Yeah he’s not a Luka guy that’s pretty clear

Looking at his voting Luka is the hugely low outlier

This guy is gonna put Jokic… 5th?

This is exactly why you guys shouldn’t care this much about the MVP.

It’s a subjective award voted on by idiots! There is actual basketball being played, focus on that and not the popularity contest on the periphery.

It’s a fucking disgrace.

You guys care way too much about litigating each voter’s opinions

The problem with letting ‘journalists’ decide who the MVP is the fact that they’re just fans that really don’t know or understand basketball any more than the next guy. I’m not convinced that they actually watch that many games either.

Blake Griffin mentioned 🎉🎉🎉

Yeah, I’m sorry, but if you vote for Jalen Brown for MVP over SGA, Luka, Wemby and Jokic, you deserve to lose your vote for future years. That’s malpractice.

I’m not saying this is okay but Stephen A Smith has never voted for Jokic to win an MVP. Every player has alot of voters that hate them and there isn’t anything you can do unless you take away their vote.

Lots of voters are just as egregious and lack any consistent criteria or arguments to defend their position.

His top two votes being harden and jokic is objectively hilarious.

This isn’t harden or jokic hate, but c’mon

Saying a dude who’s team wins 88% of the games he misses is the MVP is a travesty.

Sorry, he voted for Randle for MVP at some point in time?

Reputation can be hard to shake. Luka is no Harden on defense, but he gets put in the same box because of the 2023 Finals

the opinion of a guy in the basketball hall of fame is a moron and the redditors on r/nba are superior

Personally I would not vote Luka MVP, but to pretend he doesn’t have a damn good case is laughable. Like if YOU 🫵 have Luka as your MVP I don’t think you’re wrong at all, he’s incredibly deserving of it and the numbers back that up, why pretend they don’t???

Maybe the Nba should also look into the way major awards are being voted and by whom. I think that it needs a little shake up as well.

I mean, it’s definitely a bad take, but Brown should probably be the 5th member on the first team. Coaches and players opinions are even less critical, so we know that wouldn’t work. I do think it should be specialists in the sport, not generalists like Wilbon.

I know it’s crazy to think about - but other people can disagree with your basketball takes 😮

Wilbon has forgotten more basketball than most of us will ever have, so makes sense he has an mvp vote. Everyone’s got preferences and he doesn’t value what Luka does as much as other people do - so what?

Jaylen Brown has been mad underrated this season though. It has to be said.

Wilbon’s point is legtimate. Most people felt the Celtics would be a regular .500 teach maybe. the fact they are as high as they are its impressive. I still think its Shai due to team record and the amount of games missies due to injuries. The Thunder have been an alltime great team with Chet missing 50 games last year and JDub missing 45 this year. No other mvp candidate has done that. Yes the thunder are a good team without him. They are also the best team with him.

Why you are using a take on Ja FROM 3 YEArs ago in december is hilarious, you’re goofy.

Sure, there will be a few voters who don’t uses common sense.

Bet you he voted for the likes of Allen Iverson and Steve Nash in the past though

What an embarrassment.

NBA being A player first fandom is a disease

Hell yeah let’s go jb

MVP literally means nothing I don’t know why yall care about it so much

Jaylen deserves some love fr, can’t be mad at him getting one vote. He’s obviously not going to win.

Because Harden is known for his defense…

I honestly hate NBA awards more than any other sport, they seem to be completely narrative driven and once one gets ahold in the main talking heads that’s it.

By what you’ve shared it’s obvious that they just use whatever justification they want for the player they personally like to be MVP. Just some consistency would be nice.

If a voter insists that a player has to be effective both ways then that’s fine but they should use that each year not flip flop so whoever they want can be chosen.

FWIW Luka is currently top 10 in steals per game this year and is playing decent defence (not claiming he’s all defence or anything) but because of how many games there are in the NBA the voters can’t watch them all so just go with this narrative as they’re unlikely to be called out by other media if they go along with it.

There is also a significant bias against European players but again that doesn’t really get called out by media types.

Where is that graphic which shows Luka beats JB in almost all defense stats and metrics this year? How can one reasonably say this after looking at that comparison? This is so outrageous, reputation really is everything, even if it’s totally false.

I know this is gonna be a hot take, but I’ve said with baseball, if you repeatedly vote for guys for the hall of fame who get less than like 5%, you should have your vote suspended for a bit. I like thinking outside the box, but if you’re always outside the box, you might not know what you’re talking about

If fans stopped caring about these awards and the hot take merchants, these people will straighten the fuck up immediately. Sure, guys like SAS or Perkins will be out of job (the later possibly go homeless) but that’s the price for authenticity.

Don’t see why someone would vote Jaylen Brown 1st unless they just wanted to draw misdirected anger towards him from the worst fans for some reason

His top two players don’t play a lick of defense.

Also, how are the points distributed for 1st, 2nd, 3rd etc?

I don’t hate on the votre tbh it’s tight, and the other 3 been killing. Justification is ass considering you’ve been voting for Harden tho

Boomers shouldn’t get a vote

Well he certainly sounds like someone who doesn’t know basketball very well.

Who cares brother. MVP talk is some of the lowest form of conversation right now and the media has got fans wrapped around their finger by constantly raising the discussion.

To be honest, Wilbon and Kornheiser have always been more entertaining than knowledgeable.

Luka is 10th in steals, no one else is MVP race is in top 20

OP is a lakers fan for sure

This is the reason why MVP/media votes accolades are stupid.

And why Steph’s unanimous is stupid.

And why that vs LeBron not having a unanimous I stupid.

And why guys like MJ and LeBron each not having 6-8 MVPs is stupid.

So what I’m saying is media voting is stupid.

But moreover, why are all accolades not coach-votes? 3 votes for each coach, can’t vote for your own team.

MVP voting age should be cut off at 60

Coaches should be the voters on everything

Abolish MVP and just merge it with FMVP

Someone doesn’t agree with you. Fucking grow up

I agree with you mostly. But Harden is like GP when compared to Doncic.

Wilbon’s an idiot, bro has a vote for Isaiah Thomas at one point lol.

Wilson has made a very nice living being a fucking moron for decades.

Redditor shits on one of the best nba sports journalists of all time bc they disagree with their MVP take - peak reddit.

I think harden votes were fine. Harden played on the most heliocentric team of the 2010s and the rockets were 1st place in the west regular season often when the warriors were at their peak. The lakers and Luka are having a great season, but they have t5th best record in the league and could easily finish 8th (by record in the league).

He seems to reward dudes that CARRY their team, and rewards team success far more than the avg redditor. Also, the lakers were expected to do well, where as the Celtics people were coming into the season with a mindset they might peak out at around .500, but could be in contention to be a ‘blow it up’ team like the pacers this year. Even as a biased Celtics fan I don’t think Brown should be in the top 3 mvp votes, but I can understand the argument given his team success combined with his impact and improvement this season.

A couple months ago everyone was talking about how luka doesnt get back on d because hes bitching at the refs and now luka stan nephs want to pretend that doesnt happen.  To me, luka is clearly below sga/jokic/wemby.  Jaylen is a hard one because without him the celtics season would have been toast (or fighting for the play in at best) so thats a ton of value added but hes also clearly not the best player in the league.