Draymond Green: “To sit and say today that my defence is more impactful than Victor Wembanyama I think that would be a lie and I’ve never been one to not be honest. I wouldn’t put myself above him but I wouldn’t put myself below anyone.”
He says “I wouldn’t put myself below anyone ELSE”
OP really trying to rage bait
If you put “else” it removes the post. I removed one word at at time and for some reason “Else” was the trigger
Not sure why people think I would remove that specifically and keep everything else.
I don’t think he’s lying lol.
If you search for “else” and sort by recent, there aren’t any posts with that word in the title.
Why would I lie and I don’t give a fuck if people think I am baiting. Many users bait and mods don’t do anything so why should I care if it won’t get removed.
It’s the principle.
How is there principles to posting on arr nba
I apply my personal principles to my online presence as well: lie about meaningless shit whenever possible because it’s fun
So fucking real
In the words of Batman from the AceVane Universe “I lie because that shit is fun, I don’t have anybody to protect. MY PARENTS ARE DEAD”
Ethical posting 🤣
Probably a filter to block “anybody else think x” type posts
What a great website I’ve chosen to waste my time on
Anybody @#$%&! think this is a great website to waste their time on?
Reminds me of a r/television post about Daniel Dae Kim. The OP had to call him Daniel D. Kim because their previous posts were getting deleted due to the Dae part of his name.
If that’s true then who am I supposed to get angry at?
Reddit mods are always available.
I mean, like the correct way to write the quote would be to either include an ellipses to suggest that the quote in the title is unfinished or to use brackets and right a word other than else that conveys the original meaning.
Weird as way to tigger the dropping of a post. And if so ending with a period was not necessary it’s still bait.
*The universe is trying to rage bait us
Girl you lying! Lol
Yep. Just karma farming Draymond hate. 😂
Him claiming to be the second best defender in the league is also pretty wild.
You new here or something? He’s probably the highest IQ defender in the league. Yall don’t know defense unless the whole team is great on defense lol.
Just because Joe Burrow doesn’t have a good O-Line and his receivers are dropping balls, that doesn’t mean he’s a bad quarterback. Dray is the QB of the defense and defends bigs well despite his shorter stature. He organizes the team, calls out tendencies and plays, he analyzes the entire floor and communicates.
What else are you trying to do when you post a Draymond quote?
Confirmed, Draymond would only bottom for Wemby
So much for the never not telling the truth bit lol
Meaning “Im still better than Doody Gobert”.
draymond is one of the biggest wemby glazers in the league. dude loves him
great recognizes great
Which is weird considering how much he absolutely “loves” the other famous defensive elite Frenchman lmao
To be fair part of that is I imagine Draymond thinks (and does) deserve some recognition rewards wise besides the one DPOY as he is one of the best defensive players of his era.
Draymond is not a better defensive player than Gobert though it’s just jealousy
Prime Draymond was genuinely one of the best defenders of the 2010’s and the fact he’s fallen off recently doesn’t change that
That doesn’t mean he’s better than Gobert though, more versatile sure.
Draymond had the more valuable defensive skillset in a playoff setting TBH
Prime Draymond had basically no flaws as a defender. You can’t really say the same about Rudy
You’re on something if you truly believe that.
Yeah it’s called 20⁄20 vision. Not everyone gets to play with Steph Curry
How the fuck does that correlate with Draymond’s defense?
It’s your perception of success. Rudy Gobert is a winning player as shown by the fact he is a walking top 5 defense and essentially single handedly carried Utah’s defense for years. B2B conference finals and almost a decade of playoff success. If he played with an all time great like Steph Curry, he would have rings and he would be in the Parthenon of defensive greats just like Draymond is viewed currently.
imagine rudy catching lobs and setting hard screens for curry lol, plus the rebounding advantage. and actually being surrounded by good perimeter defenders. swap draymond and goberts positions for the last 12 years and the warriors are still a dynasty and draymonds teams wouldn’t reach any success
Completely underselling what Draymond’s versatility meant to those teams
bait used to be believable
He was without a doubt a better defender than Rudy
i think it actually perfectly tracks.
ive maintained Wemby is the greatest thing to happen to Gobert haters since his first game. he does what Gobert does but also has an offensive bag. makes Gobert look dollar tree, even if he is one of the greatest defenders in league history
He also has more defensive range than Gobert, which is crazy to say about a all time drop/paint defender. They play Wemby in a zone or he plays up on his man at the 3 and yet he rotates and positions himself to still be in plays in the post. It’s exactly what draymond is complimenting in this clip elite positioning and movement on D with all of the defensive tools.
surprisingly gave Gobert his flowers a lot in recent times, even after getting knocked out the playoffs last season
I think Wembanyama plays like Draymond in his prime except he’s a foot taller. Wembanyama understands the space and timing so well to stop the offense in so many different ways. That is what made Draymond great at defending. I’ve seen Wembanyama move to a play space because he knew he could disrupt something, even after making a defensive play. I think he would be an elite defender at any height 6’5 and up.
Some of the things Wembanyama does though, just simple things would be a highlight of the year for almost anyone else. It’s quite scary.
