Tyrese Haliburton on Shai’s flopping: “It’s so overblown. Selling is part of the game.”
The haliban defending shaisis
He loves Shai lol
I feel like the only player I’ve seen dislike Shai is Jaden McDaniels lmao
Jaden hates everyone
At least he doesn’t discriminate.
Equal opportunity hater
Equal rights, equal lefts
“I hate you, I hate you, I don’t even know you and I hate your guts”
“I hope everything bad in life happens to you and nobody else but you.”
Jaden is the Most Valuable Hater for sure.
I wish the Pacers had Jaden, that dude is an absolute dogg.
I love that guy
yeah that definitely seems to check out
And we all love Mcdaniels
I dont think Jaden likes anyone beyond the wolves.
If one of his teammates got traded though, I feel like he’d just text them “fuck you, lose my number.”
The Mike Conley trades and eventual return must have been a real roller coaster for him
And brown
Jaylen likes SGA just not the flopping part. He’s given SGA his flowers before, it just wasn’t clipped because it doesn’t get clicks
Jaylen comes across like a nut conspiracist from a South Park episode to me. Complains about Shai and flopping in the league and then proceeds to sell contact and flop as much as anyone else from what I’ve seen.
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It’s crazy how this is lost on everyone and people still call him “smart”
He’s not anti-vax. Idk why sub keeps saying that. He literally said he was glad his friends, family, and the league was getting vaxxed.
https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/s/k7a1ncvWCk
He takes shots at Shai every time he’s on stream. Maybe he doesn’t hate him, but he certainly does not like him with the amount of hate he amplifies towards him.
“I just wanted to foul him for real. I wasn’t even mad, I just had fouls to use.”
Only things Tyrese hates are losing & the Bucks.
Don’t forget about the Knicks too
With the MVP too
Find you a man that will defend you like Hali defends Shai
And we love Hali genuinely the coolest guy in the league in my book at the moment
Embidladen appreciates the help
Al-Shaida, get it right, you pleb.
I like Al-Cade-uh more personally
Don’t mention Deni. Don’t mention Deni. Don’t mention Deni.
Shaidolf teamed up with the Hallies
Hali softening the flop stance so he can incorporate it in his return
Also he lost to this guy in the finals, if he goes after him he looks like a bitch.
So hypothetically, how would someone look if they spent days on twitch going after the guys who just came back against his team down 3-1 in the first round? Hypothetically.
According to shit I read upvoted in this sub yesterday: “Candid and earnest”
my bad, it was actually “candid and transparent” lol
Surprised that they arent able to reel him in and he keeps going at it. I guess they think its better to get this shit out of his system. People forget he was snubbed by Team USA. He has more than 1 chip on his shoulder.
I mean, “snubbed”, in the way that lots of players get “snubbed” all the time.
I’m only a 43 year old, plump 6ft 235 lb dude, I can’t believe they snubbed me too
maybe he just likes shai lol. not everything is a conspiracy to support your personal feelings about shai
he also said shai was his mvp this year
Yea and he’s also correct. Wild, right?
Well technically he didn’t?
How does he look like a bitch? He popped his Achilles in game 7
The way that host talks is exactly how stupid this sub’s comments sound to me
If you want to feel better about this sub go check the r/nbatalk sub. Makes everyone here sound like intellectuals.
I’ve said it 100 times, that sub is the r/conservative of basketball. I will die on this hill.
Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but I read that nbatalk was initially created by people who thought the mods here were too woke or something along those lines. Explain why the userbase feels like they came straight out of a Facebook comments section.
pretty much every “talk” sports sub is just for people who got banned from the main subs lol
It was created after a rogue mod hijacked r/nbadiscussion, that was an actual good sub at the time.
Now they both suck in their own ways, all cuz that one dick-hole mod.
