Bill_Sandwich | Pacers

93 | 4 hours ago

The injury list for the pacers reads like the starting lineup of a playoff team, so I’m thinking things will get weird.

thunderdl | Thunder

37 | 3 hours ago

a finals team, some would say

Bill_Sandwich | Pacers

15 | 3 hours ago

A finals team + Zubac 😬

thunderdl | Thunder

7 | 3 hours ago

-myles turner too

Disastrous-Special30 | Pacers

8 | 2 hours ago

Even better

Funny-Transition7869 | Pacers

6 | 2 hours ago

myles before ecf that season was pretty good

Sharcbait | Timberwolves

3 | 3 hours ago

Honest question… say you land a top pick, does someone get ousted from the team to make room for the rookie? Or are you thinking the plan will be a super sub?

I think the rumor of Boozer has a lot of teams picking up the phone to see how much Nesmith or Siakam would realistically cost to trade for.

Bill_Sandwich | Pacers

10 | 3 hours ago

I don’t think they trade anybody else before next year. The Zubac deal was the big one. Whoever they get will just come along for the ride. I wouldn’t mind them shipping Jarace Walker somewhere though…

beefJeRKy-LB | Lebanon

3 | 3 hours ago

You already punted on the Mathurin decision so yeah I can see you moving Walker if you don’t wanna deal with his RFA

Remmarg25 | Pacers

5 | 2 hours ago

I imagine whoever the Pacers picked would start off with the second unit where they could get 25-30 minutes a night and relatively be the first/second option for a decent chunk of those minutes.

Siakam is too good to move if they want to compete and Nembhard/Nesmith are perfect pieces next to Haliburton. I don’t see them moving on from the Finals starters with Zubac replacing Turner.

Guys like Walker/Sheppard could be moved this offseason, perhaps Obi as well if they got Boozer, but I think that’s about it should they keep their pick. Though Pacers history says they won’t.

MindofShadow | Pacers

2 | 34 minutes ago

If it’s boozer, he’s gonna take obis job.

If it’s the other two, then they are taking Mathurin old role

kpapazyan47 | Pacers

1 | an hour ago

Whoever we pick is coming off the bench. Neither Nesmith nor Nemby will lose their starting spot, at least not to start the year.

_Thanks-Obama_ | Raptors

46 | 4 hours ago

The lottery odds are the same from 1-3 and the Pacers only keep their pick if it’s top 4. 2 vs 3 has no impact on them at all.

Odd_Firefighter_5407

29 | 4 hours ago

It’s vitally important the Nets lose this game.

a_moniker | Hornets

15 | 4 hours ago

They’re just tanking for the love of the game 😅

MyTeamsSuck99

7 | 4 hours ago

The pacers can still finish 5th in lotto odds.

Fishyblue11 | Nets

7 | 3 hours ago

The worst the pacers can do is a three or four way tie for 2-5 or 3-5, they can’t actually get to sole odds for 4th or 5th

The kings and jazz already have 21 wins, the highest record the pacers can achieve is 21 wins, they cannot win more games than the kings or jazz anymore

MyTeamsSuck99

2 | 3 hours ago

you’re right, I didn’t realize the odds get split, the only tiebreaker aspect is who gets on more combinattion.

The funniest outcome I guess is a 4 way tie at 2nd odds between the pacers, kings, jazz and nets.

But a tie at any of those spots would theoretically drop their top 4 odds, so they would still want to avoid it.

Fishyblue11 | Nets

3 | 3 hours ago

As long as the pacers lose one of their last 3 games, that guarantees they finish with a worse record than the kings and jazz, meaning odds no longer matter to them, since it won’t matter to them if they’re 2nd or 3rd or tied for 2nd/3rd

MyTeamsSuck99

1 | 2 hours ago

Yes but they aren’t locked into top 3 yet. They need one more loss.

HeyItsChase | Pacers

6 | 4 hours ago

Yup. We just keep our eyes on the Kings. Theyre our true north. Stay below them and all is fine.

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yosephwu | Wizards

2 | 4 hours ago

Pacers lose their pick if it’s 5-9 so there’s no incentive for them to lose once they secure top 3 odds.

milkandminnows | Nets

-2 | 4 hours ago

That’s not how the lottery works. If they had the third best odds, their pick could still fall to 7. https://www.tankathon.com/pick_odds

axnjxn00 | Magic

3 | 4 hours ago

read your link. the odds of staying in the top 4 do not change for the pacers if they are 1, 2 or 3. they are 47.9% to drop out of the top 4 in each position

VladimirPutain1 | Timberwolves

1 | 4 hours ago

Their pick goes to the Clippers if it’s 5-9

Repulsive_Tutor7750

1 | 4 hours ago

Pacers lose their pick after 4 so they are mostly worried about being bottom 3. As the bottom 3 teams all have a 52% chance of picking 1-4.

