Blake Griffin on Jared McCain: “They didn’t sell high enough”
Sure, McCain is playing well, but when you take into consideration all the warm fuzzies that the Sixers and their fans get from knowing that their owner saved some money, it’s clear who won the trade.
Crylaughing intensifies.
Honestly even with that trade the 76ers are doing a lot better than I expected them to. Especially Paul George even if he wasn’t worth all that money
he definitely showed up this postseason but in this series he seems to spend it all on the first quarter mostly.
McCain is definitely having a good run but there hasn’t been a single moment i watched Philly and thought “damn McCain would really help this team rn” maybe they didn’t get enough value for him in the grand scheme of things but i also don’t think he was very valuable to them in the first place.
Saving money on a 2nd year guy in a rookie deal is malpractice
It is. Nick Nurse in his infinite wisdom wasn’t even giving the guy some proper minutes for reps.
You cut Joe for nothing so McCain was an improvement
They also cut one of the Champagnie brothers so that Mac McClung could participate in the dunk contest in a sixers uniform
Omg
Wait is that real
https://www.nba.com/sixers/news/76ers-sign-mac-mcclung
They cut Julian Champagnie to do it. Wonder what he’s up to rn…
OK that’s objectively hilarious. Imagine if he had kept him, McCain and Joe. That bench would be a splash squad
This was the problem with Nick Nurse in Toronto.
Great basketball mind, great coach when it comes to actually being in the game.
Identify talent and off the court organization/admin of the team is horrible.
If there was a position for in-game coach only, and another coach handles literally everything else. Nurse would be a HOFer
Also not true lol
Trust the post-process.
McCains ability to immediately come in and hit big shots in the playoffs is not what I expected from him this year.
I really like him taking all of Wiggins minutes.
My delusion is that he’ll win WCF MVP averaging 40% from 3
why do you want him to win over Shai lol?
Shai got it last season, plus we’re talking delusions here lol.
Realistically I’d want Chet to win it
Can I ask you a random question, Dar?
What do you think about Wemby?
Personally I believe he’s going to be a multi-time MVP a champion, probably beginning within the next 3 years. I don’t like him, but that’s because he’s not on my team LOL
But what do you think about the fact that he’s about to give thunderous slaps to that Thunder ass?
I walked into that
Goteeem
We’re allowed to have our own delusions.
Sorry but you guys are not stopping wemby
What team are you a fan of?
Nah hasn’t he been a big shot maker since his rookie season?
Which tbf was only last season and he was out for the playoffs last year
I stopped watching for a little while but started again once the Playoffs started. I remember Wiggins being a main rotation piece tho.
Did McCain just push Wiggins out of the rotation or did Wiggins get hurt late in the year or something?
Wiggins had already seen his minutes cut prior to the McCain trade. He’s either been playing through an undisclosed injury or he’s developed the yips because his ability to score from basically everywhere on the floor regressed hard, especially his three point shot.
Shit makes me sad, bro
Me too. I hope he’s just having a down year and comes back stronger next year.
Either he’s injured, or he’s dated a horrible girl. Or he needs a therapist. Or all 3.
I always loved his no nonsense take care of business attitude. Shit, maybe he feels he can’t shine to his potential on the bench? It’s honestly true. Like Harden, Oladipo, Sabonis, hell even Russ behind KD. It’s a great problem to have, but ultimately I want these guys to have the career they want to have.
Wiggs has fallen off a cliff since coming back from an abductor injury can’t afford to have bad minutes in the playoffs so we just play him very sparingly if at all
It’s exactly what I expected to happen. This was a fucking awful trade, borderline fireable offense by Morey.
This makes me sad…
He’s made 8 of his last 10 from three as well. Sixers needed that bad in the fourth.
Any Sixers fan that watched them last year knew how dumb this trade was as soon as it was announced.
It’s a fireable decision for any franchise that isn’t a joke
He was literally a ROTY until the torn meniscus. One of my better Fantasy Basketball pick-ups that year.
castle still would have had him beat at the end
He played 1 month of good ball on an injury riddled team
I don’t like the trade but it’d be stupid to go into the luxury tax for this sixers team and they got a solid return for him
They just traded the wrong guy (Grimes)
Why should fans care about the luxury tax?