SubReddit Drama post about it
Best part the creator of NBATalk says:
For OG r/NBADiscussion members who want an actual subreddit for serious discussion, I just made r/NBATalk. It’ll be similar to the original r/nbadiscussion - a smaller, more chill community, with better moderation and higher quality discussion.
Same focus group - middle to elderly aged Facebook dads
And algorithmed-to-fuck broccoli-hair boys.
I think its actually younger since I have seen people genuinely ask “who was more hated? SGA now or Lebron on the Heat?” over there.
HERE’S WHY LEBRON ISN’T ACTUALLY BETTER THAN [STAR PLAYER ON MY TEAM]
I don’t think I’ve seen one other NBA related sub that is well populated and not the gathering of the most bottom barrel ass takes imaginable.
most of those people are also in here slinging shit takes lol
r/nbatalk is the real jerk subreddit
Most of these subs that branch off from the main sub are complete dog shit.
Yeah, the takes they come up with are somehow worse and they think they’re geniuses for it
That place is genuinely close to instagram level of ball knowledge lmao 🤣
This place is basically 80% the same userbase at this point.
right, i literally see the same users over there, the only difference is the moderation. NBATalk serves it purpose as the dumb little brother of r/nba
*dumber little brother
I unsubbed from and muted that awful place yesterday. It’s getting a bit difficult to find places to talk ball these days. Way too much idiocy, ragebait, hostility etc in NBA spaces going on
It’s true of every basketball or even sports related subs these days. I don’t think I’ve seen this much toxic shit during the playoffs. Unironically this sub is far and away the best sub for discussion now
Basically all basketball subs besides nbadiscussion are worse than this one. And they’re also all full of guys who think basketball peaked in the 90s. They speak in talking points, they’re dumb in the most predictable way.
The same sub that says Stephen A Smith has done more damage to NBA discourse but parrots the same takes as him lmfao
That sub is literally a bunch of kids who spend way too much time on bball reference vs watching games and also take themselves very seriously
that sub is genuinely the sames posts over and over again
I mean they are using brickcentre to make their case ☠️
THINK OF THE CHILDREN
He’s probably a mod haha
That’s all of Reddit.
Sounds like he’s exaggerating but I don’t know if he’s always like this
yeah it’s clearly tongue in cheek, he’s just playing the heel/devil’s advocate to set up Haliburton’s points
It’s one of Pat McAfee suckoff friends.
He looks like exactly what I picture most r/NBA posters to be in real life.
It’s Pat McAfee. He plays all sides of the argument.
Hali that’s not the narrative they looking for bud lol
Haha they tried to lead the witness so hard 🤣
Should have brought in JB if they wanted the clicks lol 😂
Ha, Hali always been a real one and the game is better with him healthy.
Its funny that clip being used is a foul, SGA was tripped down low as well.
And he was going up to go shoot but lost control of the ball. It looks funny but it isn’t really anything when you actually stop and look at it.
Yeah anybody that’s played basketball knows you flail a bit when you unexpectedly lose the ball. It’s just like when you drop anything and try and catch it actually, the surprise usually makes people look silly.
I think the issue is that fans don’t like that it’s apart of the game, but players know it’s apart of the game, and not every player respects that it’s a part of the game
A top 15 NBA player defending/praising Shai? downvoted. Nick Wrong shitting out another ragebait ‘take’ about Shai and OKC? 10k upvotes
God I hate Nick Wright takes.
Players aren’t wrong that it’s objectively part of the game in terms of winning and getting calls and furthering your career.
Fans aren’t wrong that it sucks to watch
The nuance here is that the hate is now mostly misplaced then. Dogpiling on a few players for flopping ridiculous if you know that it’s a part of the game and will benefit players that do it. Players know it’s not as fun to watch, but they are more incentivized to win than to please fans. If you’re a fan and you know its a part of the game now, and complain about players and not at the league for allowing it, then you’re just complaining that its other teams doing it or players you dislike doing it and not at the enjoyment of the games or the dishonesty of flopping
The issue isint having a discussion about if it sucks to watch, it’s the constant unfair witch hunt around Shai for something he literally does no more than almost every other volume scorer in the last 20 years. It’s gotten completely out of hand and it’s completely fucked his perception to casuals who get wrapped up in these takes
It’s not real, Shai is literally being tripped in the clip the guy is running calling it a flop. It’s as overblown as Hali is saying here.
