Wemby vs. Jokic in the first half: Wemby 15/11/4 and 3 blocks on 2⁄5 FG and 10⁄11 FT, Jokic 20/4/4 on 5⁄7 FG and 10⁄11 FT
https://www.nba.com/game/sas-vs-den-0022501130/box-score
Way too many foul calls so far the refs need to take a back seat
Shit’s been misery to watch
No game flow at all this crew needs to be banished to the shadow realm ruining what should be premium hoops man
#THEY’RE GETTING FOULED
You guys are so fucking annoying. They’re actually getting fouled, hence the foul calls.
Blame the dopes who can’t defend them without fouling
It’s just fuckin inconsistent as hell. Jokic not getting calls for getting hit to the face but they call shit like Harper fighting through a screen… can we at least get some consistency??? One second they’re “letting them play” the next its touch fouls all over the place.
Then call less. They do it in the Playoffs
Games like this are miserable
there’s no basketball atm
It’s not game time Reddit without multiple comments complaining about refs. Either lack of calls or too many calls. Doesn’t matter. The one constant is the complaint.
This reminds me of the Spurs first game vs the Lakers, absolute foul fest, refs were stopping the action every few seconds it felt like. Hope the refs start swallowing their whistles in the 2nd half.
Yeah that game was terrible. Last quarter was a foul every possession. Literal free throw shooting contest.
Fun fact. There were 60 fouls called during that matchup. That averages to a foul every 48 seconds in that game. I wanted to kms by the end of it and was hoping Julian would miss those tying free throws so the game could be over.
Both teams playing with playoff physicality, so I can’t be mad at all the calls
I can. They are getting a bunch of shit wrong.
I was addressing the quantity, not quality.
I don’t mind there being lots of foul calls on Victor and jokic. Both teams are being purposefully physical on how they defend the Stars so if that’s how you’re going to call it then that’s fine
What I do have a problem with is them having a super light whistle with both stars, but then there are other times where guys are being thrown around bodied hip checked, and both teams are pushing off on each other constantly with the rough staring at it and nothing happening. Just a stupidly inconsistent game from the refs
Flair checks out
My guy are you telling me you LIKE ft competitions
My guy, are you telling me you cant understand a joke?
Lakers fans tryna joke about other teams free throws lol
Let the adults talk jr
I never want to see the Spurs talk about the Thunder again. They’re all in the nuggets jerseys and Wemby has at least 3 throat/head shots in the half
Refs called four tick tack fouls on Wemby and Castle inside the first two minutes. And now they’re letting mugging go - this one is on the refs.
Agreed that the refs have been awful
who you tho?
Just someone watching Spurs Nuggs, nice to meet you
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Did I say I was deciding something lol you need to learn to read. Yes Wemby got hit too, that doesn’t change what I said
Yes you did. You said you never want to hear Spurs fans, blah blah blah. So yeah you don’t get to decide anything for anyone else
You’re just a moron who doesn’t usually watch Spurs games. I’ve watched like 40 of their games this year, and this is by far the most physical and grabby they’ve played, whereas every single OKC game I’ve watched has been at least as bad as this, and usually worse. But yes, one game completely nullifies everything and now all is equal, so Spurs can never say anything about OKC.
Hahah I’m a moron for stating what happened in the first half. Coming in hot fella might wanna dial down the keyboard warrior vibes
No, you’re a moron for insinuating that a complete outlier trash first half is equal to all the garbage Dort (and to a lesser extent Caruso and Wallace) gets away with on a consistent basis. He does it all. Jersey pulling, pushing when he thinks refs aren’t looking, grabbing when he thinks refs aren’t looking and then flailing backwards on a standard arm bar (that his superstar does all the time) when he thinks the refs are looking. He sticks out his leg constantly and only dialed it down after the refs finally called it when he did it multiple times against the Spurs.
If you want to call me a keyboard warrior for putting together a complete argument that utterly exposes you as a moron, then I’m fine with being called a keyboard warrior. It’s a compliment! Let me guess, you’ll probably address nothing I said here and reply with “too long didn’t read” or “its not that deep lol”
Thanks for the wall of text I’ll pass. Have a good day ya moron
Aww, you baby! You’re so predictable. Do you see how I predicted exactly what you would do?
lol yes I’m sure you see that response a lot texting the way that you do. so it becomes predictable when people say it then stop talking to you
It’s so funny how you said “have a good day” implying that you’re done with this conversation, but then you just couldn’t help yourself after I said you were predictable and continued to reply. You’re so worked up, my guy. Relax and admit you’re a moron who can’t respond to anything I actually said.
