Reminder OKC has 13 First rounds picks in the next 6 years.
Reminder OKC has 13 First rounds picks in the next 6 years. THIRTEEN, yes the defending champs have that many first round picks. They also have 16 second round picks.. unbelievable
I cant believe we are almost free, Now it is nuggets turn.
Strawther, Hunter, and Pickett for that 2029 1st huh…
Unless the information i read was wrong, i believe Thunder own the Nuggets first round picks in 2027 and 2029.
2027 was for Payton Watson, 2029 was for Strawther and pickett.
The Thunder got a 1st for Payton Watson and the Bulls couldn’t get a first for Caruso or Ayo? 😪
Giddey is better than a pick
Giddey is probably better than Caruso let’s be real. It was a perfectly good trade for both sides
Should’ve been Giddey and a pick
The Ayo give away was criminal. The guy just started a playoff game and the Bulls were like “nah, we don’t need this dude”
Ayo has been great for us but us starting him in the playoffs was not by choice
That might be true, but id personally give up a first easily if it meant starting Ayo in the playoffs vs. giving Dillingham big minutes lol
Dillingham, Conley, and Miller for Ayo and Conley is potentially one of the bigger fleeces we saw this year and it doesnt get talked about enough
If they keep Ayo on a good contract, I agree
Hey you guys got top 4 this year
They might fuck around and pull a Patrick Williams again 😪😪😪
I don’t think they can do that in this draft. Supposedly too many good players. The bad part is that yall can’t tank to get more good players. So you’ll continue to be mid.
being mid is the new tank, bulls getting top 4 next year 100%
Tanking will be useless after this draft due to the changes.
youre right yeah. the 2027 got them Peyton Watson
thankfully Booth did top 5 protections on both it seems but still it can get scary
surely the Nuggets keep Watson if they give up a pick in exchange for him
Unless the NBA actually punishes Clips for circumventing the cap. It would be very satisfying as a Pacer fan to see this years pick forfeited for cheating.
They won’t take away traded assets. 0%. Keep dreaming buddy.
Almost free
Unfortunately we’ve still got that Philly pick and swap to worry about. Fortunately, they’ll fuck it up.
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It sucks because when we had chance to draft, it would be the 30th pick due to swap. This is why most clippers fans right now dont even know how to react for that lottery pick from pacers, everyone is changing their mind about the player they want for 5th pick.
For now. They could start flipping their bench guys who could start on many other teams and just accumulate even more picks.
Sam Presti is the best GM right now and it’s not close.
Yeah they’re gonna have to ship some of the bench stars off eventually or lose them in free agency because this team will be too expensive to keep together so better to trade early and get picks while you still can.
Imagine if this team was put together in an era where you could actually keep all your good players lol they’d deadass be like 60s Celtics.
Before we start comparing them to the 60’s Celtics we should see if they can go B2B first.
Not what he said, no luxury taxes are what he said they probably would’ve already traded a shit ton of picks for kd or Giannis without losing anyone on the current team
Pretty much as soon as I hit post I realised I misinterpreted it but I didn’t feel like deleting it.
They haven’t even lost a single game in this playoffs yet, it’s fucking nuts.
Man idk. A lot of the GM’s are newer and hopefully have learned from all these horrible trades and at leave value draft picks instead of giving them out like candy.
But you only need 1 GM to trade a first-rounder for a quality rotation player, especially as teams rarely think “this pick could be a top 10 pick because we may suck in 3 years”
They know this and don’t care because in this scenario they’re fired anyways
THIS
and the worst thin is it‘s the same with politicians
This is a problem with how quickly teams move on from coaches/gms. They have to go all in on the short term, because otherwise they won’t be around for the long term plan.
And then there is Daryl Morey
Man we just saw Mikel bridges and Desmond bane get traded for a combined 9 FRP so I don’t think they really have learned their lesson lmao
Can you imagine the Thunder’s bounty if the Knicks were still being run by Isaih Thomas!!
Soon the draft will just be all Thunder picks
Give us OKC draft and then normal NBA draft
Let prest run the draft for every team
He just drafted me and my granny to your biggest rival, and picked Dybantsa for the Thunder.
