twovles31

96 | 4 hours ago

Always a good time to play your best right as your contract is expiring.

Actually-Yo-Momma

46 | 4 hours ago

As a blazer fan, contract year CJ has always been lit. In recent memory that crazy Nuggets playoff series to go to WCF CJ went off

xtehnYouTube | Knicks

2 | 4 hours ago

Too bad he scored 6 points in the last one tho

zebrainatux |

12 | 3 hours ago

Essentially in part because the New York defensive strategy is “gun at CJ or Johnson and force Atlanta to run the offense through Dyson Daniels”

amidon1130 | Hawks

14 | an hour ago

Which is extra annoying because Dyson did just fine at running the offense, and then he sat for 10 minutes for some reason and a close game became a blowout almost instantly.

Extension-Check4768 | Hawks

11 | an hour ago

Strangest Quin decision of the whole series. “Oh Dyson is locked in and exploiting his height advantage on Brunson…get him out of the game”

zebrainatux |

3 | an hour ago

Quin Snyder is so weird because I think he’s a good coach, but his rotations are baffling at times.

Extension-Check4768 | Hawks

2 | an hour ago

Sometimes it looks a little too much like a college coach, you can kind of tell he learned from coach K. I still think he’s a great coach but yeah, weird rotations at times that kill rhythm

xtehnYouTube | Knicks

2 | 36 minutes ago

Probably cuz they could sub Kuminga who’s been good down the stretch and just put NAW on Brunson. Its probably based on what went well in game 3

amidon1130 | Hawks

1 | 28 minutes ago

It’s just that gabe vincent played way too many minutes, especially in the second half.

butterflyhole | Trail Blazers

1 | an hour ago

Vet minimum it is then.

drjisftw | Pacers

29 | 3 hours ago

Really interested to see what his next contract is, especially given that he’ll be 35 next season.

He’s always been a bucket, but he’s also always been an undersized shooting guard. I feel like he’s been shoehorned more into the point guard position post-Portland, and with Atlanta it helps that he can split ball-handling duties with multiple guys like Jalen Johnson and Dyson Daniels.

Randvek | Trail Blazers

6 | 3 hours ago

I think CJ proved that he’s a competent PG even in the Portland days. He’d play the 1 on days Dame wasn’t playing and he was very good at it. Just no reason to make him the regular starter with Dame there.

EndSuperb2385

13 | 4 hours ago

See Jennifer, he tried!

CHEVIEWER1

8 | 3 hours ago

Someday CJ is going to be a great addition off the bench to a team that can smell a championship

amidon1130 | Hawks

3 | an hour ago

In a perfect world that’s the role our FO wants for him

Cpt-No-Dick | Thunder

2 | 4 hours ago

Where is Jennifer now, huh?

ThinkSoftware | Hawks

6 | 4 hours ago

Tweeting mean things to Deni Avdija

downtimeredditor | Hawks

4 | an hour ago

He keeps replying “you dont know the full history jennifer it goes back thousands of years”

BigShotBob89

3 | 4 hours ago

The sun will also rise tomorrow!

tkinsey3

3 | an hour ago

The best-case scenario is to resign CJ to a team-friendly veteran deal, and then hope the Pelicans Pick ends up Top 3-4

FERFreak731 | Jazz

2 | 4 hours ago

That makes happy knowing they’ll be out of the Kessler sweepstakes

LeJalenJohnsonMVP | Hawks

2 | 4 hours ago

What do you mean by this? I’m prob just dumb but I don’t follow

WayAdministrative679 | Minneapolis Lakers

3 | 4 hours ago

Iirc if they renounce all their cap holds (Kuminga, CJ, etc) they’ll have enough cap space to sign Kessler out right (might have changed because of the Trae trade and Kispert’s cap hit)

But if the Hawks don’t renounce CJ’s cap hit and resign him with bird rights, they won’t have cap space

LeJalenJohnsonMVP | Hawks

3 | 4 hours ago

Some of you guys are smart as hell. Thanks for explaining lol

FERFreak731 | Jazz

2 | 4 hours ago

Hawks keep CJ, they have no money for Kessler

Kessler is from Atlanta, and Kessler probably would be an upgrade over Onyeka, so a Kessler to Atlanta signing in free agency would’ve been something I would’ve feared

However if the Hawks want to keep CJ, then he might want 25 million or something around that range, causing the Hawks to have less money to spend in free agency, especially for signing a Walker Kessler

PlayInChampions | Timberwolves

1 | 3 hours ago

They can renounce all the rights (Kuminga, CJ, etc), throw a max at Kessler, and sign CJ with the room MLE (which is $8M, idk if it’s enough)

FERFreak731 | Jazz

1 | 3 hours ago

With the new tanking rules, tanking teams before probably might sign CJ to 18-25 million for 1 year to make sure they aren’t a bottom 3 team

8 million won’t be enough for CJ

PlayInChampions | Timberwolves

1 | 3 hours ago

True, I expect tanking teams trying to be better and sign or trade for some good vets like CJ. I can see a 1 year deal above MLE. Maybe Brooklyn?

amidon1130 | Hawks

1 | an hour ago

Isn’t the MLE higher for vets and the money over the MLE doesn’t count against the cap?

