Too add insult to injury, the 6ers gave the C’s an additional 1st round pick for the right to pick Fultz over Tatum

Laker fan not gonna acknowledge the other team picking top 3 in those drafts as well?

It’s not just about nailing the picks. It’s about developing them.

• The Celtics brought top picks into a top rated organisation where they were taught how to play winning basketball from day 1 by people who had a lot of experience winning.

Tatum and Brown aren’t the same players without: Brad Stevens kept them on a tight leash early on. Marcus Smart was hounding them every day to improve as 2-way players. Al Horford pulled both of them aside and showed them how to structure their behind-the-scenes preparations.

• The 76ers brought top picks into a deadbeat organisation, that was breaking records for how much they were losing. They had traded / fired / let get every single person who knew what winning basketball looked like.

Embiid has been with the team for 12 years, and if you watch him you’ll see he still doesn’t know how to set a clean screen. The fundamentals are lacking. Embiid hasn’t been a failure, but if he’d been drafted by Boston, Miami, San Antonio, etc…. he would have been an NBA champion.

Instead he was drafted by a deadbeat organisation that never progressed beyond looking at a player’s 2K ratings as a means of evaluating talent.

Ben Simmons wasn’t a bust lmao. People gotta stop saying this.

He’s sadly a what if and a disappointment.

But he was a 3 time all star, 3rd team all nba in an era where he was competing against Dame, Russ, Curry, Harden, Kyrie, CP3, and Luka every year.

He also had 2 first team all defenses and was ROTY.

I’ll never forget C’s fans booing Brown. Put some respect on Ainge’s name.

Yup. Simmons, fultz and bonus round trading bridges from Zaire smith.

Unserious franchise

It was lost when embiid couldn’t stay healthy

Sixers tanked for some bad top drafts like nerlens Noel.

Ben Simmons was a great pick but him being a head case was unseen

Pretty crazy to think about in retrospect

The Tatum year wasn’t really an option for the Sixers though. The Celtics had Tatum as their number 1 prospect, they only traded with the Sixers because they agreed to take Fultz. If not, they would’ve just kept the pick.

More than that even. In 2015 Jahlil Okafor pick was bad as well. They could’ve had Booker instead

That game 3 in 2018 is one of my favorite Celtics games ever (that Ive seen).

What’s the opposite of someone who has a humiliation kink? Like the humiliator? That’s us

Celtics had #1 pick the year Tatum was there

I mean not really their fault for taking the consensus number 1 at number 1. That’s like Caleb Wilson somehow becomes Tatum and Darry Peterson’s off court drama with Kansas continued. 10 years later people are gonna flame whoever has the number 1 for taking Peterson over Wilson but anyone now, no one is gonna take Wilson over Peterson. (aside from sources from the reliable Kevin O’Connor)

I’m pretty sure that’s the plan

How, who’s gonna take Embiid and PG13’s contracts, the Salvation Army? Goodwill?

Morey cooked the team giving Embiid that extension and George that contract. Embiid and pg for Draymond and Jimmy butler idk

Trade them to the nets for 3 first round picks

The issue is imo that Maxey and VJ are so good that they won’t be bad enough to rebuild. I don’t think u can rebuild with them as your starting backcourt they’re just too good

Hey u/dmorey, listen to no-kangarooreborn from reddit for your front office decisions moving forward

They could use another good shooter, someone like Jared mccain

I’ve been saying this for 2 years now. If they trade Embiid to a healthier serviceable center, they definitely would be better.

As much credit as the Celtics FO deserves for everything that lead them to Tatum and brown, they got incredibly lucky IMO.

Brown was on a really good team as a rookie, but he was getting DNPs in the playoffs. His sophomore year was good but he and Tatum really regression 2018-19.

Simmons would have been the Celtics pick if they picked first in 16, and Celtics were the only team in basketball who liked Tatum more than fultz. A lot of drafting is luck but the Celtics did get lucky.

Yup. All the other picks, signings, coaching, development, owner, etc. Just a better run organization from top to bottom.

I wish my Pels had a competent owner. Sigh

It also doesn’t help that even when Embiid is healthy there’s some catastrophic choke/underperformance from one of the guys who helps him too.

He probably doesn’t help with his general attitude either like throwing everyone but Harden under the bus in a game where his role players actually did show up

I wonder if you had kept butler over Simmons if things would have been different. Those Butler-Miami teams were very hard for the Celtics to beat.

It does feel like it, but they gave him an extension before they had to that has yet to kick in. Even “untradeable” contracts are sort of tradeable in the NBA, but this one’s a tough sell.

the 50-piece to close them out in 2023 is gonna be one of the moments that defines his career, I think

No, they lost to the Knicks in the first round who then lost to the Pacers.

Philly in 9

I get not wanting to call it too early, but this Sixers team isn’t winning 3 games in the garden. Also I don’t think Embiid has ever come back from a deficit in a playoff series, don’t really see that happening here either.

I’m usually a proponent of not calling a series until it’s officially over, but nah, outside of 2019 vs Toronto this Philly team has never shown any toughness and I don’t forsee that changing this year.

I kinda think they would have matched up well on denver in 2023 if they got there

I think 2023 game 6 was the more altering one. That was their best team since 2019 and getting the monkey off the back might have had them playing very loose going into the ECF.

The gods being Adam Silver

Embiid lost a playoff game where he had 36/15/5/5 and was +16 so yeah….

I love Al so much

That’s NBA Champion Al Horford to you

There is no one seeing court time for Philly that even won a Conference Championship.

I don’t think so, people keep ascribing things like tanking and culture and karma to the Sixers woes. Their woes are entirely front office related.

Their biggest problem is throwing bad money after bad money and just not cutting their losses when it’s clear things are not going anywhere. They should have sold Ben Simmons after the Raptors series because it was absurdly clear that he would clog up the floor and completely kill your offense in the playoffs.

Defense wins championships but you actually need some sort of coherent offense to win because you actually need to score buckets.

I really only say blew a 3-2 because of the abysmal performance the sixers had in game 6. Up until the 4th, Tatums worst game of his entire life, up with the lead, and you couldn’t capitalise, and then get blown out next game.

Losing two high-pressure closeout games in a row definitely qualifies as a choke. The point is you had the opportunity to win twice and couldn’t convert. If you brick two go-ahead shots in the final minute of a game people will definitely call that a choke, this is just the macrocosm of that situation.

Tobias Harris over me??