I think it would make some sense to force teams to give fans partial or even full refunds for a late scratch of top players as well. To make them care it will have to affect their money. Kinda makes a team have to reconsider scratching a healthy superstar the day of the game if they have to give back half their box office for the night. Hell do the same for the tanking teams pulling their best guys for the entire fourth quarter too.

its not just or, its and/or , give players with small injuries a chance without having to sacrifice their body like kobe or dirk.

Dirk Nowitzki:

“I keep thinking whether the last two years in the NBA were really worth it.”

“If I had quit two years earlier, I could probably move better today and play soccer with the kids sometimes. I can’t do that at all now

Minutes do make sense as a supplement.

Yes. Are you giving me an AI explanation?

Yeah I’m sure Cade is shamelessly “sitting out” with that punctured lung of his right now, how dare he am I right?

They’ll continue paying a lot of money to see them sit anyways because of injuries then with how terrible the current schedule with back to backs is. Tell me how that’s supposed to be better.

You’re taking your resentment for old men, a generation of players on their way out anyways like Kawhi and Embiid and applying it to younger players who have never had real availability or laziness issues but deserve to be recognized for some of the best seasons of their careers even if they get banged up on an ankle sprain or some shit for a few weeks

There has to be a compromise where teams and players are still heavily incentivized not to load manage but obvious stars aren’t being kept from awards that everyone can unanimously agree they deserve.

The current system is working as intended, and that’s great. But what people are generally complaining about is that it’s an over correction. You can walk it back a little in some strategic ways without ruining the overall effectiveness of the rule. Especially now with a couple years of data to look at.

Didn’t Wemby literally have his minutes load managed earlier this year? When have Cade or Ant ever had issues with load management or disrespecting fans by sitting too much?

So players should run themselves into the ground to please fans? How about the NBA reduce the total amount of games. There’s no reason to need 82 games and playing one team 4 time.

I don’t think a guy named u/Ant-edwards5 is exactly unbiased in this conversation

I don’t think Murray was ever getting in those conversations in the first place lol

people comparing mvps between lebron and jordan don’t matter. their opinions don’t matter. they aren’t serious people.

It is fine if Ant doesn’t make All-NBA every year

People won’t give you a real answer becuase the caveman emotions that come from the “lazy bums need to stop load managing back in my day yada yada yada” grumpy old unc at the barbershop take overrules all logic whenever this conversation comes up.

It was mostly guys like Kawhi and Embiid (two guys whose knees are made of fucking dust lol) and the entitled millenial 2010s generation of stars that caused this and then the others also ruined everything with the super team stuff. I don’t think I’ve ever seen anybody accusing guys like Shai, Ant, Luka, Tatum, Cade of constantly load managing and ruining the NBA by being lazy. But they’re being punished for the shit the grandpas who are on their way out did.

Right. These younger stars in question are NOT the guys with this issue.

Seems logical to me

Yea. But like you’d still rather have wemby for 64 games than say mobley for 75 right?

Cade has only played 1 season in which he has played more than 65 games. He isnt a guy who plays a ton.

I mean to be fair he is only 24, the guy is only in his 5th season total. He played 64 games, 12, 62, 70, and now 61. This is exactly why I am saying 60 is a bettr cutoff though. A lot of this is legitimately games missed by injury, obviously the one he basically missed the full year was (the left shin fracture).

They can still incentivize players trying to hit 65+ games by the media voting/preferring much more heavily guys who did play 65 games or more - but Jokic having his best form ever for 60 games absolutely should never be left off of All NBA over like, whoever else that is borderline 3rd team this year playing 65. Like come on…

What the hell is you Talmbout

It’s unhealthy to be concerned over someone else’s comment. Hit the down arrow and move on if that’s how you feel.

cool, man

you’re just an anthony edwards stan, all you actually care about is your precious superhero not getting an award that doesn’t actually impact him. he’s still anthony edwards. he’s still a great player. he might still win a championship.

he’s disqualified from 1 all-nba selection?

oh well

1 all NBA selection means nothing for a player of Ant’s caliber. Oh well

tbf that’s like 98% of fans. you are the outlier here.