cashburro | Hornets

225 | 16 hours ago

Bro is a big game riser.

Waikuku3

108 | 16 hours ago

He is changing the fate of your franchise with the poise and elite shotmaking. Just wow he has to be the ROTY

Proof-Umpire-7718 | Lakers

62 | 16 hours ago

I thought he would be an underwhelming pick because of his lack of self creation.

Turns out he’s Klay 2.0. I know it’s an oversimplification of his game, but the point is that being such an elite catch and shoot scorer makes you an excellent offensive player, even if your self creation isn’t at the level of a typical star guard.

Portmanteau_that | Hornets

31 | 16 hours ago

I think he turns out to be better than Klay. I know, bold

Waikuku3

53 | 15 hours ago

Thats really bold because Klay is the 2nd best shooter of all time with elite defense…

Portmanteau_that | Hornets

25 | 15 hours ago

I don’t remember Klay flirting with triple doubles his rookie season, js

Matthew2531_46 | Spurs

52 | 15 hours ago

im a big Kon fan but i think its fair to say Kon has a higher floor than Klay theoretically did but Klay is the 2nd best shooter ever with 4 rings. Kon has a lot of catching up to do

Portmanteau_that | Hornets

16 | 15 hours ago

Extremely rational take

Delanorix | Knicks

16 | 14 hours ago

Fuck that, this guy has GOAT level talent. Its time to be irrational as a Charlotte fan.

itgoesdownandup

4 | 13 hours ago

Not irrational enough. He’s already the GOAT.

yoloqueuesf | NYK

3 | 11 hours ago

Dude is fucking elite lmao

Everytime i see him throw up a shot it looks like it’s going to go in

BlindedbytheMute

5 | 9 hours ago

Charlotte fans deserve to rage out. They’re finally on the come up, good to see.

Ok_Angle_5995

1 | 4 hours ago

KON KNUEPPEL HAS SHADES OF LARRY BIRD AND KLAY THOMPSON

/s

geezerhippo

2 | 4 hours ago

it took klay 4 years to averge 19 points.

It took klay 5 years to get to 250 3s (Kon has 10 more games to go)

Kons EFG is 62%. Klays career high is 58.5.

Kon i saveraging 3.5 assists. Klay never averaged more than 3.

Kon is already a better offensive player than peak klay. as a rookie. Much better handle, passer, much better 3 level scorer.

ElegantEpitome | Heat

-2 | 15 hours ago

I don’t remember Knueppel scoring 61 in 29 minutes either

Portmanteau_that | Hornets

15 | 15 hours ago

rookie season

Six2L8

3 | 15 hours ago

Give him time.

manginamonologues

3 | 8 hours ago

He gets 29 minutes.

davis651

2 | 14 hours ago

Klay did in his rookie season?

Dm-me-a-gyro | Spurs

3 | 14 hours ago

I think it’s insanely bold too. But Klay hit more threes only 4 seasons in his career spanning 13 years than Kon has in his rookie season.

And it’s pretty likely that by the end of the season that number will be down to 2 (301, 276) and maybe even just 1.

dwrek24 | Spurs

3 | 15 hours ago

You’re right. He’s never gunna be the defender Klay is.

a_moniker | Hornets

10 | 15 hours ago

But he’s much better inside the paint and off the dribble

dwrek24 | Spurs

6 | 14 hours ago

For his archetype I’d rather have the defense I think. But it’ll all depend on how elite he gets offensively. Im loathe to definitely set his ceiling because I’ve already failed at that once.

I see your point though.

yoloqueuesf | NYK

2 | 11 hours ago

Depends on what the roster around him is and his role right?

Klay has the better defense, Kon looks like he has more on-ball creation.

dwrek24 | Spurs

1 | 20 minutes ago

Yes its all a factor. My natural bias is towards two way play. And Ill admit that. Most times Im gunna pick the elite defense over slightly better offense. But admittedly there’s always ways I can be wrong. Its gunna depend on Kons development and their roster construction.

Also regardless of whether I would take Prime Klay or whatever Prime Kon becomes. Kons gunna be really good and really valuable. Thats clear.

