Actually-Yo-Momma

423 | 7 hours ago

YIKES there is absolutely no defending this stat holy shit

cardcollection92 | Knicks

195 | 7 hours ago

Probably the most wtf stat I’ve seen.

A lot of times I think narratives take over people’s thoughts on a player but he’s truly one of the worst superstar playoff performers of all time.

EarthWarping | NBA

48 | 6 hours ago

who even is 2nd? Like of any ATG (which reg season wise he is) hes by far the worst.

cardcollection92 | Knicks

65 | 6 hours ago

As a Knicks fan it pains me but probably Patrick Ewing

ZonedV2

30 | 6 hours ago

According to the twitter thread this was from Magic Johnson has more with 47

Ok-Street-2473

43 | 6 hours ago

I mean the number doesn’t matter, the percentage does. Also, Magic’s role is way less scoring-centric than Harden’s.

Doogolas33

16 | 5 hours ago

Magic had 186 games, still a ton, but Magic also wasn’t the main bucket getter. So it’s a lot more reasonable.

efshoemaker | Celtics

36 | 5 hours ago

Magic also has over 2k playoff assists.

Postseason averages for Magic were 19.⁵⁄₇.⁷⁄₁₂.3 with 3.7 turnovers.

Harden is at 22.⁴⁄₅.⁵⁄₆.5 with 3.5 turnovers.

Not really comparable

Aaddaammnn | Raptors

1 | 4 hours ago

Also though they called him “Tragic” Johnson, he had a lot of playoff struggles early in his career

Tupac061671

14 | 6 hours ago

Karl Malone.

KaiserSosai | Pistons

16 | 6 hours ago

He raped a 13 yo. Just in case anyone doesn’t know. Oh and read the Epstein files.

bronet

2 | 4 hours ago

Wait, he’s in those too?

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3 | 6 hours ago

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zucksucksmyberg | Lakers

6 | 6 hours ago

Just how Malone likes it

ddottay | Cavaliers

2 | 6 hours ago

Don’t think there’s another comparison in basketball. Tracy McGrady was notorious for playoff disappointments but he at least played well in all those first round losses.

FollowTheLeader550

17 | 6 hours ago

He did not play well in all of those 1st round losses. His averages were decent, but he was bad a lot.

sandote | Celtics

3 | 4 hours ago

As someone who was practically introduced to the NBA by him, he’s closer to Jaylen Brown than Kobe.

Ok_Pineapple_Num | Warriors

37 | 6 hours ago

Harden’s obviously one of the all-time NBA greats, but holy shit this is one of the absolute worst stats I’ve seen. There’s not even any cherry picking on here – having more TO’s than FG’s is diabolical in any game… and having that happen >¹⁄₄ of the time is CRAZY.

Dependabledog

10 | 6 hours ago

I’ve always felt like a majority -maybe even the vast majority- of talk regarding athletes buckling under pressure is mostly bunk but in Hardens case I don’t think it’s really debatable.

themysidianlegend | Lakers

1 | an hour ago

Cane here to say yikes. This is trrribad

NotUrAvgShitposter | Warriors

1 | 17 minutes ago

Is there? This is the same man that once scored 27 on 2 made field goals. He literally had 41/24/90 splits in a series and ended up averaging 33/6/7 on 60% TS cuz he had 15 FTAs per game. His value has always come from his volume and shot difficulty combined with goat foul baiting and top level playmaking. FG% or FGM has always been a shitty stat to use for harden

Plus career stats are irrelevant when the dude spent 40+ playoff games as a roleplayer and has been washed since he played on his hamstring as a decoy vs the bucks

PlexBabyPlexBaby1234 | NBA

-7 | 6 hours ago

I can defend it, but I won’t do so tonight because it will get voted down. James deserves whatever smoke he gets tonight, so have at it. Stay tuned though…

JiveHawk | Bulls

426 | 7 hours ago

This is truly an outrageous stat out of a literal league MVP

justWMthings03

124 | 6 hours ago

It’s his second in 2 games this series. 7 turnovers with 6 FGs in game 1.

