AceMcStace | Trail Blazers

223 | 5 hours ago

Not saying bub is a world beater but how much of this the wizards throwing out horrendous rosters in order to tank?

Sharp-Selection-3541

158 | 5 hours ago

Anyone that looks at this stat and judges Bub Carrington doesnt understand +/-

Krillin113 | 76ers

63 | 4 hours ago

It’s the same shit as the guy on the grizz having -46 and people being shocked at how bad it is. Yeah he played 48 minutes with a 6 man rotation where literally everyone who played was on a 10 day contract and 1 dude on a two way.

They got clapped. He played every minute. Of course your +- is off

Sharp-Selection-3541

25 | 4 hours ago

There was a thread where a twam got blown out at 40 and a comment was asking “Wow I see ________ was a -36 tonight what did he do wrong????”

That comment always stuck out to me and I realized the average person has no clue wtf +/- is supposed to indicate

lemmegetauhhhhhhhhhh

4 | an hour ago

luckily you could also look at just about any other bub carrington stat and judge him based on that

Plus-Name3590 | Wizards

1 | an hour ago

So 3pt%?

Full-Anywhere-7883 | Washington Bullets

36 | 5 hours ago

it’s that, and the fact that he’s the one rookie/sophomore that has played every game at like 27-30 minutes per game clip. In both his first and second year he led us in minutes and games played.

So he gets a lot of lowlights and bad lineups that crush his stats/highlights.

But he’s been an ironman for us and works extremely hard at a position that is really teammate dependent, so maybe he is not a starter long term; but could easily end up being a very good 6th man or be ready to step up when he actually gets to play with actual NBA players full time.

drjisftw | Pacers

7 | 4 hours ago

Wizards really offloaded Deni Avdija for Bub Carrington lmao

DMking | Wizards

33 | 4 hours ago

And another first rounder but why are we acting like Deni is some world beater here

dillpickles007 | Hawks

-5 | 4 hours ago

Because he’s a 25 year old All NBA wing?

DMking | Wizards

15 | 4 hours ago

All NBA?

Sharp-Selection-3541

10 | 4 hours ago

Idk if he deserves it but with a the injuries and 65 game rule, deni might make a 3rd team

DMking | Wizards

7 | 4 hours ago

Considering Luke Ant and Cade might all miss he does have an outside shot but he absolutely would not get the nod sans the 65 game rule

Sharp-Selection-3541

6 | 4 hours ago

Agreed

drjisftw | Pacers

-10 | 4 hours ago

I don’t know about you but I’d rather have the All-Star that just averaged 24/7/7.

You can make the argument that Deni doesn’t take as huge of a leap if he stayed in Portland, but he was making notable improvements every year in Washington and had a career year prior to getting traded. He’s also young enough and on enough of a steal of a contract that he could’ve been part of the rebuild.

I appreciate the sincerity of the FO saying they wanted to really jumpstart the rebuild, but it’s still hard for me to take the Wizards seriously when they decided to do that after the draft with Wemby (and yes I’m aware of the FO change).

Also, the Trae and AD trades are a complete about face to rebuilding. I get the optimistic perspective of being able to buy-low on those guys and still have one final tanking year, but I think the bigger part of that was having ownership directing them to get out of the shitter.

DMking | Wizards

20 | 4 hours ago

If you’re aware of the FO change why do you have a problem with it? They have a different vision for the Wizards than Sheppard did and should work to enact that

drjisftw | Pacers

-11 | 4 hours ago

Because it’s fucking stupid to start tanking the year after the most talented draft prospect in a generation becomes available.

DMking | Wizards

17 | 3 hours ago

Our current FO controlled none of that are you fucking daft

Peyyton07 | Wizards

13 | 3 hours ago

That’s not the new front offices fault. They were hired before the Wemby draft but after the regular season had already ended.

Plus-Name3590 | Wizards

13 | 3 hours ago

Why did our FO not simply time travel

Randvek | Trail Blazers

10 | 3 hours ago

You call yourselves “Wizards” yet you refuse to bend the rules of time and space? Total frauds.

DMking | Wizards

2 | 2 hours ago

You mess with the natural order and you get the Wizard Police set on you

drjisftw | Pacers

-5 | 3 hours ago

I get that the previous FO was trying to save their hide by holding onto Beal but doesn’t that make you angry as a Wizards fan?

Plus-Name3590 | Wizards

8 | 3 hours ago

I mean the old FO was inept. No use crying over spilt milk. We’ve got a cohesive plan and destination.

No-Independence-5479 | Washington Bullets

9 | 3 hours ago

Yeah but then youre stuck with deni’s fans too.

CP10WJ

1 | 3 hours ago

Don’t forget Deni was also on a great contract!

