[Bobby Portis] Giannis is looking for a Mike Budenholzer type of coach to establish a culture. When you play the Heat, Celtics, OKC, and Toronto you know exactly how they’re about to play. We didn’t have a set style of fight
New culture will be playing giannis 40 minutes a night. Welcome to the bucks tom Thibodeau
I’ll be a bucks fan on the side if they pick up that great man.
Coaching defense like a mad dog with super high expectations while letting the players play offense freely? Match made in heaven for a superstar like Giannis. I think a lot of the issues Giannis had with previous coaches was the lack of defensive identity. Oh you’ll get an identity from Thibs for sure.
Edit: Hot take but superstars want coaches who 1) let them do what they do best on offense while 2) coaching the other 4 players on the court. They prefer to be coached to a T on defense. Offense is for suggestions/open ended interpretations like you can do this, perhaps go here to ultimately set you up to make the best play yourself etc. On defense it’s more so, do exactly this. Go exactly here, at this exact time.
I think that’s my favorite part about SGA actually. That dude is willing to take coaching. He’s clearly worked on getting into specific spots to run specific actions against the zone.
They should have got rid of Doc rivers “I just don’t know” ass a long time ago..but I think the coach can’t get rehired for like a year after right?
I think that’s if they quit?
Not sure. lol I refuse to do the research right now too
he’s old but he absolutely deserves to be coaching over a lot of the chumps in this league
Hey all I know is that man does get his players to buy in.
They may die but gd they play hard
Well Giannis has been complaining that he wants to play more, maybe Thibs is exactly what he needs.
Are you dead? No? Then get your ass on the court.
Tore an acl? You got one left big dawg get your ass back out there.
You joke but Tom is exactly what a team without a culture needs. Been saying the Wizards should pick him up since they’re done tanking after this year. He’d get them to 40 wins
The Wizards “desperately* need two things:
lol Giannis’ leg would explode by the fifth game of the season and then Giannis would do an interview asking the league the to investigate the Bucks again. And the league’s published findings would just read IT’S THIBS DUDE YOU’RE LUCKY YOU DIDN’T DIE.
It depends does thibs fight for his players? Doc would let Giannis get murdered and just look away
Knicks fan: this is true 🤣🤣
Thibs would lowkey be a great pickup for them
Low key love this combo
Say what you want about that madman, he does nothing if not building a culture.
Would be a good fit tbh. Also Sweeney from San Antonio good first timer to watch for.
Thibs is both the reason the Knicks got to the playoffs and lost in the playoffs when they got there
He’s easily the best choice for them.
That’s hilarious
If only they didn’t have Mike Budenholzer before!
Ehhh, Mike Budenholzer is Mike Budenholzer. But a new coach could be anything, maybe even a Mike Budenholzer!
Doh!
No no no, a Mike Budenholzer TYPE of coach. NOT Mike Budenholzer.
You never go full Budenholzer.
Yeah but Mike Budenhozer is the Mike Budenhozer of Mike Budenhozers
I mean it’s not hilarious when you remember Giannis was sad that Bud got let go, supported him for a long time, and has never really enjoyed a coach as much since
I still don’t understand why Milwaukee didn’t try changing the coaching staff around Bud first. HCs who go to the Conference Finals with multiple franchises don’t just grow on trees.
It’s impressive the collective amnesia reddit has over some things. Go to any thread during the Bucks title run or after, and every top comment is about how the Bucks were winning in spite of Bud and how he wasn’t making any adjustments and should have been fired.
Seriously I still remember every time the Bucks would lose a game, Bud’s play random soundbite would be at the top of the thread
I mean, every assistant is coaching elsewhere in the league right now
HCs who go to the Conference Finals with multiple franchises don’t just grow on trees.
I’m just going to drop the name Ben Sullivan here. He was the shooting assistant for Bud in Atlanta and Milwaukee - then went to Boston for Ime (left after the Bucks won the title in ‘21) and Mazz (for a year) before going back to Ime.
Ben Sullivan would be a very good hire for the Bucks if Horst still has any brain cells left.
Giannis somehow has enough power in Milwaukee to get contracts for his brothers, force the organization to make big trades and take on huge contracts in the name of keeping him happy - but doesn’t have the power to protect a coach who was only a couple years removed from winning a ring?
If Giannis wanted Mike Budenholzer to still be their coach, then Mike Budenholzer would still be their coach (unless Bud chose to quit of his own volition).
I generally like Giannis, but I don’t like his whole schtick of using the power he obviously has to make popular things happen whenever he wants, but then when there’s something unpopular, he magically is powerless to even influence what’s happening.
or Giannis doesnt have any of that power in the first place and its just fans on r/nba thinking he does
You think they want Thanassis because he’s the best guy for that roster spot?