But to Hali’s point, it’s gotten way overblown. You watch the game and you may see a Shai flop twice the entire game. Then you get on Reddit or whatever and you’d think he literally flopped everytime he touched the ball.
Because most people don’t watch the games. They get their info through Tiktok and Instagram. And on these platforms house of highlights and bleacher report will post the 1 “questionable” call Shai gets in a game and it will blow up and people just run with the narrative that that’s how he gets all of his calls.
When in reality he’s getting hacked 90% of the time because he’s unguardable
It’s because the nephews were raised on rage bait driven algorithms with 15 second clips. They’re trained to seek out something to be mad about and they don’t have the mental capacity to watch anything longer than a clip. They had no desire to actually be correct, they just want to feel smug and look down their noses at someone who is better than them or the team they support.
If you get fouled and sell the contact you’re a flopper and a disgrace to the game. If you get fouled but don’t sell, well you probably missed the shot or turned the ball over and now you’re a fraud/trash/the most overrated player ever. Dammed if you do and damned if you don’t.
This sub is so hypocritical, will defend the players endlessly and hate the pundits whenever it suits them or when that’s how the people in charge of this sub want the narrative to be, but in this case now it’s somehow different and then they switch it up because that’s the narrative lol
I 100% guarantee that this wouldn’t be nearly as much of a topic if the Thunder didn’t win the finals or SGA didn’t win an MVP last year
hey! It’s not only nick wright, doris burke also thinks shai is a disgrace to the game, so we should not consider the opinion of people who get paid to ball and instead take word for word what people paid to get clicks and views say!
I don’t like that part of the game
I hate it actually
I think pretty much everyone agrees. Hali’s point is just that shai isn’t the only one doing it, and quite frankly doesn’t even do it the most but has become the poster child for it because his team is the one winning.
The problem isn’t just shai, it’s league wide (other than very few stars like steph and Ant), but people place a much bigger emphasis on shai. If people wanted to watch NBA games to farm clips of stars flopping, like these “brick center” accounts do with shai, they would find just as many clips in every game. But Shai is the one whose clips drives the most engagement right now.
Also, the fact that we are at some of the lower amount of FTs per game historically tell me it really isn’t that big of an issue and is driven more by social media’s algorithmic drive to enrage people because that gets engagement. Of course, flopping is annoying and it happens in the league, but I swear this wouldn’t be a big agenda without algorithmic style social media. I enjoy pretty much every game I watch, and Shai is pretty masterful when you don’t have someone in your ear complaining about free throw merchant.
I find it funny being the face of something that is wholly on the officials.
You know why someone flails on contact? Because a dude getting elbowed in the nose no-selling doesn’t even get a foul called while blood is flowing a lot of the time.
Steven Adams is the perfect example of what happens when you don’t sell contact. That guy would get his ass kicked every game and just takes in on the chin, and he didn’t get free throws for it a lot of the time.
Also, even if he is the best flopper, its still the Refs and the nba’s fault. The guy is out here to win, I will always respect that.
This is pretty much it. Defense needs to be given a chance to have more contact. If the offensive player creates the contact should not be a foul. Should be a charge if he moves the defender (nowhere in the rules the does it say the defender has to fall for a charge) or a no call.
If the offense can shoot through the defense and get a call, fine. But don’t let the offense push the defense off. That’s such fucking bullshit because obviously the defense is fucked either way
The only thing that can be done about it is start calling embellishment whether you get fouled or not.
It’s undeniable the refs are more likely to see or react to contact if the player sells it, so unless you’re penalized more for doing so players are incentivized to do it.
