James Harden is averaging 6 turnovers per game in the playoffs this season, only Cade Cunningham (6.3) is averaging more.
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/who-is-averaging-the-most-turnovers-per-game-in-the-playoffs-this-season
*Kevin Durant is ‘averaging’ 9 turnovers but has only played one game.
LeBron James at 4.3 and Jokic at 4 rounds out the top 5
When are yall gonna stop believing in playoff harden
Also let’s not give Donovan Mitchell a pass here. Insane a player of his caliber gets almost no criticism for his shortcomings at times
he actively has a rep for being a disappointing playoff player. who the fk is believing in playoff harden?
Mitchell has been a killer in the playoffs for his entire career….
im talking about harden….
Ha! That makes way more sense
Such a killer he hasn’t made a conference finals. Embiid gets slandered about never making a conference finals, it’s only right Mitchell does too
What?
Mitchell as a disastrous game, he deserves most of the blame for the game 4 loss. But he’s performed great in most of his playoff career, the only series you can say he overall underperformed in was the Knicks ass kicking we took a few years back.
playoff harden
wat?
The CTE kicking in. I misread the comment LMAO.
Idk man lots of people keep thinking it’s James harden’s year which is said about him every year. And the results are always the same
And he wanted to go to NY 😂
they would’ve eaten him alive for that shot lol
DMitch is Embiid with pr
I saw a video talking about that exact same thing. The only difference is that Embiid has an MVP, but also a reputation as being a flopped
He’s D Wade with zero clutch ability
Did you watch the game?
This is playoff Harden lol when people say that name this is what they mean.
What is happening with Cade lol
Cade IS Detroits offence. More time spent with the ball, more fumbles. (Also Suggs). But harden has no excuse - he may be pg but Donovan has the ball as much, or more, and the team is generally more egalitarian.
Cade has always had high turnovers. This is not a playoff or Magic thing. People just don’t watch us in the regular season lol. I will say I don’t blame this purely on Cade, he IS our offense
He’s in Suggs hell
Hes averaging like 30 ppg this series with a co-star who is putting up like 8 and 8.
That’s what I’m seeing too. If Cade isn’t creating something, there’s nothing happening. Need more Jenkins and obviously Reed now
Sirius A and B? Haha.
Happens when you’re the only one shooting the ball. *59 shots in 3 games? You’re probably going to get some buckets with those numbers.
*69 shots actually
Nah don’t downplay Cade. As a Magic fan, Cade has been balling. He’s getting blitzed by elite defenders. Franz is an excellent defender and is making life hard on him, with little support, Cade is still playing very well.
I never said he wasn’t but you can’t deny the impact that Suggs has as a POA defender
Suggs isn’t his primary defender, it’s Franz. But yes, Suggs is my 2nd favourite player on the team, followed by Wagner.
You’re just saying shit. Not even watching your own games
lol his primary defender has been franz not Suggs
I always fucked with Suggs, Ain’t he pull that white girl in the WNBA?? Her name was Hailey Val Slith right?
You fucked with Suggs because he pulled a white wnba player?
Are you mentally deficient?? I said I always fucked with Suggs as a player, I was confirming whether or not he was dating that white girl, you lack critical thinking skills
Edit: What part of “I always fucked with Suggs” go over yall heads??!? Smh! I’ll take the downvotes
I always fucked with Suggs, Ain’t he pull that white girl in the WNBA?? I said I always fucked with Suggs as a player
I always fucked with Suggs, Ain’t he pull that white girl in the WNBA??
I said I always fucked with Suggs as a player
Bruh.
Do you not see my comma bruh? I’m just continuing my sentence! Don’t do this to me man
Dude. The comma instead of a period is what ties those two thoughts together in the same sentence.
No it doesn’t clown, use your context clues, me saying I’ve always fucked with Suggs implies that I’ve fucked with him since he entered the league, me bring up that second statement asks for clarity regarding his dating life, it’s as simple as that but that one reply to my comment ruined everyone’s perception of my comment
Cade is the only ball handler playing against a defense that’s loaded up to stop him especially. And he can’t out muscle those guys all game. Organizational failure not his
He’s the only ball handler on the team
Other teams are matching their intensity
He has literally been a turnover machine his entire career, no one cared until this year gee I wonder why
Harden turned the ball over way too much in the first half and came back to play reasonably solid in the second half. Dude still ended up with too many turnovers but was largely fine/okay.
Mitchell was a total clusterfuck out there today basically the whole game and crickets
Every year harden ends up going somewhere to play Robin then ends up carrying when his Batman falls apart. And he’s just not a Batman
It felt like he was shying away from the ball late. And that missed wide open middie when Shead flopped really hurt.
