Billy Donovan on the Bulls cutting ties with Jaden Ivey: “Organizationally, there’s certain standards I think we want to have as an organization and live up to those each and every day.”
“Listen, man. I’m just waiting until I can announce I’m leaving to coach UNC.”
Man already mentally packed his bags 😭
Shit, he might have already physically packed his bag and just waiting for the call
Donovan is my GOAT (UF alum) but I think UNC is gonna look at someone younger plus I think the NBA tanked Donovan’s rep and NIL has basically made college the nba with way more added responsibilities (still have to recruit guys AND re-recruit the guys you already have!).
The odds moved from Tommy Lloyd and Donovan a in dead heat earlier today, to Donovan at 60% now. So tons of money came in on Donovan to land the job in the last few hours. People in the know bet tons of money. Baring some last minute conflict it looks like Donovan is going to UNC.
I just want to say that if Donovan goes to UNC, then please, for the love of God, Chicago, don’t hire Iowa State’s coach for the 3rd freaking time. It doesn’t work.
LOL, T.J. won’t leave this year.
Johnnie Bryant would be a good get.
Doc Rivers might need a job this summer.
That washed school is gonna ruin my GOAT’s rep 💔
They got the money to be a winner again. Donovan can win there.
But I hate UNC so I don’t want that.
UNC cares about the age of their head coach?
“This is terrible and I’m glad he was expelled… wait, I mean waived.”
I thought that was Brad Stevens?
He shut that down the day after Hubert was axed
Right but you gotta make him say no right? Maybe even a couple of times
Gotta get a few free dinners and then shut it down.
FWIW, I don’t know why he’d want to coach the Bulls if he got a good offer from UNC. The Bulls ownership have shown they zero interest in winning, they just want to be a .500 team and stay under the tax.
I’m a Butler grad and people in Indiana still throw his name around every time the IU coaching job opens up. That dude may never coach again and certainly not in the NCAA.
People that think he would ever give up running a premier NBA team to go work with parents and boosters are off their rockers.
If Zionsville high calls. He picks up the phone. Let’s not lie to ourselves
You bite your fucking tongue
What a wild day that would be.
Why would he choose college coaching over NBA?
Let’s hear the man out then in that case
Goddamn. This mf aged 10 years over 5. Stressing his ass out.
Can you blame him? He left Florida as a perennial front runner for nba mediocrity
I doubt he’s upset. He could’ve had any number of top college jobs all these years he’s been in the NBA.
I’m pretty sure he’s been exactly where he wants to be.
this my read too. Chicago is a great city to live in. I think he likes it there and the challenge of growing a good team (tho ownership vs recruiting makes that different in the NBA)
Dude just signed an extension too if I’m not mistaken lol
Chicago is great 5 months out of the year lol the other 7 are brutal weather conditions
Maybe 7 months if you’re a southerner but it’s really only cold for about 4-5 months.
bro it was snowing in April** last year when I was there💀. things didn’t really get nice until end of May/beginning of June
It was 70 degrees in Chicago today brudda. The winters have been really mild the last couple of years if You can tolerate putting a coat on for two months and the odd April snow for a day you’ll do fine lol. Let’s not pretend that Chicago is some crazy inhabitable tundra lol
Don’t look up the weather for the 7 days before and the next 7 days if you want to be convinced by this. Today was amazing, but our weather still sucks for a long portion of the year.
everybody parroted this lie to me about “mild winters” before I moved there and found out the truth lmao idk why you guys get so defensive about this shit😭. it’s ok to just admit that the majority of the year is brutal.
“coat on for 2 months.” no way you just wrote that with a straight face lmfao. try coat on for 7 months.
Let them talk. I agree with you. Need less people moving to Chicago anyway.
Hope everyone continue to think it’s a crime ridden tundra 🤣
It’s such a crazy decision in hindsight. Man thought he was leaving the school he won 2 natties at to coach prime KD. Ended up only getting one year with him and his coaching career has been a nightmare ever since. I don’t think he’s even won a playoff series since 2016
Phil Jacksons book really broke down the differences.
The type of person you need to lead a man, is different then the one you need to develop a boy into one.
What back-to-back play in season finishes does to a man
Bro needs to move to Lexington and get that 10 million a year and live better.