SwampFocs | Hornets

6 | 15 hours ago

Rational take tbh. His offensive creation is better than Klay, more akin to Steph especially if you watch the off-ball movement. Defense may never quite be as good as prime Klay but he’s no slouch on defense.

AurumTP | Magic

2 | 15 hours ago

The Jokic version of Klay

clarkthagod | MIN

-1 | 15 hours ago

No

Portmanteau_that | Hornets

3 | 15 hours ago

RemindMe! 10 years

xbarracuda95

2 | 13 hours ago

In college he already showed the ability to step up as the 1st option when Flagg was injured during the ACC tournament, he had always been a good passer and PnR ball handler.

BlindedbytheMute

1 | 9 hours ago

He’s the perfect balance for Lamelo

Less-Tax5637 | Knicks

4 | 15 hours ago

Big game merchant

therealjayme

6 | 15 hours ago

he also makes my big game rise

WatchTheBoom | Hornets

115 | 16 hours ago

He’s unironically the level-headed mature presence that this team so desperately needed.

ShiftE_80

25 | 14 hours ago

Not sure why you threw “unironically” in there. It is actually ironic.

arsenic8787 | Pacers

26 | 14 hours ago

The meaning of the word “ironic” has devolved. “Unironically” now is akin to the word “genuinely” so they’re saying “Kon is genuinely the mature presence the team needed.” IRONICALLY, the word “genuinely” has devolved to have its own separate meaning now as well.

LordBaneoftheSith

7 | 13 hours ago

The word genuinely devolved so much they had to get Charlie Kirk involved

Ecstatic-Data6699 | Spurs

5 | 8 hours ago

Walk me through this one big dog

nassasan

3 | 6 hours ago

Kirkenuinely

def-not-my-alt

3 | 3 hours ago

He’s lowkirkenuinely right

Free_Low5235

1 | 6 hours ago

yes, because it’s meant to clarify the intention of the speaker given the lack of nonverbal context of internet conversations

def-not-my-alt

1 | 3 hours ago

Like no joke

Puggo2026 | Hawks

74 | 16 hours ago

ROTY locked up

MrFishAndLoaves | Pelicans

-5 | 16 hours ago

Gotta be Cooper Kupps nipple in a tie

throwawaymycareer93 | Warriors

23 | 15 hours ago

I don’t think it will be. Copper had an amazing season for sure, but not as amazing as Knueppel. Especially with beating rookie 3pt record today, I think most of the voters will cast their vote for him and not Flagg.

dannerc | Charlotte Bobcats

9 | 15 hours ago

Kon broke the rookie 3 point record in Feb. He’s been better than you think. He just got the arbitrary “fastest to 250” or whatever number it was tonight

Waikuku3

10 | 15 hours ago

Knueppel is way more consistent than Flagg.

throwawaymycareer93 | Warriors

-2 | 15 hours ago

More consistent and more impactful overall. More efficient too. Flagg also had more weaknesses to his game, most notably 3pt shooting.

Gloomy-Ad-222

10 | 14 hours ago

So if you were a GM you’d draft Kon first over Flagg?

itgoesdownandup

7 | 12 hours ago

I have no horse in this race, but I don’t think that’s ever been what rookie of the year is about. It should be about production and impact in your rookie year.

Brogdon won ROTY are you taking him over the some other players in the 2016 draft?

yoloqueuesf | NYK

1 | 11 hours ago

And i’d say Flagg is the overall primary ball handler you want on your team whereas Kon fits more the off-ball second guy on a team. There’s no right or wrong IMO, it jsut comes down to what you need.

RightCut4940 | Hornets

5 | 11 hours ago

No. Flagg still has much higher potential, and is a year younger.

However, if I were to take 1 rookie and plug him into a contender right now, I think Kon would be the safest choice.

2icecreamsandwiches | Mavericks

-2 | 15 hours ago

How so? You mean shooting percentage?