This sub is hilarious because an NBA player saying this will get no traction but a random dude like Colin cowherd saying it’s unwatchable gets thousands of upvotes
Because they’re mostly teenagers/early 20’s that grew up having youtube and streamers and influencers tell them what to think.
Or people do not like flopping. It is not complicated.
Probably because nobody disagrees that it’s part of the game. People just think it sucks to watch. They’re not mutually exclusive, both can be true.
Because players are *check notes* playing the game while fans are WATCHING FOR ENTERTAINMENT.
“Selling” is not entertaining and Tyrese is speaking from a player standpoint. Yes it’s part of the game now and it’s up to the NBA to improve the quality of their product by cutting out the cancer.
If there was detriment instead of benefit to flopping it would happen significantly less.
I thought we had gotten rid of Skip Bayless and Cowherd from this sub 10 years ago
The audenience is primed to be petty, delusional, and hateful by the algorithm. Shai is literally being tripped in the clip shown in the podcast. We are on the verge of AI clipshows for clicks soon if people don’t put down their damn pitchforks and stop feeding the beast.
People get paid for any engagement, negative does very well in places like Twitter and Reddit.
I agree, some dudes sit there watching games hyper analyzing every move Shai does lol
Shai tried his dark arts a few times in the first quarter. It wasn’t even called and led to a missed FG and a couple of turnovers. He played normally the rest of the game, through plenty of contact btw, and had several nice highlight plays crossing up and knifing through our entire defense that have gone completely unnoticed. His PR is so awful it’s funny
If he has one flop in a game it’ll be posted all over social media and talked about endlessly. Kills basketball discussion but it is what it is at this point
Conversely, Wemby had a handful of flops last night and basically nobody cares.
Including me. I don’t care Wemby flopped. It’s part of the game, people shouldn’t get so worked up over it whether it’s SGA or Wemby or whoever. But instead there’s this ridiculous double standard for SGA.
Yeah I don’t actually care either. It’s just the glaring hypocrisy
On some he tried to sell the call but all of them were legitimately fouls. The problem is that NBA fans only look at the top part of the body when judging to see if it’s a foul when it’s the whole body. The perfect example is on his drive against Ayton, Ayton trips him, that’s a foul. It wasn’t called so we move on, yet people are obsessed with the aesthetic of someone’s gameore than the game itself. No foul was called it was a turnover. Isn’t that what people have been learning for? Yet you see these clips of no calls that are getting thousands of views and discussion. That is just made up outrage for engagement
wow. im surprised to see a lake flair being this graceful
yeah he flopped, but then played pretty solid for 30 minutes
and crying about it. GROWN MEN btw and I’m not even a thunder fan.
The funniest thing for this sub for the past year has been the constant cycle of people complaining about OKC, then OKC fans complaining about people complaining about OKC, then people complaining about OKC fans complaining about people complaining about OKC, and on and on
They dont watch the games tho lol
Not that weird…. It happens when you are currently one of if not THE best player playing on the best team in NBA. It also probably adds that differences nowadays between top 4 MVPs are really small and people want to justify why their favorite baller deserves it more.
shai, wemby, jokic and luka all “flop and bait”.. i’m not sure that’s the deciding factor for anyone but the incredibly dense.
I think the difference is when those other top players make great plays those plays get just as many upvotes and get just as much traction online as the hate does. With Shai, unless it’s like a game winning shot, that shit gets suppressed on this site specifically a lot. You can’t have a normal conversation about the guy on here no matter the thread.
They cry about the 3 ball era and reminisce about the good ol’ days of scoring. Then the closest thing to Kobe/MJ comes along and they fucking hate him lol.
MJ had 20+ FTA 24 times.
Kobe hit 20+ FTA 21 times.
Shai has had 4.
Jordan’s peak was 11.9 FTA in 1987. 10.5 in 1988. 9.8 in 1989.
