Wemby with 1866

To be fair, the purpose of the rule is to get the players to play in games so the fans will watch. I don’t really care if the game I watch has 40m of Kawhi or 32m of Kawhi.

The system was designed so that teams wouldn’t sit players; so it is working as expected. People go home happy if they see 20 minutes of a visiting star player, and this is the goal of the rule.

Steph didn’t play a lot of 4th quarters for a few seasons.

Should a player be penalized because the team was beating down the other so badly?

Please stop capitalizing every single word in a 30 word title lol

Well, that’s because the threshold is games played, not minutes, so…….yeah. Yep. Correct.

Seems like if they wanna keep the rule they should adjust it so if someone plays 2000 minutes they should automatically be eligible.

Well how many minutes you played in past games dont matter to fans who showed up for todays game. If you’re on the court for 20 mins it doesnt matter at least the fan got to see you

Sometimes life ain’t fair and it is what it is. Literally 0 people except Luka, his family, and his agent have any reason to legitimately care if he makes first team or not.

I understand why players care about awards but I don’t understand why fans are so invested. Whoever wins extra accolades changes nothing about my life. There only thing that truly matters is the NBA cup.

Why is it about minutes now? I thought the issue was players missing GAMES? Some favorable stars are affected now the problem is minutes played instead of GAMES missed lol.

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I see so many people in the comment saying this shouldn’t be tied to players’salary, but why not? Fans who buy tickets and merch are the ones who pay for the salaries. If these fans don’t get to watch the players, then why should they be paid more?

More than that, why does it matter at all as a fan? I’m a Wemby fan, but I don’t give a shit if Wemby makes 300M or 250M in his career. That’s still generational wealth regardless.

Load management doesnt mean you have to sit out games completely.

Play more games and adjust minutes played to minimize wear and tear.

Why use many minute when few do trick

Minutes played people really are the most pathetic losers when it comes to awards discussions. You’re all for the minutes requirement until a player stays in a blowout and gets injured, then you’ll move onto something else to complain about. 

Counterpoint: games played counts more than minutes (to a point). Kawhi and Wemby have effected more games, because they play just enough to run up the score then sit the fourth. All minutes are not the same.

I get the Wemby with 1866 minutes thing but the whole point of the 65 game thing is so that fans who pay a lot of money to go to the games can actually see the stars play. Yeah Wemby might only play 30 minutes but you’re still seeing him suit up and play. I can’t afford 100 dollar tickets regularly but when I do go, I want to see the stars. Maybe playing stars under 35 minutes a night should become a regular thing for players’ longevity too. Puts more emphasis on developing a good bench too

Which begs the question of why don’t teams just place their stars less minutes if wear and tear in this era is such a problem? I feel like that never gets brought up as a solution, as if they’re forced to play their best players 36+ mins

lol I saw lots of people suggest 2000 minutes until Kawhi passed that mark… now it’s 2100?

Besides, Kawhi will likely pass that mark after Clippers next game.

“Play smarter, not harder” - Kawhi

Sucks bro. Maybe play more games next time

Luka camps out on defense. He could literally play all 48 minutes of the game. I think he should be eliminated from contention every season he has less than 65 x 48 minutes played.

It seems fair to me and also fair for the fans.

Can’t believe a non-basketball stat like “happy fans per season” is considered. So stupid.

Wemby gave fans and the owners 65 chances to cash in on his production, he also drops 30-40 bombs while playing less than 35 minutes, and defending the entire key and more.

What exactly does minutes played here proof? He entertains, he dominates, and he shows up so your tickets have worth, i really dont see the issue both financially nor sports wise for Wemby.

If I’m paying good money for tickets, I would rather have an 80% chance to see my favorite player play 24 minutes with high impact than a 65% chance to see a player play 36 minutes with about the same impact. And that is the point of this rule.

It’s amazing seeing the same “minutes over games” posts every single day. Do yall really not “get” why they went with a game minimum?

Nothing r/nba hates more than FANS actually attending games wanting to see star players play.

Maybe it should be a 2000 minutes rule

Seems pretty obvious that for fans buying tickets it’s better to have a player play a certain amount of games. Also seems obvious that coaches need to adjust and instead of playing their superstars for the whole game get into their depth in the regular season. This seems like a win-win to me fans get to see their players and basketball turns back into a team sport. Also lesser mins should help with wear and tear

You mean the rule is hurting my favorite players and not just Kawhi and Joel? I hate it now >:(

You Don’t Have To Write Titles Like This.