Darkblade511 | Wizards

-9 | 4 hours ago

Portland is already desperate to get off of him.

AceMcStace | Trail Blazers

7 | 4 hours ago

Lmao no we’re not what kind of idiotic fanfic is this

Darkblade511 | Wizards

-6 | 4 hours ago

Its a pretty known thing in the Blazers fan base? Are you a new fan?

AceMcStace | Trail Blazers

8 | 3 hours ago

That we want to get rid of Deni, the best contract in the NBA who is 25, just posted a season of 24-7-7, made the all star game and has a shot at All NBA. That Deni? Are you sure you’re not hallucinating?

I’ve been a season ticket holder for 19 years kid you have absolutely no clue what you’re talking about lmfao.

Darkblade511 | Wizards

-4 | 3 hours ago

The contract doesn’t matter really. Inefficient foul baiter, who while is a good defender, can’t or won’t defend while foul baiting (partially due to exhaustion.) The funny thing is if he stopped his foul baiting and shot chucking, he’d be a better player. Anyway I need them not to call the playoff whistle tonight, need a Suns loss.

AceMcStace | Trail Blazers

7 | 3 hours ago

lol so you just completely made up Portland & the fanbase “desperate” to get rid of him then because you personally don’t like the guy, got it.

GriffinQ | WAS

2 | an hour ago

Dude what the fuck are you talking about?

The Wizards fanbase was generally not upset to be done with Deni (and his fans). The Blazers fanbase thus far absolutely loves the guy (for good reason).

You’re just making up schizo shit

AceMcStace | Trail Blazers

15 | 4 hours ago

Well yes that is another wrinkle to this entire thing lol

lactoseintolerants | Wizards

4 | 3 hours ago

Id make that trade over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.

early2000slondon

1 | 43 minutes ago

the number one option with a full green light vs a 20 year old

ddiop | CLE

1 | an hour ago

It’s a massive part, there might be only a handful of players who could stay positive with his roster, but the Wizards are better by a pretty big difference with him on and off (-15.2 to -7), and his boxscore impact is pretty bad. 250th out of 262 in PER for players to play 2000 minutes over the past two seasons.

But, he’s super young and winning doesn’t matter to the Wizards, so we’ll see. Basically every other young Wizard guy seems more promising to me.

Plus-Name3590 | Wizards

1 | an hour ago

It’s also another case of the stats being misleading too because he’s often put out of position and into bad matchups. I think for like 5-10 minutes of the Bam Adebayo 83 point game it was Bub guarding Bam which is just a terrible matchup to try to win, so it’s inherently going to create bad +-

GGTae | Spurs

203 | 5 hours ago

thankfully it’s a career stat, he has a long one ahead of him knock on wood, he has been drafted in a org that started to tank so it makes sense

cl353 | Heat

58 | 3 hours ago

i saw somewhere that mathew stafford just got to .500 for his career w/l record and thats an mvp and super bowl champion lol. being stuck on bad teams is the worst

Dreamlion_Inc | Wizards

36 | 4 hours ago

The guy just finished 2 years on an obviously tanking team and just played with guys who will be around the G-league for life these past 2 months

The +- means nothing here

aLogicalHumanBeing

21 | 4 hours ago

This is a wizards stat

DMking | Wizards

25 | 4 hours ago

I mean he’s played all 82 games both seasons on a tanking team. I’m not sure what you’re expecting to see here

nowhathappenedwas | NBA

17 | 5 hours ago

Wow, dude has the worst rookie plus/minus in the PBP era and the second worst sophomore plus/minus.

Worst plus/minus through two seasons, which includes some excellent shooters (Bub is one of the better jump shooters in the league, despite his inability to do anything else positive):

Rk	Player	+/-	From	To	MP
1	Bub Carrington	-1544	2024-25	2025-26	4728
2	Kevin Durant	-1156	2007-08	2008-09	5656
3	Elton Brand	-1111	1999-00	2000-01	5904
4	Collin Sexton	-1069	2018-19	2019-20	4750
5	Shareef Abdur-Rahim	-1029	1996-97	1997-98	5754
6	Bilal Coulibaly	-1005	2023-24	2024-25	3665
7	Michael Olowokandi	-986	1998-99	1999-00	3773
8	Jaden Ivey	-981	2022-23	2023-24	4522
9	Al Thornton	-970	2007-08	2008-09	4820
10	Kemba Walker	-969	2011-12	2012-13	4647
11	Jalen Green	-966	2021-22	2022-23	4741
12	Josh Jackson	-960	2017-18	2018-19	3951
13	Jeff Green	-918	2007-08	2008-09	5122
14	DAngelo Russell	-906	2015-16	2016-17	4071
15	Alex Sarr	-898	2024-25	2025-26	3122
16	Nerlens Noel	-893	2014-15	2015-16	4274
17	Keyonte George	-887	2023-24	2024-25	4131
18	Trenton Hassell	-884	2001-02	2002-03	4235
19	Jordan Clarkson	-869	2014-15	2015-16	4030
20	Isaiah Collier	-846	2024-25	2025-26	3356

Provided by Stathead: Found with Stathead. See Full Results. Generated 4/14/2026.