Shai’s peak FTA is 10.9 in 2025 and he’s at 9.2 this season.
Yeah it’s just a byproduct of the Thunder being the best team. They will be overanalyzed. And many will hate them because of it and many Thunder fans will defend them because of it. If the Thunder were an average 4 seed then we’d all be whining about Wemby getting to foul and goal tend instead.
They hyper analyze the highlight of the one or two flops per game. They dont analyze anything else lol
Haliburton FC I’ll always defend you
Ngl the crazier part for me is Pat McAfee gave one of the best takes I’ve seen on SGA lmao and perfectly encapsulates the hate farming
Saying he watched him play live, was super impressed with him, thought he couldn’t miss. And then he got on social media and saw a hate train about flopping and thought he watched an entirely different game.
Lol reminds me of last playoffs when I had some of my buddies over to watch the finals, they are hockey fans who’s only perception of basketball is the big accounts main narratives etc. they always give me a hard time about Shai, they watched those games and were genuinely in awe of what they watched and basically had the exact same reaction as McAfee
These guys shilling out brickcentre and heroofday clips is so funny cause these 2 twitter accounts LIVE for Shai engagement. Especially heroofday, he’s genuinely racist and homophobic and doesn’t get engagement without mentioning black players, specifically Shai
The incessant Shai hate makes a lot more sense when you realize it literally pays the bills for those accounts. Hitleroftheday gets no engagement unless he’s tweeting Shai then it’s 100k likes. Theyre literally profiting from the hate so they’re not gonna stop
This is what people don’t realize when it comes to the increase in negativity over the past 3-4 years. Being unreasonable gets way more engagement than being authentic, knowledgeable, or unbiased. Almost certainly a result of short form content that apps like TikTok started to popularize.
Dude there’s a genuine economy around Shai hate atp on X, it’s paying multiple accounts bills
Shai is paying this guys rents
Daily reminder that the internet is not real life
Everyone on reddit is just narrative hunting to validate themselves and their opinions. It’s pretty funny to see how much energy is put into it
The cycle of r/nba:
Clips of SGA foul baiting and podcasters complaining about it go viral one day.
The next day clips of people defending it and saying everyone does it goes viral.
Rinse and repeat. The fact that this is constantly being talked about is a problem for the league.
Yep. I agree with Hali that flopping is a part of the game. I just think the league needs to do something about it. It’s pretty clear when a player is throwing themselves on the floor to get a call. Just don’t call that anymore.
I don’t even care if people hate him anymore but I do care that this is the topic of every Thunder game. Feels like we cant discuss basketball anymore ever and it’s so lame.
who is the long haired loud mouth?
Your average redditor bro
someone not even 8 year olds like
This sub is so chock full of SGA haters that even after a 3 FTA win and a fellow NBA player saying the hate is overblown, this thread is still being heavily downvoted.
It’s giving Don’t look up
Did one of the cohosts cite a brickcenter video as evidence of flopping??? Lmao it’s like using Alex Jones’s opinion on the World Health Organization. Spots media is somehow getting worse.
I don’t think people understand the amount of bumping and shoving that go on and without selling, they will never get called
Yeah it’s a contact sport, doesn’t mean every touch should be a defensive foul
If they shouldn’t get called without the selling then they shouldn’t get called. Wtf are you even talking about.
Or maybe the refs should call the obvious fouls.
Have you ever played a sport in your life?
Foul is a foul. Refs can’t tell some fouls if selling doesn’t occur. Like big men would never get calls on body checks by small guys if they don’t exaggerate them. I don’t think you realize these guys hardly move on contacts. The contacts still impact the plays and are fouls.
how devoid of logic are you where you can’t connect the dots here?
And watching any clip in 0.3 speed makes every move look like flopping
selling being a part of the game is the problem
when did it become a problem? because it’s always been part of the game.
Probably when Harden started doing it
Harden modeled his foul drawing after Ginobili
And hes universally loved.