We can’t judge the trade yet, we still have to see if gamgam buys into the system
Isn’t the draft 2 days now? Just do the okc draft one night and the draft for everyone else on the other night
** 2030 draft **
1 - OKC
2 - OKC
3 - OKC
4 - OKC
5 - OKC
6 - OKC traded to spurs for Wemby and picks
7 - OKC traded to wolves for Ant and picks
8 - OKC traded to Mavs for cooper and picks
9 - OKC traded to Kings for a bag of chips, cuz they fucked in this new draft system
Mavs probably take this if you include a veteran with injury problems.
Maybe we start a 2nd NBA team?
I believe that’s the strategy. Surround the core with high upside younger guys on team friendly contracts, develop them, and trade them for more picks or trade away part of the core if it seems like it’s time and one of the younger players really pays off. Fill in the gaps with guys who defend well, develop them to shoot the three reasonably well, and try to avoid picking up players with hustle issues.
If a young player doesn’t pan out, trade them for more picks to restart the process.
Plus acquiring draft picks that are past 2028-2029 might be useful with the expected expansion draft for Seattle and Vegas.
Bench depth can get poached, draft picks can’t. Then those draft picks can be used to reload quickly either through the draft itself or as trade pieces to fill out any bench weaknesses the expansion creates.
Seattle and Vegas.
OKC already has their firsts.
Granted in past only one player could be selected from each team, so might not want to go too crazy on what doing with the deeper part of bench for the expansion draft.
Are they paying big money to Williams and Holmgren yet? It’ll be hard to get consistent talent around them, and I’ll always be an injury away. Staying under the apron will also consistently be tough. Will be interesting to see how they use the picks to navigate that.
He’s playing Basketball GM on easy mode.
Flip your whole team for a mountain of first round picks, tank for 1-2 years, trade your bench players for more first rounders, be absolutely stacked and just keep making trades to top up weaknesses or offload mega bench talent for more picks, stay good forever, 10+ year dynasty.
that’s the part thats fun for me. Do I think we can win 10 in a row? No. even with the best players, injuries happen, life happens, stuff moves around.
but we’re in the conversation for 10 years - perennial WCF or better appearance like the Celtics have been til this year, I’ll take that over profound mediocrity over the same stretch.
Is there any player in the league other than Wemby or maybe Ant that the Thunder couldn’t get if they were determined to make it happen?
They could get Ant in a heartbeat if they offered Shai.
They would never offer Shai obviously, but they theoretically could get Ant by offering Shai.
I legit think Wemby is the only player they could not get with Shai + a fuck ton of picks, and even then the Spurs would at least think it over before saying no.
Shai on top of Chet’s shoulders + 10 firsts.
“In a heartbeat” is a massive stretch here.
Ant is 3 years younger than Shai, arguably has an even higher ceiling, the Wolves are very purposefully building this team around Ant’s window to a point they were willing to trade away their 2nd best player of all time (who had been with the team for 9 years and was a 4x all-star) right after taking out the defending champs in the playoffs to build for Ant’s window, and once SGA’s supermax kicks in he’s going to be making ~\(10m-\)12m more than Ant through at least 2029. The whole point of the Wolves trading KAT was to maximize flexibility for Ant’s window - getting SGA and picks instead would make very little sense.
Keep in mind a lot of OKC’s picks aren’t top-tier picks either. For example, next year they have their own pick, Denver’s, and San Antonio’s - those should all be very late first (and are protected anyway), then they just have another Clippers swap. 2028 includes Utah’s, who looking at their roster should be well on the up by then. 2029 and 2030 include picks from Boston, Atlanta, and Denver.
In theory the trade could happen if OKC was willing to offer something absurd, as in OKC might have to match the record still held by the Paul George trade (5 firsts) plus SGA to bring the Wolves to the table.
I’m not saying Ant is actually worth SGA plus 5 firsts, but point is unless Ant asks out (which doesn’t seem on the cards and even if it was, wouldn’t happen until at least 2028 by which point SGA would be pushing 30), it would take such an absurd offer from OKC you might as well put Ant in the same Wemby category of players OKC couldn’t get unless Presti has a stroke or something. It’s certainly not a “in a heartbeat” situation.