One doesn’t get played off of the floor on defense in pivotal moments. I can’t blame him.
He loves it that Wemby talked shit back to him after the dunk they waved off earlier this year
https://youtu.be/FMyzgUh4rro?si=ONpdL3k3ucrywa38
People are gonna rip into him vur hes saying he views himself to be in the same top tier of defensive players as Wemby.
And of course he says that. Most professional athletes have blind confidence. Thats part of what it takes to be a professional athlete.
I mean also he was a generational defensive player. He’s solidly cemented as one of the greatest defensive players the game has seen. He’s past his prime, but as of right now, his legacy as a defensive player is still greater than Wemby’s.
And honestly if im in Draymonds position and I was the anchor of something known as “the death lineup” with 4 rings, im not sure id listen to anyone tell me otherwise either.
The dude is one of the all time greatest defensive players that was instrumental in achieving 4 goddamn rings and being the core defensive anchor of one of the greatest dynasties the sports ever seen.
He’s probably earned the right to confidently say he’s one of the best and that he wouldn’t rank anybody ahead of himself.
I also think it’s one of those things where over 82 games Dray is not a top defender but if you need a top defender for one game I’m still taking Dray over almost anyone except Wemby which is probably how he thinks
He was absolutely a top defender over 82 games back in 2015-2018. Spurs Kawhi was the only defender I would take over him during that period, and even that was debatable. The Warriors dynasty had an elite defense largely because of Draymond.
I want Iguodala
Op didn’t even quote dray properly. He says he wouldn’t put himself above Wemby and wouldn’t put himself below anyone ELSE.
I mean, it’s not even wrong when he says that. You can argue for Gobert in the regular season, but regular and post season combined - Draymond was the best defender of an entire era that preceded Wemby.
As much as I sports hate Draymond, once players get to their twilight or retire, I give them their flowers.
He’s the best “small ball” defensive center of all time. Perfect for the modern era and a perfect teammate for the second best PG of all time and the GOAT shooter.
Best pg*
When LeBron James and kd defer to u when the money on the line it stood becoming s discussion.
Magic is a 3x MVP. I think Curry had a higher peak, but let’s not act like he’s the definitive GOAT PG. Most people would still take Magic.
Sure
it isnt blind confidence he was the engine of the defense of our most recent dynasty and put clamps on the league for a long time
Blind confidence doesnt mean the confidence is unwarranted. Im just implying he will be this confident when comparing himself against anybody regardless.
no every player should be extremely humble and actually shit talk themselves to prop up their opponents
I wish my favorite athlete was more lewholesome💙❤️🩷🤎🖤
His argument in the video is still pretty good, saying his defense is hard to quantify because his goal is to block players from even getting to their spot to shoot
Draymond was the integral piece that made the warriors peak small ball switching defense work
Damn, you’re telling me that the guy that was a multiple all star and defensive player of the year was an important player?
Lots of folks on here want to act like he wasn’t
It’s because Reddit can’t separate the politics and he’s a certified asshole lmfao
Reddit Reddit Reddit, it’s these MUTHAFUCKAS the same ones everywhere else a bunch of MUTHAFUCKAS
I feel like almost everyone respects and recognizes Draymond the player and disrespects Draymond the personality
There’s a lot of people who underrate his ability and reference Shaq calling him “triple single” and such.
You can find thousands in here with “if he were drafted anywhere else he’d be out of the league” ass takes. Tons others think he’s good but not a hall of fame player. Never underestimate the bad takes in here.
I’m sure you can find any stupid take you want. That doesn’t mean it’s a common or worthwhile opinion
I don’t know what to tell you if you don’t think it’s a commonly held opinion amongst NBA fans. You’re probably better off in general if that’s your perspective because it means you avoid the cesspools I swim in.
He was by far the 2nd best player on the team with the wins record and there’s a significant chunk of fans who think he was actively bad lmao
By far? Klay was an all-nba player and elite POA defender. He lost a step after 2019 but Klay was just as much a part of the defense as Draymond was. Warriors weren’t just a top offense, it was the defense that beat teams.
Poole called him an expensive backpack for 30
I still have nightmares from his defense on Aldridge, he was the only player that shut him down like it was nothing. No shade on LMA, he was a great player but Draymond was his kryptonite.
Individually Wemby is a better defender
But Draymond made people better on defense akin to how great playmakers make people better on offense
He’s a much more skilled defensive player than Wemby at his peak. He’s simply 10 inches shorter and has 9 inches less of wingspan
Which took him time to develop into. Wemby will be an incredible defensive anchor too as his IQ and feel for the game increases
Got any metrics on this?
Friendship per 48
4
DEPM and DRAPM
You measure defensive impact using metrics?
Draymond is one of the best defenders of all-time but no he was not on Wemby’s level even in his prime. Wemby’s wingspan, speed, and instincts are that good even if he isn’t as refined yet
The fact youre comparing draymond directly to wemby indicates youre missing the entire point of what Draymond is saying
did you somehow not see that you are replying to a reply
I agree overall but Wemby’s mere presence empowers other defenders too. The aggression that someone like Castle can demonstrate knowing you that he has a pocket Wemby is disgusting.
