[Highlight] Charania: Victor Wembanyama’s symptoms did not worsen and he was able to do cardio work yesterday. He is hopeful to travel with the team to Portland and his status for game 3 is in question
Glad he’s doing better but he should still sit game 3 at minimum. No need to rush back too fast. The team also needs to step up in his absence.
Definitely he should sit the next game out and hope the rest of the team can win it. Being down 1-2 isn’t the worst thing. His health is way more important.
Man, who says we’re gonna go down 1-2. What the hell? Our team is great without Wemby. It’s amazing with him.
Yeah we choked that 1 away big time, def should have won without him. Should be a big learning experience for everyone and fuel for game 3
Going small kind of killed them though, I think they gotta try running a mediocre backup big instead of Carter at the 5. Plumdog millionaire legacy game inc?
It’s still a road game and they young af.
Spurs are the third-best road team in the NBA this season
But they’re the second best team in the NBA this season, so they’re actually slightly worse on the road than they should be.
arent they the second best? even if you exclude the nba cup semis their record on the road is better than the pistons.
Meaning that would be the worst case scenario if he doesn’t play and it isn’t that bad. So there’s no reason to rush him to play game 3.
Great is a stretch. There’s a reason this guy is more valuable to his team than anybody else. The team is built around him and there is nobody else with his size and ability. I’m really surprised that they are still favored by 1.5 pts. Still, a “great team” would be favored by more in a road playoff game against a play-in team.
“Amazing” in the sense that it is a decent basketball team. No team, even OKC is amazing without their primary ball handler. Honestly the way you’re repeating yourself sound like you’re coping hard lol.
You think Wemby is the primary ball handler on a team with 3 point guards?
They played .667 basketball without Wemby this season
Yeah concussions are no joke.
If there’s an injury you want to take seriously and take extra precautions it’s this
My guess spurs are keeping the option open just to force Portland to prepare for it
Players being getting concussions in game all the time and they don’t even come out the game.
There’s still so much that we don’t know about the long term effects of concussions, specifically with CTE, and yet it is so incredibly dangerous and potentially fatal. Especially since it is an invisible injury.
Not worth rushing someone back over.
Thanks for you opinion Doctor
I’m interested in your diagnosis for Jdub
One of my best friends was a semi-pro MMA fighter.
Took a head knock and came back a little too early and the next one ended his career.
This was a few years ago and he’s now taken a step back and is writing a Masters paper on the long term effects of CTE himself but he can’t work more than an hour or two at a time without getting exhausted.
I’m not saying I’m an expert but I know that this shit really shouldn’t be taken lightly as people seem to treat it.
Spurs should be active with keeping him safe from himself. The Den-Minn series is going to go long. If the guards for SA are as good as everyone (else[hater here]) thinks this shouldn’t be a problem against a 7 seed first time playoff team.
Both teams have a decent mix between untested playoff first-timers and vets with lots of playoff experience.
Yeah sure, you got Jrue and I guess timelord and grant. But that’s not exactly a grizzled vet group. Jrue is great but one man doesn’t stop the whole team from being playoff virgins.
When Hali, Nembhard and Nesmith had their first playoff run we had Pascal, Myles and TJ. But it was still a first time playoff run.
We are literally built exactly like you guys were last year. And in fact after we walloped you last regular season when you guys were on a hot streak, I predicted us being a Cinderella team this year, like how you guys were last year. And now look where we are.
The NBA is not going to allow him out there until he passes an independent medical exam
Our front office and medical staff is overly cautious with injuries. Almost to a fault.
It’s just not worth jeopardizing his health over.
100%. It would be tragic for Wemby to have a “what if” type of legacy. Make sure he’s fully recovered. I know I have a Blazers flair but I’m just speaking as a basketball fan and a big fan of watching him play
I feel the same way. I’m not a big fan of the discourse around concussions. It’s always about how quickly they can return to play, and it should be more about the players’ health. Its a head injury and you dont mess around with that.
Yeah they should be good enough to win a few games without him.
Losing an mvp candidate and DPOY winner is hard. If the Thunder lost SGA I don’t think they have it easy against the Suns
Start believing in our team, bro.
Lol wtf
They wouldn’t have it easy, but I would still expect them to be able to win a series against a #8.
They’re definitely talented enough and work hard enough to do it too. Any team would be better with Wemby, but you can still win a first roung playoff series with those dudes if he needs to sit a few games.
Look at how poorly Kevin Love played after missing just one game from a concussion in the 2016 Finals. He looked like a completely different player. Wemby definitely should take an extra game or two off.
Still locked down curry at the end
Wemby’s going to be the most important player in the league in a couple of years, I’ll never forgive San Antonio if they fuck around, play him in game 3, and anything lingers, even a little bit.
NFL took over Christmas Day, so the NBA is taking their concussion protocols
Blue tents are gonna look weird court-side ngl
They try to use the tent to hide Wemby but his head neck and torso are sticking out the top.
They are finally forced bring in a giraffe doctor
Game 3? Would be thrilled to have him back by game 6.