I would stop watching Wolves if we ever trade Ant, just saying that before I say anything else.
If we take emotions out of it, if Shai for Ant straight up was on the table that is offer that GM should be fired if they refuse. It would instantly make Wolves runaway favorite for the title next season and Wolves window is next year or 2.
I disagree. I think if you put SGA on our current squad we still wouldn’t be favorites to win the chip, especially if to do so we have to send Ant to OKC, where he’d terrorize the West for the better part of the next decade, and OKC would still have I think 8 1st round picks over the next 6 years even if we got 5 from them.
A bunch of late firsts aren’t going to be worth much for us at this point unless we flip them for other players to help win now, but then we’d probably run into more cap issues once SGA’s supermax kicks in.
I’d probably also stop watching if we replaced Ant with SGA, but I’d at least understand the move if Presti had a stroke and made the offer, then Connelly was able to find a way to flesh out the squad to go for a chip now. I just don’t think there’d be a reason to do it given how we’ve specifically set up this squad to give us flexibility when Ant is hitting SGA’s age when he won his first chip (2-3 years from now), and we’d still be up against it competing with this OKC squad (less SGA) plus Ant anyway.
Agreed. The gap between Shai and Ant is minuscule compared to the gap between the OKC vs Minny supporting cast.
Someone is going to offer Ajay the bag in a year or two. He could start on 80% of the leagues teams.
OKC’s got him on a 3yr contract thru 2028. Knowing how Presti has already moved in the past I could see him offering an extension pretty quickly to give him a raise and lock him up before he hits free agency
Fuck the clippers man.
This entire roster has been built off Presti fleecing other GMs. They got Caruso from the Bulls, Ajay Mitchell from the Knicks, Cason Wallace from the Mavs, and Jared McCain from the 76ers. And all of those teams pretty much got nothing to show for it other than Lively for the Mavs maybe?
Say fuck the Clippers all you want but Presti has fucked over like half of the league’s GMs
if i were a GM and Sam Presti calls me im not answering the phone
It’s what makes what he does all the more impressive, how the hell is he managing to make these trades when he’s got a record of fleecing teams.
He always has assets needed to make opportunistic trades. It is bit of a rich get richer kinda thing. Obviously with massive mix of great scouting and already great team that makes players probably look bit better than they actually are as their roles are clearly defined.
He’s a top 3 gm and honestly I’m leaning more towards best of all time
Presti has never failed. It’s been his players that failed him.
Looking at how Harden played in the playoffs for his entire career, maybe Presti wasn’t wrong to move him. But he absolutely moved him for less than he was worth.
Even the Harden trade was cheap owners not Presti. Once that chuckle fuck Aubrey McClendon smashed his car into a freeway overpass the Thunder could finally make some real moves.
We really going to pretend Harden didn’t put up monster numbers against the prime Warriors in the Playoffs?
2015:
28.4 PPG/7.8 RPG/6.4 APG/2.4 SPG
2016:
26.6 PPG/5.2 RPG/7.6 APG/2.4 SPG
2018:
28.7 PPG/5.6 RPG/6.0 APG/2.1 SPG
2019:
34.8 PPG/6.8 RPG/5.5 APG/2.2 SPG
To be fair it took almost 20 years for it to amount to a Championship. Most of us fans have been praising him forever and his strategy is finally starting to bloom but you could definitely criticize him for getting no rings out of Durant/Westbrook/Harden.
I guess you have to give him the benefit of the doubt that he was forced to trade Harden.
It’s not the GM on the floor. The fact he put together that team and ALSO been able to break it into pieces that turned it into the self-sustaining monster is his achievement given what he can control
Siempre le contestarán.
Es el que más activos tiene a presente y futuro. Siendo el mejor equipo actualmente.
Eso no se había visto nunca.
Este ciclo de Sam PRESTI va ser difícil pornerle un alto. No ganarán en todas las temporadas, pero parece que competirán como mínimos por 20-30 años o más.
Si siguen el ciclo de intercambiar jóvenes por más picks.