Ok_Map3549

8 | 15 hours ago

his overall possession per possession impact too

MrFishAndLoaves | Pelicans

5 | 15 hours ago

Kon has vet like composure

lialialia20 | Timberwolves

-7 | 15 hours ago

offensive is way better and defense is about thes same

ZestycloseRound677 | Mavericks

9 | 14 hours ago

Then why does Flagg average more points, rebounds, assists, 1% lower FG%, blocks, and steals on usage that isn’t much higher (25 vs 22). Coop is in the same usage range as Scotty Pippen Jr. and DeAnthony Melton

Prince_of_DeaTh | Lithuania

3 | 10 hours ago

You are right on most things. Flagg is a slightly better rebounder and passer. He’s elite on defense, but Knueppel is not bad on defense either, he’s above average. Knueppel’s TS is significantly higher 65%TS vs Flaggs 55%TS

Own-Necessary7488

5 | 14 hours ago

lmao

ColleaguesKnowMyMain | Mavericks

2 | 14 hours ago

Lol

u2nloth | Hornets

1 | 15 hours ago

He broke the rookie 3pt record WEEKS ago

The one that broke today was fastest to 250 3pm

heat_fan_ | Raptors

47 | 16 hours ago

Kid’s gonna be a stud

ROTY

a_moniker | Hornets

31 | 16 hours ago

Kid is a stud.

OG_Wan_Annunoby | Raptors

14 | 16 hours ago

Everything we wished Gradey Dick was

_Tar_Ar_Ais_

9 | 16 hours ago

Jersey swap between Anthony Black and Kon Knueppel doesn’t have that ring to it, sadly

Waikuku3

2 | 15 hours ago

At least he got you guys some memes

SlickVanExel | Hornets

40 | 16 hours ago

Smiling through it all, can’t believe this is my life

alphadips | Hornets

2 | 6 hours ago

We in the big leagues now

igotitnowokay | Raptors

-2 | 10 hours ago

We will make sure to ruin it soon.

Evening_Lynx_6273 | Hornets

30 | 16 hours ago

ROTY locked.

Unhappy_Jeweler4438

28 | 15 hours ago

I always thought Hornets needed a solid vet presence, didn’t know it would be a 20 year old rookie

Franklinsleftnut | Knicks

24 | 16 hours ago

Joke if he doesn’t win ROTY

gridironk

16 | 16 hours ago

First rookie to hit 250 threes in a season

AdDouble1617 | Hornets

13 | 16 hours ago

Kon is literally only averaging less than coop because we blow out every team and he sits out 4th q but now we had a close game so gg

lialialia20 | Timberwolves

14 | 15 hours ago

who cares about averages lmao

flagg has taken 1006 fga and scored 1243 points

knipple has taken 43 fewer fgs and scored 1378 points

it’s not a fair competition

AdDouble1617 | Hornets

0 | 15 hours ago

Im just saying for the people who screams ppg. Kon is easily roty and its not a debate

Proof-Umpire-7718 | Lakers

12 | 16 hours ago

ROTY

Natedude2002

12 | 16 hours ago

How lucky are we to have the ROTY race we’ve gotten this year? Top 2 are ex teammates and looking incredible already.

FedUpWithThisWurld | Charlotte Bobcats

10 | 16 hours ago

ROOKIE OF THE MF YEAR

Lickmytitsorwe

8 | 16 hours ago

Kon moves me ngl

tarunpopo

9 | 16 hours ago

He’s only 20, came into the league at 19. Happy the hornets are doing well this kid could be the best player rn on that team, insanity.

Swag_Turtle | Hornets

13 | 15 hours ago

He’s shooting 37% from 3 without LaMelo and over 50% with LaMelo on the court. Kon is incredible but LaMelo is the absolutely engine of the team.

tarunpopo

1 | 15 hours ago

Shit my b, but that’s awesome I hated saying Melo was trash. Being a scoring threat with handles that can also playmake will always have a place in this league

fuzzythinker | Nuggets

6 | 15 hours ago

Really loving their starting lineup. A great young team is emerging from the East. Coby adds some fire power as the 6 man too.

