Jokic in 7 career games against Wemby: 37/11/9 and 2.7 turnovers on 62.1% TS, 5-2 record
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/jokic-career-stats-vs.-wemby
He loves himself a French baguette (Rudy and Wemby)
I also love myself a French baguette (I’m fat and like fancy bread)
I’m also very similar to a 3x MVP
Big fan of horse racing?
I’m just a dick to my fellow countrymen
Shhh, that’s not supposed to reach the American media
Someone said if every team had a French defender, Jokic would get the scoring title
Can’t even average a triple double smh
The only reason he doesn’t rebound as well is because hes guarding a perimeter player instead of wemby. Gordon gets those boards
He’s missing the triple double because of assists tho
I gotcha. Well tonight the lower rebound count was due to that. Not sure about the assists
I mean today it was mostly due to Wemby being much taller lol
He wasnt guarding Wemby that was kinda the whole point of the comment above
Wemby may be the future, but Jokic is the present!
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AG is an absolute game changer for us, and he showed why today for sure!
AG is the archetype the Thunder used to craft Lu Dort. Guy is a dawg; never understood those arguments about Joker not having all-stars around him when he’s had AG/Murray for so long.
???? Their playstyles are entirely different and Dort broke out when AG was still on the magic
Have to agree, haven’t seen a jokic game where I don’t think he’s still the current best ball player in the world tbh
I laughed out loud when Jokic hit his patented dumbass Dirk turnaround fadeaway in OT, and hit the dagger
It’s disturbing how inevitable it is when he’s doing the animation, and you’re like no, it’s not going to go in, and then it does
He jumps off the other foot than dirk does on those shots, so it’s a new patented shot. The sombor shuffle
the ugliest jokic shot with the clock going down after 23.9 seconds of lockdown defense is inevitable
I will remember this shot even if I have dementia and forget the names of my children.
Ugly? It’s poetry in motion.
Its called the Sombor Shuffle
I still remember his ballerina 3 point shot in playoffs against okc. That shit did feel inevitable but still unreal.
He obliterates DPOYs and y’all want me to say he’s not the best player in the league because why?
He is definitely the best player in the league, has been since 2020.
I’m a Spurs guy, but I’ve always loved the meaty Serb
Pop gushed about him. That probably holds some sway with Spurs fans. Plus, they’ve seen Duncan and Ginobili. They know what special basketball looks like.
I’ve had an appreciation for him since his second year in the league, honestly
It’s just crazy fun basketball, with no ego drama. Duncan was like that.
I love it, man. He’s perfect
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SGA deserves MVP this year but no one is going to convince me Jokic isn’t the best in the world. Who else can do this to Wemby?
Jokic should at least finish #2 in the MVP race, it has always been clear that it’s SGA vs Jokic. Media is just trying to stir some shit by putting Wemby and Luka higher than him.
Nah man Luka was going fucking ballistic but there’s no way he will win it now
Wemby is the clear 4th because of his minutes but he’s the media darling so it’s kind of hard to have a serious conversation about it
no one dude, ive seen guys on my team seem fearful of wemby, jokic has still got it man.
i know sga got it wrapped up, but i think it has been a great week for the mvp race, ended by this great denver performance. Just giving jokic props, so much respect, who else is doing this to wemby
Thunder locking up the 1 seed guarantees SGA has the MVP and deservedly so
Shai deserves MVP no question but Jokic would be my #2 and he’s been super disrespected in the MVP race
MVP is still Shai i think by a good margin. But the best player in the world title is Jokic undisputedly
Wemby is too twiggy to guard him
Unfortunately for him Jokic is also 7 feet with long arms and has the best post moves in the league, can’t blame him much
Jokic is just flat out stronger too, and might always be with Wemby’s size.
Jokic will always be stronger but I do expect wemby to add 15-20 lbs by the time hes hitting his prime
You don’t want to add too much muscle. It’ll strain the ligaments and what not. He’s only going to get so big and stay healthy.
Yea i mean he COULD add 40-50 lbs on that frame. I think it will be closer to 15-20 bc that’d still be perfectly reasonable and would give him a big edge on the court
I don’t think people realize how much strength matters especially at the 5. It means Jokic can get the ball in spots he wants because of his strength advantage. Wemby’s stance also has to be low and firmly planted just to be able to hold ground against Jokic which makes him more vulnerable against fadeaway J’s.
This is why Embiid also dropped 70 on Wemby (70/15/5). He made him look like a kid playing against a grown man.
Wemby is going to need to put on a lot more muscle to be able to handle the monsters like Jokic and Embiid.
good for Wemby that he’s a decade older too
Like 80% of the league is stronger than Wemby.
Plus Jokic has a very high release when he shoots.