IMO Presti will have to go down as one of the best GMs of all time. Your timeline sounded a little crazy at first, but he is only 48 and loves what he does so it’s not absurd he’ll be doing it a long time.
I also don’t think he’s ever going to go to another team before he would retire. He’s heavily invested in the culture of OKC that doesn’t seem like lip-service, and it’s his perfect playground. With his track record the ownership group seems to have given him carte blanche to do whatever he wants with the team up to paying in the tax, and he’s free to just make basketball decisions he probably wouldn’t be able to make in other markets.
If Presti calls you just start working on developing the guy he wants ASAP. When Presti is interested in one of your players that’s a sign that you probably need to be playing that guy more
I’d answer just so I knew who would become my best player in the next year.
Nah you’d answer that because he’s calling you for a reason and that’s usually you fucked yourself with a bad contract and want out.
Lol seriously. Bunch of casuals in here not realizing that Sam really does offer value in his trades.
Hold up, are we talking about Jared “Sold High” McCain?
“sold (while) high”
I will not accept any criticism for that trade. The fans didn’t want it. I doubt morey even wanted it.
You can blame Josh “Island Boy” Harris for that.
I doubt it’s sixer fans getting criticism or hate, more likely sympathy. OKC is also familiar with owners screwing over trade negotiations (Harden).
James was right after all, Daryl Morey is a liar.
They didn’t get Ajay Mitchell from the Knicks. They told us to draft him, and traded up for him.
We wouldn’t have drafted him otherwise.
Exactly, OKC traded cash and the 40th pick to swap with the Knicks and move up to the 38th.
It’s less of OKC fleecing Knicks and more of Presti and his group having good talent evaluation and moving for a guy they wanted. Same can be said for the the trade with Mavericks to move up and get Cason Wallace.
Draft day trades should be seen like this, yes.
Caruso for Giddey is not a fleece
Giddey’s value was at an all time low after he pretty much lost a playoff series for OKC with how terrible his defense and his shooting were. He was also fresh off of mid season pedo allegations. OKC just wanted him gone.
They proceeded to ship him off and in return get a key piece in what is looking like 2 championship rosters. I’d call that a fleece, the Bulls just got lucky.
Nah. He was a terrible fit with OKC as it is a place where his weaknesses were maximized.
He was a terrible fit but I don’t really agree with the second part, he is a PG that couldn’t play off ball (obviously you’re going to have SGA with the ball in his hands) because he couldn’t shoot. He wasn’t able to play to his strengths in OKC.
It will be interesting to see what Chicago do with him moving forward, if they pick up someone with the 4th pick who flourishes with the ball in his hands because Giddey will likely still struggle to play off ball.
OKC sold at bottom value - they are just “lucky” (for a luck of a better word, since it is not due to luck that they have those resources) that they have enough resources that they dont need to be perfect with them.
I would call that a fair trade - it is just unhinged that Bulls didnt go for a rebuild sooner. You trade contender role player for a young player, then you start a rebuild is probably patter for most “fair” trades in NBA. Both sides are often happy in those trades.
I mean I can’t really be a fleece if the bulls are satisfied. A good trade yes. It’s not a fleecing especially if you admit they were selling low. Selling low is the opposite of fleecing. Don’t get me wrong I think it was a good trade too but it was definitely not a fleecing. We have the benefit of hindsight we can use it.
Josh Giddey is not nothing
They got a 1st and 3 x 2nds for McCain, do you think another team would’ve offered more?
I wouldn’t be bragging about selling high like it’s a haul but it’s pretty solid return for the Sixers especially since it appears they’re turning over that roster in the off season.
None of those picks are high picks. The first is 22nd overall and the only 2nd worth anything is Milwaukee’s in 2028.
If they were turning over the roster then keeping the 22 year old who can create his own shot would be the route to go, not trading him for one pick that maybe could be him one day. The odds of finding someone like him at 22nd overall are very slim.
Let’s not act like he’s creating to the point where the next Tyrese may have walked out that door. He’s been a nice system rotation player for okc
He’s not a playmaker, I just said he can create his own shot. He’s already an amazing bench player and the 6ers had easily the worst bench in the playoffs.
