What????? I thought Tatum and brown on their own are like 90% of the luxury

Da fuck

Edit: and while Boston is not a small market, it does not have the free agent appeal of say the Lakers or Knicks. To be able to stay relevant like this without stars falling into our laps needs to be mentioned 

That’s fucking insane.

God fucking damnit, why are the Celtics so well-run. xDD Can’t help but seriously respect it. The fact that you guys navigated through Tatum’s Achilles tear and came out of it as the clear favorites tog et out of the East is nuts.

Masterclass of a job. And kudos to joe for developing all the supporting pieces.

Whats the outlook for the team structure in the next couple of years contract wise?

Sign walsh to a team friendly deal and queta gets vuc’s money?

Off-topic, but the celtics are kinda my east team atm. Im from queta’s hometown and one of my best friends coached queta many years ago when he was around 12-14. He was actually in chicago watching Cs vs Bulls in march, with tickets that queta provided. He is really a great kid from what i hear around here Rooting hard for him and a little bit for the Cs

I miss Minott.

We’re gonna get absolutely smoked by the thunder but if we can get off Lebron’s contract and get some decent role players I look forward to hating the celtics in a playoff matchup again.

Not trying to take anything away from Brad, but Ainge did an amazing job for a long time. He cooked like crazy especially in 2017 with the Tatum trade and Hayward/Kyrie moves. Ainge also believed in the potential of the Jays when easy moves for all stars like PG or Butler were on the block.

Ainge found Brad tho

I see your point

Thats BS. They are tied at the very least. Brad wouldnt have had the success hes had without Ainge first putting everything together. To say Brad is above him so easily reeks of ignorance.

We don’t have Brad and what he’s done without Ainge and what he left to Brad. Not agreeing or disagreeing that he’d passed Ainge but it’s hard to definitively give it to Brad at this juncture.

We don’t know if Brad would have picked Brown and Tatum. Those were the most impactful decisions in the last 10 years. However I don’t think Ainge would have gotten us to a chip because he was all about winning a trade more than building a championship team. I feel like he never thought we could win with Tatum and Brown. Brad was the one who believed and cashed in at the right time for the right players and got us KP, Derrick White and Jrue Holiday. But Brad couldn’t have done this without Ainge setting him up so I don’t think I would credit Brad more for our success.

And then he was fucking fired. Our guy coached a team with Jae Crowder and Kelly Olynyk in the starting lineup to a 1 seed and they gave the award to a guy who was getting fired. I’ll never let that one go.

The funny thing is there was still the annual NBA Awards show back then that happened after the Finals.

So the CoTY award was announced after he was already fired and he accepted the award as the former coach of the Raptors.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsf2VE2Jv_Q

You think it’s luck til Joe Mazzulla says he’s giving you a coin if you roll a 6!

It’s funny I was going to say Guess Who, but wasn’t sure how many people knew it.

Also I would totally subscribe to a channel that is Joe playing Guess Who with kids and going off on lectures about grit and grind.

A lot of people and fans thought they’d try to tank, but the players and the organization themselves made it pretty clear that was never the intention.

There’s a weird cultural thing in the nba fandom where not explicitly trying to win the championship that season = trying to lose as much as possible

I’d argue if we never got Tatum back this year, winning as much as we could to prove to the league and potential roster additions that the culture is still strong is still very beneficial 

The Celtics don’t tank, it’s not part of the winning culture. They would rather play hard and to win and get the young guys playoff experience than play losing ball. Plus JB would never let that happen.

Ah Tony Maz. I remember when you were a passable baseball guy and didn’t just go “uhhhhIDONTKNOWMIKE” for four hours

The value of 2nd rounders is basically to grease the palms for deals like this: take on a bad contract and we’ll throw in a couple of 2nds for your trouble.

This might have been the case like a decade ago but teams are so much better at drafting & development that second round picks regularly turn into decent rotation players now. If anything, teams like Boston & OKC have shown that after the first few star picks, being a team that is excellent at scouting & developing is more important than a better draft position because both teams have managed to fill out the end of their bench with players they drafted late in the first or in the second round which has helped their payrolls massively, while other teams will have strike out on 5 firsts in 3 years because they’re not as competent

And a 0.000001% he becomes Jokic.

All of the above

Joe is going to get COTY as well though

The new system has also encouraged teams to actually keep draft picks and develop their own talent instead of relying on an endless stream of mercenaries. Since rookie contracts are so much cheaper. Which I think is cool.

So many comments just like “lol he got the award for just making the team worse” while ignoring what you said. He performed the executive job pretty flawlessly.

Like legit shed huge contracts while finding a bunch of no-names to bring them to a 2 seed favored out of the East. The fuck do these people want lol.

It’s easy to say this in hindsight. How many people thought we’d be 2nd seed at the start of the season? Did I expect Sheierman and Walsh to make a significant impact? Definitely not. I think credit goes more to Joe than Brad.

I mean what did he even do this year, re-sign everyone and trade for McCain? He doesn’t really have a comparable job to Brad given everyone except for SGA (and IHart) are on artificially capped contracts do to their youth so there isn’t nearly as much financial gymnastics that he has to do yet.

I think it’s less that and more that Spurs have done really well in the lottery, so while Brian has put together some good moves to build a team around Wemby, it’s easier when you have a cornerstone like Wemby to build around. Especially when we just got the #2 pick for Harper last draft and #4 for Castle the year before.

Brad Stevens had to shed a whole bunch of salary and got completely out of the tax, didn’t have Tatum for a majority of the season, and still put a team together that got #2 seed in the East. It don’t mind losing to him, it was an incredible job. Most people thought they they’d be a low seed or even the play-in at best.

Stevens also is from Indiana. What do they put in their water. Whatever it is I’ll take everyone in the Indiana to Boston pipeline.

He achieved the goal of the franchise this year flawlessly. How else can you define the award? The best executive doesn’t mean the best team, it means they executed the best for the team moving forward, and he absolutely knocked it out of the park.

No, but it is a much worse pick. Next year’s Denver pick is likely 55 or worse. Knowing Brad, he could have sold off this year’s Pelicans pick for like 6 of those picks lol