This isn’t grade school

These minutes counts seem interesting, making it seem that minutes played could be the marker for award, (65 games x 20 minutes = 1300 minutes). Though I think there should be still some rule for minimum games played.

It does not sound like the heads of NBA will relent on 65-game rule, but I do wonder if easing to reaching 60 games or 1800 minutes (equivalent of 30 minutes for 60 games) as an ‘either-or’ qualifier would make it more fair.

Edit: From other posts, I can see how players could be clever about minutes played, and likely the qualifier for awards would be better as minimum games AND minimum minutes (I like 60 and 1800 minutes with the eye tests for Luka, Shai, Kawhi, and Wemby should receive NBA awards this season).

Gotta manage that load

I support needing to meet a games played OR minutes played threshold absolutely.

I thought Cade was good once he came back?

It’s a weird world we live in where players that play more don’t qualify and players that play less do.

The rule isn’t about making sure the right players to win the awards. It is about getting players to play more games. It is saying, “You lazy ass bums pretending like you can’t play. Get your lazy ass in the game.” Because surely the league ISN’T SAYING the players NEED the rest but they should play anyway. No no no, the league IS SAYING they DON’T need the rest, so they should play. Yes, that’s right, the league is telling us fans that we should watch the product that the stars don’t want to participate in because they are lazy bums.

So minutes don’t matter for the purpose of the rule.

rules are rules, adjust it next season if it doesn’t work, but if we’re bending rules every time it doesn’t fit narratively then why have them. its a trial and error process and if that affects legacy then that’s on the fans, if it affects money… i dont really care this level of stars are loaded enough

2100 is way too low, make it 2500 at least.

Too bad

2137 😉

Eh I don’t see an issue.  It’s about games played not minutes per game.  If a top player can impact a game enough to win and blow teams out in domination fashion without playing 30+ minutes, then good on them.  The important part is that they were available for 80% of the season and gave paying fans what they wabnted to see.

If Luka had led his team to an average point differential of +8, he would have played a lot less minutes.  There’s a reason the guy on the better team, with a better record plays less minutes…..he’s more impactful and a bigger difference maker in the minutes he plays.

Working as intended, honestly.

Cause Kawhi understood the assignment

When can we all admit that these end of season awards are meaningless. People give way too much value to these awards, particularly the MVP award.

People buy tickets to games, not minutes. That’s what the league cares about.

Book would be right above Ant and he’s gonna not be eligible either, just sitting out these last games instead of trying to get some sort of exception for the game he played 8 mins in and got hurt

You minutes people really need to get the hell out

The crying never ends, they ain’t changing this shit

That’s some bullshit

So?

Why we gotta make this about Kawhi

It does not make more sense. The 65 game rule is intended to reduce the variance in fan experience when they buy a ticket. 

It’s not supposed to be about forcing players to play 40 minutes a game or something. It’s intended to incentive star players to consistently play in more games so fans can reliably anticipate seeing their favorite player when they buy tickets. 

If you want to say you don’t like it, or that 65 games is not the right number, or that the right answer is reducing the total number of games or whatever else go ahead, but reframing it as a total minutes played problem is fundamentally misunderstanding the problem the policy attempts to solve. 

Wouldn’t mind the minutes addition.

They might adjust it in the future into something like 65 games OR 2000 minutes played.

So you guys stop crying about it.

The mkre threads like this come out the more I believe that fans cared nothing about “integrity” or players health.

They just didnt wanna see guys like Embiid or Kawhi receive awards because they bought into the narrative of then being scammers instead of injury prone players taking care of themselves.

Bad idea. This allows players to play 36 minutes for 55 games to qualify. 36 minutes is pretty normal for stars, and I bet some will stay in every game a few minutes longer because of this rule, so this is essentially lowering the bar to 55 games. Heck, maxey this year would need only 52 games played to qualify. That’s missing 37% of the season.

Are these just bot posts now?

When did we really give af about these rewards

THIS is what Wemby’s post game (last night) interview was about …

IMO 65 is too high it should be 60 and minutes played should also be considered especially if a player is logging heavy minutes but misses the 65 by a game or two ….tweeks needed

With it all the discourse it seems like the rule should just be changed from Games Played to Minutes Played, yeah?

82 Games a year, 48 minutes, so that’s 3936 minutes. Most guys dont play all 48 obviously, so maybe cap it at like 2000? 2200?

I have said from the beginning it should not be a games played threshold, it should be minutes

Kawhi is going to be banned from the league for a year. Stop talking about Kawhi. He’s a bitch and deserves no awards or recognition.