Appearances from Coulibaly and Sarr…

Elderlyat30

53 | 4 hours ago

If Kevin Durant is the second worst on this list, it must not be any real indication of personal success. This includes a Rookie of the Year award winner. Kinda won’t look at plus/minus the same. It relies too heavily on needing to see how the rest of the team performs in a given game. It is also necessary to consider team record when looking at longitudinal data.

nowhathappenedwas | NBA

21 | 4 hours ago

You also generally don’t play enough minutes to rack up these numbers if you’re not a very good prospect.

SpicyMustard34 | Cavaliers

2 | an hour ago

half the guys on the list have had long and prosperous careers.

ObviousAnswerGuy | NYK

1 | 16 minutes ago

+/- is an absolutely terrible stat in many cases, but especially with tanking teams

BoomBoomSpaceRocket | 76ers

9 | 4 hours ago

So it’s basically the “young player that immediately got minutes on a team that isn’t finished tanking” stat. It’ll change soon. I actually think the Wizards are in a great position to start competing in a few years, especially if they get some draft luck this year.

Haunting-Soup2086

7 | 4 hours ago

KD at number 2 is actually wild.

PrimeTimeInc | Hornets

6 | 4 hours ago

Shoutout Kemba on the 7 win bobcats 😭

CMYGQZ | Grizzlies

3 | 4 hours ago

couldve climbed a few spots with a 82 game season as well.

ravaille | Wizards

5 | 3 hours ago

He’s on a tanking team. Idk what people expect.

DontBlameConan | Knicks

2 | 3 hours ago

This post got me reminiscing about Shareef Abdur-Raheem. Solid player who just played for bad teams. I enjoyed watching him on the Vancouver Grizzlies.

I also found out today that he is currently the President of the G-League.

kridddlo | Lakers

2 | 3 hours ago

i know i’m a full unc as i watch a ton of lakers basketball and whatever is on tv, but never in my life have i heard of “bub carrington”

xbhaskarx | Spurs

3 | 2 hours ago

+/- is close to meaningless for a second year player on a terrible team that’s actively tanking.

Not so for Shareef Abdur-Rahim, LaVine, Sexton, Jerami Grant, Bismack Biyombo, Jeff Green, etc.

glidejanger

1 | 20 minutes ago

Crazy stat for someone Top 25 in shooting

ObviousAnswerGuy | NYK

1 | 17 minutes ago

dumb post. They are the worst team in the league, and put out G-league lineups, of course his +/- gonna suck

WatTambor420

-2 | 3 hours ago

The tank commander! The guy had never seen a basketball until the very first wizards game- it was an amazing experience!

discussionandrespect | Knicks

-4 | 3 hours ago

He’s a terrible player

Snoopdoge857192

1 | 25 minutes ago

Definitely not terrible. One of the best 3 point shooters in the league with a good midrange to go with that. He definitely needs work on attacking the basket, and his defense but he’s a solid NBA player.

Liad3008

-6 | 4 hours ago

Do Wizards fans still convince themselves to like the Deni trade?

Joshstradaymus | Wizards

16 | 4 hours ago

Yes because we needed to not be closer to the middle we needed to be closer to the bottom

drjisftw | Pacers

-2 | 4 hours ago

And now you all are trying to get back into the middle with Trae and AD.

DMking | Wizards

11 | 4 hours ago

Yes you bottom out and hope the players you draft and develop can take you to the top but before getting to the top you have to get to the middle. This is how rebuilds work more or less the path the Pistons took with Cade

Joshstradaymus | Wizards

3 | 3 hours ago

It’s not with Trae and AD, it’s with them, and Sarr who has shown he can play, and Kyshawn George who has shown he can play, and a top 5 pick coming up, and some diamond in the rough players.

DMking | Wizards

7 | 4 hours ago

Yes because Deni would just keep us in the play ins at best. Not like we traded Luka or something

Darkblade511 | Wizards

5 | 4 hours ago

Portland will be a play-in team untill they trade/let Deni walk. I pray for whatever team gives him the max in 3 years.

Bub Carrington is -1544 for his career, the 20th worst in the 30 seasons plus-minus has been tracked.