Being just under 7 feet and still learning to shoot every shot like a moonball you catapult over your head really is diabolical lol
That’s just a veteran teaching the youngin. This makes wemby better and in 10 years he will big brother an unexpecting next star and the cycle will continue.
Wemby is great at guarding Jokic. He can get him under the rim a bit, but I’ve never seen someone affect Jokic’s shot nearly as much as he does.
Difference though is Jokic has pulled some Harakiri-tier shotmaking on him lmao. I adore this matchup, it pushes the very best out of my favourite player to watch as a shotmaker, the middy he made at the last minute this game was ridiculous.
Jokic like most elite shotmakers doesn’t really care about contests. What makes wemby elite is that he has so much length that the threat of the block is real.
The issue is that against huge centers like embiid or jokic he is merely big and long and not an alien. They aren’t afraid of getting their shot swatted. What bothers them us when you get into their footing and disrupt their rhythm, wemby isnt strong enough to do that.
Its why every elite center is guarded by a big strong forward and not another center, the extra length just doesn’t matter that much.
I think you are right for most matchups a guy like Jokic or Embiid face, but not Wemby. I watch pretty much every Jokic game and the way he reacts/shots he avoids/shot trajectories he adapts against Wemby are unlike any other opponent he has ever played against. Which makes sense, as Wemby’s height and wingspan are also uniquely crazy.
He’s still making the shots though, which is a testament to his insane talent level. Same for when Embiid scored 70 vs the Spurs.
Thats the point though right. Wemby and his length will make them change their approach but the strength and shotmaking usually prevails. Its why it’s so rare for teams to guard elite bigs with other bigs.
After looking up other good bigs the pattern also holds.
You can’t call a sample size of 7 games averaging 37pts at 62% TS anything other than him dominating Wemby.
Crazy to imagine but Jokic has average 66% TS, 13 rebounds and 10 assists since Wemby has entered the league. 7 games isn’t really a statistically significant sample size but Jokic has actually shot WORSE than his average against Wemby with less auxiliary stats. The lower TS and higher points can both be attributed to Wemby forcing guards to pass out of drives meaning Jokic takes more shots later in possessions than he typically would. Obviously these stats are still dominant but not really any more dominant than he is against the rest of the league.
Scoring 37 at 62% is better than scoring 27 at 66%. This is a massive difference.
37 at 62% over a season would be the greatest scoring season of all time, so Jokic vs Wemby so far over 7 games has played like the greatest scorer of all time.
Jokic has dominated, but my point is that he hasn’t done that because he’s finding it easy against Wemby. On the contrary Wemby is the guy I’ve seen that makes him go to his very very best in his shooting bag due to just how videogame like his length is.
And some of the games last year were even crazier than this one. Jokic is shooting and making some actual moonballs against him just to avoid blocks lol
Except this is just looking at his numbers in those games not actually when wemby guards him jokic hasn’t shot well in 2 of their last 3 matchups including this one despite putting up good numbers
Wemby cannot guard Jokic 1 on 1 lmao. You spurs fans need to let it go. All time offense will always beat all time defense.
And yet jokic still shoots worse when guarded by wemby and clearly has to try way harder
And yet still outplays him.
Both had great games and the game went to the wire I’d hardly say he outplayed wemby
He very clearly outplayed him lmao. And dominated him down the stretch.
Not really, both guys played great idk why u wanna make it seem like wemby didn’t and jokic just was far and away better just cus the nuggets won. We would not be having this convo if they didn’t and I’m sure you’d be acting like wemby dominated jokic if we won by this logic
Twiggy? Bro it’s not like he big bodied him he just has a crazy soft touch. Most of those late 4th quarter buckets were finesse
He got bodied multiple times this game, can’t really hold his ground against him (yet).
That’s not true, he guards him pretty well
Can’t really say that considering bro averages 37 against him.
Old Serbian horse shows that there’s levels to this
This Old Serbian still makes Coca Cola the old Fashioned way.
Old Serbian eats his salsa from San Antonio
At this point i dont think hes a horse, he must be some kind of goat
Shaq isn’t happy with this performance
He hates both of them. Genuinely.
He hates everyone that isnt a bum tbf
He hates anyone that can challenge his legacy or overtake him as a historically great big man
Shaqs the quintessential dude who loves you as long as you’re doing worse than him, but as soon as you get to his level he gets jealous and vindictive
Also a lot of the old guys are simply bitter and jealous because of the money. Like dudes had 200k contracts when Shaq was drafted. Stars got the current vet mins basically.
Except for MJ he got like 33 mill a year which was more than most teams total salaries.
Thats 67 million a year adjusted for inflation btw.