A lot of our defensive scheme is to hound ball handlers into the paint where Wemby can trap them. You’ll see most of our guards fighting over screens instead of dropping because the threat of being beat isn’t really there when you have Wemby lurking.
lol acting like Wemby doesn’t make everyone better on defense is insane. He allows the team to flourish defensively because he’s the greatest anchor ever that rescues everyone and gives them the belief that they can go harder and get help if needed
Who is acting like that? Guy is just talking about strengths and saying why it’s difficult to compare their defensive value. Saying that Wemby has great individual defense is not acting like dray has zero individual defense skills. Same with the inverse. Cool those jets.
“Individually Wemby is better but…” do you comprehend the implication? There is no but. Wemby clears both individually and team wise as an elevating presence. It literally is easy to compare their defensive value.
Okay but you can see how it’s a different statement to say that Draymond does better at elevating teammates and acting like Wemby does not elevate teammates at all?
I literally do not care if you think Wemby elevates teammates more than peak Draymond. I disagree, but it’s tough to compare, I’m not interested in debating that with you, and it’s also not at all the point I was making.
I was just taking issue with you saying “acting like Wemby doesn’t make everyone better on defense is insane”, because nobody was acting like that.
Since you insist on being aggressively argumentative while simultaneously not comprehending what people are saying, I’m gonna not reply any more.
Unanimous DPOY Victor Wembanyama got a nice ring to it.
Get used to hearing it
Hopefully he’ll be the first MVP, DPOY & FMVP since Hakeem
I feel like it’s possible next year
So, not above or below…. to the side? Behind?
The title is a misquote for clicks. He said he wouldn’t put himself below anyone else, not below anyone period.
When Draymond is actually being modest and bitches still wanna eat crackers
Saying you’re the second best defender in the league at 36 isnt modesty lol.
He said “anyone else”. u/AncientOneAurulius is just trying to give Redditors easy things to feel smug about to drive engagement and it worked.
Read the OPs response in the first post. They said they weren’t able to put “else” in the title and they tried.
If you’re so far behind that you can’t see the guy in front of you, do they even really exist at all?
Eating it.
Below anyone else. So he’s saying that this season he’s number 2 after Wemby.
Wemby is a better defender forsure, but draymond was a master “team defender”? Idk how to say it. Wemby is probably not gonna be asked to do the same stuff. I am not a draymond fan, but he was great in his prime. Rodman mentality, but played the schemes perfectly.
“Quarterbacked” an elite defense for the better part of a decade is how I see it
The term is switch defender.
We’ve had a lot of amazing defenders in the NBA, Dray might be the single greatest switch defender of all time.
Wemby adjacent
Best defender of his generation giving props to the best of the next generation
I’d put him below a couple guys.
Draymond was the best defender in the league and one of the best ever. It’s hard to say what this year would have looked like because of the injuries, but it’s not completely unfounded. It’s just that he’s not SO good at it anymore that he can be a ghost on offense anymore. Doesn’t help him that steph has lost a step.
So he doesn’t hate all foreign players
…else”
Wembanyama doesn’t have many defensive plays that could also be considered assault so I’d agree
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He said “anyone ELSE”. This post is intentionally worded to be rage bait and the person posting this is pathetic.
I don’t like how often I see this guy.
Seriously, like why do we care about every thought this douchebag puts out there??
This is the most reasonable green has ever been
never been one to not be honest
Except when you purposely hurt another player and then go on your dumbass lil podcast and never take any accountability for your actions.
Or the one where he and KD lied to each other about why KD left the Warriors.
Is this the same truth-teller who claims that one Draymond Green of the Golden State Warriors is “not a dirty player” despite video evidence from multiple angles in multiple games doing egregious things to multiple other players?
He’s not better than Wemby, but prime Draymond was one of the most underrated defenders ever. They don’t win 73 games without him.
Go ahead and bash me but Rodman was better.
Artest was better than both.
It’s easier to replace 80% of what Rodman brings than to replace 80% of Artest because truly great perimeter defense is so rare.
He’s literally a psycho.
Bro is a certified mouth breather
You’re old and you suck
Draymond you already know got the worst halitosis
I haven’t watched enough warriors games this year to contest this.
Im a pistons fan who loves Ausars defensive game. It’s elite. But Draymond makes a very good point about defense vs defensive statistics here. I’m not sure if draymond ever had a year as good as ausar this year in terms of defensive statistics (I’m sure it’s either very close or I’m just wrong). But individual defense is going to net you more stats, team / positional defense, especially the way draymond played it, isn’t going to necessarily produce insane statistics at his height. But he was amongst the elite of the elite at defensive positioning when he was in his prime.
Prime Draymond was absolutely in the same tier as Wemby just in a different way. Less “game wrecker” and more “small to medium high IQ things that show up the whole game and get them a win”
That block on a 2 on 1 vs Portland in the playoffs is an all timer https://youtu.be/UAwg3jnN9nY?si=OTnYQ9igGLHnIFWH
Draymond Green is literally Pat Bev if Pat won
Clown shit, as always.