Bro I thought the same. As a Thunder fan this dude looking 20 years older since he left okc ……
coaching the bulls for 3 years turned billy donovan into joe biden
“Will you shut up, man?” - Billy Donovan to Jaden Ivey
Buncha mularkey.
Build back better.
well I’ll tell ya what– anyway!
His finest hour. His dentist’s too.
gonna be his 7th year brah
lord have mercy
What the fuck is happening
I really hope Ivey can get help right now. Behavior like this is indicative of deeper problems and I hope it doesn’t lead to the worst outcomes.
Religious people never change their minds. What “help” are you thinking of?
I’m more concerned about the obvious psychosis than I am the religious zealotry
Right. Mental breakdowns usually involve some religion or superpower/higher being type rants. Its not the religion or the spiritual, its the disconnect from reality
What about it is obviously psychosis lol. Is it not fathomable that someone who functionally dropped out of school when he was like 11 might just be susceptible to religious fanaticism? He’s an idiot. Like, probably handicapped by a number of real metrics. He’s traumatized, and now he’s rich and thinks god is real—he’s not scribbling fake equations on his walls or claiming to be the messiah. He’s just dumb and fucked up. Bulls ain’t fixing that.
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Buddy, I’ve got news for you about most serious religious people in basically 70% of the country. I grew up in liberal-as-can-be Portland, and still went to church where the entire congregation would be speaking in tongues during service lol. These are extremely not functional minds.
Can you expand? I am not sure how you separate religious zealotry from psychosis. To me, religious zealotry is both the driver of psychosis, and one of the ways that psychosis can express itself.
People are saying he had a “religious psychotic breakdown” though as far as I can tell he didn’t say anything that you don’t hear on Fox News or your local fundamentalist church.
Its not what he said which is very ignorant. It’s the fact that his thoughts on IG seem very disorganized and he’s just rambling nonsense. He was talking about fruits and vegetables being sinful. He seems disassociated with reality. That’s a sign of severe mental illness. I hope people around him get him help cause the cold reality is he won’t help himself if he has schizophrenia or some other severe mental illness. Ivey probably thinks he’s totally fine and normal right now.
Religious psychotic breakdowns is exactly what I’d describe what I’ve heard from Fox News and my local fundamentalist church so that tracks
He called out Catholicism too as being a false religion. Guy managed to piss off all sides
Ivey’s always been super religious and most religions are unfortunately homophobic. I don’t think he had a meltdown at all, this is just who he is and what he believes
lol when I was watching that video I was thinking to myself it’s kinda sad how he sounds like the people in office RUNNING THIS COUNTRY right now
To be fair, I don’t think the people running this country are mentally stable either
Someone posted a podcast here him saying he got abused and shit but he clearly grew up in a very religious home (and his mom is a religious nut) and he is one too
Idk why people want to do this and act like every extremely religious person doesn’t have these beliefs lmao you don’t need a psychosis for it
Believing in religion in a very literal sense is almost a self induced psychosis depending on how intensely you genuinely think it’s real lol
When it’s taken to a literal level, I feel like there’s some level of psychological trauma at work. I was raised in a Catholic home and none of them view judgement day as anything other than symbolic at best. Meanwhile he seems like he’s preparing for it.
You’ve met hundreds, if not thousands of religious people in your life and 99.9% of them don’t sound like this
You need to come to the American South. You’d be shocked at how common his opinion is
they’re all kind of… special… down here
Most people in America that consider themselves Catholic only do so because they come from Catholic families tbf. The amount of self identified Christian’s that regularly attend church and don’t report major contradicting views with their beliefs such as evolution theory, is far lower than you’d think.
The fact that they didn’t say it doesn’t mean they don’t agree. You can look at polling on things like same sex marriage among different groups, including religious groups. You should do it.
Bro the homophobia is a small part of this. The dude sounds like he is having a psychotic break. Yeah, some people don’t want there to be a pride month, they still dont sound like Jaden Ivey has over the last several days.
I’m not saying he’s mentally stable. I am saying his opinions on homosexuality are exceedingly unlikely to change, and that’s what he got booted for.
I really doubt thats what he got booted for tbh. If he could form coherent sentences and did the whole Fox News thing they would not boot him. If Kornet wanted to take the leap into Conservative Influencerdom we all see coming, I do not believe he would be immediately waived. He may not be resigned once his contract is up
His problem is not religion. That’s just a symptom of where he is at. It would be something else in a month. He’s very ill.