McCain was averaging 6ppg on 38% shooting after 37 games when they traded him.
To get a 1st and 3 x 2nds for an undersized 2 guard sounds like a fleece.
I like the kid but just because he’s producing in OKC with a great system doesn’t mean he’d produce anywhere else.
Caruso for Giddey was not a fleece, at all. Thunder got someone who you can argue dots them better. But Giddey is a better player.
You’re misrepresenting several of these. They didn’t get Wallace from the Mavs. It was a draft day trade; the Thunder gave the Mavs picks to draft Wallace for and they would draft lively two spots later.
The Mavs always wanted lively. We were skipping the other team at 11th to get Wallace.
The Ajay trade was hardly a fleece - Presti just saw something in him that no one else did. Anyone else could have picked him in the second round before us (or the first for that matter).
Big reminder they got this entire thing started by literally scamming my orlando magic too
Rob hennigan came over to be our gm, took all our assets like Tobias Harris and victor oladipo, traded them to OKC for a second rounder and serge Obama at 30 years old, then quit and went back to work for OKC, they then traded those assets for Paul george and traded Paul george for their current position
How OKC hasn’t been investigated and punished for literally conspiracy is beyond me
It’s not fleecing, it’s one of the all time great heaters from a talent evaluator, and thus having a surplus of talent they can keep trading away for more assets.
Legitimately had no idea they got Mitchell from us. Wtf lol
Not exactly
https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/s/k3SFmMkN3N
People keep blaming the clippers but the only 2 players on OKC currently from that trade are SGA and Jalen Williams… obviously SGA is a beast but no one knew he’d be this good.. he averaged 11 points when he was traded
Two very mediocre players…
I’m not sure this helps your case buddy😂
“The Clippers just handed them the 2xMVP and one of the best two-way players in the league, give them a break”.
Hindsight bro. He was a talented young player who finished 6th in rookie of the year voting
For Paul George and effectively Kawhi Leonard in their primes.
Praise the clippers man.
HOW CAN SOMEONE BE THAT STUPID. THOSE PEOPLE AT CLIPPERS MANAGEMENT, DAMMIT
They got away with it too.
They got no punishment for the Aspiration cap circumvention and they got the 5th overall pick.
The literal equivalent to taking control of a 2k team in mynba and forcing them to give your team all their assets
Don’t think the clippers could have developed the SGA we know today or a roster anywhere near Presti’s, even if they didn’t make those trades
I have a feeling that outside the top 4 consensus picks, OKC will draft someone like Jdub again
The year is now 2037. The nba draft begins as the okc thunder hold a record 30 first round picks and 30 second round picks.
OKC Green holds the 1st overall pick, with OKC White, Purple, Yellow and Cyan rounding out the top 5
OKC is trading down from the 5th pick with OKC for the 18th pick and 2 Second round picks.
lmao 😂
Go on…
The crazy thing is they can keep this going for beyond those 6 years pretty reasonably
They have a good system, and players look really good in the system. As their contracts balloon you just ship them off for more first rounders. As long as you keep hitting it can go on forever.
Windows in NBA close with not much warning. Spurs were probably supposed to be just exiting Kawhi contention window - but one injury, drama and Spurs already finished tanking and are competing with different superstar.
In theory they can keep this up for long but one injury to Shai and it can go tits up very easily.
Spurs didn’t have 2 first round picks per year.
Chances of getting a superstar out of those picks for OKC is close to 0 - chances of keeping great supporting cast are pretty high tho. NBA is simply a league where if you dont have ~top 3-5 player you are unlikely to compete.
Doesn’t the current okc team already prove they don’t need to keep hitting superstars? they already have SGA. as long as they can hit 1 or 2 more strong role players like Ajay Mitchell, their window extends another 5 years. Shit, it might even be Ajay Mitchell
but one injury to Shai and it can go tits up very easily.
I did say injury to Shai - if he is not Shai we know OKC are not (main) contenders even with stacked supporting cast.
