Wildvalor | Hawks

177 | 13 hours ago

We’ve officially won more games than any Trae Young season (shortened season not included)

Insane stat

vernalagnia | Hawks

27 | 13 hours ago

not really that crazy tbh.

kamekaze1024

46 | 12 hours ago

Insane to all the “Hawks are holding Trae back” people

Maverick_1991 | Hawks

15 | 5 hours ago

I am those people.

To be fair, I still believe we could be in the same spot with Trae instead of CJ.

It’s just that the rest of our team is so much better than before.

Johnson, NAW, Daniels, Okongwu have all taken huge steps

And we have solid role players.

Trae would thrive in a

Trae - Daniels - NAW - Johnson - Okongwu lineup

tnarref | France

19 | 5 hours ago

They’re better because they’re not playing in a heliocentric offense anymore. Playing with Trae is what held these guys back.

floatinround22 | Hawks

10 | 5 hours ago

NAW never played with Trae, Jalen Johnson is still very young and has been steadily improving every season of his career so its not weird to see him continue that trend.

Who was Trae holding back?

tnarref | France

12 | 5 hours ago

Yeah NAW wouldn’t be this good playing with Trae. His usage incresed by 50% from the Wolves to the Hawks, it wouldn’t have if he played with Trae.

He was holding his team back, one player dominating usage that much in his team limits everyone else and puts a celiling on the team’s potential unless the high usage guy is an absolute freak in efficiency.

AgentOfSPYRAL | Lakers

2 | 4 hours ago

Just a shame there wasn’t a player like that they could have drafted when they took Trae.

ATLfalcons27

4 | 3 hours ago

I feel like we get more hate than the first 2 teams that passed. It really does suck though our owner made the Trae move instead of letting the GM do his job

JcGoCrazy- | Lakers

0 | an hour ago

Honestly, the Kings should get the most hate for passing on Luka. I understand the Hawks thought process as this was the emergence Curry’s dominance. Everyone was enamored by the deep 3pt shot

ATLfalcons27

1 | 3 hours ago

I’m starting to think just the narrative out there was impacting the team

SharpsExposure | Spurs

1 | 16 minutes ago

Earlier this year I mentioned that they looked better without Trae and got downvoted into oblivion and quite a few responses about not knowing ball. Trae seems like a nice guy and a great offensive talent but his defense is so atrocious that a team can’t win in the modern NBA playing 4v5 for 36 minutes a game.

I think you’re also spot on about heliocentric ball not working well unless you have Luka Doncic. The best teams in this era move the ball with a motion offense and get open shots for all 5 players.

tnarref | France

1 | 12 minutes ago

I think a season or two ago some people already said it did look that way. Obviously people in the organization figured it out as well.

Not_A_Bot_Am_Human | Spurs

0 | 2 hours ago

I hope future stars see how much Atlanta is willing to live and die for their guy, despite years of evidence that he was placing a ceiling on them.

Maverick_1991 | Hawks

2 | an hour ago

He took us to the ECF where we lost because he got hurt in his third year.

Then we mismanaged the roster and he was hurt a lot.

Bully_Maguire420 | Hawks

4 | 7 hours ago

I don’t think it’s crazy that it happened, I think it’s kinda crazy that it happened this season when we’ve experimented and traded/acquired so many different pieces.

Chessh2036 | Hawks

86 | 13 hours ago

People will just think it’s because of an easy schedule. And yes, the schedule has been much lighter after the break, but the Hawks are playing really good basketball. Regardless of opponent.

tarunpopo

57 | 12 hours ago

Yeah you can’t fake 18-3 that’s incredibly impressive. Johnson deserves an all nba team easily

Bully_Maguire420 | Hawks

24 | 7 hours ago

People downplayed the Pistons win like they aren’t still taking care of business without Cade and they downplayed the Celtics win like they haven’t been down JT all year and are still the #2 seed.

Justalittlejewish | Celtics

8 | 4 hours ago

I was really impressed in both of our games against you guys recently.

Y’all play hard defense and the ball doesn’t stick on offense. I think hawks fans have a lot to look forward to in the future, you seem to have a really awesome young core to build on.