Shaq was on a 120 mill contract in the mid 90s back when gas was 99c and a mega mansion was like a million dollars
The lower level guys definitely got screwed out back then, but superstars like Shaq have no place to be mad about current contracts when they were making 100s of millions back when the dollar was worth way more
Oh I agree, its just greed at that point. But like thats the same guy who monetized every possible thing ever.
Its also funny to me how much hes jealous of Gobert
His whole career he has a 286 million dollar earnings. Not accounting for inflation obviously, but that’s what Shai’s current 4 year deal is worth
Jokic going crazy in this last stretch of games, I’m glad to see Jokic hoop like this again bro
Wemby is too small, Jokic just bumps him out of the way with no effort.
jokic is like the one guy who has wemby’s number, that funny looking high release is a deadly weapon
Yeah, I feel like Embiid in his prime probably was another type of archetype.
There arent too many offensive force, big bodied centre’s, thats why. Because Wemby is so tall he cant really hold people out if the post, even if he is strong.
Jokic has such a an array of small shots, that he can best Wemby because Wembys timing and anticipation isnt crazy because he hasn’t really had to develop that because he is an octopus.
Yea Embiid also dominates Wemby. People forget Embiid dropped 70 on him, 70/15/5.
Wemby just need’s to put on a lot more muscle before he can handle monsters like Jokic and Embiid.
That’s my MVP
Jokic is too big for Wemby to guard
It’s going to be a long series for Wemby if they meet the Nuggets lol
So the only way to stop Wemby is with an equally rare unicorn, awesome.
Best father and son duo by a mile. Lebron and Bronny needs to step up.
40 with Wemby guarding him for the most part. Jokic still a notch better than Wemby.
Real dog shit, Wemby is an amazing player but he’s not there yet
He had 35 18 and 7 and 5 blocks
Right, wtf are we talkin about here lmfao
Wemby had an amazing game. Jokic is just better.
He disappeared in OT. He had an incredible game, but this is why experience matters in the playoffs.
This is the difference between a guy that played 36-37 mins a game and a guy who’s team handles him with mittens, he doesn’t have the same level of stamina because he either hasn’t been allowed or hasn’t been able to play 40 mins like that.
Or he was holding the team down on both ends of the floor while the other guy only plays one end? Are we fr rn
Way to say you didn’t watch the game. jokic was incredible on defense
Lmao
Against the Jazz you’re right, Jokic doesn’t play defense, but he definitely shows up to play both ends in big matchups and the playoffs.
Lmao he’s more active but the effort he puts on both ends is nowhere near what Vic is doing regardless bro, Jokic won’t even jump on defense
Jokic doesn’t jump on offense either. I pointed out Vic plays 29 MPG. And for some reason that made you big mad. Good luck to you.
He had a great game, unfortunate that he wasn’t able to play in overtime.
Plus Wemby was a rookie during 4 of their matchups
Keep watching the box score, in the post he was getting challenged over and over by Jokic and was getting handled every time.
Jokic made moon shots you cant play any better defense than that
He’s 7’4 built like an alien, and jokic playing that well against that, you can’t play better than that and that’s the point.
ok and how does that make his performance “dog shit”? mfs be saying anything
Did he win?
Spurs are 10 games ahead of the Nuggets
Yet they still just lost 😂
Team game
He’s the franchise cornerstone. That comes with extra weight whether you like it or not.
Ok he showed up and fox sold??
He had a great game, and then he had a bad OT.
Stop this nonsense
It’s not nonsense, he definitely didn’t have the best OT
He kinda got outscored by Cam Johnson in OT.
Fox ball hogged when wemby was wide open
This is the result of ESPN and fox sports hot takes
Did you watch the game or are u just scrolling
Yes we watched it. We watched Jokic outplay Wemby again. You know the guy everyone in the sub is crowning the best player in the world lmao.
Yeah he really clowned wemby, he only had 34, 18, 7, and 5 blocks!! Go jokic go!!!!!!
Yet Jokic still outplayed him!!!!!!!
Why can’t Wemby grow to 8’5? Is he stupid?
Edit: Girth wins once again against length.
It’s not just girth where he’s better than Wemby It’s iq. If it was about girth, John Cena would be in the NBA.
I was just joking about the girth vs length debate about dicks ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
They were both great, MVP discussions are so toxic.
Wemby is 21. He’s not even close to his prime yet. The league is gonna be cooked in 7 years
That’s nasty..
R/nba when a 3 time mvp has done good against a guy on their rookie deal
Wemby gets few blocks on him, but he is legitimately getting cooked 1v1 against Jokic since he joined the league.
When your super power is that you’re bigger than everyone else you’re bound to get shown up by the better player
Feels like he matches up really well against Wemby, he’s tall enough and has such precise shooting he’s actually capable of shooting over him consistently, something Wemby is obviously not used to.