Now I’m sure they are interested in increased odds at #1 pick but that pales in comparison to losing the pick entirely to the Clippers.

axnjxn00 | Magic

2 | 4 hours ago

there is no increase in getting the #1 pick either

Repulsive_Tutor7750

1 | 3 hours ago

oh crazy, then theres literally no incentive to be 1st vs 3rd worst team.

axnjxn00 | Magic

2 | 3 hours ago

not for the pacers, no.

joomla00

1 | an hour ago

Even when you’re trying to lose, you still want to try to win

mjy6478 | Nuggets

1 | 28 minutes ago

In the worst case scenario of 3 teams leapfrogging into the top 3. The worst record gets the 4th pick, and the 2nd worst record (currently the Pacers) get the 5th. If two teams leapfrog, than these teams get the third and fourth respectively. If the Pacers “fall” to the third worst record in this very likely scenario , they would get the 5th pick and lose their pick instead of keeping it at 4.

lastfollower | UTA

1 | 16 minutes ago

But the lottery is for the top 4 picks, not just the top 3. Their odds of getting into the top 4 is the same whether they’re 2nd or 3rd worst. The difference is that if 4 teams below them jump into the top 4, they would pick 6th if they were 2nd worst and 7th if they were 3rd worst. Since they lose the pick if it’s 5-9, all that matters is their lottery odds, not the guaranteed floor.

milkandminnows | Nets

-2 | 4 hours ago

This is false. https://www.tankathon.com/pick_odds

Edit: see below, I’m a dumbass

_Thanks-Obama_ | Raptors

4 | 4 hours ago

Did you read the link you sent me? Look at the odds of finishing top 4 for 2nd and 3rd. Anything after that doesn’t matter to the Pacers since the pick goes to LAC either way.

milkandminnows | Nets

4 | 4 hours ago

Fuck, you right, I thought it was top 5 protected for some reason. My bad!

Thehelloman0 | Spurs

3 | 3 hours ago

That trade could end up being really good for the pacers if they keep their pick but it’s basically a coin flip. Very similar to how the rockets got Jalen Green

HokageEzio | Knicks

1 | 3 hours ago

Yeah, it’s smart but risky. They kinda have to be as bad as possible just to avoid the worst case scenario of multiple teams jumping them.

Suspicious-Gur6127 | Pacers

1 | 3 hours ago

Top 4 vs Top 5 protections were probably the biggest sticking point for the trade I bet

MikeConleyIsLegend | Grizzlies

19 | 4 hours ago

Grizzlies/Jazz will be an incredible watch. Both teams desperately need to lose.

RathOfMan49 | Warriors

17 | 4 hours ago

Not even a Pacers fan, but I’d kinda enjoy seeing the Pacers win the lottery, get Hali back at full strength and challenge OKC and Wemby for the next 5 years as the East powerhouse

wpmason

8 | 4 hours ago

Thank you for such a reasonable take.

It would be nice for one of the most chronically unlucky teams to finally catch a break.

plbz | Thunder

1 | 3 hours ago

I agree. I really like the Pacers. It would be fun to see SGA v Hali again under different circumstances.

Substantial-Sea-5729 | Thunder

-32 | 4 hours ago

They ain’t ever been challenging for us 😂

youjuanfrieswiththat | Thunder

20 | 4 hours ago

Did you not watch us go 7 games against them last year or are you intentionally dumb?

Hannibals-Elephants | Thunder

3 | 3 hours ago

This dude posts on every thread. I don’t even think he’s an actual thunder fan. Just a troll

Substantial-Sea-5729 | Thunder

-22 | 4 hours ago

Just because it went to 7 doesn’t mean it was that close of a series - watch the actual games not just the box score

Bill_Sandwich | Pacers

10 | 4 hours ago

lol my friend, we all watched the games…

Substantial-Sea-5729 | Thunder

-16 | 4 hours ago

The extender was literally brought in to save yall and make it appear close lol

jaydaman23

7 | 4 hours ago

Yeah bro go get some help mehn

Who would’ve though OKC fans would be worst than GSW fans. Sad days indeed…

Bill_Sandwich | Pacers

5 | 4 hours ago

i hope you find the help you need

Acceptable_Moose1881 | Knicks

4 | 4 hours ago

It brings me no joy to say this, but I think the Pacers had y’all. You can tell pretty early on if you’re getting the Hali that goes ²⁄₁₄ or the one that goes ¹⁵⁄₂₁ and he came out hitting threes and playing like a beast. I had already made my peace with the fact that the Pacers were going to do it when his leg popped.