PlayInChampions | Timberwolves

1 | an hour ago

If I’m not mistaken, it works only with the minimum deals. Minimum deal for 10+ years vet is around $3.8M but only $2.2M will count against the cap

amidon1130 | Hawks

1 | an hour ago

NBA contracts are so confusing man lol. But I do know that the MLE is $15M if you’re not into the tax which is think might be enough for CJ. Might not be, but it might be.

PlayInChampions | Timberwolves

1 | an hour ago

You have access to your MLE only if you are above the cap. If Hawks operate as a team below the cap, they cannot use the full MLE - only room MLE (which is $8M only).

In certain situations, teams can choose if they want to operate as under the cap or over the cap team. Let’s say if a team is $5M below the cap, they can’t sign anyone because $$ is not enough, but they don’t have full MLE since they are below the cap. So teams keep caphold of players to operate over the cap and have the MLE, or they can renounce the capholds and be under the cap. For example, Wolves are keeping $27M caphold of Evan Turner who never played for them and retired in 2020.

Hawks can choose to keep capholds of Kuminga and CJ, stay over the cap, use full MLE on someone like Anfernee Simons (just an example), and later sign CJ and keep Kuminga. Or, they can renounce all the rights to Kuminga and CJ, offer big money to Kessler (again, just an example), let Kuminga go, and hope CJ is okay with $8M / year.

I hope I explained it well. It’s not very confusing honestly, way easier than NFL - they can renegotiate contracts every year and move some money to later years, which is crazy. NBA is very straight forward.

amidon1130 | Hawks

1 | 21 minutes ago

Ok I think I get it. Thanks for laying it out, I have a grasp of what teams can and can’t do over the aprons but I didn’t even think about the cap floor.

PlayInChampions | Timberwolves

1 | 8 minutes ago

Hawks are in a very unique situation when their 3 best assets (Johnson/NAW/Okungwu) are getting a little more than one max deal combined (only $3M more than Booker). They probably should not have traded for Kuminga and get $10M extra of Buddy Hield, but still, Hawks have ~$25M in cap space if they let Kuminga and CJ go (depending on the lottery, draft picks also have a caphit). Kind of similar to OKC in 2024 when they had JDub/Chet/Wallace on rookie deals and Shai before the super max, and had enough cap space to sign Hartenstein.

amidon1130 | Hawks

1 | an hour ago

I’m probably gonna get flamed for this but is Kessler that much of an upgrade over Okongwu? He’s a better rim protector and rebounder obviously, and his size is a massive upgrade. But OO is really switchable and is one of the best 3 point shooting centers in the league. I actually think they’d be an insane tandem, both of them perfectly cover up the others weaknesses. Could run a massive double big lineup with both of them that would be really really hard to score on.

FERFreak731 | Jazz

1 | an hour ago

It was an 8 three sample size, but Kessler was ⁶⁄₈ from three before he got season ending surgery. He also made a few threes the season prior. Kessler won’t he a 75% three point shooter, but I won’t be shocked if he might become a 30% - 36% from three shooter. The jumpshot is there, it just relies on if he can shoot it consistently on a full season sample size.

amidon1130 | Hawks

1 | an hour ago

Definitely possible, I mean 2 years ago Okongwu hit like 4 3s all season. Also to be fair I’m just constantly fighting for my life against hawks fans who think onyeka sucks cause he’s undersized when in reality he’s really fucking good lol. OO’s shooting opens up our whole offense, and he can hit them from anywhere on the court at 38% which is so valuable.

back2ya | Knicks

2 | 4 hours ago

once he wasn’t being guarded by Brunson the majority of the time, he got outscored by Jeremy Sochan. Don’t know if that’s worse for Brunson or Cj lol

slyguy183 | Knicks

4 | 4 hours ago

CJ is just 1 player, they need to find another star player to become contender level but I definitely like the Hawks resigning him. Needs a mix of vets and youth

back2ya | Knicks

6 | 4 hours ago

he’s probably the perfect vet for the team even if he isn’t Prime Jordan like he was the first few games of the series lol

zebrainatux |

1 | an hour ago

And I don’t think it’s his fault Johnson hasn’t been very good, Daniels can’t hit a shot, and Snyder’s rotations have been a choice

mykl5 | Trail Blazers

1 | an hour ago

I haven’t been watching, I thought Johnson was a star

This_Field_7872 | Hawks

1 | 3 hours ago

… can’t say I’m surprised but i think this is a bad move

downtimeredditor | Hawks

1 | an hour ago

I dont mind it. If we somehow get a top 4 pick and Peterson is gone it gives us flexibility to draft boozer instead of reaching for guard

TimothyN | Pelicans

1 | 2 hours ago

He was our best player and leader the entire time he was in New Orleans, and even though we were just a play-in team, it was a good example of a real professional. We are poorer for having traded him while trying to develop Fears and Queen because of his character and ability to actually hit 3s.

fph00 | Pelicans

1 | an hour ago

Our FO bet on Poole to be better than CJ, and look how it worked out.

[Fischer] The Atlanta Hawks intend to re-sign CJ McCollum this offseason.