You’d think Shaq of all people would understand this. Maybe he just has suppressed trauma from Ben Wallace clamping him up in the finals. Shaq hates bigs that have successful careers due to defensive dominance.

Jokic/Gobert is this generation’s Shaq/Wallace.

lol he can’t rate jokic highly and think gobert is a bum it’s one or the other

Doesn’t matter if you do, Shaq will just ignore it and use his one and only argument “ringz Ernehh”

I feel like they chose jumping head-first into a bad matchup over facing OKC again early on and probably getting curb-stomped. I seriously do not understand why you would take that risk when the Rockets are right there with issues that people were aware of leading to the postseason.

Gobert vs Wemby if that happens will also be spectacular

Hey this is your fault. We benched everyone we could 🙁

To be fair for a majority of his career he did own Rudy.

The Nuggets could still win the series obviously since its only 2-1, but even if they do the Wolves are going to make it a battle the whole way. Would have been much better for them to have just matched up with Houston instead for sure.

Losing games on purpose to avoid matchups is so fucking nasty and pathetic tho. I would hope no person who likes basketball would support that buffoonery

Surprisingly, historically not really. Gobert used to be kind of not amazing at defending amazing offensive centers, compared to his ability to roam and orchestrate a defense 

Individually Jokic has had some monster games against Gobert, but Gobert’s philosophy is that he’ll take those hits if he manages to suppress the rest of the team’s offense enough to win

When defensive advanced stats catch up to offensive ones

Defense is not half the game, but what Gobert is doing is impressive

It will never happen as long as places like Inside the NBA continue to disrespect bigs that are great defenders but are offensively challenged like Gobert.

Shaq constantly downplaying Goberts impact just gets repeated over and over by places like r/NBA and narratives are solidified because Shaq is a legend, funny, and people love the show (myself included even though I cannot stand some of their talking points)

Yeah it is crazy disrespectful to Gobert tbh

haha

With Rudy’s +18 that’s a 39 point swing in one game for a meh stat. I think both players are the peak of defense and offense respectively but these propoganda posts one way or another are just wild.

It’s not been fast, this is now Rudy’s 3rd straight excellent playoff run.

Great players get more credit for wins than they deserve but the other side is they inherit more responsibility for losses

Dawg, Christian Braun, THJ, Bruce Brown and Jamal Murray ALL had good games in game 2 and Jokic STILL chucked them out of the game.

Even this game you can’t use the “his team is dogshit” excuse when you shoot 27% from the field as a CENTER, have more turnovers than assists and are genuinely atrocious on defense.

Ayo Dosunmu got basically all his points in the paint and Jokic didnt even TRY to contest some of those, even without being in foul trouble.

You wanna use the bad teammates excuse? Set the tone and play well. Nuggets had a better rating this game with Jokic in the bench, so clearly that excuse doesnt work

Jokic not having a supporting cast has been the entire narrative around the Nuggets falling short…

Yeah, they’ve roster construction of the Nuggets isn’t that great. But Jokic is also playing well below his standards. Gobert and the Wolves have been great against Jokic.

Nuance isn’t allowed on the internet, SORRY