yup he absolutely bullied the Wolves on the boards for a whole series that year too, he was gritty as hell. RIP

I remember him destroying the wolves for a whole series rest in peace

He really was, all effort, all the time. Gutted right now.

Yeah, it’s not just their careers being disrupted, not getting to play, and missing out on money, but I’ve also read that dudes can get really lonely when they’re injured because they’re often either cut or have to be away from the team for treatment and such.

Basketball is not only their profession, but it’s often the main channel through which they’ve interacted with people since they were children. To suddenly be cut off from that has got to be difficult. 

I’ve had extreme chronic pain for almost 4 years now from a car accident.

The mental side effects are worse than the pain itself. It’s hard to explain.

they probably get put on some crazy pain meds too

I remember reading about what was happening with Winslow spiraling due to being injured so much and feeling like he didn’t accomplish what was expected of him with all his hype coming in.

TMZ reporting it’s being investigated as OD

Where did you see this?

It’s killing me, I cant get off it. Do not ever take it. It has been a nightmare. OH7 should be illegal.

And you could get it at gas stations pretty much everywhere.

As far as I can tell, Kratom in its natural form has little to no overdose risk outside of massive multiple toxicity or weird effects in combination with other relatively harmless prescription drugs like sertraline.

These fucking extracts are a different ballgame. I’ve looked into this a lot and checked out CDC’s overdose reports and I can’t tell if it’s

a) the fact that they are extracting the shit so many times that it’s the equivalent of taking more kratom than they could reasonably fit into their stomach in it’s natural form

or b) extracts are more prone to being created by shady producers that are also pressing synthetic opioids equivalent to fentanyl and they’re getting cross contamination or intentional spiking to drive up the value of the product.

Bottom line to me is this: I think Kratom on it’s own is a good thing for people trying to get off of opiates or in connection with a plan for chronic pain relief. But for the love of god, if people are going to take it they need to:

1. Be honest with their doctor and any medical professionals they get care from

2)Look up any contraindicated meds

3)Not take fucking extracts

1. Buy their Kratom from large distributors online who have been in business for a long time and lab test all sales for impurities

This conversation is so complicated and there’s a lot of weird sensationalist media coverage around it and very uncertain data environments. But one thing is very clear. The rise of these super extracts has led to a massive spike in over doses. If someone is taking extracts it’s the equivalent to buying pressed pills off the street. They are playing with their life.

I literally got given samples at a bodega connected to a smoke shop in Chicago the other day of 7OH. No bullshit.
I don’t even smoke weed. I asked my friends what is was they told me it’s messed up shit. I looked it up and it’s got horrible reports of addiction.

Apparently the withdrawal from it can be close to opioid levels of bad

Ya but it was Kratom. Maybe he was using it to stay clean, and then after the charges said fuck it? Idk I think it’s more likely suicide but we’ll see

definitely, i couldnt imagine waking up to a 6’6 giant trying to break down my door lol

I watched Jeff Pearlmans video on this story just yesterday. So many sliding doors moments that night which led to what ultimately happened

The rare completely justified Texas shooting

AJ Greens player tribune article about Rondale was heartbreaking and beautiful.

Or car accident

Sometimes it can be that heart defect they never notice. Sometime drugs, sometimes car accident, sometimes suicide, sometimes (like Sean Taylor) their past catches up with them.

But that’s generally the list.

“I don’t want to speculate” speculates

Ok but you are speculating like you don’t get to have it both ways

Yeah back when I was using at my worst 200g was about a week supply.

150 1g capsules for $60, take about 4-10 at a time depending how I was feeling.

Glad I kicked it after 4 years. Lost way too much money on that fucking sludge.

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Particularly the strong variants these days are basically equivalent to the early OxyContin days. I’ve got a number of people I’ve known, especially from recovery communities who have gotten hooked on the stuff and the result is basically indistinguishable.

Daniel Naroditsky (chess player/educator) also passed away last year at the age of 29. Kratom was detected in his system. Just tragic all around

only in Thailand. The shit they have here in the US (7-OH) is not the same. Way more addictive

There really aren’t OD risks with kratom alone because it doesn’t cause respiratory depression the same way as true opiates/opioids, it actually works as a stimulant at lower doses. Definitely still addictive though

I think it must depend by state cuz you can absolutely get it at vape stores and gas stations and shit here lol. They usually have it like right on the counter for everyone to see while they check out

Yea it was tragic for sure. I wonder how different things woulda been for him had he gotten the assistance/support he needed when he was a kid