I dont think Giannis showed up in the Front Office, sat down and said sign Thannis or i walk
I think the front office saw their star and was like hmmmm lets make him happy and pretend like he has power, give him Thanassis, lets throw a bone.
Could be a “the league demands we fill these spots and they won’t play regardless, why not use it to appease Giannis?” situation. It aligns with what they’d do regardless, so they did it.
I think it is entirely possible that the team decided to sign Thanassis to keep Giannis happy, without Giannis ever asking for it.
I think this is in bad faith if you followed them at the time. Organizational scapegoating of Bud and pressure to replace him reached a very high level outside of Giannis. I am sure that he eventually rubber stamped it, they would not risk alienating their star, but he spent a lot of time and energy defending Bud both internally and externally to the org and always seemed loyal to him. Eventually Bud lost enough supporters that Giannis had to give him up, but you could see his emotions about it very clearly at the time.
Mike Budenholzer type of coach
couldve sworn the bucks had a coach like this….
Name also begin with an M too coincidentally
And ends with ike Budenholzer
Directed by M. Ike Budenholzer
WHAT A TWIST!
Khris Middleton was actually a dead guy.
M. Budenholzer. No, that’s too obvious. Michael B.
Michael B Budenholzer
You’re talking about Buck Mudenholzer, right?
If I’m allowed to just shout out imaginary coaches that I would want, I would say I want a Joe Mazzulla type coach.
Joe Mazzulla isn’t imaginary, for the record
That’s exactly what he wants you to believe…
…..sweet jesus he’s right over my shoulder isn’t he….
You wish
…no hes standing right in front of you
Is he really 2 kids in a trench coat?
Them kids need therapy
Honestly he is dude. You here the thing he “says”? Imaginary
Neither is Mike Budenholzer
If we’re doing imaginary I want Gordon Bombay.
Quack
Bombay was a hack - always distracted and carried by his players.
Now coach Orion, that dude recognized defense, understood psychology of the game, rewarded talent, and was all about winning the right way.
Thank you!
If you need any validation on this there is no world in which you start Goldberg over Julie the Cat Gaffney. None.
The Flying V was a stupid formations as shown how easily Team Iceland smashed the V. Is that what Giannis wants an offense easily stopped by a wall?
Drunk ass mfer
The Town enthusiast that Joe Mazzulla?
The very same.
Hes about to issue you a coin
Can we do GMs too? Because I’d love a Presti or Brad Steven type GM.
Ted Lasso, who says no?
I’d want a Ryan Seacrest Type tbh
Should honestly hire CP3
Bud returning is perhaps the funniest possible outcome available
Bud just went to get some milk, that’s all
This but it’s nba coaches instead of mayors.
Giannis to raps confirmed 👀👀
That would be the dream
Lol the irony of you guys getting another ring from a superstar rental
Giannis Antetokounmpo… welcome to the Toronto Tempo!!!
His blood debt to Ujiri fulfilled.
saw a post yesterday saying that kawhi was apparently expected to be on the market too. Imagine we win another ring with giannis AND kawhi meanwhile ball’s clippers couldn’t win ONE with PG and Kawhi
WORD
Depends on how much we give up to get him
The pipe dream is finally coming true
Not cmb :(
There’s nonstop flights from Toronto to Athens. Just sayin…
I can’t believe the Bucks fired Budenholzer less than two years after winning a ring, just because Giannis got injured and Budenholzer wasn’t his usual self after his brother died.
Then they fired Adrian Griffin after starting 30-13 just to hire Doc Rivers.
Budenholzer was gonna get fired if we didn’t win in 2021.
He barely made it through his lone Suns season, and pissed off every person in the organization, apparently.
What issues did you guys have with him?
I’d say his ring should’ve bought him at least another year
E: after losing to Miami
C’mon, this is Milwaukee. One single championship isn’t gonna buy you unlimited goodwill…
So tired of this take. Bud was a bad playoff coach for literally every season except 2021. He’s also currently not coaching in the nba, so I think it’s safe to say it was okay to fire him.
The mistake the bucks made was who they replaced him with especially when other awesome options were available
I mean was the firing all that smart of a move? No. Especially with the eventual hiring of Doc Rivers. So fucking worried about playoff adjustments from a coach just to hire one of the biggest underperforming playoff coaches.
Betting on Bud addressing his coaching weaknesses would’ve been a smarter move than hiring/firing Griffin and hiring dipshit Doc
Firing Bud wasn’t a bad idea. It’d gone a little stale. Replacing him with Griffin was bad. Replacing Griffin with Doc was also very bad. It was the replacements that were the issues, especially locking Doc down long-term. I think the Bucks would have looked a lot better with Quinn Snyder, who changed teams that offseason.