Or that nonsense pass he threw to Merrill that was almost as good as handing the ball back to the Raptors.
Another year, another James harden getting blamed for being triple teamed and his supposed “star” shitting himself.
Like are we for real?
James is 36 and his star just had 2 dogshit games but it’s all his fault?
Zero bling
I have been saying He is the key player to shut down here. If you can disrupt his efforts you are also preventing the big men from having massive performances and lots of momentum.
Let mitchell kill you. Thats how you win this series imo
This.
Especially because forcing Mitchell to kill you also often results in him killing his team while trying.
And Mitchell won’t kill you lol 😂 he’ll score 40 but give up 60
Adding noted playoff choker Harden to a Cavs team with a history of underperforming is a match made in hell.
Ya unfortunately it was a Hail Mary, no other major pieces we could’ve gotten, all our stars are expensive and we honestly need like 7 better players or a coach that can make Mobley and Allen take the next step. They plateaued so hard the last 2 seasons.
Dunno why Cleveland thought they’d get better with one of the most perennial playoff chokers in the league is beyond me. Dude is so bad that he cancelled out Kawhi last season.
I mean Harden is still clearly better than Garland and that’s basically all the trade was.
Harden can win a game by himself in a way that I’m not sure Garland can.
I think the opposite is also true, though, that Harden can singlehandedly throw away a game more easily than Garland.
I think they can throw games in different ways. Garland can be targeted and abused defensively in a way that isn’t as obvious but is pretty much just as detrimental.
Beautiful 48 hours of hate watching
This is the 44th time in his career he’s had more turnovers than field goals in a playoff game
Shead has been a absolute beast
Rough
Are we supposed to be surprised…
Cavs fans better hope that they don’t let this series get to an elimination game because if so…
Cavs getting the full James Harden experience huh. Welp.
Playoff P vibes
So, what you’re saying is that, once again, the Clippers were dumb AF. Got it.
Same story for almost 15 years straight yet people still act surprised. It’s like witnessing a mass psychosis event or something.
Nobody’s surprised. And he hasn’t even had a truly horrible game yet. I’m actually scared what the next few games will bring
He has a horrible game for every amazing game. Strange that he’s being consistently mid.
Harden in game 7 last season: 7 points (2⁄8 shooting). Game 5: 11 points (3⁄9).
Harden in game 5 and 6 two seasons ago: 7 points (2⁄12), 16 points (5⁄16).
Harden in game 5 and 6 three seasons ago: 13 points (4⁄16), 9 points (3⁄11).
Harden in game 4 (closeout) four seasons ago: 17 points (4⁄18 shooting)
I am a Harden fan, but I hope Cleveland fans aren’t expecting him to be able to pull through and shut this one out.
Mitchell was supposed to be the closer
And we’re in the danger territory now lol. Game 5 and 6 guaranteed.
If he was a restaurant, he would be raking it in!
why is this even a surprise at this point lol. his entire reputation is disappearing in the playoffs and it never fails.
When are people going to just learn that James Harden in the playoffs Is a recipe for failure? It started in the 2012 finals and here we are.
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What’re on you on about 😂
I think it’s the first thing people bring up about him.
The thing is that it’s not as simple as that. He has had some absolutely monster games against tough pressure in the playoffs. It’s just that he also always shits the bed at least a couple times every series.
Terrible is an overstatement. Doesn’t he still have a top 5 playoff PPG? He’s performed well in the playoffs many times.
Yea even his legendary stinkers like the game 6 vs San Antonio. He dominated the first 5 games. He just disappeared in game 6. When the Spurs didn’t even have Tony Parker and Kawhi Leonard
Are you new here? Or born yesterday? That’s like the number one thing everybody talks about when it comes to Harden
Hasn’t the narrative on this subreddit for years been that he’s a playoff choker? He’s a flashy player so people will always give him slack, but I feel like he gets a fair amount of criticism.
It’s generally not until the deciding games Harden is trash. He puts up incredible numbers otherwise.
Turnover machine though. So many unforced eras when the game is on the line.
If there is one thing I think this sub will admit, it’s that Harden sucks balls in the playoffs
Legit after game 1 someone with a rockets flair said something like “you don’t realize how good harden is until he plays for your team” and I was like bruh are we talking about the same playoff harden??
It’s not even like he’s terrible as an elite player, which is still better than most players. Once the playoffs hit, he might as well not even dress. Straight trash
2 good games and 1 bad game 4 and that’s equates to straight trash.
Man y’all are dumbasses.
Sybau
The only thing softer than our team are Raptors fans.
Your team is overrated af boy