ATLfalcons27

1 | 3 hours ago

Plus non hawks fans don’t understand how often and in what ways we would usually lose these types of games in the past

NoSmellNoTell | Hawks

1 | 31 minutes ago

The schedule point would be way valid if they were winning games by like 5 points but the Hawks haven’t even let most of these games be close.

Kennyc1234 | Wizards

55 | 14 hours ago

The Corey Kispert effect

Maczuna | Hawks

67 | 13 hours ago

this is Gabe Vincent’s team

DaOlWuWopte | ATL

25 | 13 hours ago

Buddy Hield would like a word

GuamSavior | Hawks

29 | 13 hours ago

Kispert still manages to have a negative net rating during a stretch where we only lost 3 games lmao

MrFishAndLoaves | Pelicans

7 | 13 hours ago

The not on the New Orleans Pelicans effect.

ComprehensiveList769 | Hawks

8 | 12 hours ago

Dyson and NAW holding down the fort

not-a-potato-head | Hawks

6 | 10 hours ago

CJ too

BrainsOfMush | Hawks

56 | 13 hours ago

I seriously doubt any of the people talking about schedule also realize how different our roster is post trades. McCollum, Jock, Kuminga, Vincent have been huge for us. McCollum and Jock especially have been absolutely transformative.

Tigerskippy | Hawks

1 | 2 hours ago

Ive been running around correcting everyone i can about the Kuminga-KP trade. Kuminga is nice to have as a backup 4 (especially here in the land of the The Body and the Minivan of last year), but the real change was bringing in Jock to play legit, solid, grown man minutes at the backup 5. Hes just been more valuable than KP coming in and out of the lineup no matter how good KP was when he did play.

FoundationSmooth9777

46 | 13 hours ago

NAW should be most improved it’s actually insane seeing his growth one more off season with Sga and he’s an all star

Nuclearsunburn | Heat

23 | 13 hours ago

I know they’re division rivals but I’m riding with that bandwagon once we are eliminated.

Nnamdi Vincent is one of my favorite former Heat players, I’ve also greatly admired CJ McCollum and love to see Kuminga, NAW, and Hield coming together here along with Jalen Johnson and Okongwu, not a huge Dyson guy but that’s okay.

It’s like an island of misfit toys that’s coming together, I think Quin Snyder deserves some 2nd - 3rd place COTY votes after Mazzulla. Way more impressed with what Mazz and Quin have done than the more popular picks like Charles Lee or Mitch Johnson

PressureMiserable | Spurs

-20 | 7 hours ago

I’m like 99% sure the hawks are gonna fall back down to earth be mid and somehow get eliminated in the play in, so I don’t think you’ll be on the bandwagon for long

Successful_Many641 | Lakers

15 | 6 hours ago

ur not getting that pick bro

PressureMiserable | Spurs

-18 | 6 hours ago

I mean, the pick is ours no matter what. It’s really just up to how good the pick will be, and I’ll believe in the eternal mid that the Hawks historically can’t escape from. Plus, it’s better for everyone if we get to pick in front of okc trust me

Nuclearsunburn | Heat

8 | 4 hours ago

Nah, you’ve had quite enough draft luck for the next 30 years, thanks

5livewire0 | Hawks

5 | 3 hours ago

Spurs fans are so annoying

FieryTitmouse55 | Hawks

6 | 3 hours ago

Wishful thinking buddy😂

BelgianMcWaffles

2 | 3 hours ago

If Landale is out for a week or two then Atlanta could absolutely go 2-3 over their final 5 games. Atlanta’s magic number for the 6 seed is 4. So they would need Philly and Toronto to lose 2 games.

Philly has Minnesota, Detroit, and San Antonio over the next five days, so they could absolutely lose two of those. Toronto has Boston, Miami x2, and New York coming up, so again 2 losses is possible.

So even if Atlanta falls off, it could be tough for these teams to catch them in time.

ahend1999 | Hawks

22 | 14 hours ago

hells yea

FireworkFuse | Hawks

22 | 13 hours ago

Onsi has done miracles on me

not_so_bueno | Rockets

5 | 3 hours ago

And Snyder clearly never had the right personnel until now.