I guess we can agree that Ownership/FO are incompetent as hell.
Bud is no longer coaching in the nba and after firing him the options available included Kenny Atkinson and Charles Lee (and Nick Nurse and a year later Jordan Ott).
As I said, the mistake was hiring griffin and then doc. It was not a mistake to fire Bud
I’m not saying you should’ve kept Bud thru 25-26 lol. To me, firing him and replacing him with Griffin then Doc make his firing a stupid move. You just made a parallel move via coaching. At the end of the day, ownership/FO are incompetent and dysfunctional. If they had hired Lee, Atkinson, Ott then yeah they made the right move. But to fire Bud then eventually hire Doc? Might as well have given Bud another year to sort it out.
honestly he was barely a playoff coach in 2021, monty williams just outchoked him
Even decent coaches don’t grow on trees. Nurse was available, and Giannis didn’t want him
Even more than nurse the correct choices were either Atkinson or Charles Lee (who I don’t even think was a finalist for some reason)
Don’t forget they hired Terry Stotts as Griffin’s top assistant during this time too and he was out right before the season started after Griffin yelled at him.
terry stotts as hc is probably the best timeline. would’ve integrated dames offense so much better
Adrian Griffin sucked.
didn’t your team do the exact same thing to vogel the year before this? even got your own adrian griffin in darvin ham
You’d think they would have changed the coaching staff before firing Bud, but nope.
You’re not alone there
Holy fuck when are people gonna stop saying this nonsense
The griffin one was even more head scratching imo
any coach with enough hardness to establish a ‘culture’ is also going to for sure ego check the Freak when he begins subtweeting & sprinkling trade rumors after the 1st 4-game slide next szn. So hope Giannis is ready for that.
Locker room’s like 19 people bro you’re not exempt from the culture yourself.
Giannis has been bought into the culture of that Doc led Bucks team lol
Giannis is very much a culture guy. He wants to follow the coach’s instructions. The coach needs to know what the f he is doing, though.
Mazzulla leans into ego and is absolutely fine with it, as long as it comes with 100% maximum effort. At the beginning of this season he took out any player that gave up a defensive rebound. It was glorious.
Why don’t they just find a coach like Joe Mazzulla who has never had a 4-game slide?
/s
We’re all trying find the guy who did this gif
Is there any proof Giannis wanted him gone ?
I mean, Portis says in this exact video when you’re dealing with superstars like Giannis, you gotta cater to what they want when it comes to who is the coach.
Nice bait so people would bet on Budenholzer in Bucks on Kalshi, but we ain’t buying it
People need to stop with moronic shit you’re just giving them more exposure and it’s not even about that, it’s fucking Bobby Portis saying it because under Bud they didn’t know how good they had it and fans would spew buzzwords like adjustments when Bud was a very good coach
“Bad rotations, no adjustments, doesn’t call timeouts”
Telltale sign of a babbling idiot. Reddit armchair coachery is the worst.
Other than Darvin Ham. That guy actually had awful rotations.
Nothing beats adjustments though because it’s such a good broad term you know, what is he not adjusting? We don’t know but he’s simply not adjusting
When Pop, Phil Jackson and everyone with a brain say those types of “adjustments” are overrated, fans desperately want coaches to pull that one magical move they notice, they have to notice though and wins a game and you’re the GOAT
An extra funny thing is that nobody here would even be able to point out an adjustment if they saw it happen.
Best/worst adjustment I’ve seen in recent years was putting Caruso on Jokic. That adjustment won/lost the series.
I notice when they adjust their jocks
The team is losing, and they should adjust simply by scoring more points. I don’t know why more coaches don’t do it.
convince me that bud is a good coach. he went and stunk it up in phoenix too
The bottom line is no one on here knows what the fuck coaches actually do.
Everyone on our sub said the same thing about Bud, and Vogel. And now they’re saying it about Ott whenever we lose
He’s a good coach but he’s not a great playoff coach. He’s great for setting a high floor if that’s what you’re looking for.
Reminds me of Thibs tbh. Always thought he had a very set type of play style and system that was a high floor. Issues arise when he needs to adjust in a short series similar to why we let Thibs go in a the end.
Thibs deserved a final season with us. He got us farther than any coach since ‘00
Bud isn’t a bad coach at all and Im tired of MIL fans thinking that firing him was a good move.
It wasn’t. Clearly it wasn’t. Not then, and definitely not now.
And I hate how these teams treat coaches too.