Theres something about a non black player doing it thats so sexy to people, wonder why.
its the stuff like pinning defenders arms under yours and the obvious shot attempts where the offensive player clearly isn’t even trying to shoot but rather just draw a foul. it probably started popping off more with analytics because it’s super efficient to play that way, but that doesn’t mean i have to like watching it
People used to absolutely go in on Vlade for being a flopper when he was being legitimately fouled. Even if it’s always existed to some degree, there is a clear trend in the discourse where the game and discourse around it has become more accepting of selling/embellishment.
Selling/Flopping is legit in every sport and always has been.
Soccer is probably the worst with its flopping and its the most popular sport in the world
And soccer gets a ton of hate for it
The problem exists no doubt. The reason its overblown in this particular scenario is because most of nba fandom also doesnt want to see Shai win and there are real agendas focused on centering all the hate for modern NBA around this particular OKC team and they dont do any media politicking to combat these narratives. It comes with the territory since they are the champs but that is the reason it is overblown, and NBA players dont share the perspective of NBA fans actively rooting for something
There’s this weird notion that the better the player, or the more favoured they are, the more space they are given by the opposing team, it’s the complete opposite. You’re going to get doubled, and you’re always going to get the opponent’s most aggressive defender if you’re great. It’s gotta come with the territory of being great. The top 4 players (and subjective 5th best in Brown) this year are all “floppers” (and even I’ll be honest in saying Wemby sells a lot of contact because he has to). And SGA isn’t even the worst of them. And it goes back to before Jordan, the only great player that doesn’t sell contact I’ve seen is Curry, even Ant yells on every drive and looks at the ref. Im still trying to understand the centralization of decades of dissatisfaction on Shai, literally couldn’t happen to a nicer person.
I think another part of it is Shai’s rise to superstardom came basically out of nowhere. With Luka, Bron, Wemby, those guys came into the league with a lot of fanfare, hype, and expectations so naturally they had a large fanbase from the beginning.
Shai was supposed to be a nice piece for the team that other teams thought they could throw a first round pick at Presti to trade for. So since his superstar leap was so untraditional people attribute officiating to be the main reason he’s as good as he is today.
Howcomes Steph never gets that treatment and hate then? He came out of nowhere as well.
Because Steph’s game is the outside shot that doesn’t have as much potential for contact. There’s not nearly as much to overanalyze. He’s also famous for not getting foul calls. It’s the exact opposite of Shai.
This is y’all’s hero saying this too btw
Yall think hali was gonna trash shai? Hes gonna wait till the stream w his pose behind him to do that 😎
This is what ball knowers already understand. Casuals have been joining the bandwagon because it feels good and all they’ve seen are clips.
Nearly every great scorer in the history of basketball were free throw merchants to a extent. It’s popular to call Shai one because he shoots like ninty percent from the free throw line.
KD shot the same or better FT%, and never got the level of hate when he was getting shooting fouls spamming the rip through from a standstill. I believe Reddit being much more mainstream and a larger culture shift towards outrage are responsible for the difference from “foul drawing”, seen as a positive, to “foul baiting”, seen as a negative.
Hali is my new favorite non-Thunder player
He’s 100% correct. The problem is that Shai has a couple REALLY bad clips. You can set up a highlight tape and lead with those really bad ones and then just put ones in there that are just normal selling of a call that every player does, and suddenly it looks like you’re living entirely off flopping.
Jokic has some REALLY bad ones too. The difference being he isn’t getting constantly dragged for it outside of the few hours after it happens.
Shai is definitely overblown but selling being part of the game is the part that sucks.
For me, with SGA - Its that just watching him you can tell he’s an amazing lpayer, great iq, great shot % - When he DOES flop, it just feels bad, because you really don’t have to do this lol - You’re good.
Beyond how good he is, his normal game is so pretty to look at too that it makes the ugliness of the flopping stand out more
I think the most salient part of the whole discussion is that the people lining up to take their sides in the media are exactly the people that this sub derides because of their contrarian stances on everything.