He’s 9 for 28, 1 for 11 from 3, with 11 turnovers through 2 games

Excellent-Refuse4883 | Supersonics

43 | 5 hours ago

He saw people defending him after game 7 against Toronto and was like “I’ll show them. Nobody says playoff Harden isn’t terrible!”

Aaddaammnn | Raptors

10 | 4 hours ago

He wasn’t even good in game 7 Jarrett Allen single handedly took us to school

Excellent-Refuse4883 | Supersonics

2 | 4 hours ago

That’s what I’ve been yelling at everyone

nutelamitbutter | Rockets

6 | 4 hours ago

In his Defense, his athleticism is cooked. He’s still very sloppy with the ball though.

Opening-Eagle4761 | Pistons

71 | 6 hours ago

He needs to invite the referees to his Hall of Fame acceptance speech

gmwdim | Pistons

7 | 5 hours ago

“You da real MVP”

(points at refs)

Waste-Milk2716

6 | 6 hours ago

The MVP is for the regular season

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2 | 7 hours ago

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Waste-Milk2716

-1 | 6 hours ago

He actually deserves to have two. Westbrook in 2017 was a robbery

PianoJealous307

1 | 6 hours ago

In 2019 too, he was not robbed because Giannis had a great season, but Harden had one of the best scoring season of all times, so he had a case.

redmostofit | Nuggets

1 | 17 minutes ago

Especially for someone who led the league in scoring 3 times.

vHezoThaGoat

204 | 7 hours ago

And mfs really think he’s better than D Wade😭

Lobster15s | Heat

46 | 6 hours ago

Easiest way to sort out who has an opinion worth listening to. It turns out defense is half the game of basketball and being elite on both sides is better than just elite on one.

Sw3atyGoalz | Lakers

3 | an hour ago

You don’t even need to factor in the defense when Harden has stats like this one

No-Abrocoma7687 | Pistons

27 | 5 hours ago

Dude ain’t better than Dean Wade right now

alilhillbilly | Bulls

6 | 6 hours ago

roflol

Giannis1995 | Heat

3 | 4 hours ago

Wade is so much better, it’s disrespectful comparisons are even made

Dudedude88 | Wizards

1 | 36 minutes ago

Offensively yeah but d wade was a two way player. This is what puts him on top.

Gamerghost44 | Thunder

0 | 2 hours ago

99% of people who think Harden is better are transphobic dipshits who unsurprisingly also disrespect the WNBA every chance they get.

Electromotivation

2 | an hour ago

whats the connection?

Gamerghost44 | Thunder

1 | an hour ago

One of DWade’s kids is trans and he’s supportive. A lot of people hate on him for it. Many of these people go on to call Harden better.

imadogg | Lakers

-1 | 2 hours ago

Bro this subreddit full of 12yr old regular season ts% watchers say he’s better than Kobe

lightninja987 | IND

-65 | 6 hours ago

I mean he literally is tho, this just shows how great he is

Great_Barrier_Thief_ | Heat

33 | 6 hours ago

What?

lightninja987 | IND

-40 | 6 hours ago

Like the fact that his playoff performances are so bad but he’s still ranked higher than d wade shows how skilled he is

cardcollection92 | Knicks

45 | 6 hours ago

Do you stretch before doing those mental gymnastics?

OldCardigan | Lakers

14 | 6 hours ago

I’ll adopt this answer from now on, thanks

confusedyetstillgoin

4 | 5 hours ago

Indiana education proving itself with this comment

- source, born and raised in Indiana

HereIGoAgain_1x10 | Cavaliers

2 | 4 hours ago

Actually it shows how unintelligent anyone is that thinks he’s better, you’re the case in point.

Infamous_East6230 | Heat

5 | 6 hours ago

Lmao

Ok-Street-2473

4 | 6 hours ago

I do think there’s an argument for Harden over Wade, but this absolutely does not show anything positive for Harden.

WubaDubImANub | Lakers

2 | 4 hours ago

I’d take Harden over Wade personally but how tf does this shed Harden in a positive light at all

Dramatic_Barber7113

1 | 3 hours ago

Then you wouldn’t have any rings

FollowTheLeader550

172 | 7 hours ago

The James Harden cycle.