Say something worth responding to and I just might give it the time, my champ
Spurs fans acting like they aren’t just ad physical (if not more) than OKC is hilarious
All the best defenses are lol 😂 it’s just we won the chip last year so we are the poster boys
You guys absolutely are the most physical defense in the league and it’s not even close. Unlike other people I don’t blame you guys for it or have an issue with it even though I’m a Spurs fan. I blame the league. You’re just playing to what you’re allowed to do. If the NBA has an issue with it, they can instruct the refs to crack down on stuff more. They don’t, and as a result you guys have built a defensive culture based around pushing the envelope as much as possible with physicality
It’s resulted in you guys literally being one of the greatest defenses I’ve ever seen
It’s because it’s true. Cope harder homer
Another dumbass incorrect gaslighting opinion from the chef iblocka himself.
You literally don’t believe you’re own BS. You guys absolutely know you’re the most physical team in the league. It’s fine. Own it. Your players do your coaching staff does don’t try to BS. But don’t pretend there’s any other team in the league that plays with the level of absolute reckless intensity on the perimeter that you and your guard rotation does
In what world is the Spurs defense more physical than OKC’s? Your players literally assault people constantly. Tremendous gaslighting.
“Assault” sure buddy….
I don’t want to see 22 free throws between the two of them. I want to see baskets please
The only way to stop Wemby is to foul him with smaller guys and hope the refs put the whistle away.
The only way to stop Jokic is to foul him with smaller guys and hope the refs put the whistle away.
The consequence is that when they play each other and the refs bring their whistles, the product is atrocious.
It’s kinda the best strategy for both these guys. Because they’re both incredible.
That’s unethical I’ve been told.
nono that’s what they call full extension push offs and non stop flailing in every shooting motion
Yes Jokic and Wemby two guys who never push off or flail
Very interesting , i didn’t say a single name here
its like you had people in mind for my description
Go look again at the title of this post
When it was OKC , Caruso was literally trying to foul Jokic at times and the refs turned the other way. It’s disgusting basketball seeing small guys draped all over Jokic and then saying they’re playing him physical …
You were blessed with 22 additional baskets in the first half alone
Then stop fouling them
This is the NBA Finals of “How much contact are you allowed as a wing on a big when battling for position” and it has very much been a shitshow
How’d it go this time? Usually I just see the big man getting smacked and groped every which way
Refball masterclass for both sides
To be fair these players are all crafty as fuck and are making it a pretty difficult game to officiate.
Ohhhh boy don’t use that kind of reasoning if Shai gets 10+ free throws, you will get downvoted and told about how different it is
Ray Acosta is reffing
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Or maybe players are fouling a lot
Can’t expect anything else from Ray Acosta
Ref fans feasting from that first half
Refs ruining this game
The biggest winners of this MVP race are people who farm karma by posting partial stat sheets.
How is it a problem posting the 2 best players on the court stats at the half? Wemby and Jokic are battling. Fun game to watch so far expect for the refs ruining it
The refs have completly lost the control of this game from the get go, I won’t even blame any player for it honestly, like the refs simply haven’t established at all what is a foul and what isn’t, if they don’t at the start of the 3rd this game will be a complete shitshow
They called two soft fouls on Wemby, Castle, and Jokic in the 1st quarter and it’s been makeup calls leading to more makeup calls ever since
I don’t even mind the soft fouls (well I do, but that’s not even the bigger problem), but you just can’t call those in the first 2 minutes, and then randomly not call anything for 2 mins and then call everything again, let the players adjust to the whistle
Dude seriously, i keep feeling that so much of this is makeup calls. They called it too tight to start. Then they had that missed inadvertent contact on Jokic and it quickly snowballed from there. They’re ruining this game.
The refs want Wemby out. Good plan Nuggets 😉
They pretty much lost it when Jokic got poked in the eye and then they got called for a tech. Nuggets are going to be hot from that and from there it’s just escalated because of some bad calls on both ends
I think they lost it even earlier then that honestly. Like even in the first few possessions they alternated between calling EVERYTHING and calling NOTHING, you just can’t do that at the start of a game
They’re just totally lost on both ends from the crowd and people yelling at them totally overwhelmed and just constantly fucking up.