Last year*
You don’t understand. McCain’s value was already low and you guys had too many guards. The Rockets late first was great value for a guy who was obviously going through a cold stretch. /s
You don’t understand. We already have quite a bit of undersized guards and McCain can’t play defense. Who cares if he can shoot 3s./s
If you build a team of Jareds and Ruis , you’ll be unstoppable averaging 150 pts all on 3pt shots
Yo Rui is an animal with the shot
They went into the 4th with zero bench points. They needed it all game.
Both west contenders sharpshooters came from Philly being stupid
Isaiah Joe as well
Mikal Bridges and Landry Shamet as well
Wolves need to scout the 76ers and get them the missing piece
two teams that are only good because they have the two best players in the league
You can have MVP level players but you can’t win a championship without having elite role players. Champagnie and McCain are both the types of role players that championship teams needs.
it’s just funny how people will act like their GM is some kind of unique genius when it’s obvious they just got lucky
With McCain, I don’t think anyone thinks Presti is a genius specifically for this. People just think Daryl Morey is an idiot. I don’t think you can say Presti got lucky when absolutely nobody who follows the NBA is surprised by McCain playing like this for them, or by the Sixers struggling with lack of bench creation (or any creation outside of Maxey).
that’s what i disagree with. how is Morey an idiot for trading a bench player for a first and three seconds? and i’m not saying Presti got lucky with the McCain trade i’m saying he got lucky with the SGA trade. there’s no way he thought SGA would be this good
Because that first is the 22nd pick in this draft when McCain was the 16th pick. There’s value in the end of the first round but frankly they’ll be lucky if whoever they pick ends up as good or better than McCain. And seconds are always crapshoots, but they’re cheap and that’s why they have value. Mordy is basically banking on getting lucky in the depths of the draft when they’re supposedly trying to contend. That’s why people say he was stupid.
This draft is way more stacked. Not defending the trade though.
funny how people can’t seem to decide if we’re trash and washed or if we’re contenders. whatever fits the agenda you wanna push i guess. every time you trade a player for draft picks you’re taking a risk. we’re in a position where we have to take risks and hope they pay off
What is the payoff in this move? That the future first turns into a player better than McCain?
why is that so impossible? and it’s not so much a better player than a different player. we need rebounders not off ball guards
The Sixers are neither contenders nor an absolutely terrible team. They’re a team with a theoretically good core that can’t stay healthy and terrible depth to make up for it. In no world is trading one of your better depth pieces for picks that can very optimistically become as good as that player a few years down the line an intelligent move. Maybe they’ll luck out but I think the expected value of that move is certainly very low and there isn’t even much upside there. Like the 95th percentile outcome is what, you get two role players equal to McCain in a few years when Embiid’s body is even more cooked?
what’s the 95th percentile outcome of keeping him? a couple more second round exits while his development is stunted by playing behind VJ and Maxey and then we can’t justify extending him after his rookie contract?
I think you’re misreading the situation entirely. People think your franchise isn’t good enough to win right in this instance, and isn’t bad enough to be a bottom feeder. There’s lots of teams like that. The franchise itself can’t seem to make up its mind if it wants to win now or not, meanwhile Embiid seems to be aging 10 years for every 1 year that everyone else ages. Why gamble in the draft, when you’re competing right now with a guy that clearly only has so much left in the tank, AND THIS GUY CAN GIVE YOU BENCH MINUTES THAT YOU DESPERATELY NEED TO COMPETE.
The whole reason to trade McCain according to Morey was that you had too many guards, and the salary was pushing you over the cap. So instead of paying a little tax for a guy that clearly fills exactly the hole that exists in your team, the owner cheaped out.
i think everyone is overreacting. keeping McCain doesn’t make us a championship team simple as that
Bro you got an MVP too tf you talking about
yeah of course we got lucky with Embiid i’m grateful for that and would never deny it
People say this dumbass shit and then will say the Thunder would win 50+ games without Shai.
i never said that
Take Milwaukee or Denver for example.
He’s secured Ws in at least 2 playoff games for us so far. Massive trade
He was probably the bench x-factor in our wins the last two games against the Lakers
you would have the same record in the playoffs without him
I don’t agree tbh
He had a +/- of only +1 last game, despite scoring 18 points, in an 18 point win. He didn’t swing that game to the point that you wouldn’t have already beaten them with him off the floor.