After an actual playoff game - harden is horrible.

after an actual playoff series - wow. harden is truly terrible.

after a couple months - you know, his teammates didn’t show up.

middle of the regular season when he’s averaging 23 and 9 and his team is 14 game over 500 - he actually has 4 hypothetical rings, because we are giving him a hypothetical title for every year the Warriors were good.

Been this on repeat for a decade.

Quality_Cucumber | GSW

61 | 6 hours ago

LeBron ain’t losing to Harden, even if they beat the Warriors in 2017. I don’t care. Ain’t no way.

PROSEALLTHEWAY | San Francisco Warriors

36 | 6 hours ago

I say this ALL THE TIME!! Like, say the Rockets don’t miss a hundred 3s in a row and choke that game away and they get Prime LeBron in the Finals. Do you really fucking think Harden is gonna outplay Bron?? It’s so insulting to Bron to say that it would just be a cakewalk for Harden, who has literally never been the best player in a playoff series. It gets me so heated bro. Bron would dogwalk Harden. He’d score 50 a game and Harden would shoot 10% from the field when Bron guarded him. It would be a massacre. The best thing that Harden stans have is Paul being injured, because then they can make up a fantasy where James is a different person who can outplay the goat and jerk off to it all over reddit.

Quality_Cucumber | GSW

28 | 6 hours ago

Damn bro you heated haha

iiTryhard | Celtics

3 | 4 hours ago

Bro definitely furiously jerked it to his LeBron poster after typing that

KungFuChicken1990 | Lakers

0 | 4 hours ago

Gotta get rid of your hate-boner somehow

randylek | Warriors

1 | 26 minutes ago

lol I’ve realised that most warriors fans (myself included) have come to respect how good LeBron was in his prime

I mean after all it makes beating him those years so much sweeter knowing that he was genuinely AT WORST the second best basketball player to ever exist

zuqkfplmehcuvrjfgu | HOU

10 | 3 hours ago

This take being upvoted is actual jokes. Even if Bron averages 50 a game, the Cavs in 2018 would lose to the Rockets.

Remember, that team has no Kyrie, KLove as the second best scorer with 14ppg on 39% from the field, and no other double digit scorer. The Rockets had a legit second star in CP3 and significantly more depth.

Ignorant ass takes like this are literally the same as the old heads who shit on Bron when they say shit like “Jordan would have beaten the warriors in ‘15 because of killer mentality.” Vague statements with nothing but vibes to back them up.

millenniumpianist | Lakers

5 | 2 hours ago

100% agree. Everyone knew the 2018 WCF were the real Finals. LeBron might make it a series because he’s prime LeBron but that 2017 Cavs roster was washed as hell

gjaxx

1 | 3 hours ago

Imagine getting this heated over basketball players lmao, who know nothing of your existence. Touch grass

lightninja987 | IND

-20 | 6 hours ago

I mean harden lowkey has a better resume than bron

DebateGlass | Lakers

6 | 5 hours ago

What. The. Fuck.

Fallendeity1

3 | 4 hours ago

Sybau. That’s all you deserve for a response after that dumb statement.

FollowTheLeader550

23 | 6 hours ago

No, sir. Harden is a 17x NBA champ. His team would’ve went on to win the championship every year if they didn’t lose and he wasn’t horrible in the process.

jimihenderson

2 | 36 minutes ago

I mean it’s basically indisputable that if there were no other good players in the NBA he would’ve easily cruised to multiple titles. That alone is HoF worthy imo. Anyone who can’t acknowledge that is delusional, you put him in the WNBA and he’s probably the literal GOAT. Just a complete victim of circumstance and will forever get tons of hate and disrespect for it.

Seaman_First_Class | Rockets

2 | an hour ago

You mean 2018 right?

So the cavs who got killed (4-0 btw) by the warriors were a better team than the rockets who took them to 4-3? That’s your take right now?

Dudedude88 | Wizards

1 | 33 minutes ago

This is what I was thinking. Like let’s say they beat them…. Rockets were specifically built to beat the warriors but not cleveland.

