[Lowlight] Curry makes a 3, disallowed because of an intentional foul. Later, he jumps into a defender unnaturally, for 3 free throws. The wrong style of play is rewarded by the officials.
The 3 disallowed is obviously correctly disallowed tho. The foul is objectively before his shot motion. The officials called it correctly.
And then he does the classic pump fake grift thing with no attempt to actually make the shot (that everybody does to be clear, not a knock on him). Yeah, hate that they reward that. I swear a few years ago they said they weren’t gonna call that a foul anymore and gave up on that after a few weeks or some shit.
Is it correctly disallowed? I would normally argue yes - but with the context that if he would just have thrown the ball towards the vincinity of the basket instead of actually making a good shot then he would have been rewarded with 3 free throws.
Being able to touch a shooter on the arm without even trying to go for the ball in order to force an inbound instead of an open 3 is bad basketball. And its whats encouraging all these “pump fake and jump into the defender”-style plays that everyone hates.
Yes, to your question. The rest of your comment seems concerned with whether it ought to be. Not the discretion of officials.
You think it should be at discretion of officials?
Sure. But the reason they started cracking down on that rule is because players were hearing a whistle and then throwing up a crazy “shot.” Not this.
He made a basketball play the first time, but would have been better off jumping weirdly into him both times.
This is very good example of the problem.
How do you fix this?
Not sure, off the top of my head it would be by making the “jump into the defender for contact and chuck the ball”-move an offensive foul instead of a defensive foul. But that could result in some other bad thing i didnt think of.
Maybe an intentional foul on an open player should always result in FTs even if they are not in the shooting motion?
jump into the defender for contact and chuck the ball
Didn’t they literally make this a foul a year or two ago? They just don’t call it lol
The leg whip is. This isn’t though - the player has a right to that space for shooting and landing and when he shoots the defender isn’t in a legal guarding position.
I think it’s idiotic too and there should just be discretion from the refs written into the rule.
Yeah, Tatum has been doing this and it drives me nuts even though it works. Any unnatural shooting motion to draw a foul should be offensive, especially if you’re jumping forward three feet.
Even in this case where he jumps sideways into the defender? That’s lame.
It has to do with the shooter being entitled to have space to land, for safety reasons.
It would be hard to write a concrete rule about this, but it’s the rare case where everyone knows it when they see it.
Honestly, the whole jumping into the defender thing should really be an offensive foul overall in my opinion. Same with the “swipe through” that offensive players do where there’s clearly no real attempt at a shot but instead they’re intentionally trying to initiate contact with the defender.
Both are examples of how the league is overly biased towards offense (for money and marketing reasons, not integrity-based ones) and secretly tries to punish defenders for getting close enough to actually defend or change the shot. It’s why I don’t take the gaudy offensive numbers of this era as seriously as some others do. You can clearly see the league is kind of rigged in a way where defenders can’t actually defend as effectively as they could be able to in a truly competition-focused (rather than money focused) league. Because the league wants more “viral highlights”, more “superstars”, etc.
How else will the league give free throws to superstars and keep their scoring avgs high?
I hate whenever Reggie Miller goes “you got to be smart with your foul. You dont want to foul in the act of shooting at 3.” They never ever call it in the act even though it is. This is why it is always the correct call to foul if youre up 3. Its a joke
I recall a foul up 3 and becoming 3ft. It’s not never
Officials eyes are seeing the act late. As in they are often only seeing the reaction, or we often call it Acting. They aren’t seeing the initial action.
We see it on the cameras and on the replays if we didn’t entirely notice it live. But one thing people rarely realize about themselves is as we age our eyes get slower. This is a real thing. Most of us are not educated about this and aren’t aware of it once it starts happening.
In sports, players probably don’t realize it isn’t their age alone as much as their eyes. How can your hand/eye coordination keep up if your eyes are now slower? Apparently it can be trained, improved, if it isn’t already too far gone. So I’ve heard anyway. Maybe the Officials of these higher leagues need to have this kind of training due to the speed at which these players are pulling off these acts.
I don’t see a problem with the second part, honestly. Don’t jump on the pump fake, and don’t jump forward, especially.
Unless you’re driving in the paint for a layup/dunk, jumping into a defender like a cannon ball should always be an offensive foul. Sorry but that’s not a natural shooting motion.
They need to set a hard rule about jumping into defenders. Luka does it. Shai does it. And it’s beyond frustrating. Like they’ll be crashing the basket then jump completely to the side while shooting and bump into someone that was hardly contesting.
2 open 3s where he decides to grift instead. One that goes his way and one that doesn’t. Hard to feel bad for him. Easy to feel bad for the game.