You guys, Colin Cowherd and Nick Wright …….REALLY??!!? If you find yourself watching the stream of horseshit on ESPN or FS1, and you’re agreeing with the person paid to be the loud asshole; you’ve got a good chance of being on the wrong side of the discussion.
But even ignoring that every reasonable media member take is, “this is dumb.” The evidence of my eyes from watching 30 years of basketball is that it’s being played exactly the same as it’s always been, and these loud assholes just know that they get views from you guys when they say this shit.
Shit I loved Miami before OKC got a team and watched DWade flop his way to 25 shots a night sometimes.
Right… but selling should not be part of the game and it shouldn’t be encouraged. It just turns the games into a bitch fest where players just argue for calls instead of playing defense
I love how the host is acting like he knows more than Hali when he only watches twitter clips of basketball
Getting their clips from “Brickcenter” and “HtlerOfTheDay”
Hali makes me wonder how this debate plays out between fans who were hoopers and fans who didnt hoop.
Because I do think there’s somewhat an inherent acceptance of this is how the game is played and taught if you hooped at any level.
Even Brown going on his tirade still does it too. It makes me wonder what the splits are between these different groups.
I see phrases like it “makes me mad because he’s great without it” but he would 1000 percent be less good if he couldn’t sell contact because thats advantage defense and then you get even more physicality.
You give an inch. They’ll take a mile.
The Spurs actually play Shai decently because their principles are already physicality without fouling. They are less susceptible to his selling contact because there is less contact at points where the refs are on edge and against Shai they make it a point to show the refs where their hands and arms are.
He’s still a supreme shotmaker. So its not like they shut him down.
But the selling and being great go hand and hand. To get calls, you need to force the refs hands because fouls won’t look like fouls if you don’t.
I’ve been saying it for months now, most people who were speaking about the OKC vs Spurs games weren’t vocal enough about what made you guys do so good
Focus went mostly on media narratives such as Wemby vs Chet, refereeing and whatever quote the players(likely wemby) said before the game, or about how depleted OKC was due to injuries
Meanwhile I keep saying, one of the aspects that scared me the most in the matchup is that even when we were managing to play you guys well, it seemed to me there was a pretty organized and thought-out plan not to completely shut down SGA, but to manage him. Throwing Castle+someone else at him every time and Wemby would see the ball go to SGA as the others moved that way and run to the rim in a way I can only imagine they prepared that stuff in pretty concrete terms beforehand. SGA has a tendency to not drive when he sees the path has been pre-emptively cut, he has uncanny sense for when someone is letting enough space for him to make it to the basket and when there’s not, and often passes instead of trying to make the defenders bite and move. That resulted into lukewarm games from him where while he wasn’t bad, he never actually gets going to that spot where he’s scoring 35+ and comfortable taking multiple 3s in the 4th.
That defending of SGA + players who can actually capitalize well on our defense’s biggest flaw, which is that we oftentimes choose to leave space for the 3s and it’s just straight up a challenging formula for our team’s model.
People actually watch this shit?
It shouldn’t be
“Selling is part of the game” how can people defend this BS. Who cares who’s the best at selling. Play ball
The problem isn’t Shai flopping as much as flopping in general. “Selling is part of the game!” It’s shouldn’t be.
It is part of the game. Fuck that part of the game. They literally made a flopping rule to take it out of the game and then forgot they implemented the rule.
Love you Hali, really wish you didn’t get hurt in game 7 smh
The thing is it shouldn’t be part of the game, same with soccer the flopping is so dumb.
WE DONT WANT IT TO BE PART OF THE GAME THATS THE FUCKING POINT
Weird how NBA players, past and present love SGA. And love his game. But randos on Reddit and X hate him. Makes one think “hmmmm…”
This man said BRICK CENTER.
Bro why are professional analysts using twitter trolls to base their analysis