Jarxzz | United States

18 | 6 hours ago

Don’t forgot his infamous 2018 series where apparently almost “solo beat the KD Warriors”

His stats in games Houston won that series

Game 2: 27/10/3 with 4 turnovers on 50.7 TS%

Game 4: 30/4/4 on 53.2 TS%

Game 5: 19/3/4 with 6 turnovers on 38.1 TS% (0-11 from 3)

DolphinsFan15521

11 | 5 hours ago

Anyone who watches basketball and knows what they are watching knew the only reason the Rockets were up 3-2 was CP3. He was controlling the pace, hitting clutch middies, and getting the shooters involved. As soon as he went down it was obvious what was gonna happen.

Daddy_Macron | Rockets

12 | 5 hours ago

As soon as he went down it was obvious what was gonna happen.

Because the Rockets 2nd best player became Eric Gordon after Chris Paul went down while the Warriors were still fielding a starting lineup of Curry, Klay, KD, and Draymond, all in their prime. What the fuck did you think was going to happen?

Seriously, how do you expect a starting lineup of James Harden, Eric Gordon, Trevor Ariza, PJ Tucker, and Clint Capela to perform against Curry, Klay, KD, Draymond, and Looney? Because you’re claiming Harden lost the series for the Rockets.

I watched the same series as you and Harden constantly attracting double teams opened up the floor for Chris Paul like never before in Paul’s career. It was his best playoff series because he wasn’t the focal point of the offense all the time and he could share playmaking duties with Harden at any moment.

Sw3atyGoalz | Lakers

1 | an hour ago

It’s crazy how much credit he gets for that series. He had a few good games in the losses, but it’s insane that people act like he was carrying the Rockets.

thiagosilva2 | TOR

11 | 6 hours ago

[Just gotta wait till May if someone argues with you about Harden

realsomalipirate | Raptors

3 | 5 hours ago

Mind you it’s basically rockets flairs still pushing this nonsense and they usually disappear when Harden plays like playoff Harden. I’ve never seen a fanbase go this hard for a player they didn’t draft and didn’t win them a title (dude even forced his way off the team in an embarrassing way).

BillPaxton4eva | Celtics

3 | 4 hours ago

The last step:

Quit on a team, leverage a trade that hurts his team and teammates: “he deserves a title and did nothing wrong, it was always someone else’s fault”

DoobieGibson

3 | 4 hours ago

people who watch games vs bball ref boys

EarthWarping | NBA

75 | 7 hours ago

almost got the ²⁄₁₁ Harden special stat line too.

Ironredhornet | Pistons

12 | 5 hours ago

³⁄₁₃ is fitting for playing against Detroit

hiimred2 | CLE

2 | 3 hours ago

Fuck Free World, 3 1 3.

I watched 8 Mile like everyone else my age I don’t actually know shit about reppin Detroit.

BussinInUrSister

56 | 7 hours ago

Morey told the truth

PROSEALLTHEWAY | San Francisco Warriors

4 | 6 hours ago

Nick Wright too

Boldthrone_1

51 | 7 hours ago

I’ve never seen a star as big as harden be such a playoff dropper. I would say in all sports even.

At least Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen actually play well in the playoffs.

niel89 | Warriors

11 | 6 hours ago

I don’t think I’ve seen anyone actually praise Lamar’s playoff play before. He’s clearly progressed as a postseason player, but it feels nice as a ravens fan to see someone acknowledge it.

Dudedude88 | Wizards

1 | 31 minutes ago

I think he’s now showed he’s good enough. Now some of our shortcomings may stem from play calling

BussinInUrSister

5 | 7 hours ago

Westbrook

ihatedougford | Toronto Huskies

33 | 7 hours ago

Obviously efficiency isn’t in his favour but I can remember more good Westbrook performances in the playoffs than Harden