OKC are obviously incredibly well run, but you can put together a package for the wrong superstar and all of a sudden you’ve shredded a few of those picks and hurt your depth. Injuries are always lurking, a significant player could walk away for money or demand a trade… they’re obviously the best-set team for the foreseeable future, but if you slip up while the Spurs make a big positive move then the window is suddenly a lot smaller.
Thunder fans should know that from the KD/Westbrook era.
But only one SGA!
And as he gets older , ain’t enough second rounders to make up for that lol
Don’t worry, that’s what Ajay Mitchell is for.
Ajay Mitchell
Lol only way you guys keep him after the contract of the century is if you trade J Dub
Years from now when SGA isn’t good anymore, they’ll probably be able to trade some picks for Lebron
Yep. We have a deep bench, you think we have spaces to develop 2x rookies per year? We do not. We’ll kick the can down the road and only pick when we absolutely love a particular player.
You got 3 max players, most of your top role players will be gone as soon as their contracts are up. The whole league will be poaching for Wallace and Mitchell, and other guys will get good offers too.
Yeah and I don’t see a team trading for any of the max players with an exception of obviously Shai and maybe Chet if he can become a better offensive player, his defense is elite though so anything is possible. But I really don’t see any teams wanting J Dub and his big ass contract if this injury bug of his continues into next season.
Imagine if the warriors drafted well they’d be in contention, but they somehow managed to draft those who don’t suit them.
If only the rest of the state of Oklahoma was run this well
I would vote for Sam Presti in a heartbeat tbh
how tf did he trade for the Rocky Mountains?!
Amen brother. We got the best GM in the league, one of the best mayors in the nation (OKC) and below vomit from dog shit for governor and state representatives.
League? Probably in all four major sports tbh.
i honestly think about this a lot
OKC is run pretty well all things considered
“Come on Presti, you want a real challenge?”
I’d wager they trade a lot of them, but also keep tons because rotating guys in and out to work with SGA and Chet (plus Ajay at this point) isn’t a bad strategy
Isnt jdub shais running mate usually? I get when he’s injured but when hes playing he’s dog out there, definitely atleast asct impactful as chet
It’s a perfect trio. I hope dub gets healthy I love watching him play
The core three are SGA, jDub, Chet with now Mitchell an untradeable.
JDub was looking awesome before he tweaked his left hammy and will be an out and out 25ppg in the Playoffs with elite defense in his prime.
It is an embarrassment of two way riches, that will just need role players slotted around them. It will be expensive, but there is ultimately time to manage.
And with how the lottery odds are changing this off season that’s going to be super fuckery situation lol
That’s just a proposal and I doubt it goes through
Clippers doom the nba for decades
Not just the Clippers, but mostly them
Thank goodness we‘re rebuilding soon instead of playing those juggernauts
2 more years before we start from scratch. Just need a couple of generational talents to replace Steph and Dray. Easy peasy.
Let’s just get the next Wemby or Cooper Flagg, easy
Bruh they’ll still be juggernauts in 5 years lol.
Rebuilds take a lot longer than 3 years on average. The spurs and mavs kind of warped perceptions because they got game changing rookies
The Mavs? Sure, they got Cooper. Let’s give it a couple years before we say they’ve done anything significant. After all, they HAD a generational talent and sold him at a yard sale.
It’s easy to blast the Clippers for this, but then you remember the original scenario.
“We can get the reigning Finals MVP in free agency as long as we get Paul George. Wait- what do they want for George? Some draft picks and a guy we just drafted? I mean, the kid seems good, and that’s a lot of draft picks, sure…but we’ll be awesome! We’ll have Kawaii and Paul George! We’ll be unstoppable!”
On top of that they were 28 and 29 back then, the only concern was their injury record but overall a team being able to add two stars under 30 to their roster is very rare. If anything the Nets should get a way worse rep when they went all in for a 36 years old Pierce and a 37 years old Garnett, giving the Celtics the possibility to draft Jaylen Brown, trade down for Tatum and trade another one of those picks to get Kyrie.
Imo the worst trade in all of sports in my lifetime
Trust me, if you’re a millennial Nets fan, the name Billy King spikes your blood pressure. It’s just nobody remembers the Nets are a team.
