I genuinely can’t tell who’s circlejerking and who isn’t here.

I tell this to other people in the green bay Packers sub. Oh shit guys that’s great! Let’s go ahead and hang the ANY/a * EPA per play banner in the rafters! Like you know what’s even cooler than winning championships? Excelling at stats that correlate with winning championships! 

And fuck off to all the people just talk about ppg or apg or rpg or some shit.

What’s the net rating?!

Jesus, could you imagine a lineup with Shaq at center and Wemby at PF lol

It’s not just rings though. It’s also what he did in the playoffs.

At 22, Kobe was on his second Finals run and was the most dominant player in the league during the Western Conference playoffs; Shaq took over in the Finals, but Kobe was the most impactful player through the Western portion of the playoffs.

Can we please wait until Wemby has played even one playoff series before we act like he’s already recreated the dominance and success of guys who made and/or won the Finals by 22? He just might do it too! But all of this presumptive shit ignores that the games actually have to be played.

At age 22, Kobe averaged 30/7/6 as a second option through the entire playoffs. The same Kobe that destroyed the Spurs in the WCF, averaging 33/7/7 as the first option. Wemby can’t even average that as a first option.

Wemby in 2007 east, and cavs not only make the finals, they take a game or two off the spurs

People who act like young Kobe was as good as MJ or Lebron are delusional. He became that but he started out as a bench player and worked his way to that level.

Who’d the be the guard equivalent of Lakers’ Shaq? Luka or SGA?

It is with the roster he had. Just like how Wemby has a much better roster. It balances out

The end of this comment feels like the writers barely disguised fetish

Becayse you bring up on/off, wonder how ud compare wemby and gobert?

2026 Wemby: +16.3 on, -0.8 off [+17.1 on/off]

2021 Gobert: +16.6 on, -2.5 off [+19.1 on/off]

Gobert did it in 2188 minutes compared to 1695 for Wemby

No, they’re not. They’re making a separate point that context matters a lot for all these advanced stats, especially those that are team based. Yes we know Wemby is an all time talent already. No he is not better than peak Lebron, Shaq, or Kobe.

We can debate how meaningful it is on a case y case basis, but it’s definitely more than just interesting.

It’s also not very useful to compare gross net rating across eras. As scoring increases, it becomes much easier to get larger net ratings.

didn’t even need him to win a playoff series lol

Based take right here

But the greatest players elevate their team to the highest level.

You cannot argue that the greatest in any sport doesn’t have a championship of that sport.

Some of the stuff he’s doing this early in his career is just absurd. The passes he’s been throwing recently come to mind. It’s almost like he decides he wants to add something to his game, and within 2 weeks he’s able to do it at a pro level with impressive consistency.

I have never seen anyone be such a permeable membrane. I think it has to do with his frame, he just doesn’t have to worry about the same type of defensive obstacles that other players do. It seems like every other week he is trotting some new move out on to the court.

At a certain point he’s just going to start inventing stuff

Glazing started being used to replace dick sucking/dick riding. People overuse it definitely

Sometimes a word or phrase becomes popular and people overuse it.

Some valid concerns, but 27 points (highest in that game for either teams) at 20 y.o in a 40 minute game (not a BO7, all the stakes in 40 minutes) against the Avengers in an Olympic Final with his entire country counting on him says he’s probably more than fine with pressure.

Come back in a few years to this comment if you want to acknowledge that you’re wrong.

his offense is also incredibly medicore compared to the other top players around him

i’m not convinced you fuckers even watch the guy play LMAO, keep looking at stats though!

Fair. I think Wemby is one of the most exciting players we have right now so that’s part of it. Plus historically big guys have always had huge hype

So Wembys offense is mediocre compared to Jokic, for example. In contrast Jokics defense isn’t even mediocre compared to Wemby. So why is it slurping to say Wemby is the best player in the league?

Incredibly mediocre offense hahaha no, his offense is very good it’s just his defense is far ahead and he absolutely has an argument for best player in the league

He is the best player in the league

his offense is also incredibly mediocre

It’s okay that you don’t watch him play, but then don’t have strong opinions on his game lol

I think the frustration is that we’ve never declared Greatness for a player until it’s done in the playoffs, and it seems like the NBA media machine is trying to skip that step for Wemby

You can celebrate without trying to paint it as if he’s having a better season than legends who either won a chip or made a deep playoff run at Wemby’s age; especially when Wemby has a way better roster than most players his age.

Idk I think ant and randle existing means they have to play a big to contest them, but perhaps the lakers can go small with lebron or hachimura at the 5 and win that way. Maybe the clippers can run kawhi at the 5 or something.

Honestly man, I know my post came off anti lebron but he is absolute worst case #2 all time and I don’t question that the roster around lebron in that first Cleveland stint was not good. I’m just saying we have seen better versions of LeBron during that first stint with better cavs teams not make the finals, so the competition was a perfect storm in 2007. Still, it was a welcome shot that lebron was going to be wrecking the league in no time. My issue isn’t even lebron not winning the finals in 2007 (he was just 22, spurs way more experienced) just that out west they don’t get past round 1, but of course it was amazing what LeBron did but when you factor in some context he’s had 5 other playoff years much more impressive but he’s had a crazy career for so long to his credit

Pumped for wemby playoffs, but I think OKC wins the WCF

Do YOU think the spurs will be a first round exit?

Nah, that is a revisionist theory bullshit. And playoffs are harder to make now nice the competition is light years ahead of 2007. I mean boobie Gibson dropping 28 points in a crucial game 6 to send Cleveland to the finals while lebron shot horrifically says it all for a “one man team” and LeBron was hot garbage in the finals since he had no jump shot while the rest of the team did their work limiting TD.

It was a garbage east back then and put that team in the west in 2007 and they either don’t make the playoffs or go out in round 1. LeBron’s gets enough glazing, but a dog shit east ain’t it and then he had to collude in Miami to lose at a historical level.