Then Bud goes to PHX and has to deal with that toxic mess and poor roster construction…. And guess what? Scapegoated again. But hold up, let me guess… he had bad rotations and didn’t make adjustments?….
Didn’t they fire Budenholzer like the week after his brother died or something?
His brother died during the Miami series, and yeah he was fired not long after we lost.
If I never hear about Giannis, his career plans, or his desires again it will still be too soon.
So get a coach that puts lineups together based on merit, not on family connections?
Can’t they give his brothers office jobs instead of taking up roster spots?
Yeah imagine Giannis with Coach Bud that’d be scary
I mean he’s currently not coaching, so he can literally have Mike Budenholzer
Bruh you guys had Budenholzer lmfao
😂😂😂😂lmao
Us being thrown in here is so weird lmao
I don’t understand it and no one seems to care. Genuinely need this explained to me
Darko is a great culture setter and locker room guy, doesn’t seem that confusing.
Maybe they can get a Jason Kidd type coach.
And pair him with a Nico type GM…
Guannis for a bag of skittles. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
HIT ME!
Why can’t the leader set the culture?
Giannis to Bud: “He’s such a great coach. If only I could find a coach like him.“
Bud: “I’m literally the coach in the pic.“
Bet he probably wants a Jrue Holiday type of teammate too
giannis is a fraud
Remind me why a players opinion matters here? Didn’t Giannis veto Nick Nurse?
Players are ass at these kinds of things. Fired Kenny Atkinson to bring in Steve Nash. Why do ppl trust players opinions here?
If only there was a coach like that who was already run outta town by the star player
Honestly a slap in the face for Coach Budz
This cant be real lol
Giannis is looking to leave fuck the new coach😂
The same coach they fired?
Why would Milwaukee care? Just trade his ass. He doesn’t have a no trade clause
This dude needs a therapist
This gotta be a joke right?
The fact they got rid of Bud to hire Griffin (unknown quantity and had the team on 30-13 record at the time) and Rivers (needs overwhelming amount of talent cuz he has 0 coachability)
Time to bring in Rick Moranis as Danny O’Shea
Could have had that guy, wonder what happened to him.
Giannis is looking for the coach they ran off?
Post ring Bucks needs to be studied and made into a documentary.
They should’ve never let go of Bud and yes, I’ve always felt this way. We exist!
It’s not going to be happen, but imagine if the Pelicans hired Budenholzer and then traded for Giannis. They do control the Bucks’ 2027 first rounder (as the better of the two firsts).
Actually, they have all their firsts in 2028 and beyond. They’ve got expiring contracts and plenty of talent.
Almost like they shouldn’t have fired him over a first round playoff loss against a team that turned out to be on an all time heater, while your star wasn’t healthy and your coach had just lost his dad.
Bud type coach but not Bud?
Yeah just hire a young coach, ficus on player development and trade Giannis already!
Irony.
But Milwaukee has a style
Giannis and inshallah
Should have kept Griffin atleast the first year…
That’s so funny he said that. Knew exactly what he was doing. Bobby’s not stupid lmao.
Culture isn’t just the coach. It starts with the best player too
Then maybe don’t get Bud fired 🙄
i dont like how you can clearly hear them talking while hes giving his answer, thats disrespect
If only the bucks had a coach like that who led them to a great season and was fired for no reason
But they’re “not Hollywood” right?
They probably need a Kurt Rambis type of coach.
That’s Mitch Johnson’s music!!
I thought “culture” meant something else when the Bucks hired their coaches since Bud
The jokes write themselves
Giannis is going to Miami, the culture and ambition are there. They’re tired of the play-in and I don’t see them rebuilding
Hire Tom Thibodeau
I don’t think I have ever seen an active teammate to the media and talk about a current player’s coaching preferences like this ever before
Mike budenholzer is the exact opposite of establishing a culture. He’s fucking awful and his coaching is out of date now
U can’t even get into the playoffs. FUCK OFF. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Awful compared to Adrian Griffin and Doc Rivers? Riiiiight.
Got shit on literally yesterday for saying they never should’ve fired him. It was stupid then, it’s stupid now, and anyone saying it was a good decision is coping so hard that you cannot convince them otherwise.
But didn’t Giannis have a large say on both Griffin and Doc coming?
Are you forgetting something, Bobby?
Bro, you had a style of play, a culture:
Random. And you threw it away.
Hard to play those types of systems when your best player is crying every night and getting his brothers contracts.
Is Don Nelson still alive and if so does he still have all his fish ties?
Bro why does he look normal here and cracked out mid game 😂
He’ll get Thibs & he’ll like it.
What is bud doing right now I wonder