I can assure you that a lot of these picks will be kick the can down the road but then we will overpay for what we really want. ie iHart and Caruso.
Presti about to unlock compound interest in the nba
overpay for what we really want. ie iHart and Caruso.
Thunder got IHart for free on a good contract and dumped their biggest liability in Giddey to get Caruso. They didn’t even have to give up picks.
They didn’t overpay for anything.
Teams always end up overpaying championship players, Thunder will not be an exception
Title tax is real
Dumbass Clippers. Gifting all these picks for planting some trees …..
The only pick that clippers played a role into was Wallace and Jalen didnt play
Exactly lol. People blaming Clippers don’t realize only 2 players on their team is from that trade.. and sga was averaging 11 pts when he was traded. No one expected this
Yea, just 2 best OKC players.
Only their two best players.
In addition, from trades made with the Clipper picks they have still have Sorber stashed and a 2027 SAS 1st.
Good thing there is only 15 roster spots am I right?
Did the NBA actually think about that during the whole “change the draft odds, fix tanking”
Arguably 18 if you consider have three two-way players, who can each play up to 50 games per year.
I believe the Sonics are owed reparations
Ironically an expansion draft means OKc can’t keep all their guys and some of their great depth will be available
I think they broke the NBA
They will be rolling those back. They don’t need 2 rookies on roster next year so 12 or 17 will be traded for a future pick.
Wiggins and Kenrich may also be for future picks.
Presti has to write a fucking book man
Seattle must really hate this team
Oh we do.
Eh, it’s not their fault really. Clay settled the contract with the Seattle ownership for the exact same sum they were being asked to refurbish their stadium with. So in the end, Seattle ownership valued not paying for the stadium over keeping their team.
Yes, I know about the emails, but have you actually read them? They’re more hopeful and speculative than conniving or underhanded. Clay just wanted to have a team in OKC and they had a good showing to Stern with the New Orleans Hornets after Katrina.
Like, I understand the animosity toward OKC, but I do think more of it should be placed on the Seattle ownership than there currently is.
Oh it gets worse… their GM Sam Presti simply does not miss on talent evaluation either. So the chances are good that more than 50% of those first rounders are gonna be good players.
Does he simply not miss or does he hit at 50%… you’re playing both sides lmao
May they all be busts and wildly incompatible players. Amen.
Just imagine how dangerous they’d be if Chet actually learned how to read.
Wolves in 6
This isn’t really as big of a deal as it seems. They can only reasonably roster a couple of rookies every season, and in order to do so they would have to drop people currently on the team. So even if they take two first round picks a year, in order to keep those players they would need to drop contributors from the previous season. And most rookies end up being busts.
This does give them ammo for making trades, but the draft picks they own aren’t actually that valuable, and because of what I outlined above everybody knows they need to trade those picks, further depressing their value. And of course, due to cap rules, making trades is going to be difficult for them without giving up good players.
So while yes, having all of these picks is certainly a good thing for OKC, due to structural limitations it’s not nearly as crazy as it sounds.
They can just reload on role players every year and guys like Ajay Mitchell will be increasing their market value and will get huge contracts on other teams
16 second round picks you say? That’s 16 more Ajay Mitchell’s right there! How do they keep getting away with this?!
They are going to go on Bulls or Warriors run
They’re the new dynasty of the NBA, at least my team got one before these guys will run the show for the rest of the decade
This just isn’t true. OP must’ve been including this year’s Utah pick that didn’t convey and double counting some swaps or protections that may not convey. Fanspo’s info is outdated if that’s the source.
2026: LAC #12, PHI #17
2027: 2 best of own, LAC, and DEN (top 5 protected) + SAS (top 15 protected)
2028: Own or swap w Dallas
2029: Own, DEN (top 5 protected)
2030: Own
2031: Own
2032: Own
Even including the 7th year, that’s 11 FRPs. Only 1 additional first besides their own after next year.
Now, could they trade Dort or Hart for 1 FRP? Cason for 2? Ajay for 4? Dub for 5? Chet for 5? Shai for 100? Maybe, if any other GMs are willing to play ball.