It’s well known that a good offense beats a good defense, in the NBA offense is prioritized. It’s still amazing seeing the greatest offensive machine facing off against the greatest defensive machine
frying his ass
Is he the only guy that sees wemby and continues to take him under the rim. And actual mad man
Only player in the league that can just go at Wemby and score sometimes.
Wemby makes him work, but jokic is too good offensively
Wemby had trash teams the first 6 matchups lol, oh brother
Enjoy it for now big guy
Wemby’s length is no match for Joker’s girth.
Like someone pointed he is so great that players like Wemby/Gobert make him go bananas because the other team usually uses 1 on 1 on bigs but Jokic needs a whole team like OKC to make him less good.
Also 0 turnovers in the last game is so hard to do.
Poulet Barbecue
Wondering how Gobert does against Jokic
Jokic cooks him too
Jokic got the W so no argument there, but I’m questioning any assist stats for him atp.
Go question others too.
Just yesterday Prichard got an assist for Walsh going from the 3pt line, driving through traffic, 3 dribbles, 2 pump fakes to lay it up. Same game, Tatum inbounds to Brown and Brown does all the work, going through 2 defenders to score a layup. The same game, Queta hands off it to Pritchard, two dribbles driving to the basket (50% of his assists). The same game, White hands it to Scheierman, two dribbles, scoring a floater over the double team. The same game, Ron Harper Jr. passes to Gonzalez who drives through 2 defenders, 2 dribbles, layup, doing all the work himself. Same game, Sam Hauser to Brown, iso, two dribbles, shake the defender, fade.
Jokic isn’t getting any special treatment here.
Keep the same energy for every assist of every player who has ever played in the NBA. This is like the over reaction to John Stockton’s home assist a few years ago on social media. And then when you do a simple research and realize john Stockton averages one more assist at home for his career than he did on the road which isn’t that big of a deal and if he averaged the same amount of assists on the road as he did at home he still will be the NBA all-time leader in assists. Much to do about nothing. Whoever your favorite player is has a number of assist that you could consider questionable every player whoever played does.
Luka and Jokic have something in common
We just flexing on players by bringing up their rookie records? What are we doing lol
he just put 40 on him. Stop ur yapping, you absolute reta… I mean.. Less intelligent person <3
Yeah, I’m excited for a seven games series
MVP
He had at least one real stinker against us this year so really it should be even closer to 40. Incredible player.
Is Wemby a fraud?
Tbf most of these games were played without this supporting cast
Fuuuck this guy.
Wemby will just pad it once Jokic gets washed.
Now do his stats against us
And still the best in the world
Wemby can’t guard him
I mean who can really lol 😂
Washed Dwight Howard and KAT for some reason
Dude does really well against lanky DPOY players, such as Wemby and Gobert. It’s the smaller and stockier guys that give him more fitsz
Name one
Wendell Carter Jr
via Statmuse, Averaging a near 26 point triple double is giving a dude fits?
Check the stats of Jokic against Gobert and Wemby now
Jokic is fantastic player, no doubt, But the thing is - spurs tried to defend him 1-on-1 with Wemby, without sending double teams.
Did you watch the last 10 seconds of the 4th?
The Jokic double gave the the man who also happends to be the league assist leader an easy pass to AG for a unguarded dunk.
Jokic eats double teams and will still get his points.
He’s quite good I guess.
Truth be told I was a Jokic fan way before it was cool
Yeah only super elite defenders like Mitchell Robinson can slow down Jokic. Wemby just isn’t at that level
Jokic is the MVP but the waters have been too muddied. SGA has the better team, Wemby has the media and Luka fat ass has been eliminated but you know Laker fans like to hate.
Luka had the newly divorced super power cooking those last 10 games tho.
Light work. Bring on the playoffs, I wanna see Vic’s body hold up to 7 straight bump and grind matchups.
Watching Wemby defense against elite centers…he’s not on Hakeem, Wilt or Bill Russell’s level defensively
But defense wins MVPs or something
surprisingly, bbq chicken
Show Wemby guarding Jokic then lol
Specifically on possessions when guarding each other (per 75):
Jokic: 35.7 pts, 7.5 ast, 66.7% TS%
Wemby: 24.8 pts/ 2.9 ast, 44.6% TS%
Source
Rookie wemby in there im not moved
Filtering out rookie Wemby only brings his stats down son 😭😭
Neither of these guys like to guard each other to begin with lmao. Jokic just abuses Wemby with power and touch, and Wemby can dance too far outside for Jokic to be comfortable with. Wemby occasionally ends up on him out of necessity, but he’d much rather play in help to try and cover up gaps.
why would they do that when they got aaron fking gordon lol
Exactly so whats the point of posting jokic on wemby when jokic never guards wemby lmao