RileyHuey | South Sudan

17 | 6 hours ago

Westbrook isn’t a choker, he’s just always relatively inefficient. His playoff TS% is only 2% below his regular season TS%. Same as KD. We just assume Russ ‘chokes’ because he’s inefficient, but that’s his norm so it’s hard to call him that big a playoff dropper

engagew | SEA

-2 | 4 hours ago

2% is a big drop in ts btw. .520 to 502 is pretty huge

wsteelerfan7 | Pacers

5 | 4 hours ago

Garden’s for Houston dropped from .612 to .578. A difference of 3.4% vs 1.8%

realsomalipirate | Raptors

-2 | 5 hours ago

Another regular season legend

Netero_29

1 | 3 hours ago

When does Lamar play well in the playoffs lol or Josh Allen

ianbits | Cavaliers

26 | 7 hours ago

Good chance he ends up passing nasty man’s record for most playoff games without a chip. Dude just has an issue.

chrissw86

25 | 7 hours ago

And next season we’ll see at least 20 posts about him being better than Wade and all sorts of nonsense

The810kid

12 | 6 hours ago

Those posts never happen after Taxes are due.

dudewithchronicpain | Pistons

23 | 7 hours ago

He also soft as fuck

bershka321

10 | 6 hours ago

James Soften

Rj070707

19 | 6 hours ago

Biggest choker In this sports history 100%

This is his legacy in playoffs, probably the worst of any star in NBA history

not_so_bueno | Rockets

18 | 7 hours ago

As a Rockets fan, this is just who he is. Great regular season player and may have a title with CP3, but far too many implosions.

PROSEALLTHEWAY | San Francisco Warriors

-2 | 6 hours ago

Bron would’ve dog walked that squad

iiTryhard | Celtics

5 | 4 hours ago

I get you’re a lebron dick rider trying to hide behind a warriors flair, but 2018 Cavs weren’t winning shit against the west, hate to break it to you

Seaman_First_Class | Rockets

1 | an hour ago

Lebron and the milkmen and plumbers who got swept by GSW? Okay dude.

adammoon111 | San Diego Rockets

-3 | 6 hours ago

He got swept lol

No_Albatross916 | Pistons

14 | 6 hours ago

Has to be one of the worst playoff performers ever

Enough_Ad_5795

11 | 7 hours ago

Wow!! That is a crazy number indeed - 25% of the playoff games. Talk about a playoff disappearance

msizzle344 | Heat

8 | 6 hours ago

Never use my goats name to prop up this bum again. There are levels to this

SurpriseDonovanMcnab | Pistons

9 | 7 hours ago

Ausar pushed him lol

comeonmang126 | Pistons

5 | 7 hours ago

We get more harden slander than pistons praise lol

under9o | Thunder

5 | 7 hours ago

that’s actually an incredible stat

IT_CHAMP | Pelicans

5 | 7 hours ago

must see tv

Hungry_Service_5810

5 | 6 hours ago

I got 2 words for you

RealLanceStorm | Nets

7 | 6 hours ago

His fans take over this sub all season trying to rewrite history and pretend this doesn’t exist. Hell, they are already going after Mitchell.

But that crowd gets real fucking quiet on nights like tonight (or the other 45 times)

ZonedV2

6 | 6 hours ago

Do you have a source for this, I’m sure when this was posted the other day someone corrected it as 30? Even though that’s still crazy

FollowTheLeader550

9 | 6 hours ago

That was more turnovers than shots made. This is as many turnovers as shots made. So all of the games where he had like 6 makes and 6 turnovers as well as games like tonight, where he had 3 makes and 4 turnovers.

He also has like 3 times as many playoff games with 5 or less makes than games with 10 or more makes.

XviiChong | Raptors

5 | 6 hours ago

It’s 30 games if it’s more turnovers than field goals. This statistic for the main post accounts for as many or more turnovers as field goals

justwriteforme | Warriors

5 | 6 hours ago

This stat is can support the entire narrative on its own.

Soapstarboi | Cavaliers

5 | 6 hours ago

It’s just either flop (help me ref) or turnover

CostAccomplished981

5 | 6 hours ago

That’s a wild stat. James Haram

kk16 | Pistons

2 | 6 hours ago

Gotta be the worst performing superstar in the playoffs of all time right?