I think he will probably miss game 3 and come back for game 4
Spurs organization is smart enough to know not to throw him into a very winnable game 3. They should only put him in if Portland goes up 2.
Concussions are serious and also very easy to worsen if you put unnecessary pressure on your body, I’ve had one before.
Yup. And getting concussions b2b is where you start teetering on long term health effectes
Yes the risk of b2b is the biggest concern
He’s been playing Ball his whole life and this is probably the first time he’s ever gotten one in a game.
You have not even slightest way of knowing that. Concussions happen in basketball all the time
Also having had a concussion makes him more susceptible to another one
We have one of the most cautious medical staffs and front offices. Even Mitch is extremely long term focused with everything. So, I am not too concerned with him being back in too early.
However, the fan in me is wanting him back immediately. That’s why they don’t let me make the decisions.
Yeah it’s one thing to do cardio in an empty gym vs having dudes slam into repeatedly at game speed, before he went down we had like 3 different guys rotating on him constantly being physical. I’m going to game 3 so selfishly I want him to play but the risk seems way too high to throw him out there, he’s only 22 gotta think long term.
Also the fact that realistically they can win g3 without him, it will just be harder.
Yeah Spurs are still a very good and very deep team without Wemby
If the Spurs manage to win game 3 I think there is zero chance of him playing game 4.
I’d assume if they win, he’ll continue to sit. If they lose game 3, he’s back for game 4.
There may not be a Game 6. (Dramatic anime character look)
nah he’s def back by game 4 or 5
Hey that’s great news
This is just gamesmanship. Everyone is 90%+ sure Wemby won’t play Game 3, but why confirm it for your opponent?
I don’t think people believe he’ll play in game 3, but it could be an indicator that he’s back sooner than we think
They have to confirm it shortly before the game for the same reason. No surprise lineups, no Bobby Boucher at halftime shenanigans.
Pretty sure Portland already planned for wemby not playing
Independent neurologist making a big deposit soon lol
Nah hes been out and about since and seems ok, it was likely a mild concussion so this isnt unexpected
I’m just memeing, but I will say I was out and about after my first concussion too, it made the second one happen easier because it never really healed the first time
Cte maxxing /s
I basically didn’t even understand what a concussion really was my first time getting it. I got it doing a flip on a wakeboard and I thought I needed to just tough it out and keep riding. It messed me up so bad. I could barely function.
Yup I got mine playing pickup football. Went to work later that day and was just slow and out of it. A couple months later I bumped into a fire extinguisher and that messed me up for a whole year of brain fog. Went to the ER and they confirmed it
It looked like it hurt like hell, but he definitely didn’t stumble or stagger running back to the locker room. Caution is best, but I imagine he’s back sooner rather than later.
He did stagger significantly when he first tried to stand up, but yeah after a few secs he was able to jog back to the locker room.
I feel like a game 4 return is reasonable
Glad it wasn’t as severe as it seemed but a Game 3 return would be crazy.
It’s hard to tell how severe a concussion is just based on how it looks. Just because it looks bad doesn’t mean it is bad. Game 3 would be crazy to me. But he was with the team yesterday in bright lighting and in seemingly good spirits so it seems maybe it isn’t as bad as it looked. Though when he does return, I’ll be holding my breath every time he baby giraffes his way to the basket
From what I understand, concussion is not a linear process in the sense that symptoms can emerge and/or amplify as late as 48 hours after the injury. So it’s still too early to know exactly what his timeline is gonna be
Every situation is different but this is accurate. A friend of mine just got one snowboarding last week and after the initial discomfort wore off, he felt fine the next day or so but then crashed and was horrible for a couple of more days before slowing getting back to normal.
Thanks Doctor 🤡
Never said I was. Also, doesn’t change that I’m correct
I mean from what you understand. Right?
I was very careful in my wording and didn’t imply more than I could understand. Now it’s time to stop responding. I’m not a fan of interacting with kids online.
Spurs would be smart to sit him game 3
It would be insane to try and play him in game 3. Even game 4 might be pushing it.
If legit docs give an independent green light then I would have no problem with him playing.
Damn, cardio a few days after a concussion is dirty work. Let the guy’s brain recover.
It’s part of the protocol, can do light cardio 24hr after, then after 48h bunch of tests and assessments. I think it’s pretty black and white testing and NBA had their own concussion staff that gets consulted by team doctors
There are actually better outcomes if you incorporate cardio in a controlled manner and ramp up starting 24 hours after a concussion. The old advice of sitting in a dark room for a week with no stimulation is outdated.
100% will have him sit game 3 and come back game 4 at the earliest.
He was at the spurs celly for KJ winning 6th man and he looked well
He was? I couldn’t see him in the video
0% chance the Spurs will put Wemby on the court before he is ready. This season was all cash money and they know they don’t have to rush it.
How much do you think Ernie hates talking to Hairpiece Harry?
I’d be stunned if he plays game three, even game four seems iffy.
Honest question: I thought the NBA mandated a 48 hour inactivity period if diagnosed with a concussion. What happened to that?