Saying it wasn’t even close is the most nephew shit I’ve seen all day.

Substantial-Sea-5729 | Thunder

-5 | 4 hours ago

Knicks fans cucking for the pacers is hilarious. They got smacked in the finals by us and now they are the worst team in the east. yall should be thanking OKC bc they own u guys in the playoffs every year

Acceptable_Moose1881 | Knicks

3 | 3 hours ago

Lol cucking for the Pacers. When you’re an adult, you can talk about sports and which team was winning and why without using words like cucking.

You’ll see when you get a little bit older, being able to talk like a grown up is actually pretty important if you want people to take you seriously.

Disastrous-Special30 | Pacers

1 | 2 hours ago

Ok kids this is a great example of why you shouldn’t do drugs.

wpmason

0 | an hour ago

The fuck are you talking about?

The Pacers were up 2-1 and Foster was called in to get the series tied instead of going 3-1 in Indy.

Get your facts straight.

youjuanfrieswiththat | Thunder

2 | 4 hours ago

I did watch the games and just because it ‘wasn’t a close series’ according to you doesn’t mean they didn’t challenge us. We lost 3 games and it was a 7 game series, we only really blew them out once and they blew us out once.

If they didn’t challenge us it would’ve been a sweep or 4-1 atleast.

streetlightsatdusk | Raptors

2 | 4 hours ago

How were the Finals going up until Hali tore his Achilles?

Substantial-Sea-5729 | Thunder

-2 | 4 hours ago

We woulda won in 5 if not for the extender being brought in by mr Silver

crazyirishfan353 | Pacers

7 | 4 hours ago

Did you even watch the finals? You were down 2-1 about to go down 3-1 but Mr Silver brought in Scott Foster to extend the series by giving you a win. In what world was game 4 beneficial to the Pacers for extending the series when had they won they would’ve been up 3-1?

Funny-Transition7869 | Pacers

1 | 2 hours ago

hes just ragebaiting lol

youjuanfrieswiththat | Thunder

13 | 4 hours ago

One of these teams will snatch defeat from the jaws of victory tonight

Dreamlion_Inc | Wizards

8 | 4 hours ago

Oh this is about to get so shitastic and I love it

OMJuwara | Nets

8 | 4 hours ago

The gamesmanship(or lack of it) tonight is gonna reach toxic levels. I’m all for it

Johnpecan | Warriors

1 | 3 hours ago

I’m curious to see which team will take a page out of the king’s page and intentionally foul a 90% free throw shooter.

stateworkishardwork | Kings

1 | an hour ago

And yet the Kings will still get questioned somehow

Victor_Wembanyama1 | Spurs

1 | an hour ago

I hope there is a lot of oops i tipped it in your ring hihi~ I’m so clumsy

Least-Glass-2207 | East

6 | 4 hours ago

I’m going to watch this game just to see how bad it gets. Mfs gon have clax running the point

Brooklyn917 | Nets

2 | an hour ago

Claxton is out but he was once leading the team in assists

nicvic83

3 | 4 hours ago

It’s “ pick a fan to play” night.

HokageEzio | Knicks

5 | 3 hours ago

If you’re over 6’0”, live in Brooklyn and have ever picked up a basketball in your life do not turn off your phone.

Funny-Transition7869 | Pacers

3 | 2 hours ago

this game is much more important for the nets than us. we have to lose one of our final 3 tho

SpinJitsu259 | Pacers

1 | an hour ago

True, but the Pacers losing would lead to a tank race for the ages among the Nets, Jazz, and Kings, so if you’re a chaos guy, the Pacers losing could be fun for you.

DenverNuggetsIndia | Nuggets

2 | 3 hours ago

“Must not watch” basketball

Me_975 | Celtics

2 | 3 hours ago

I will be there (hopefully with a burger)

petarisawesomeo | Nuggets

2 | 3 hours ago

Injury report available in both hardcover and paperback

Szobortz | Mavericks

2 | 4 hours ago

pacers play ethical basketball. they won’t engage in tank off. probably a blow out

Certain_Cranberry_77

1 | 4 hours ago

How would Bob Costas narrate this on NBA on NBC?

