Most of the time, to be honest. Wasn’t there that tackle for the lions that tried to come out of retirement last year until they found out his ligament was completely torn apart? To make it this far 99% of the time you need to be dedicated to the game at a psychotic level

Yep! It’s not fun and very frustrating but I have seen (and done it myself) too many cases of playing thru the pain to our own detriment. The phrase: “are you hurt or are you injured” has done institutional damage in the psyche of many athletes to this day and that’s what we have doctors for.

Because if Wemby would have gotten his way we could have easily gotten a Brian Daboll and Jaxon Dart situation and that’s fucking grim.

Agreed. Which is why this looks bad on the Spurs medical team. Why are you rushing him back with no need for it?

Need protection from themselves, along with protection from team doctors.

Valid, but an explanation should always be given to the player. Sounds like the NBA ignored his request which isn’t a good look.

And how is that what this is? An independent neurologist cleared him.

If the nba thinks he isn’t ready surely their doctors can provide the patient with a medical reason.

And the protection is by not communicating about the state of player’s own health?

Looked fine to me. Seems like they just wanted to sit him to extend the games

What risk? A disastrous second concussion is about as likely as his leg snapping in half.

Keeping him out is the right thing to do, but not purely because of roi

this isn’t wwe in 2006-2007, concussions and cte matter

Yeah imagine being head of concussion protocol. Wemby could be yelling at the top of his lungs to be allowed to play, but you are aware: You ALONE are responsible if something bad happens, because you have to sign him off to play.

Yeah, concussions are tricky, and often present in very different ways.

I’ve had 2 and both times it took 2 weeks roughly to feel all there again, even if I was able to function after a few days.

Hopefully he doesnt get a second one in the next 2 weeks

Found an official NBA neurologist account

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It doesn’t even seem like he’s angry that he wasn’t allowed to play, but more that there wasn’t any reason given.

If the reason was that the NBA want to be conservative and not let him play immediately, then he should be told that.

And theres research that even if they are fine, they’re at an increased risk of a major knee or ankle injury due to the psychomotor aspect of concussions. Someone should be telling Wemby all of the implications of such an injury.

The reason is that he hadn’t recovered from his concussion.

If someone hurts their foot and then a doctor examines their foot and says they can’t play, they don’t have to invent a new diagnosis. It’s just the old diagnosis hasn’t healed yet.

Get something bad could happen but with basketball the brain injuries aren’t really a worry as much for players it seems. So I don’t get how it’s really dumb lol it’s not like we are watching 40 year old basketball players blow their brains out because cte.

I mean I guess we have Gil’s arena so idk maybe you are right

Are you a doctor? The doctors said he was good to go. Arm chair physicians.

Yeah I can’t be mad at either side. Wembys a huge competitor so obviously he wants to be out there, but the NBA just wants to play it safe. Be a bad look for them to just openly disregard concussion protocols for one of the biggest stars in the league

Wemby isn’t complaining about their decision, just the lack of transparency during the process. He’s agreeing that their decision may have been correct, but the way they go about it is frustratingly opaque.

Then is Adam Silver, Dr. Robinavitch?

except she’s a good doctor…

Wanting to come back early after a concussion doesn’t exactly scream “a lot smarter than most of his coworkers” to me.

Same in the Australian Football League, doctors have the power to review head collisions and have the player removed from the game until they satisfactorily pass a concussion test. If they fail the test they’re immediately into concussion protocols and the player is made inactive for at least one match. Being a one match per week league, you’re out for at least 2 weeks.

If you have recurring concussions or multiple concussions in a short period of time, serious consideration is given to the player retiring from the game forever.

This is fear mongering in the first half. One concussion doesn’t turn you into AB.

Do athletes return too soon from them? Yea of course.

Thank your for a Lakers fan saying this.

This is the same organisation that held a recovered Tim out of the ‘00 playoffs (the year after winning finals MVP) when was apparently cleared, because they didn’t want to risk the rest of his career. Even if Pop/RC aren’t directly involved from a basketball side of things, RC is still head of the entire organisation, and the culture hasnt gotten any less conservative when it comes to player health.

The Spurs aren’t letting him back on the court until they are 150% sure.

The issue here seems to be about communication and clarity of process.

We are very limited in what we can judge based on these little snippets, but sounds like Vic was frustrated about “who” was actually making the decision (Not the doctors, either club or NBA, who he said he was happy with), and how and when that was communicated. Sounds like there wasn’t a clear pathway or timeline, not just game 3 but also game 4, and unclear how late in the picture he was finally told he could play in this game.

Even if he was a guy destined to be out of the league next year, he should have still been kept out. Concussions are no joke.

Big difference between mental issues and physical ones. If they fuck up a soft tissue injury then he can risk getting a much worse injury a shortly after coming back. If they fuck up this, then it’s something that may or may not effect him decades away.

I mean the replay alone was enough no? What do you mean no reason? Head smacking to the ground => concussion => protocol says no play because there’re risks involved. If I was him I would cut the season short but yhea…

To be fair, we have no idea whether the neurologist Wemby went to was questionable or not — we shouldn’t just assume they were questionable.

It sounds like the doctors cleared him but the NBA said no. He then appealed and got cleared by an independent neurologist, but the NBA still said no. The doctors were ok with it, then why aren’t the bureaucrats ok with it?

I think he should have waited till the next round, but that’s just my opinion. Plus, concussions have different levels of severity. Just because it looked bad in slow mo doesn’t mean it was a bad one. If he passed all the tests established in the CBA, they shouldn’t have held him out

1000% yes

Why are Thunder fans always rooting for injuries of other teams?

A full on deranged Wemby sounds terrifying

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Fuck you bro

Ur teams brain on perma dmg with all those faces they make from foul baiting. Diagnose everyone with makeface syndrome.

Is permanent brain damage not a good enough reason? He bonked his head two days in a row and was knocked out cold for a few seconds on the second one. Brain bleeds and trauma don’t always manifest right away but risking a THIRD brain injury in a week is straight up madness.

It looked awful he was out cold for a bit and had trouble standing at first. Everyone wanna act like Superman but you should be careful with these things

There are reports that it wasn’t even a concussion just hurt his jaw

It’s totally normal… it’s the aftermath your brain isn’t still 100% functioning young ant even predict if the guys could have a big problem on the court out of nowhere like idk it’s very risky lol people just love to play with their lives nowadays but I guess when you’re lucky with your health you already try to go for more everytime

I think it’s all symptoms based

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