LockAndDen | Rockets

5 | 6 hours ago

I knew this post was coming when he had that 4th TO 😂

Flash_jh13

5 | 6 hours ago

Who the fuck told me to pick James Harden as my favorite player as a kid?🫩

joeveralls | Thunder

3 | 6 hours ago

That’s a crazy stat

josephfuckingsmith1 | Pistons

5 | 6 hours ago

James Soften

Can’t stand watching this dude hoop

fredovan | Raptors

3 | 6 hours ago

85% of the active players in the NBA have not played in 46 playoff games. Just one more way to realize how insane this Harden stat is.

tulogProject

3 | 6 hours ago

Thunder, Rockets, Nets, 76ers, Clippers to the Cavs: “First time?” XD

Iggy_Slayer

3 | 5 hours ago

Charles barkley was JUST talking about this like a day ago too and draymond was arguing trying to defend harden. Then he goes out and immediately does it again 😂

j1h15233 | HOU

2 | 6 hours ago

Cavs fans were so excited when they got him lol

narcistic_asshole | Cavaliers

7 | 6 hours ago

Nah we were mostly having a meltdown over it when the trade happened. Then he played a few regular season games for us and we were excited, then we watched him in the playoffs and now we’re back to melting down

desirox | Mavericks

2 | 6 hours ago

Harden is the ultimate playoff choker

Redsneeks3000

2 | 6 hours ago

Bright lights will getcha.

Icy_Steak8987 | NBA

1 | 4 hours ago

So will strip clubs.

No_Mode_3746 | Jazz

2 | 6 hours ago

But he was supposed to be the missing link

Icy_Steak8987 | NBA

2 | 4 hours ago

He was definitely missing tonight.

IAmCBOY2 | Celtics

2 | 6 hours ago

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/1swi6re/comment/oifqs8m/?context=3

Can’t believe this sub won’t admit that he’s garbage in the playoffs

S-ClassRen | SAS

2 | 6 hours ago

I fucking love shit on Harden day

kemicalkontact

2 | 6 hours ago

Insane how he shrinks time and time again

JayLove29

2 | 5 hours ago

Can’t rely on him in the playoffs when it truly counts

A_Diabolical_Toaster

2 | 5 hours ago

Truly one of the best hate watches ever.

Giannis1995 | Heat

2 | 4 hours ago

Up until last week clowns were comparing this guy to playoff killer D Wade.

Ashwin74

2 | 4 hours ago

Cavs tried to improve their playoffs by trading for an ageing player who has never proven himself in the playoffs

Raven-19x | Spurs

1 | 6 hours ago

What a crazy stat lmao.

jawntothefuture | 76ers

1 | 6 hours ago

I really don’t get it. James is one of the best to ever do it, but he consistently shits the bed in the playoffs. It is a bummer

DangoRangusss

1 | 6 hours ago

Zach Lowe just got so excited

nutelamitbutter | Rockets

1 | 4 hours ago

he looks rough this series

Vindicare605 | Lakers

1 | 4 hours ago

This will be his legacy.

bmoreboy410 | Mavericks

1 | 4 hours ago

That is insane…

soda_cookie | Kings

1 | 4 hours ago

Unclutch af

Flaky_Scar_8388 | Rockets

1 | 3 hours ago

He has only had one playoff run where he didn’t completely meltdown. The year he won the MVP and the Rockets took the Warriors to 7 games in the WCF

msing | Clippers

1 | 2 hours ago

I’ve never seen a guy just shut it down during the playoffs. I don’t get it. A total non-factor. He just disappears. Yet, he’s one of the greatest regular season players.

33spacecowboys | Celtics

1 | 2 hours ago

James harden is the Tony romo of basketball

kingstonc

1 | an hour ago

at least credit inside the nba for this stat…

Creative_Parsnip_385 | Warriors

1 | an hour ago

Gotta get the ft numbers in there too

tripleyothreat

1 | an hour ago

Oh and apparently there’s 5 people ahead of him that have more games with more turnovers than fgs? Crazy!!

EliteFactor

1 | an hour ago

And yall traded for him

sxuthsi | Pistons

-2 | 6 hours ago

You can always count on this subreddit being ready to shit on him for literally anything at all, not surprised in the slightest

James Harden played his 182nd career playoff game tonight. With 4 turnovers and 3 made field goals, it was his 46th playoff game that’s he’s had as many or more turnovers than made field goals. That’s over 25% of his career playoff games.