Each of these games have reached garbage time
McCain in 2 games when it was in reach ended it
Idk about that his threes really swung momentum
No guarantee of that. Either way he still secured those wins by building solid leads in short order.
I’m just wondering what his market was. I know it’s annoying for some people, but Morey probably just took the best offer at the time, even if it came from OKC.
McCain was coming off an injury and not playing particularly well, even when Nurse would give him minutes. There probably was not much of a market.
Also, this is supposed to be a deep draft and there was always a chance the Rockets pick could move up.
That was never going to happen. They should’ve held out for their own pick or kept him. Getting the worst pick was so dumb and very on-brand for this team. They almost always make the wrong pick.
I always wonder how NBA trades go down. Do they call everyone? Do they have a list of assets they’re targeting so they only call those teams?
I know each trade is different, but it would be cool to see the behind the scenes of a trade.
Big ole it depends but normally starts with one front office calling one or a couple others and it goes from there.
The issue wasn’t Morey getting lowballed, it was trying to move off of McCain at all. The organization for some reason just didn’t want him.
Anyone who watched him on youtube before he got drafted knew he was gonna be a great locker room guy and a good player. OKC fleeced the 76ers.
I think Morey fleeced himself.
I need to drown my sorrows
Right?
For those of you who collect bball cards, Panini put McCain in a lot of sets and more specifically, insert sets. Really hoping he continues to have an upward trajectory.
Sixers FO is so fucking stupid. They should have sold high on Embiid. Now they are stuck with a corpse that is trying to break the world record for every possible illness, injury, and reason not to play.
Peace in my soul is not possible until our front office implodes
Yeah but thank god the sixers, the beacon of health and depth, don’t really need Jared McCain rn
Given how injury prone Embiid & PG are, is the McCain trade the Sixers version of the Luka trade lol?
We’ll have to wait and see what they make of the picks they received.
Honestly, Morey is a top tier drafter
He just can’t hold onto them.
He’s doing ok with VJ and Maxey so far. But when he wants to trade, I’ll happily trade with the man.
your franchise made one of the worst trades of all time with him
And some of the best trades of all time. What of it?
which one?
Idk, maybe trading Paul George for a crazy number of picks on top of SGA that led to the current championship runs? And we got PG for Oladipo and Sabonis, which we got from trading Ibaka. Have you guys made a better trade?
we were talking about trades specifically between Morey and Presti
True
What’s the pick though? The #22 this year? Philly could have used a scorer like McCain now. Nurse is playing a 7 man rotation.
Please be serious…
Trading McCain was fine. You guys are being a bit delusional about him actually. The issue was not reinforcing the roster / general failures of building the supporting cast.
I’m just joking lol
it’s insane how delusional y’all are about McCain. saying it’s a bad trade is one thing but comparing him to Luka is genuinely insane
I’m just having fun lol
Jared McCain.. I really liked him ngl. Then he gets traded to my top 7 most disliked 😤😤
I still would rather have the pick. Hope the Sixers get Jefferson.
I wonder how many of these fuck faces that support this lame shit on reddit actually live in the state
he’s still mad Morey’s team ended his best chance of going to the finals
I appreciate this level of loyalty, commitment, and delusion
this is an L for Blake. making fun of an active GM when you’re supposed to be an objective analyst. makes it even funnier that he famously blew a 3-1 to that guy’s team
It objectively looks like a terrible trade though regardless of what Blake thinks. 76ers are shooting ass in this Knicks series and they gave away a beloved rookie sharpshooter who has made the champions even more unstoppable
yeah it objectively looks like a bad trade if you completely ignore our side of it
A mediocre Rockets FRP and some seconds?
It could be anything! Maybe even a Jared McCain!
it’s not that rare to get a viable bench player with the 22nd pick
18 points in 18 minutes on high efficiency is elite star territory, not “viable bench player”. He’s a starter quality and very good shooter. He’s probably 4th best in his draft class. Sometimes you can find that, he’ll look where Jokic was. But it’s just not expected.
he also shot 5⁄14 and 1⁄5 from three in the first round. but yeah some garbage time threes against the Lakers puts him in “elite star territory”
What’s your side
What did Blake do? Anyway I don’t think these guys aren’t supposed to make jokes, I think that’s actually part of the job description. Morey made a bad trade. The guy is an elite drafter and a bad trade guy. Nothing wrong with people enjoying the situation that was rough for a young guy.