Its been 48 hrs…
Edit: its been 24 hours since not 48, 24 is the rest window
No? Game 2 started Tuesday at 9:30 PM ET. 48 hours would be today at 9:30 PM ET.
Ah my b its not that, its that 24 hours is the rest period, 48 hours is mandatory before playing again
Its been 24 hrs since the game so he stwrted the light aerobic tests and had no worsening symptoms
Oh I see. I was misled by the high level summaries that said 48 hours of inactivity, but that’s not fully correct.
Decided to check the text of the concussion protocol and it says after a brief rest period (24-48 hours) players may resume light workouts with supervision but you can’t have full participation for 48 hours
Is it 48 hours from game start time or time of the entry into concussion protocol?
I’d assume time of concussion, but the game time was the easiest for me to benchmark.
Also see my other response. It’s not a full 48 hour inactivity period. They can start light workouts after a “brief period (24-48 hours) of rest”
Who got a worse concussion protocol NBA or NFL
He shouldn’t play
He wont in game 3, spurs org just wont confirm that b4 the game
Uhhh, he should sit game 3. Dont take your chances please. He’s got a long careeer to go
Great. I really like that the league takes concussions very seriously. The story of Maurice Stokes is a tragic one.
For basically everyone saying he shouldn’t play here, just be aware that this is going to be a fight between Wemby (who HATES being held out) and the medical staff (who will want to be cautious). I also think he should rest longer, but holding him out if he clears the criteria to play is going to be pretty hard.
I don’t think the guy who doesnt play that much HATES being held out
holy shit
I know it’s the playoffs, but coming back in 3 days from a concussion seems unheard of. Seemed like all the comparable examples given right after it happened had him out for at least a week. Really hope we’re not putting his long term health in jeopardy for this.
People who are saying “he should sit game 3” are just seeing it in games missed. They’re thinking “2 missed games is too much” without thinking about what happened. Slamming your head into the floor really hard should not result in 4 days of rest. Two weeks would be ideal to see if he needs to be ruled out for good or not. Yes that likely means the season is over but so what?
For real !! Isn’t concussion protocol like 10 days ?
48 hrs
Ufff. Yay. I think this G3 is pivotal. Being reductive on purpose but win that u win the series.
I wonder .. If Spurs can win game 3, then they test and see if they win game 4 without Vic. If they’re up 2 games they prob definitely won’t bring him back game 5. Only will bring him back if necessary? I see them basically just seeing how long they can rest him.
Many NBA fans are in shambles rn
Edit: you can see them still here in this thread.
I know he’s really really good but it was surprising seeing how many people were hoping he was really hurt.
He should legit sit for a week. Any other job in which you sustain a concussion, a week off is pretty basic. He legit slammed the fuck out of his head and seemed to be seeing stars in the moments after. We obviously didn’t see how he handled to concussion tests, but brain injuries are just not to be fucked with. Not even for his basketball career, but his life as a human being. If I’m the spurs, I’m playing this extremely conservatively. If he bumps his head again within the week, that could be genuinely serious.
Spurs can definitely beat the Blazers even without Wemby. If they can win one of the road games, he should at least play by Game 5. Best case scenario and Spurs win two and closes out the series at home.
I wouldn’t even have him travel. I know they fly private but he shouldn’t play in Game 3 and even if they think he can and should play in Game 4, he could always fly out a day later.
Def feel like they shouldn’t rush him back for game 3 seems kinda reckless
I wonder why you feel that way lol
Actually I’m going tomorrow and love to see him live, I just don’t want his career to get stunted because he got back to back head injuries in a week
If I tell you Wemby shouldn’t do that reckless spin move, you would have laughed at me as well.
And the Blazers should have drafted KD over Greg Oden. Shit happens.
I’d be suprised if he plays. Spurs shouldn’t have a problem winning the series even down 2-1
When K Love got a concussion in the 2016 finals he only missed 1 game wouldn’t be surprised if Wemby misses game 3.
I think that’s more evidence of the “fuck it it’s the Finals, I’ll play with a concussion” mindset than anything
Very encouraging news, but I would still sit him out for game 3 just for safety reasons.
This feels short-sighted
Head injuries are no joke. You don’t want to rush back from those.
Would be irresponsible to play him g3. Playing g4 would give him 5 days of recovery which I think is good
Rest him until next round
Fox and the other guys will just have to step up
On the bright side, if they do, it’s big confidence for all of them going on to face whoever wins that Denver Minnesota series
Kind of like how the lakers aside from LeBron are getting more minutes than usual and building confidence
They shouldn’t need him. He’s far too valuable to risk in a series they can win without him.
Unfortunately he seems like exactly the kind of dweeb who cares about the health of his brain. In the hard nosed basketball I grew up with, nobody thought twice about baby problems like “concussions,” “CTE,” etc.
And actually if you really do your own research, you’ll find CTE is a myth perpetrated by the same people who brought us global warming
Oh hello. A kyrie fan, I presume?
Now there’s a ball player. He doesn’t care about his brain at all