SquintsRS | Hornets

6 | 15 hours ago

It’s not just Kon, the whole team knows their roles and everyone is bought in. Kon has been phenomenal though.

rcoffers | Thunder

5 | 14 hours ago

People ignore the fact that Coop put up 32 on 12-19 and 26 on 10-18 the last 2 games because the Mavs are losing.

It’s not Coop’s fault his team literally has to lose because his franchise old GM nuked their future by trading all future assets away after this next lottery pick lol.

_Tar_Ar_Ais_

4 | 16 hours ago

Kon “That’s the secret Cap, I’m always hard” Knueppel

RCA1202 | Thunder

5 | 15 hours ago

I love KK so much

Legit my favorite player not on my own team atm

jamalccc | Magic

-5 | 15 hours ago

I honestly think Jared McCain is close to Kon on offense.

RCA1202 | Thunder

1 | 14 hours ago

Even last year before his injury, not even that close

jamalccc | Magic

1 | 12 hours ago

As a Duke fan, I was every single game of both Kon and McCain, college and pro. It was closer than you think. They are very similar players when it comes to movement shooting. Kon is a better driver because of his strength, but McCain is no joke either. People were talking about McCain looking a little Steph Curryish with the Sixers before his injury.

We might never find out, because McCain on Thunder will never get the featured role Kon is getting. They are just too deep. But McCain on, say Orlando or Portland, would become I great offensive player.

ElGoddamnDorado | Spurs

1 | 10 hours ago

Yall are ridiculous.

Sufficient_Muffin_75

2 | 16 hours ago

But….but….but he’s just a shooter. But….but….but….. he doesn’t have an all around game 😭

Icy_Marsupial7560

5 | 15 hours ago

Bro plays like a vet

GONEBUTNOT4GOTTEN | Lakers

4 | 15 hours ago

I feel like hes the rookie of the year no? gonna make playoffs his first year at this rate.

dwrek24 | Spurs

5 | 15 hours ago

Dont let Kon get hot.

zachthompson02 | Warriors Bandwagon

1 | 16 hours ago

Is it crazy to call him the best rookie shooter of all time? He has the same 3pt percentage as rookie Steph while attempting twice as many threes.

AcanthocephalaSad541 | Heat

1 | 15 hours ago

He’s by far the best rookie shooter of all time lol, that’s like asking if it’s crazy to call LeBrons longevity the best lol

Ok-Tree4365

3 | 15 hours ago

Professional player. Can play as uptempo and chaotic as the rest of the team, but knows when to slow things down and make plays.

devomke | Hornets

4 | 16 hours ago

ROTY and it’s not close(sorry Flagg boys - he’s gonna be great but he’s not better than Kon this year)

homedepotmovingbox

1 | 14 hours ago

He’s legit. Deserves ROTY

FaZe_Chicken_Nugget | Mavericks

2 | 14 hours ago

kon shoots 3s nice and has an actual point guard to help him create shots. coop does everything else better not only because he’s the more impressive player but because he has to do everything anyhow with players that are worse without luka or any pg for that matter

Ok_Map3549

1 | 14 hours ago

hey what are his stats without Lamelo and Miller?

Trueshinalpha

1 | 11 hours ago

He reminds me of Larry Bird.

Prince_of_DeaTh | Lithuania

1 | 10 hours ago

He’s a shorter Peja Stojakovic

slicksonslick

1 | 10 hours ago

This guy no joke has a chance to be SG Steph Curry.

nickgev | Celtics

1 | 6 hours ago

The entire NBA fandom can come together on this one - it’s awesome to have an exciting Hornets team. The visual identity of the Hornets is so cool, they deserve nationally televised games and more exposure.

RudeDay5846

0 | 13 hours ago

I think it’s a tie for ROTY

jz924 | Slovenia

0 | 16 hours ago

So are delusional Mavs fans still gonna argue ROTY for Flagg, or co-ROTY, or the “ROTY doesn’t matter anyway”, which one of these?