He ranted about fruits and vegetables of all thing. He also implied he was sexually abused as a kid before.
Yeah, he’s not alright.
This just isn’t true at all. Pretty much anybody at a low point in life can fall into religious psychosis. I knew someone that had it a few years ago that is extremely critical of Christianity now
It is not super uncommon for people with an underlying behavioral disorder to have a psychotic episode where they focus on religion. My wife is an MD student and rotated through Psychiatry a year ago and she had several patients like that
What percentage of people that harbor homophobic sentiments that they justify with religion do you genuinely think are having psychotic episodes?
Well it’s less that he’s being homophobic and more the nature of how it came out. Going on multiple rambling rants online in a very short period of time when I’m sure many people in his life are telling him this will impact his career massively is probably indicative of a behavioral disorder. Looked like a manic episode to me
I’m not claiming he’s mentally healthy. I’m claiming that he almost certainly had those opinions about homosexuality before, and he almost certainly will continue to. If my comment made it seem like he doesn’t need any type of mental help then I apologize. What I was trying to say is that he’s never going to change his mind about the thing that got him booted.
Look he very well could be 100% fine and just be extremely homophobic and vocal about it. Who knows
Religious people never change their minds.
That’s demonstrably not correct, although it is rarer than it ought to be.
What “help” are you thinking of?
Education. There are reasons why organized religions all over the planet fight against education at every opportunity. Educated people are less likely to believe in God, Jesus, the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, and other fairy tales.
Maybe some religions or groups but not all. The first universities, particularly in Europe, were started by the Catholic Church. The oldest one still in operation, University of Bologna, is almost 1000 years old. Copernicus being one of its famous students and a giant in scientific history.
started by the Catholic Church… University of Bologna…
Nope.
The university arose around mutual aid societies (known as universitates scholarium) of foreign students called “nations” (as they were grouped by nationality) for protection against city laws which imposed collective punishment on foreigners for the crimes and debts of their countrymen. These students then hired scholars from the city’s pre-existing lay and ecclesiastical schools to teach them subjects such as liberal arts, notarial law, theology, and *ars dictaminis* (scrivenery).^([17]) The lectures were given in informal schools called scholae. In time the various *universitates scholarium* decided to form a larger association, or *Studium*—thus, the university. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Bologna
They can, actually
Even religious people can change their mind at times. Believe it or not, they are humans too.
He’s obviously having some sort of mental breakdown.
As is every single person that believes that a book is infallible.
Ok? The guy is clearly going through some mental crisis and you’re fixated on religion for some reason. Who gives a fuck weirdo?
I’m a weirdo for being disgusted by bigotry?
Ivey sounds NO DIFFERENT than millions and millions of religious people in this country sound if they voice their actual opinions.
Pride month is gay. He’s just making the point.
Unfortunately, in 2026 with the information and online environment being what it is, it’s far more likely that Ivey will just become an unhinged right wing podcast/talk show guest
Well, he cannot get a help now after being tossed like that from the NBA.
I’m far from agreeing with what Ivey said, but players did far worse things and they weren’t treated this way.
This isn’t how you educate someone, especially when he mentions he is depressed.
Edit: You guys can downvote me, but I’ve helped people who were depressed, who hit rock bottom in life, people who even had horrific views about diffierent groups. You’ll only make one more radical, rather than more tolerant (with the approach chose by the Bulls).
Ivey has 3+ years of NBA service, which makes him eligible for lifetime health insurance, I believe. He probably considers doctors to be agents of the devil, or something, so who knows if he will accept any help, but such is likely to be available to him.
what help do you imagine he needs? he’s rich as fuck i find it hard to imagine being cut from the bulls is removing his access to mental health treatment, if that’s what you think he needs
Man if you judged by the comments on YouTube you would be forgiven for thinking the Bulls crucified Jaden Ivey in front of a live crowd
The religious freaks really came out in force in any video related to Jaden Ivey.
I saw a comment quote scripture: “If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first” to defend Ivey hating a group of people lol
It’s a very applicable verse in this case
I still remember Justin Timberlake’s No Angels music video.