Deviljho12 | Celtics

20 | 13 hours ago

Pretty clear that moving on from Trae was the right move.

ahend1999 | Hawks

26 | 12 hours ago

unfortunately yes 💔 ill never forget him tho

HamlnHand | Hawks

20 | 11 hours ago

Schedule this schedule that. I have watched regularly my adult life and I’ve never seen a Hawks team look as skilled on both sides of the ball since 2015-2016

Aidanator800 | Hornets

2 | 10 hours ago

Not even the 2021 team that made the conference finals?

dat_boy_lurks | Hawks

17 | 8 hours ago

With all due respect, Capela hard carried our defense that year, as evidenced by the fact we went right back to mid once he regressed

This team has at least 2-3 plus defenders on the floor at any given time – we’re no Detroit but stingy defense hasn’t been something you related to Atlanta basketball until very recently

HamlnHand | Hawks

7 | 4 hours ago

Easily including that team. They relied on 2 huge things- Clint Capela being in his prime and healthy playing amazing defense, and teams not knowing how to game plan for Trae in the playoffs yet.

qotsabama | DAL

3 | 2 hours ago

This team is definitely playing better. 2021 was a fluke.

Burner_420_burner_69 | Hawks

1 | 2 hours ago

Winning a 7 game series against a healthy team is never a fluke.

PressureMiserable | Spurs

-10 | 7 hours ago

I mean that team didn’t exactly play great, the teams they faced just collapsed, Randle looked like a gleaguer and embiid got his ass spanked every game by Cappella and Collins along with doc rivers being doc rivers and having 2 horrible ft shooters in at the end of a pivotal final game of the series

GangGreen7729 | Hawks

12 | 5 hours ago

Generational hater

PressureMiserable | Spurs

0 | 5 hours ago

It’s not hating it’s true. The same thing happened to the Grizzlies in 2013. okc collapsed cus of injuries, so the Grizzlies beat them, and then the clippers again with doc rivers did the same thing as the sixers, lost to a team they clearly could’ve beaten cus their stars just choked their best chance to get to a conference finals

GangGreen7729 | Hawks

5 | 5 hours ago

Well yeah maybe not this take specifically but you’re all over this thread because you’re salty we bounced back from the Dejounte trade

PressureMiserable | Spurs

-1 | 5 hours ago

I’m not salty at all dude I made one other comment lmao

KL2ConspireLLC | San Diego Clippers

10 | 13 hours ago

Failing at being .500

Outrageous-Maybe-200 | Nuggets

4 | 12 hours ago

Ngl if they had current Porzingis on their team they’d be so deadly. Obviously though Porzingis is a big IF cause of health reasons.

Tigerskippy | Hawks

2 | an hour ago

Yeah he was extremely good but id rather have Jock play 90% of the games than KP 35% or whatever. Combined with our 3rd center having a season ending injury its what tanked us in the first half. Kept having to put Mo Gueye and Asa, both skinny power forwards, out there on defense and got killed on rebounds every single game

Outrageous-Maybe-200 | Nuggets

1 | 18 minutes ago

Idk what allowed him to play 10 games in March lol

CrippledBanana | Canada

1 | 23 minutes ago

He was insane when he played for the hawks. Issue is he only played like 5 games or something. Kinda a sad situation but landale is a beast

GinyuForce1

1 | an hour ago

Jalen Johnson is one of my favorite players, him being available, and NAW taking a huge leap has helped ATL for sure.

Armanewb | Spurs

-3 | 11 hours ago

https://www.nba.com/stats/teams/advanced?SeasonSegment=Post%20All-Star&dir=A&sort=NET_RATING

This has them at third behind the Spurs and Hornets.

primepierce34 | BOS

-2 | 11 hours ago

Addition by subtraction. Trae’s gaudy points and assists numbers overshadowed the fact that he’s a terrible defender, not that efficient, and didn’t do jack off ball

ATLfalcons27

3 | 3 hours ago

Overall I agree but Trae also didn’t really play this season when we were playing the hawks basketball we’re used to.

