked this of all plays to draw the line on 🤣
This is a textbook flagrant, it’s been that way for years, these calls happen literally all the time, I’m not sure why you’re getting your panties in a bunch …
I just think there’s way too many rules and too many reasons to blow the whistle in general. It’s more fun to watch when they get to play.
I’m not sure what to do with that…sorry you feel that way?
It would be cool if refs were robots and players could play without fouling for long stretches…but that’s not a reality we live in. Teams play ultra aggressively in the playoffs, especially the Timberwolves, there are going to be a lot of fouls called. And in this case, if you’re new to basketball you might not understand why this is a foul, but defenders landing under shooters feet is extremely dangerous and is an active priority for refs to stay on top of when it happens…this was a textbook example, nothing unusual about it.
Gobert knows better, it’s his fault, don’t let these clowns on here tell you different.
This is the kind of bullshit that is so frustrating about this league.
Yeah, I get it it’s a rule, but it’s a dumb rule. If you shoot a 3 you shouldn’t be entitled to space underneath the arc to land.
The 3pt line is 2 inches wide, and a size 20 shoe is 14inches long…….
Why didn’t they review the ant one before this
He didn’t cross the three point line
As if that matters in the slightest, the legs of shooters move forward on jump shots. As long as shooters are doing some sort of unnatural motion, defenders still need to give them space to land.
You guys act like you’ve never seen a jump shot or one of these landing zone fouls before…
Flagrant? Man fuck Wemby.
I don’t think that should be a flagrant. Wemby was a step behind the three point line taking the shot but landed a foot in front of it. That’s a reckless shot not a reckless closeout. I understand the injury risk but at some point it should be on the shooter too. Or you’re just saying you’re not allowed to contest Wemby threes.
This used to be a no call.
This is so soft
Nba so soft
This being called a flagrant is so inconsistent
People are only complaining about this cause of what Wemby did last game. Clear flagrant foul under the current rule set which you can say is a bad rule, but you can’t say bad call.
What about the play literally right before that they didn’t bother to review?
Not the same. It was a bump. Normal foul. Does no one know the rules?
I’m more annoyed that Ant didn’t get b tbh e same treatment the possession before. He literally lands on Castle’s foot lol
Refs are really hurting the NBA this postseason.
wemby did kick his foot out a bit past the 3pt line. shoda been a no call
French on French crime is called what?
Really surprised SGA did not get awarded free throws for this.
As a spurs fan, respectfully, what the fuck?
That was not a flagrant foul.
Insane to call this a fuckin foul lmao. Clown shi
I think what got it was that rudy turned around.
I know these are necessary but these calls are getting more annoying to me
Careful guys if you say anything bad about wemby the pussy mods will delete your comment
French friends finished flagrantly
Dirty smh
Weak
This should not be a foul. If the defender keeps their feet behind the 3 point line no foul.
The term landing zone is the problem. Yes Gobert is in it but why is any shooter entitled to that space? I’m not saying you’re wrong, I’m saying it’s stupid.
It doesn’t allow the defense any consistency. It’s ambiguous and stupid. We had a league where guys like Bruce Bowen, raja, bell and zaza were doing something intentional and dangerous. A few people got hurt and they corrected it by making a solid square closeout borderline illegal. There’s no reason an offensive players feet should be entitled to any space inside the 3 point line if they’re shooting a 3. In this scenario, the responsibility should be on Wemby not to step in Goberts feet, since again, he’s done a safe and reasonable closeout.
Wemby shot another 3 later in the game he made and you could tell Gobert stopped his closeout short to the point where there was no contest. The rule is way to offense friendly
imo poor call from the refs.
Not a flop from Wembanyama, but also nothing intentional or malicious from Gobert
A flagrant by the rules so the correct call but always seems softer than what aren’t even called fouls sometimes.
Yeah I’d say that fits the rule.
If you shoot behind the 3 pt line but jump forward 6 ft and land on a defender 6 ft away is that the defenders fault?
I feel like we’re remembering different plays. Zaza wasn’t even looking at Kawhi. Pretty similar to this one.
Flagrant on the Wolves
Don’t you ever talk about the Kawhi injury during a Spurs game you want to traumatize us?
Wemby is pissed after last game
Zaza flashback. Good thing wemby’s okay
that’s right bitch. BOW TO WEMBY