Frankly I agree. I think one important thing that many like to overlook with Kon is that he’s catching and shooting DIMES. He’s not a self creator. He’s not a passer-playmaker. He’s not a defender. He’s an okay rebounder. I think he has Klay-lite career trajectory. Hornets are a pretty balanced offense with two 20ppg scorers leading the way for Kon, and LaMelo is quite the crafty and swift passer. They’re a solid team. Cooper has a shit roster and is entirely self creating everything for himself and others and is decimating Kon in the counting stats while having a FG% a mere 0.9% lower than Kon. Kon’s efficiency and three point volume is nice but it’s a product of his situation. He’s not creating. He’s a role player. Cooper is showing unreal potential. He’s the ROTY by a landslide

Terrible take , Mavs suck and acknowledged they suck and are tanking pretty early into the season. If you actually “just watch”, you’ll see it’s been about feeding cooper and helping him break out. He has the ball all the time and alot of the plays are drawn through him.

Kon is putting up 18-20ppg whilst having 3 different players on his team also averaging 18-20ppg. Meaning there’s more on Kon’s plate. Sure cooper would be balling out for the hornets and they would be even better. But Kon will be averaging over 20-23PPG on the Mavs rn.

Recency bias is a real thing , Kon was running away with the award until he slowed down and cooper started putting up numbers beyond expectations.

Kon has contributed around twice as much to winning as Flagg according to all the advanced stats. Yeah that’s most because of shooting - so what? Is ROY for “probably the best player over his career” or “rookie with the best overall season”? If it’s the latter then it clearly should be Kon.

“spooky” scary

Boys becoming men

See the ‘shit team’ portion of my statement.

Most teams have more than 4 players with more than 1500 minutes played. Flagg (2334), Max Christie (2232) and Naji Marshall (2184) are the only Mavs over 1750.

There is no reason Flagg shouldn’t be leading them in most stat categories.

Like LeBron said “the day coop was born, I woke up and told my teammates he was gonna be a no. 1 pick” /s

There was a game earlier in the season against the Pistons and Coop legitimately looked like one of the best, if not THE best player on the floor that night and won the Mavs that game.

We don’t , the word gets thrown around loosely alot but we don’t.

It’s just been 2 players in also back to back drafts so it sounds like it has been. But it’s really just Wemby and Cooper then yearssss back to Curry & LeBron

Nobody was saying Risacher was a generational player.

I completely agree. Celtics with JB are obviously a better team no amount of advanced stats can convince me otherwise, there is a similar stat with Alperen Sengun this year, advanced stats shows they are “better” without him on the court but there are so many variable stats can affect that that sometimes you just need to trust your eye.

Like for example a guard can shoot 0/10 from open threes with JB or Sengun on the court and as soon as they are off the court, they can shoot the same threes but this time hit them and that somehow that affects other players +/-

When people critize Flagg’s efficiency, or VORP, they don’t take into consideration that the guy doesnt have a single reliable on ball creator or another star that can take pressure off of him

Like for example, there are advanced stats that show that the Celtics are better this season when Jaylen Brown is off the court. That’s just insane, and obviously not a correct picture.

You need context to interpret stats correctly, can’t just use bigger number = better. On/off is lineup dependent, the Celtics have had a run of the best bench in the league by +/- for like a decade now, so they’re +11 in minutes where JB sits against other teams’ 2nd units. That’d be an outlier for basically any other team.

Statistics don’t lie, but you can lie with statistics. JB’s numbers aren’t a mistake. They’re telling you something about how on/off functions that lets you use it more effectively when judging everyone else.

Celtics are 200% a good team even without JB

Yep, when the inevitable re-draft is talked about several years down the road I think Harper is still going to be #2. We’re just guard-heavy and he didn’t get as many minutes as he would have on any other team.

Since the All-Star break he’s shooting 58.4% overall and 49% from 3. He’s quickly becoming an elite rim-finisher and looks incredibly polished for a rookie.

And Carter Bryant has also really come into his own since the ASG as well, he may end up being the steal of this draft class at the 14th pick.

Yeah, it all went according to plan…trade away Luka and then win a lottery with terrible odds. Until it comes out that he helped rig the lottery, he gets zero credit for flagg. 

AD is injured, but they still salary-dumped him to the Wizards.

They could all be on the court right now tho. Dallas saw to it that they weren’t

next years class is 2027, which is supposed to be a weak draft class.