All other videos about that song had people claiming it’s the best song from the album, and yet that one had everyone screaming that Timberlake’s a satanist instead. Despite the video’s barely that controversial, way less than something like many MVs from NIN.
Yeah, this one’s no different.
he also shit on catholics, yknow the religion with over a billion followers and have a large presence in chicago, that alone would be enough for a release
He’ll likely leverage this to make more than he made in the league
He’s not making millions from podcasts
Riley Gaines has likely made millions monetizing being a victim of the “woke left.” Shiloh Hendrix made 700k overnight for calling a kid the n word. Theses people are nuts. If he’s smart and depraved enough he could absolutely make a killing. He’s black though so he’s got that going against him.
If anyone believes even half the comments on social media come from humans, they need to take a beat from the internet.
As a gay guy who grew up in a normal Catholic household, this is an example of what I have long called religious extremism. THIS is what true indoctrination looks like, he’s so far gone. The same politicians who are passing bills restricting what K-12 and even college kids can and can’t learn in school are some of the biggest cancers on our society because they parrot this and worse.
Yeah, his video is what LOADS of mainstream Christian’s believe.
Its not mainstream bro. He was talking about different vegetables being sinful
Made the mistake of clicking a link to the Instagram post for this story…and my god what a horrifying place.
I know we all rightfully shit on Reddit, but at least made me appreciate some basketball dialogue not rampant with religious homophobia.
This is also why the upvote and downvote system in reddit works well
Those comments get engagement on Instagram or Facebook and will always be at the top
Nah foreal, the upvote and downvote system has its problems and can be pretty hive-mindish in some communities, but not being able to downvote the most stupid and vile comments in other comment sections just makes it look like a bunch of people agree with the horrible thing that person is saying and that it’s ok to say it. Instagram is particularly bad for this I feel like, which is why Reels comment sections are such cesspools.
Twitter was a shit hole too in like 10 seconds after Shams tweeted it. That platform was already shit before but they really ruined it.
And then you have the dozens of dummies asking “well what about freedom of speech” as if we didn’t just have a crisis with employers firing people for speech about 7 months ago.
But you see, that was different.
That was people being fired for speech Republicans don’t like.
This is speech they do. That means the ‘First Amendment/free speech absolutist’ (self-described) crowd wakes up all of a sudden.
“We can’t have our players condemning people that literally work here, other player family members, and the city of Chicago at large…. so he had to go”.
That’s what you want your organization to PROCLAIM.
Let’s be honest…if Ivey was a stud they would have ignored it. He’s a fringe player and expendable.
I wouldn’t call him a stud, but he was a #5 overall pick just a couple years ago, and before his knee injury, was averaging around 15 points and 4 assists a game. He was traded for a first-round pick and multiple players only last month.
That’s not a “fringe player”, unless he cannot recover from that injury.
I mean, Ant Edwards was spewing homophobic hatred a couple years back and he just got a slap on the wrist.
His stats were much better than I expected. Only 4 games for bulls, but they’re nice numbers.
That’s objectively true, and we all know it. If he was Shai, and he said something even worse, the Bulls ain’t doing shit about it, Billy Donovan would be like “what comments, oh I didn’t see what Shai said I would need to look into it but its not important right now”
People care about mental health to the extent that it falls into acceptable outlets. Very often people admonish people having a mental health crisis when it doesnt look pretty. I dont know what the line should be but I dont think wiping your hands clean as an organisation is the right call.
Really well said. I’ve suffered through three psychotic episodes and that has been my experience. There is a good chance this guy doesn’t actually believe the things he is saying right now. Taking them at face value is wrong. Part of me wonders if cutting him loose is even legal as he clearly has an obvious disability
I’m a psychiatrist and see this all the time. It has become en vogue to talk about your depression and anxiety openly, which is cool, but real deal psychosis or mania? Those people are getting shunned by society.
Love people in here acting like Ivey was spouting fringe beliefs whilst the actual Christian public is fully on his side 😂
Same Christians that keep supporting a child graper. Make it all make sense
Maybe spend two seconds paying attention and realize he’s having a mental health crisis.
Love it but also wanna see the same energy to domestic abusers
The same energy is given…but if you’re good enough it’s overlooked. Ivey isn’t so he’s fured
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As a Tar Heel thank god. Free my boy Cole from slander
He was a hero, I just couldn’t see it.