VictorAkwaowo1 | Mavericks

16 | 16 hours ago

I promise you it’s not that serious, we just want a top 4 pick

Gloomy-Ad-222

0 | 14 hours ago

As a Wiz fan who got the sixth pick after finishing with the worst record in the league while Dallas traded Doncic and got Flagg: just stop, man. No top four picks for your team.

jz924 | Slovenia

-8 | 15 hours ago

Now he’s out of the race it’s not that serious. Where was this clarity when half the mavs fanbase were acting like Cooper Flagg is for sure gonna be better than Luka Doncic?

VictorAkwaowo1 | Mavericks

7 | 15 hours ago

No fucking sane Mavs fan was saying this shit, they are two completely different players with different archetypes. If Kon wins ROTY then he absolutely deserves it and I’m sure Mavs fans will get over it pretty quickly and focus on the lottery.

jz924 | Slovenia

-8 | 15 hours ago

lol then half the mavs fanbase weren’t sane I guess, which is actually fitting for that trash-ass franchise.

lialialia20 | Timberwolves

-4 | 15 hours ago

let them have their cope

ZealousCatracho | Mavericks

6 | 14 hours ago

Why are you acting like Coop hasn’t had similar games like this?

jz924 | Slovenia

0 | 14 hours ago

Because Cooper Flagg has worse EPM than Naji Marshall. And Cooper Flagg has probably one third of BPM of Luka’s rookie season, Cooper Flagg is also horrible in pretty much every single advanced stat you can find, but Mavericks fans still act like he’s a generational prospect and gonna end up better than Luka. Because Mavericks are a trash-ass franchise and I hope a meteor hit AAC stadium and weep out their entire existence.

But back to ROY race, Knueppel has EPM of +3.1 and Flagg -0.4. Knueppel has BPM of 3.3 and Flagg 1.1. Half the ROYs in history went to a shitty team and only Mavericks fans act like that’s the only reason Flagg has horrible advanced stats.

ZealousCatracho | Mavericks

3 | 13 hours ago

Nevermind im not arguing anymore. It’s pretty funny how Slovenians are that mad tho.

jz924 | Slovenia

3 | 13 hours ago

Almost as funny as Mavericks fans joined in on trashing Luka Doncic before he got traded, directly leading to him getting traded and acted like it was a travesty, and immediately walked back when Mavs got the 1st pick, and were so confident Mavs are gonna contend immediately.

ZealousCatracho | Mavericks

1 | 12 hours ago

It’s crazy to demonize a whole fanbase based on what management did. You really don’t have to hold on to that anger.

jz924 | Slovenia

1 | 8 hours ago

I’ve seen what mavs fanbase said this whole time lol. You guys were all trying to silence Luka topic ever since you got that 1st pick, acting like Luka wasn’t that big of a deal and Cooper gonna be better, Mavs are gonna contend soon. Before Nico Harrison got fired you were all still trying to follow the management and trying to police how fans act! Pathetic fanbase. Luka’s biggest career mistake was being drafted by Mavs.

Opposite-Revenue1068

1 | an hour ago

Bro, Mavs fans didn’t stfu about the Luka trade for at least a year. Many are still grieving.

Yeah, they like Flagg and most are ready to move on. So what?

AdoxDG | Hornets

2 | 16 hours ago

But but but Flagg has a bad team :(

jz924 | Slovenia

-7 | 15 hours ago

Honestly that’s the most hilarious statement I’ve ever heard lol. Half of ROTY played on a shit team, and I clearly remembered how every Mavs fan was claiming Cooper Flagg went to one of the best situations in nba because he get to play with good players like Anthony Davis, seasoned vet like PJ Washington and Naji Marshall, and great mentorship under Kyrie Irving. They were all saying Mavs would have a better record than Lakers or something lol.

No-Clerk7943

-1 | 15 hours ago

He’s the ROTY. People be voting for Cooper Flagg just for his potential.

Kon Knueppel is on fire tonight against the Knicks: 26 PTS, 10 REB, 8 AST, +15 (9⁄14 FG, 6⁄10 3PT)

Kon Knueppel is on fire tonight against the Knicks: 26 PTS, 10 REB, 8 AST, +15 (⁹⁄₁₄ FG, ⁶⁄₁₀ 3PT)