I’m losing my mind
Same man its taken a great matchup and turned it into a terrible game to watch
Yup honestly the game is totally unwatchable, like I can take anything away from that half from a match up standpoint, how am I suppose to know if AG on Wemby with Jokic on a shooter or how Wemby on Braun with the 4 on Jokic look like in this match up when both Wemby and Joker have twice as many free throws made as field goals
Just a ridiculously weird game. Some super ticky tack calls to open the game, and then they’ve allowed some blatant hard fouls to go uncalled. Both teams are frustrated and it feels like things are going to boil over. They’re absolutely losing control of this
Thats what happens when fouls are subjective. If a shit product.
Games being taken over the refs just sucks the air out of it.
What people thought SGA vs Luka would be like lmao, this is the real flop off.
SGA vs Luka was too lopsided to even try for flops
they’re not flopping, every damn thing just gets called
“They’re not flopping” hahahahahahaaaaa
tell me you aren’t watching the game without telling me you aren’t watching the game
the refs are just calling everything, there is no flopping happening
Tbf same thing happens with Shai but everything is called a flop since ppl don’t like him. he’s been pushed but people call it “flopping”, very funny to see actually.
Or maybe it’s bc we’ve literally watched the dude contort his body midair and throw himself on the ground. Omg, the most obvious flopping gets the most attention, wow
“contort his body midair”.. So he is in the air while in motion trying to avoid contact..yet “he throws himself on the ground”? Do you understand physics? He foul baits he doesnt exaggerate contact. Show a clip
I blame David Stern for allowing Europeans into the NBA
This is what you get when it’s two 7 footers
Nobody flop against Luka/Lakers. Why you have to when you can score with ease?
Refs are turning a good game into a foul-a-thon
Refball enjoyers feasting.
refs have been terrible all around on both sides
interesting to see the discourse after this game
What discourse? They calling fouls on both sides lmao
What discourse? He says as he starts a discourse.
Yall been saying now that it’s not how many free throws Shai gets but how he gets them so why do the numbers matter
Only true geniuses use a sample size of 1 game.
You think this is the first time Wemby and Jokic have flopped their ass off? Lol
I hope the tweets I see on Twitter about SGA will be there for this match too
15 points on 2⁄5 shooting is crazy for a guy who talks about ethical basketball
I mean its not his fault the refs are shit. He shot 3 tech ft right?
I’ve been out running errands, I’m just a Thunder fan doing what other fans usually do.
He’s supposed to miss on purpose when the refs give him free throws?
??? No man I’m saying he’s a hypocrite.
Which doesn’t make sense if you you know, actually watch the games, or know the difference between baiting fouls & the way dudes just hit & claw on Jokic every game
Yeah I know all of that, but I looked at the box score and obviously the dudes just hunting free throws. He had as many free throws as field goal attempts, he must be a free throw merchant. Unethical baller.
NBA can be such a trash product
It’s a hackathon, Refs should’ve kept a tighter whistle
For everyone saying refball, Spurs and Nuggets both average more FTA per game than the Thunder, who everyone is always complaining about, this just looks like a normal Nuggets vs Spurs game to me🤣🤣
Brain dead people incapable of critical thinking look at total free throws attempted an think it tell the entire story lol. Oh sorry looks you’re one of them 😂.
2 floppers going at it
Mr Big Ethics
Ethics is when you don’t get fouled
If you’d only look at the stats you’d think this game is a masterpiece, but it’s just a game dominated by the zebras.
They having a FT shoot off
This the statline folks expected sga and luka to have
Refs thinking we be tuning in to watch them lol
I watched the game and they were getting pushed and fouled a lot. Do you prefer no calls on obvious fouls?
35 on 7 made shots combined is crazy lmao
So glad these mutants are out West and not in the Eastern Conference.
As a referee fan I’m glad that they put a lid on wenbanyama’s flopping and baiting. Oh wait.
Total playoff vibes. So hard to be a referee
Jokic is getting killed out there
Lol
Nuggets really should have Jokic post up on Wemby more often
This shit is boring. Let them play
Spurs had hella Saturday games this year feels like
complete haramball
Masters doing masterclasses.
