Thank you, could not agree more.

they discounted the Hawks 11 game win streak the same way.

Being able to consistently beat bad teams without your best player is not something every team have.

nha duren’s actually a superstar being held back by cade’s greedy ass, get him outta there

This needs to be higher. Pistons won so may close games with Cade taking over in the fourth

i mean i think its still significant because you constantly hear pistons fans say how trash their offense is without cade and how they have zero shot creating and playmaking besides him

ya it’s sad when a team goes hit the luxury tax young like that

i mean, what stops the pistons from just not giving him a supermax? who is genuinely opening up a max slot for a player like duren who isnt a bad defender but by all means has not been at the level you would hope for as your defensive anchor

Duren said supermax, I said super hell no 

I don’t think he really does, unless a LOT of guys become ineligible.

SGA, Luka, Jokic, Wemby, Kawhi, Cade, Ant, Maxey, Jalen Johnson, Brown, Mitchell, Durant, Deni, Barnes, Brunson, Murray, LaMelo, Towns? Sengun? Harden? Bam?

I’m probably the biggest Duren stan you’ll find and I can’t see a path for him to get all nba. If it was the traditional position requirements, then maybe.

You are right. There is a narrative for some reason that Cade single handedly pulled the Pistons out of the depths of hell when in reality the Pistons are an extremely well built team that Cade thrives in.

Nah I agree completely, I bet the Pistons do similarly in the playoffs as well.

I’m getting an impression of 2024 Okc. Good team but no one really considered them the one seed.

I really hate when people talk about a subject they know nothing about. Wanna talk about the teams we beat without him?

the Pistons are obviously better with Cade on the floor.

Obviously

Wait ur telling me a team is obviously better with their star player ? No way bro

To me it’s a copium injection.

We haven’t played the best teams when we haven’t had Cade.

Yeah I’m hoping there is a lot more to come too. I love the improved confidence to handle the ball some and look for his own shot, but hopefully he can follow Bam’s development path a bit and truly tighten up his handle and mid range to the point he can be a bigger threat. Bam looks like a wing out there with the ball, I’d love if Duren could be 80% of that.

And in defense, he needs more experience and awareness, but honestly I feel like it’s a motor thing where with the increased offensive involvement, he kind of saves energy on defense. And with his build, endurance is always going to be a challenge.

He’s everything we wished Drummond would be years ago.

NAW has been doing crazy things too he should absolutely be in the convo

Duren should definitely be the favorite, although Rollins and a few others have had amazing development too.

lmao

10-6 for Jokic

the so called “mvp” who is tied for the 5/6th seed while all his teammates have played up to or past expectations and was projected to be the 2 seed in the west

Wemby exists in this conversation. Spurs might be a 60 win team and he carries on both sides of the ball