That’s pretty fucked up, yikes
Hope he gets the help he needs
I don’t think they’re gonna give Billy Donovan any good players to help him out
”…and no those standards do not include winning basketball.”
I wish they would be honest and just say he’s not good enough to be worth the headache. If he was good, he would still be on the team even after the comments.
It’s not the Bulls specifically either, it’s a league wide problem.
Who’s the domestic abuser on the Bulls?
You’d feel better if they were cool with homophobia?
I mean, pretty much everyone will agree that guys like Miles Bridges should be told to fuck off and never come back. That doesn’t make homophobia fine either.
Homophobia is ok as long as you don’t say it out loud. These teams don’t care.
Also Ivey literally admitted to abusing his gf
It doesn’t but it isn’t a standards thing from the league. The people might not condone it but this pathetic ass league pretending it does is insufferable. Although, this is most big business
I don’t reallly see why the league backs Miles Bridges he’s an ok player but do they really think all the bad publicity is worth it to support a scumbag like him? Quite bizarre
Nothing to do with that, it’s cos he’s not good enough to be worth the headache
The Bulls are an organization in the league with their own standards.
“I want to get paid Bob and the pedophiles paying me would not like my real thoughts.”
Roasted
Bruv, the NBA has woman beaters. These things depend entirely on how valuable you are to the team
Billy should not be coaching nba
I guess he should have put his Pride to the side haha
the scariest thing is that majority of people thinks he’s right supported by the voices of facebook, yt, etc….
the dude was having a manic episode lol
He’s the most NHL looking NBA coach ever. Iykyk
How long has he been blonde??
meanwhile Miles Bridges still exists
D Rose
He’s turning into Fred Hoiberg
he’s going to take Nebraska to the Sweet 16??!?
Fuck Cole Anthony
Billy looks like he’s wearing a White Sox clubhouse attendant quarter zip
lol.
Billy Donovan said he hopes Ivey is OK. IMO that’s a lie. If he really hoped he was ok, he would have reached out to him and tried to help him before the Bulls organization just decided to wash their hands of him.
The standard generally consists only of ‘don’t make the team look like utter morons for employing you’, at the risk of being cynical.
Billy Donovan is still with the Bulls?! This dude could’ve been a legendary college coach
“Each and everyday”…… we’ve sucked since D Rose …
Good. He gets to decide who’s a real Christian? Thought that was gawds job?
Better than saying “he sucks and is crazy now.”
The Bulls suck. Who cares.
Without knowing anything else that’s happened leading up to this, if this is what it looks like, a mental health crisis, then it’s a bad look for the Bulls the way they are handling it.
But that’s also just life sometimes when someone is behaving erratically and causing damage in their life. Hopefully Ivey has a good support system that can get him real help.
Depression usually follows an episode like this.
isnt josh giddey—yknow what nvm
The Giddler was tricked by the chick he was with, she snuck into the bar while being under 18
And yet Bridges is still allowed to play in the NBA after nearly killing a woman? Please, the NBA and the butthurt fans over are a bunch of snowflake bitches. This is nothing compared to what Bridges did.
Newsflash: almost every male athlete is homophobic. So why hasn’t the NBA cut ties with every player? Lmao. I guarantee if he was an all star player, he would still be on the team. It’s only bc he’s a no name guy that he got cut in the name of “certain standards” bullshit.
The real question is why theres pride game and who wants it? Not the players and not people who watch the nba wants it
can he ball tho
Not anymore :/
I wonder if they’ll reach out and offer help if he wants it. That seems to be more the forgiving way than a straight release. I wonder if the league will step in and ban him for life.
Still no explation on why sexual orientation need to be pushed in the nba
They’re taking the opportunity to virtue signal instead of being honest about mental health.
Idk man I don’t think religious psychosis should inherently get you fired. Like I think what ANT said was worse than what Ivey said bc at least with Ivey it seems mental health related
I say this as a gay man so I’m not a fan of homophobia but I’ve also seen family members go thru religious psychosis and they become pretty different people
if an athlete’s production doesn’t outweigh any type of psychosis they’re probably just gonna cut ties
True, but that’s a different argument.
Standards? Oh ya being mid year after year and being a terribly ran organization