Orlando really went from: “our team is pretty good lets get them some help by getting Bane”

To: “We gotta get Bane some help” over the span of 1 season.

Doesn’t help the other guys around them are mostly non threats too

Franz just looks injured. I am honestly surprised he even cleared to play. Hard to really figure out fits if one guy can barely move.

I really like Desmond Bane and he’s probably the best player on that magic team. But trading 4 picks and going all in on this roster is nuts

It’s why they added Bane but he’s not enough. They still need at least a stretch big but I don’t see how they get one of the quality they need.

Magic were real frivolous with their rookie extensions. Going to bite them in the ass.

Franz has now had 3 straight postseasons where he’s been complete ass

Get rid of Paolo and build around franz

The franchise itself is ass

Giving out those rookie extensions unfortunately, wasn’t the right move for them

I think you can have two players that are less than average at 3. The issue is they have to give you more in other areas and one of them has to be the main facilitator. This is how the Warriors got away with Draymond + one other not great shooter in lineups, Draymond plays a facilitator. While Franz and Banchero can pass, they are both also the no. 1 and 2 offensive options and are not main facilitators. If they want their offense to work well they need to stagger their minutes and make sure that one of them is the main facilitator when they play together and I am not sure it either of them are capable of that at this point in their career. On top of that they have to have not just average but really good shooters around them.

Never forget Fraud Wagner shot 1/15fg in a game 7

Franz was playing hurt and is nowhere near 100 percent, and he shot the 3 ball fine this year. Not to mention he was a good shooter his first two years in the league. I think he’s ok as far as shooting goes. Paolo on the other hand is absolute dog shit and shooting and a lot of other areas of basketball.

Paolo is so fucking ass when the team needs him the most. It is not just about 3-pt, the tactics, coaching, everything is ass. I’d never trust Banchero with the ball when the team desperately needs the shot, I’d rather let Jamal Cain shoot from the logo

I suppose Detroit have done it somehow but then again maybe it will undo them in the playoffs…

Which is why they traded 5 picks for Bane. Not enough though, Suggs can’t shoot either

Franz was given a max because of his 3P shooting btw.

Maybe they could… put some shooters around them…

Magic should probably blow it up and trade both. You aren’t winning anything being the eastern conference Kings ( in baffling roster construction)

I seriously do not understand paolo taking damn near every crucial shot in the final stretch when he was missing every single shot. At that point sub his bum ass out, he’s one of the worst ball hogs in the league and creates turnovers habitually

The only thing that went wrong in that game was giving Banchero the ball.

If they fed it to Franz the game would be over.

Going ⁷⁄₂₂ FG is inexcusable.

Paolo needs to go to whoever the best shot doctor is rn cause he’s regressing hard rn

Paolo is overrated bum he not a 1 option

Paolo also isn’t really good at anything. Franz is at least a good (not great) passer.

But having two guys like that just gives the other 3 guys on the court a bad time.

Even worse with Zion Williamson and Derik Queen

When Andre Drummond makes more 3s than your top two options combined.

Paolo to Seattle & Fox to Vegas

You don’t really wanna build a team where your two best guys play the same position

Trade Paolo. Build around Franz and Bane. Orlando will never do this tho.

They need a stretch big desperately. Instead of overpaying for Bane (who admittedly is not the problem) they should have tried to acquire Markkanen from Utah.

And now they get to play us 😈

Is it bad that I thought this was our Magic sub judging by the comments before seeing other team’s flairs …. lolllllll … oh god I just want this season over now.

You can win if you have a good offensive scheme an if you has a true PG

Ak redemption arc from beyond the grave

One gotta go.

Houston Rockets: Hold my beer

2 players are being number 1 and 2 options who do not have the skill sets to back that up. Both are decently good players, but have massive contracts which sort of forces the hand to continue building around them.

Modern league demands 3PT shooting ability from ideally 4 out of 5 starters and usually the center is not a 3PT threat. This means that if your forwards can’t shoot from 3 they need to be exceptional on everything else. And that’s not the case with these two. Paolo just has too many flaws on top of not being a good defender. Franz is sort of okay and maybe could’ve worked as number two if number one is like top 5 player in the league. When your number 1 is the same player as you are and even he isn’t All-NBA level player that is a huge problem. And even then his contract is still a problem for building the rest of the team.

It doesn’t help that Paolo gives zero effort. Guy just stays in the corner and jogs back on d

Bane stepped up tonight. Can orlando even get the same haul for trading away either Bancherco or Wagner? Probably not, but no way they can meanigfully retool the roster without letting go of either one of them

bro andre drummond hit 2 3s against them while neither of them could hit one I’m dying

Way too black and white - they have far more flaws that limit than just 3pt shooting

Okc won with a bunch of poor shooters. GSW won in 22 playing a bunch of poor shooters

This is just super casual analysis

I think franz is a better fit for most teams than paolo

The sad part is that they truly never had a real shot to see what they could all be together. I know that’s what Weltman was hanging onto, all the injuries were not his fault

Kings top 3 pick for Paolo. Who says no?

It’s okay Jalen Green will save Orlando

Gigashit team

Franz is still injured so this is not about this game—he actually got a little jumpshot going before he went down. I really like his game but, contrary to his fans’ beliefs, he still does not have a reliable J, especially 3 ball, the only kind that would matter in playoff level games. His shooting form is not right either.

Same with Paolo and I don’t think this will change easily, at least not any time soon.

That’s the reason why I always find them incompatible. Modern NBA teams only have tolerance for one spacing black hole. Looks like the team will go through major shakeups this summer. They should part with one of them and retool.

Hopefully Franz gets healthy and develops an ok three ball, which is totally doable, soon.

You know what, it’s all fate. If they didn’t have that Berlin game, he would’ve recovered by now.

I had a magic fan tell me he would rather have Paolo and Franz for the future than Shai after we lost to the Mavs in the playoffs. How the tables have turned and caught on fire and went to hell

And so many people clowned the Bulls for the Vooch trade but at least Vooch was consistent. Wagner is never healthy, can’t make 3s, and is only theoretically a plus defender. And the other pick they gave up turned into Jett Howard, who I doubt will be in the NBA next year. AKME was a historically bad front office, but the Vucevic trade hasn’t aged as badly as people used to say imo.

People will say it’s an overreaction, and I do get that.

• I still think firing the coach is a certainty.
  
• Trading PB is absolutely the right move this summer.
  
  • His value hasn’t cratered at all.
    
  • We know that PB and Franz together just will not work in the playoffs.
    
• The only caveat is how they feel about Franz health wise.
  
  • If they’re comfortable with his healthy going forward build around Bane/Franz/Black/Suggs.
    
  • If not then it becomes a lot more difficult to decide on the future.
    
• We’ve basically never seen a team go from 2 franchise guys to trading them in less than a year.
  
  • I’d be in favor of trading PB regardless just because of his contract personally. I’m not a Magic fan, so as someone who wanted to keep Trae there may be more sentiment for PB than I can understand from the outside.
    
  • I’d be in favor of keeping Franz, but his health is a huge red flag.
    
  • Suggs and Bane would go nowhere for me.
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This will be one of the more fascinating teams to watch this summer. Lot of decisions to make from executive, stars, and how you surround the stars you choose to keep.

Honestly I like the idea of them trading both players. Trade Paolo for Giannis and then trade Wagner for players that fit better around Giannis and Bane

Randle for Franz 🙏

You can build with Paolo but he has to go to the right team.

The easy ones that work for him are the Spurs, Wolves, Hornets, Pistons, Thunder.

The issue is none of those teams really need him except maybe the Spurs just to have a good scoring presence in the paint that isnt Wemby.