Defense matters. Wemby is dominating him
Sounds awful guess I’m not missing anything
saving this thread
unethical basketball
jamal murray also fucking sleeping the usual when it comes to real games like this
Ref handed this one to the spurs. Jokic het punched in the face and Wemby gets free throws and the ball lol sure ok. Jokic missed a shot an got the outback and Wemby faked a head hit. Spurs okc will be a flop fest in the finals.
couple of free throw merchants we got on our hands it seems
“Ethical hoops”
15 points on 2 made fg 😂
Yeah I don’t wanna hear anyone try to claim SGA flops the most. This is unbelievable
If that’s true then why did Stan van gundy make the golden globe joke about both big guys?
you’ve replied this on almost everything. get real dude.
Finals mvp wemby
Found the butthurt Lakers fan
*Lakucks. “Please beat everyone for us! Lakers nation!!”
Id be mad too if I was a Jokic fan seeing how much better wemby is. Your season is over buddy.
😂 LAL fans are dead serious about cucking for the Spurs, can’t make this up. YOUR season is actually over, at least the Nugs are getting past the 1st round bruh
Lmao nuggets fans flexing a first round win. Congratulations! You get to play Okc or spurs and lose
Even your comeback has a whiny, crying tone lmao.
This is what you get when you allow wings to maul centers all year and then decide to call it correctly for one game for no apparent reason.
Nuggets are the ones making this toxic tbh. Jokic gotta chill out 😂
The way the game thread is talking about wemby you would have thought he shot 25 free throws in the first half to jokic’s 5
Wemby already better than Jokic. Hes affected like 10 possessions at the rim.
Jokic cooked him but sure
I think they look even
I saw Wemby swat Jokic twice. And got him scared to shoot other times. Jokic resorting to flopping. Wembys FTs all legit
Jokic scored on one of those blocks
like the one where he literally just fell over? sure buddy
I wouldn’t wanna go around the dude throwing elbows at everyone’s heads either.
Jokic on the other hand pushing people to the ground every other possession and no calls.
Who got elbowed?
So…. Guess you were wrong 😂😂😂😂😂
I’ll take the L
Amazing game nonetheless.
Jokic was cooking him every time in the post, went like 4⁄5 on him
Better at what exactly, being dirty? What a flex 😂
Defense is half the game. It’s a stroll in the paint against Jokic. Layup line
Cmon Wemby got two fouls early cause nuggets wanted him gone. If Jokic was that good, he wouldn’t need to do that
Doing their best SGA impression
should be 10/11/4. THIS IS BULLSHIT
Mind you, Jokic had 9 out of 11 of his free throw attempts in the last 4:18 of the half, bad reffing on both sides and it’s not pretty to watch but stop with this bullshit, he complained about a call and the refs ‘fixed’ it by getting him to the line
That’s a lie, he shot 2 in the first quarter
Good catch, had to fix that on my part
The fact that you mfs glaze these 2 constantly, but then hate SGA with a fiery passion for being a free throw merchant, is fucking ridiculous.
How many fts does wemby average?
It’s not about the numbers, the more important thing is that the ratio of uncalled fouls to called fouls for Wemby is astronomically higher than for SGA. The latter gets fouled, yes, but he knows how to sell the foul, and it usually gets called. Wemby has tried selling the foul, but he doesn’t do it nearly enough for how much he gets fouled. Grabbed, hugged, arms held, jersey pulled on a regular basis.
Bitch I don’t know, go Google it
Exactly
Lmao I don’t know what you think you just did, but try again
What’s wrong with you. Get help
Oh this fuckin guy again
Bro these two for the most part get the living shit beat out of them for their free throws
Edit: but hey SGA is pretty damn good at what he does
We all see them both flailing and falling all over the place, shut the fuck up
Go ahead and keep bitching
I’m going to. Everyone in here blaming the refs like the players aren’t the ones flopping and bitching at them every single play.
Jokic with Shai whistle would average 45
I just watched an hour and a half of flopping, shut the fuck up
Wemby doesn’t consistently have games like this lol, he definitely flopped a bit on the Aaron Gordon trip, but to your point as well, Jokic is crying like a little bitch this game while pushing and flailing his arms everywhere, dude complained about 1 call and the refs overcorrected it by calling 5 straight fouls on the Spurs for him