Rocky-Rocker

1 | 4 hours ago

SUPER TANK BOWL

CoolAsTheUnthawed | OKC

1 | 3 hours ago

Domain clash incoming.

Chills.

Robinsonirish | Finland

1 | 3 hours ago

It’s like an inverse relegation battle. Games matter so much, but instead of winning being the goal, it’s losing.

bloodrider1914 | Spurs

1 | 2 hours ago

The lack of defense played will be the stuff of legends

Jack_The_Sparrow_ | Warriors

1 | 2 hours ago

A bunch of professional athletes and coaches trying to out-tank each other might actually make a great game

thubwumper26 | Spurs

1 | an hour ago

Two words:

Must. See. Basketball.

Brooklyn917 | Nets

1 | an hour ago

The Nets last 2 games were the “Biggest Tanking Games of the season” and they play the Bucks again on Friday.

Worst closing schedule ever!

Sufficient_Swing_406 | Raptors

1 | an hour ago

From NBA finals to a top 3 pick. Crazy

friggyphoto | Knicks

1 | 43 minutes ago

A stoppable force meets a movable object.

IgnorantGenius | Clippers

1 | 19 minutes ago

Could this be the worst basketball a fan could ever see? Two teams of players trying not hard to win because they know they will get their minutes reduced by an incoming potential top draft pick?

erithtotl

-2 | an hour ago

So tired of Indiana getting lumped in with the other tankers. Even after losing Ty they expected to be a playoff team this year. Do people forget how hard they played OkC in the opener?

Then they got an avalanche of early injuries, with many key players missing weeks or months. By the time they started to get healthy, they were already so far out of it that they were never going to make the play-in.

So they tanked, sure. But not from day 1 like Utah. Not until they were out of it. What are they supposed to do? Once you have no realistic chance of the playoffs why would you risk injuries on an already injury riddled roster with your best player out all season. There’s not a fan in the league who would want their team fighting and risking their players so they could finish 12th.

This is not Utah or Washington or Brooklyn where they started the season expecting to be garbage.

YerrrKnicks | Knicks

-4 | 3 hours ago

Man, I remember when Nets fans would brigade our sub and talk shit about how they’re better than us and will take over NY after winning a chip…

Crazy to see where they’re at now. Such fond memories 😂

Expensive-Reward-952 | Knicks

-3 | 4 hours ago

I don’t think this was tanking, both genuinely just are that shit at basketball.

MyTeamsSuck99

11 | 4 hours ago

You don’t think both teams resting 8 guys is tanking ? Lol

Expensive-Reward-952 | Knicks

-2 | 4 hours ago

I think they’ve rested similar numbers of guys before, Its also the nets im not really shocked if they would unintentionally do something as stupid as that.

MyTeamsSuck99

5 | 4 hours ago

Yeah because they’ve been tanking lol. That’s why you rest 8 guys lmao

Expensive-Reward-952 | Knicks

-4 | 4 hours ago

Maybe but be real here, would you be shocked if the nets aren’t tanking and just straight up this garbage? its the NETS

sanjit8103 | Nuggets

1 | 4 hours ago

Still remember last years playoffs huh?

Expensive-Reward-952 | Knicks

1 | 4 hours ago

I could give you a photographic recap of every time my team has pissed me off if you’d like. But yes, the answer is yes.

Substantial-Sea-5729 | Thunder

-8 | 4 hours ago

Its funny to see the pacers as a bottom of the league team after all the trash they talked last playoffs

Rocky-Rocker

3 | 4 hours ago

I mean i know from above you’re a dumb thunder fan but the Pacers have been devastated by injuries.

Substantial-Sea-5729 | Thunder

-4 | 4 hours ago

They tried to use that excuse in the finals too. Its part of the game

TheGoatPurdy | Warriors

3 | 3 hours ago

My god thunders fans are insufferable

Pacers easily takes finals in 6 if the extender didn’t give you a freebie. Leading to the “part of the game” injury that took out their best player for an entire year.

Foh loser

Robinsonirish | Finland

1 | 3 hours ago

Me, when I don’t actually follow the NBA and just ignore everything that happened in the past year.

One of the biggest tanking games of the season is tonight in Brooklyn between the Pacers and the Nets.