Have you consulted the most updated RAPTORCUM rankings as of 11:59 pm last night?

I really like Jokic but I am glad the advanced stat nerds are getting some pushback. Some of that shit is utterly ridiculous.

JOKER stats are weighed to favor players with the nickname Joker but that has not impact on how we compare players with it

consensus best in the world is now mine

And if you disagree you’re gaslighting yourself https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/1pvxskj/nikola_jokic_tonight_56_points_16_rebounds_15/nvzl1k3/

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/1sosesc/stephen_curry_has_now_missed_the_playoffs_7_times/ogvrpab/

Back in the Jokic / Embiid MVP debate years, you’d get downvoted to hell for trying to argue that both were deserving of MVP instead of only Jokic being deserving because of RAPTORCUM or whatever. I felt like I was going crazy.

And defense didn’t matter because his offense was so good that it was defense.

It’s healing to see him shown as fallible. He’s amazing, but he isn’t the Pope

He got shut down by a washed Dwight Howard btw

He is and has shown that.

But Rudy has just been otherworldly and is one of the greatest defenders. Give him credit.

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It never ceases to amaze me how much NBA fans love shitting on their own best players. Between foul merchant accusations and stat-padding complaints and just outright making-up (or ignoring) statistics, who do you all actually fucking agree on as an elite player? You can’t even convince each other of MJ and LeBron’s greatness lol. It’s fucking pathetic.

Pro basketball fans continue to prove yourselves as the most self-hating group of numb-nuts in sports. Is it because your sport is really just ballet? Surprised they aren’t wearing tutus yet.

I don’t know why you’re taking this one series where he’s clearly injured for your “proof”.

Jokic had the greatest offensive peak by far 2023-2026 and his defense wasn’t that bad either. He’s definitely top 3 All time NBA peaks even if you consider defense.

Literally LeFuckYouThrees since the dude is french

He’s always been elite but his defense has ascended to another level in this series.

Rudy has had one of the greatest defensive playoff series of all time and it’ll only ever be mentioned as an afterthought. Unreal discipline and consistency.

Facts. Gobert is playing the best basketball of his life right now, and how beautiful it has been to watch him defend. Fundamentals at the absolute highest level.

It’s the Internet, the only takes allowed are outlandish takes.

The one thing I don’t like about Jokic is the PR around him. The guy dies bush league stuff and is never called out on it.

Hey, everyone has a bad series, you hate to see it with a great player but to see that Jaden play was the play that made him do that shows that he is a sore loser. He ran all the way down the court to do that, when the game was over. Take that to the next game at home and come out and kill the Wolves.

LeBron got killed in 2011 for a horrendous Finals, and rightfully so. Jokic should get killed because he’s shown before that he could play very well against Gobert.

But again, it’s the Internet. Only outlandish takes are allowed.

I disagree, I think it’s a Jokic stat just because it’s against Gobert. Watched them play against each other for years and only time Gobert was a problem was when he wasn’t on Jokic. We all watched those series against them and it would always start with Gobert on him and he cooks him and then KAT starts guarding him with Gobert behind. So either Gobert is ascending in his later years or Jokic is choking/declining

Must see tee vee

Wish it was more Rudy praise than Jokic disgust.

He made a crazy clutch shot but it wasn’t like Wemby got cooked or anything.

Giannis actually plays defense while also delivering on offense, so I always had it above Jokic.

Shai flops too much fucking dip shit 

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Prime Steph was very, very decent defensively. He was never the liability Jokic is.

To be fair though, it’s much easier to be a liability on defense as a center.

How’s the playoffs? 

And yet here is a delusional glazer calling him top 3 in this very thread, only being MJ and Lebron lol https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/1svy0ff/comment/oibq6pj/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

Are we pretending that before this series Jokic wasn’t a quality known value in the playoffs?

Him not performing is an exception. He’s not Garden lol

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The subs loves to dog on another player and has been glazing Jokic nonstop. It’s fair for him to get criticism lol

People are waiting to post concert date stat lines about all the elite players like Sga Wemby Jokic Cade etc

This subreddit is obsessed over a small market team 

He’s not a fraud. He’s literally won a championship

Rudy is just one of the greatest defenders and he’s clamping him. Fourth game in a row, it’s not a coincidence. It’s a Rudy thing

Cant wait till the end of the playoffs when the stat padder narratives start. Thatll be fun to watch.

And somehow got more hate when ime had him play 40+ mins right after coming back from an injury only to get injured again in the same game!! And him not being on the bench was so egregious apparently

Can’t wait to hear how Simmons and Lowe will cope

Moses has 3MVP and 1 ring too, doesn’t he? He still has an argument for that top 15 spot…

And Chuck is whispering “Galveston…”

This could be, but he was off for all of game 3. I don’t know if this is the end, he’s injured, or fatigued, but he does not look like himself.

MVP finalist? Apparently, the only reason why Jokic hasn’t gotten MVP every year for the last 5 years is because of voter fatigue. Everyone is in cahoots and are collectively pretending that there’s other good players in the league just to spite Jokic, according to Nuggets fans

I don’t think that many people actually dislike Jokic. I think it’s mainly people being tired of the media and stat nerds glazing him endlessly.

It’s not Jokic, they hate the people who glaze Jokic and use these performances as opportunities to rile them up.

It’s pushback because when he was ascending people were glazing him at every opportunity

You’re just seeing every Jokic hater gathered at once, that’s all. This is Jokic haters’ ¹²⁄₂₅

Superstars are criticised and made fun of unequally. Some outspoken fans are piling on him because the media is blinded by the advanced stats. If lebron chokes he’s the frozen one, but if Jokic or someone else chokes, its always that his team is bad or that he’s injured.

just tired of the endless glazing, moving the MVP criteria to fit him, and just general lack of criticism that other all time players get that seem to just slide off this guy. HOF PR

Half of these comments are just getting jokes off tbh theres prob worse slander on twitter but it’s just apart of nba fandom atp.

Every time Rudy plays well (more often than not), the dumbest mfs alive skip over it entirely and start talking about hypotheticals where he plays poorly lol