99% of voters are narrative driven morons.

This is from a man that said Joker beating the clippers in round last year would be a career defining win for Jokic. 

He said the 3 day extended break on voting for Luka’s/Ant’s/Cade’s appeal is what gave him time to rethink his decision and change his vote. He talks about the whole thing at 1:12:17 of his most recent podcast

Part of his charm is that he’s a fan with bias, and he has said many times Jokic is his favourite non Celtic.

Peer Pressure

Anyone who cares what he says isn’t interesting to me

Jokic beating wemby. that’s what it was.

His own fried brain

He probably realized that that was just recency bias and that it’s an award for the entire season, not one game.

another month of the season?

In general Jokic has seemingly made a big push at the finish line though SGA will win comfortably

As late as late March/early April he was 4th in MVP odds on every website due to his cold stretch in February/early March but the combination of a few factors (Denver’s winning streak, Luka’s injury causing the Lakers to drop below Denver at the last second, and his clutch shots against Wemby) have seemingly gotten him back up to 2nd based on the MVP tracker so far

Like it’s not that long ago that everyone was saying Wemby had the only shot to take the MVP from SGA now I believe he has 1 1st place vote to Jokic’s 7 among ~30 confirmed voters so far

Dude despises the Thunder

Most voters were begrudgingly giving the vote to sga especially after he won it last year too. Nothing in the last month warranted Jokic to be over sga in the mvp race imo but oh well

doesnt take much gymnastics to vote for jokic

They have an unhealthy love for him. I get he’s really good but they need to relax lol

It’s ok and possibly preferred to do that

Puts more thought into than most. May not agree with him, but he believes these awards help tell the history of the leagues and tries his best to remember that when voting. Idk, it was a tough year with three pretty good choices. Seems natural to flip a bit when it’s so close and you’re actually putting thought into it. 

and you know it he wont feel an ounce of guilt voting for Jaylen Brown if the Celtics has the Thunder’s record this season.

Not to mention the Thunder were without their second best player for like ²⁄₃ of the season and their starting center also missed like half the season. Hell even Caruso and Ajay Mitchell each missed 25+ games each. I know the Thunder are a deep team, but the fact they were missing all those guys for that much time and still had the best record in the league should be a feather in SGA’s cap.

Yeah he didn’t put up a better season than Curry’s 2nd MVP season lmao

Greatest season by a guard since MJ??

He’s won three MVPs, have you considered that he’s just that good?

Rodman averaged 13.1. Jokic averaged 12.9. That’s plenty close enough to make a comparison. Not a “different level” of number.

14asts a game and 19rebs a game for the uninitiated

Yes, it’s that crazy

Jokic is a lot closer to peak Russ in those categories. Of course that wouldn’t be used to bolster his case, though lol

You say it like a vote for Jokic is like voting for Jaylen Brown. It’s a perfectly defensible choice, even if you don’t agree with it.

Celtics were the first team to run an all black lineup for what it is worth. (Which isnt much, but it is a fun fact.)

Nuggets would’ve had to be the 1 seed for Joker to have any real consideration for the award, that or average 30-20-10 and be the #2 seed. Regardless of whether he deserves the award or not he will need to win another championship or be so unquestionably the best player in the world they have to give him the award. Him getting another MVP puts him into such elite company media won’t vote for him unless they have to.

There’s no sadly lol. Jokic had his chance in the 3rd matchup with Chet and iHart out and Shai outplayed him thoroughly. Everyone is better than 2 until it’s time to be better

Not sad at all

Any other player and its not even a discussion, but Jokic is apparently the only player in NBA history who we ignore team record for when considering MVP

but what if he is going to be and people lose a lot of money to betting houses

Oh don’t worry had Jalen Brown on first team all nba over Cade and Brunson lol

Its crazy him and the rest of the ringer guys still get to have this huge sway over awards voting when they are all biased as fuck towards their teams and the players they like

They don’t even try to hide how biased they are

Typically, rebounds are secured by players playing close to the basket. These are usually larger players and do not initiate the play. Furthermore, those close to the basket simply take the close short (losing that assist). 

Assist leaders are usually lead guards who start a possession. They dictate who gets the ball. They are often good ball handlers due to a lower center of gravity and being more nimble. The height and weight are also viewed as a disadvantage when gathering a rebound. 

The prototypical rebound body does not align with the prototypical assist body. Even specialists like Draymond Green who excels in both do not dominate the way Jokic has in those two categories. 

you wouldn’t understand what you were watching anyway

Does anyone think Jokic is not great? It’s just stupid to flip flop on his voting when literally nothing happened in that time frame other than he let his personal bias admittedly affect his vote. IMO this hasn’t really been a MVP race and the voting will likely not be as close as people are expecting regardless. The gamba podcasts and companies are all just pushing this “close race” narrative when in reality I think there’s been a clear cut number 1 the whole year.

This is blatant lies lol LeBron fans started this whole best player in the world = MVP argument

I’ve seen so many “LeBron should have 10-12 MVPs” arguments and they often include years like 2014-16 where he clearly wasn’t the best RS player because “he’s LeBron you wouldn’t take anyone over him”

Yes they fucking were

are you insane or just a bandwagon/new fan? Literally every year LeBron had people trying to make cases for him, including media members who voted for other players because they said “he cant win it every year”

Yall just be making shit up 😭

What is this comment 😂😂😂

Jokic averaged 30/13/10 on 66 TS% last year. He was the first player ever to finish top 3 in PPG, RPG, APG (he also finished second in steals lol). No player in NBA history has had a season like that ever.

You listed team accomplishments that mostly happened AFTER the voting as a reason for Shai 🤣

You do understand the MVP voting happend before most of what you wrote ? Other than his team record evrything else happend in the playoffs.