Obviously he was a massive defensive liability when playing but I’m starting to think just the narrative of all of that impacted the team as well. I know we added a few pieces at the deadline but the turnaround defensively is crazy in a season where Trae wasn’t the reason we were bad defensively because he wasn’t playing

TheMilkmanRidesAgain | Hawks

1 | 2 hours ago

He didn’t play this year man

C-Jammin | Hawks

0 | 4 hours ago

I don’t know why you’re being downvoted. Nothing you said is untrue.

TyposIncoming | Lakers

-15 | 13 hours ago

From what I can see at the all star break the Hawks had a top 10 strength of schedule and post have had a significantly easier schedule.

jdelane1 | Hawks

38 | 13 hours ago

In previous years we woulda lost many of those games because mid is eternal

AcrobaticFeedback

-25 | 13 hours ago

The Hawks have been really good but lets call it what it is, most of their wins are against bad opponents. Their 2 major wins was beating Detroit in OT without Cade and Boston on a road B2B. Reminds me of the Cavs the last couple of years that would go on these 17 game win streaks and would be the champs of beating shit teams.

But in saying that, if beating shit teams was that easy, everyone would be doing it.

Chessh2036 | Hawks

26 | 13 hours ago

That Pistons team has looked really good without Cade. And Boston is Boston.

Also this is the same team that went 0-3 vs the Bulls this year 😂 so progress is being made lol.

TheFlying | Hawks

17 | 13 hours ago

Yeah you’re right it’s so trivial tonwin 90% of your basketball games. Easy really. Sure we beat 3 of the last 4 playoff teams but does that even COUNT really? Honestly they should just pack it in and give up smh. I mean beating the kings? Who couldn’t beat the kings? I mean besides the team we are looking to pass in the standings currently of course

AcrobaticFeedback

-10 | 13 hours ago

No need to get emotional. I accept that the Hawks have improved, will be a good 5 seed, I’m just saying don’t jump on the contender bandwagon yet. They still need to prove they can consistently beat good teams which they havent. They also lost to Boston and got smoked by the Rockets. Which means they 2-2 against bonafide playoff teams in that stretch.

My point is the Cavs did the exact same thing in 23, went on a stretch where they won ¹⁷⁄₁₈ against mostly tanking teams, everyone crowned them Eastern Conference champs and they lost in the 1st round in 5.

DaOlWuWopte | ATL

15 | 13 hours ago

Making the proper playoffs and not the play-in is a success in my book considering the huge shakeup. No one is calling them contenders. The most extreme optimists are saying the hawks might make a bit of noise in the playoffs

AcrobaticFeedback

-2 | 13 hours ago

Definitely not arguing with that. could easily see the Hawks making a run in the playoffs.

But my whole comments point was saying that the Hawks aren’t contenders and it is getting downvoted, so to me that suggests a bunch of people disagree.

ATLfalcons27

2 | 3 hours ago

Brother unless you’re falling for hawks sub memes we know we’re not contenders this year. All we’re saying is it feels like we are now the team in the east the top seeds would gladly avoid

Area51_Spurs | Spurs

-35 | 13 hours ago

League Conspiracy to keep another top pick from San Antonio

greenie7680 | ATL

21 | 11 hours ago

Good god y’all are insufferable as fuck.

Just be happy with yet another generational talent that fell into your lap and quit bitching about getting an “only okay” swap with us.

People like you give your fan base a shit name.

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-11 | 11 hours ago

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BrettSchirley22 | Hawks

12 | 11 hours ago

Jokes are suppose to be funny

Area51_Spurs | Spurs

-11 | 11 hours ago

lol. Butt hurt as always

Bully_Maguire420 | Hawks

10 | 6 hours ago

Muuuh huuuuh derrr Spurs need another #1 pick, hilarious right everybody? We’re just so quirky. Heeeee duurr.

TheMilkmanRidesAgain | Hawks

1 | 2 hours ago

shut up

Area51_Spurs | Spurs

-1 | 2 hours ago

lol

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